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Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, Jun 19, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Actuant Corporation's Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we’ll conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, today Wednesday, June 17, 2015. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Karen Bauer, Communications and Investor Relations leader. Please go ahead, Ms. Bauer.

Karen Bauer

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning and welcome to Actuant's third quarter fiscal 2015 earnings conference call. On the call with me today are Mark Goldstein, Actuant's CEO; and Andy Lampereur, CFO. Our earnings release and the slide presentation for today's call are available in the Investors section of our Web site. Before we start a word of caution. During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Investors are cautioned that forward-looking statements are inherently uncertain and that there are a number of factors that could cause the actual results to differ materially from these statements. These factors are outlined in our SEC filings. Consistent with prior quarters, we'll utilize the one question one follow-up rule in order to keep today’s call to an hour. Thank you in advance for following this practice. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Mark.

Mark Goldstein

Analyst

Thanks, Karen and thank you for joining us on our fiscal 2015 third quarter earnings call. As you read in this morning earnings announcement we reported third quarter sales of 320 million and earnings of $0.63 per share. We are very pleased with the sequential improvement and profit margins from the second quarter’s season lows as well as the benefits of current year cost reduction actions despite the sequential oil and gas market slowdown that we had previously forecasted. Soft demand in several of our key end-markets continues to present challenges and we have now begun to feel incremental weakening over the past 45 to 60 days in general industrial activity and spending, as well as distributor and end-user de-stocking. We are taking additional cost reduction actions to counter this, but unfortunately are now expecting a weaker earnings finish to the year than previously forecasted. Despite this we continue to focus on cash flow, growth and capital deployment. Andy will go through what we saw in our segments during the quarter and I will come back to discuss the outlook and our action plans. Andy?

Andy Lampereur

Analyst

Good morning everyone. I'm going to start today's financial review on Page 4 with the summary income statement. Third quarter sales were $320 million and EPS was $0.63 a share. Compared to last year both sales and earnings were hurt by currency and weaker end-market demand. Third quarter sales declined 15% year-over-year and SAE costs were down 17%. But lower gross profit margins resulted in decline in operating profit margins. Lower income tax expense also came into play for both years as did fewer shares outstanding in fiscal '15. With respect to income tax expense our third quarter effective tax rates have historically been uneven as it is the quarter when we plan out most of our tax returns and therefore includes annual adjustments. Last year's third quarter effective tax rate was 3% and this year’s was negative due to an approximate $5 million net tax credit. Excluding this credit our current year third quarter rate would have been in the high single-digit range modestly better than the 12% to 13% rate that we had included in our guidance due to incremental tax planning. This tax pick up will result in cash tax savings which is also good news. With or without the tax benefits this quarter sales and margins were slightly below our internal forecast and I'll be reviewing some of the causes in my prepared remarks this morning. Turning now to Slide 5, I'll provide a few comments on consolidated sales. Third quarter sales were down 15% year-over-year with core sales down 8% and foreign currency being a 7% headwind. The impact of last May's Precision-Hayes acquisition and last June's RV divesture were a net wash. Each of our three segments reported core sales declined with the oil and gas headwinds becoming more pronounced in our energy and…

Mark Goldstein

Analyst

Thanks Andy. I’d like to review how we are attacking cost reductions which have been necessary to maintain our competiveness during the down cycle. Some of these actions have been fairly straight forward for example cutting discretionary expenses including travel and entertainment and consulting, others have been much more difficult such as employment reductions, line moves and facilities, consolidations and closures. The benefits were clear in this quarter’s results as we achieved a 17% reduction in SA&E and a 15% decline in revenues. We are substantially through these previously announced projects and are now reviewing incremental cost reduction opportunities which include additional staffing reductions, management structural changes and further facility closures and consolidations. We are protecting certain areas in investments such as growth in innovation projects and our energy rental fleet and technicians in order to drive sales growth and protect market-share. We know that oil and gas prices and industry demand will eventually rebound, and we need to ensure that we can support key customers when they need us. Our revised fourth quarter guidance includes $2 million to $3 million of incremental restructuring expense for new approved projects. We will be spending time finalizing other cost reduction opportunities which will lead to additional cost reductions in fiscal ’16. It has been a challenging year but there are a lot of good things going on in the business and I wanted to spend a little time highlighting a few of these. We see sustained albeit modest growth in Europe truck for the foreseeable future. We enjoy a high market-share in the global cab-tilt business and are leveraging Power-Packer’s reputation, relationships and technology to expand. We have landed a number of new multi-million dollar annual contracts in truck this year that start in late 2016. Second, we are having success building…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

James Picariello

Analyst

This is James Picariello filling in for Jeff. So just to the guidance, can you talk about on a segment basis how you are thinking about the fourth quarter? And I'll follow up with my other question.

Mark Goldstein

Analyst

Yes, so if we look at the fourth quarter, we will be starting with the industrial piece of it, from a revenue standpoint. Industrial we’re seeing a little bit sequential improvement in core sales, so that will be improved from our negative 6% that we saw this last quarter. It will be I guess still down at least. It's still down by 5%. Energy is going to be down at similar level what we saw last quarter of 11% to 12% year-over-year. And then engineered solutions will be down a little bit more than we saw last quarter. It will be down about 8% from the current 4%. So, the energy is pretty much similar to what we saw this last quarter and a little improvement but still declining year-over-year, quarter-over-quarter in engineered solutions and a little improvement on the industrial side.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst

Just a little color on some of those because it is impacting our mix as we move forward and when we look within energy, we are expecting a noticeable downward shift in the fourth quarter with the Viking business. Sequentially, when you move to Q3 and Q4; the year-over-year core will decline. That will hurt margins because of the high decrementals on the rental fleet. Shifting to engineered solutions Mark talked about it going down from roughly 4% to let’s say 7% or 8%. The biggest shift there is in the ag business that's going from roughly flat to down roughly 10% on the OEM basis. And industrial, we expect IT to do a little bit better than it did this past quarter but are still pretty week.

James Picariello

Analyst

And just following up there, for the IT business what gives you the confidence or comfort, at least that things are going to stabilize and possibly even get better? And then also, on top of that, just integrated solutions -- what's that large project that helped in the quarter? I assume that's also going to benefit next quarter?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst

Yes the IS volume will still be pretty strong. In the fourth quarter, we have got a couple of big projects in place there. So, they will be going on and we are on percentage completion with those, so still would be strong. When you look sequentially, why do you think IT will be a little bit better? We were up against a pretty difficult May of last year. We had put in a price increase on June 1 of the prior year. We did a price increase June 1 of this year as well. There was much less, I would call pre-buyer or buying ahead of the price increase this year than last year. The price increase was a little bit bigger last year than this year and given distributors’ interest in reducing inventory. We just did not see the pop. So, I think we will not have that impact not only the benefit in the third quarter but that hole that we saw in the fourth quarter of last year in the first month, or so after people pre-bought isn't going to be there this year.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst

Yes I think the other trend that we saw is the first couple of months in the third quarter in industrial tool. We are pretty much in the circle of where our expectations where if things fell off and in the May time period lot of discussion around de-stocking with some of our larger national accounts and we feel that they will begin to move through that position as the fourth quarter progresses. Then on -- the other question you had was around IS with the wheel.

Karen Bauer

Analyst

It was Reunion Island the suspended roadway is along that revenued in this quarter.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst

Right, and as the third quarter was Reunion…

Karen Bauer

Analyst

We thought that happened in Q1.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst

And that will continue in fourth quarter moving forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ann Duignan with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Ann Duignan

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Can we talk a little bit about a bit more color on your commentary on the industrial weakening, distributor weakening as you went through the quarter both geographically -- is that pretty consistent around the world? And then how has it been in June? I know you talked a little bit in the last answer about national destocking. But a bit more color globally, please?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Sure. So if you look at industrial for the quarter. The areas where we saw headwinds were in China as well as North America. Europe from an industrial tool standpoint pretty much came in the way we had expected but a fair amount of headwinds in the North American market as the quarter progressed and we are in a circle the first couple of months the third month things fell off rather dramatically. And in investigating it, it's mainly due to a couple of things, one is end-user. I think, into the energy market the tentacles of energy are little broader than just the oil and gas market and from a maintenance standpoint, there was an impact and the second was destocking from some of the major national accounts in North America. Our secondary distributors, the mid-sized distributors continue perform as expected. China, we've seen a falloff from an industrial standpoint over the past several months, we've talked about the industrial slowdown there and that was just mirrored in our industrial tool take-up in the quarter. So, that's the geographical piece of it and June is coming in similar to what we are looking at in our forecast for the fourth quarter. So, that's what we anticipate.

Ann Duignan

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

And just a quick clarification, why do you think the large national guys are destocking right now? Is it oil and gas related to just indirect, or is it general industrial production weakness?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

I think it's mainly because of oil and gas also they built their stock levels in the first half of the year, anticipating that there would be a better flow through to the end-markets and they haven't seen it.

Ann Duignan

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

And then just one clarification on the energy side -- on the pricing pressure, can you just, again, give us a little bit more color on what's going on in pricing? Where are you seeing the most pricing pressure? Just more color so we can draw some other conclusions from that, please? Thank you.

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

There was a little bit of pricing and certainly year-over-year in our third quarter numbers and in energy, I would say, it's not any different than what we had anticipated as we talked last quarter, there was a fair amount of concern about these letters floating around about 20% to 30% reductions and we said we've seen these in the past. We're negotiating our way through those with customers some cases accepting some modest reductions, other cases, taken reductions but giving additional volume. So, it washes through but I don't think it was a significant factor in what the energy numbers were this past quarter versus expectations. That part of it, I think, was pretty good.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matt McConnell with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Matt McConnell

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

So you talked a little bit more about deals this call, and it seems like you have a decent pipeline. Could you give us a sense of the types of deals, primarily size or maybe by segment? And then you also mentioned valuation is quite high. So how do you balance or prioritize M&A versus share buybacks, which have been the primary use of capital recently?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

So on the deal front Matt we continue to focus most of our attention on tuck-ins into our core segments. And that continues to be the focus many of them are private negotiations these are smaller companies and we've categorized these in a $50 million to $100 million deal size. And so that continue -- or less to tuck into our core technologies in each of the businesses, obviously, energy and industrial are primary targets but we're looking at tuck-ins in all three segments in order to improve our technology and service to our customer base.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

In terms of prioritization between buybacks and acquisition, our capital deployment priority is definitely number one is acquisitions and two would be returning capital to shareholders through buybacks after that. So that really has not changed.

Matt McConnell

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

And maybe touching on Viking, those projects are rolling off as anticipated. But do you have a pipeline of projects you are looking at that can replace this stuff that's rolling off? And maybe give us a sense of how steep the falloff could the in the fourth quarter. And you mentioned that you are holding onto assets there, I think, to make sure that you are able to serve your customers. Does that imply that either this downturn is maybe shallower than we might have been anticipating, or you can sell these assets later as things get worse? Or how do I combine those two comments on the slowing demand but holding onto the assets?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

I think the comments about assets in utilization there equally applies to in the service technicians as well relates equally to Hydratight as well as Viking it is not just Viking and especially on the service side there is so much value so much knowhow in these service technicians to let him go and to have someone else come along and pick them up is something we do not want to happen from that standpoint. With regard to your first question with Viking we had expected them to be flat to down a couple of percent on a year-over-year basis this quarter and we ended up by I think squeaking out 3% growth we did pick up some small incremental blocks of business in the quarter, some call out type stuff that comes along where you might have a rental out there for a month or two on it. So there is still some of that volume going on there is additions on to some of the projects that we got down in Asia Pac where they have x number of lines out there and they want some more and they want them out there are a little bit longer. So there is still some of that going on. That being said we definitely are bracing for a significant decline sequentially on a year-over-year basis sequentially in sales where we were up 3% with Viking this past quarter a combination of currency and actual core decline is going to take revenues down probably 40%-50% from a year ago with core being half of that. So there will be a noticeable decline from low single-digits down to probably mid 20s down on a year-over-year basis and again with the high decrementals that are associated with these big rental assets is going to have quite an impact on segment margins and overall margins for all of Actuant. So that certainly is one of the drivers for the steep reduction from Q3 to Q4.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Rob Wertheimer with Vertical Research Partners. Please go ahead.

Rob Wertheimer

Analyst

Trying to ask two questions, circling around within some markets that are soft, how much is abnormal softness so let me just as them both at once? Deferrals of maintenance, where in the oil patch was that, is it broad spread? Is it just offshore? I wonder if you can give any color there. And you mentioned a few times the channel destocks that had started. Do you feel like you undersold the channel? I guess, obviously and so it's over? Or is that ongoing into next quarter and thereafter? So I'm just wondering if that maintenance deferral was material, if it's all widespread or not, and then how much channel destock is depressing things this quarter or next. Thanks.

Mark Goldstein

Analyst

So, on the deferrals that was really focused on the energy side of the business and predominantly Hydratight. And it was occurring in this current dynamic market and it's mainly in North America that we’re seeing this and in the North Sea. It's mainly North America as well as the North Sea. The scope and size of the jobs continue to move very dramatically as we go through this. So where normally they may use 30 technicians on a job for 30 days they are at the last minute scoping it down to 20 technicians for 20 days. And so you need to have to material, the technicians and the kit ready to be mobilized and that gets changed at the last minute and you are typically getting reduced in scope versus expended in scope. And in the normal market period they tend to get expended in scope over a longer period of time. So we see that going on it's something that began last quarter in those two markets and that will continue in this type of market as we move forward.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst

One comment I just want to add on this before Mark picks up the other one. What we have heard a lot of is we're going to defer a project from April and May to September 1st. okay so it doesn’t make sense to take the technicians out and essentially lay them off and hope that they're three months from now and bring them on. It would be different if to say we are deferring this thing indefinitely but you're almost forced to hold on to what you got knowing that you're going to have weak absorption weak utilization in the fourth quarter and that’s really what we're up against. Go ahead Rob. [Multiple Speakers]

Rob Wertheimer

Analyst

I am so sorry that's midstream or upstream only?

Andy Lampereur

Analyst

That’s maintenance in general.

Mark Goldstein

Analyst

That’s downstream. Yes it's really across the board whether it's refineries, whether it's on rigs what not it is it is just maintenance in general in Hydratight.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst

So that’s it on the deferral piece of it. On the destocking we began to see that last quarter. It's been with our larger industrial accounts it's mainly due to the fact that I think a lot of these larger accounts and Grainger just released last week and you could see a little softening on their industrial side as well. I think they anticipated a much larger take through and flow through to the end-user and I think the oil and gas and energy market slowdown is impacting them as well. So we’re seeing it mainly in the larger customer base that we have.

Operator

Operator

Our next question from the line of Charley Brady with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Charley Brady

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Just quickly, on the $2 million or $3 million incremental expense, where is that going to appear? Is it under corporate or is it falling into segments?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

It’d be spread across the three segments and corporate so the cost will be coming out of everywhere.

Charley Brady

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay. And did you guys tell us what the -- on ES, how much the truck was up and ag was down? I don't know if I missed that.

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

For Q3?

Charley Brady

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Yes.

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Q3 was just the Weasler portion of ag was flat the big ag related to I’ll say the cedars and [Multiple Speakers] the OEM part of that I really should say big ag but the OEM part was probably down 15% and the aftermarket we had a good aftermarket quarter and so we were down low single-digits overall for ag. Truck was strong in the quarter and we were up by close to 10% within truck a lot of benefit coming out of China’s start up ramping up some high volume on one particular platform as well as Europe coming out of the pre buy from a year ago.

Charley Brady

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

So do you expect trucks, then, as we go through the next few quarters to remain pretty healthy? Or are we seeing a one- or two-quarter pop and then it ought to slow a bit?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Europe we talked a little earlier about being up low single-digits moving forward but China is where we’re going to see it falloff the overall market is relatively slow we had some gains recently due to market share gains that will move off. And so China will be slower as we move forward.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Mig Dobre with Robert Baird. Please go ahead.

Mig Dobre

Analyst · Robert Baird. Please go ahead.

Andy, maybe a clarification on Viking it is my understanding that revenue at Viking for fiscal 2016 is running somewhere around $80 million. Maybe you can clarify that a little bit? And then I also heard you talk about 40% to 50% decline there. So are we basically talking about a $30 million-plus headwind as we are looking into fiscal 2016 in energy from Viking alone?

Andy Lampereur

Analyst · Robert Baird. Please go ahead.

No, my comment related to the fourth quarter that in the fourth quarter we will see a sizeable downward shifts in growth I am not saying that will be there for all of next year at all that’s not what I am saying. But this will be the first quarter this year within Viking that we are down year-over-year in revenue. And it has to do with some of these big projects coming down and the softness up in the North Sea.

Mig Dobre

Analyst · Robert Baird. Please go ahead.

Sure, I understand that. But I'm trying to clarify the 40%-plus comment. And if you are saying that there is going to be some sort of rebound in fiscal 2016, I guess I'm wondering what gives you the confidence or visibility in that regard.

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · Robert Baird. Please go ahead.

I guess just to clarify here again 40 I should have mentioned that because that is a -- that includes a 40-50 that includes currency we’re going to be down 20%-25% core this quarter. Do I expect that to continue on into ’16? Of course it will continue on into the first couple of months first quarter of ’16 beyond that we’re really -- we're not going to talk about what our expectations are for the full year.

Mig Dobre

Analyst · Robert Baird. Please go ahead.

Okay, I understand. And then my follow-up is on industrial. If I look at the margin in the first half of ’15, there were a number of one-time items there, like you had, for instance, the ports. There were some shipping disruptions and so on that compressed margin. If, into fiscal 2016, taking into account your cost savings and taking into account your mix, even if we're talking about something like call it low single-digit or mid-single-digit decline on a core basis in industrial revenue, is it fair to say that you will be able to, on easy comps, at least stabilize margins in industrial? Or is that too optimistic if we’re talking about a volume decline potentially stretching into ’16?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · Robert Baird. Please go ahead.

I guess I am just a little bit surprised by the comment stabilized I think the margins here have been pretty stable I mean they’ve been in the neighborhood of 30% from an EBITDA level other than the second quarter which always is the weakest quarter of the year. We are getting clipped year-over-year on margins in this segment by about 125 basis points because of the acquisition that mix that came in. And there are variability throughout the year like we talked about parts last quarter probably costing us $1 million in freight and whatnot, but the margins here in our view have been remarkably consistent and certainly there is mix that impacts these things when you go from IS being down double-digits to being down double-digits first-half, up double-digits second half and the differential between IS margins and IT margins that’s going to wiggle margins around. But from our standpoint when we look at what is the base profitability of IS, what is the base profitability of the IT businesses, we’re very happy where there’s at and we think there was nothing wrong with those margins.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst · Robert Baird. Please go ahead.

They are going to be in that circle authority and we’re going to have puts and takes on a regular basis, whether it's mix, absorption et cetera. So we feel very good about the sustainability of those margins.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Justin Bergner with Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

Justin Bergner

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

My first question is on the subject of acquisitions. The language you are using suggests that you have a tuck-in focus. What would cause you to go beyond doing a tuck-in acquisition, sort of looking out over the next six to 12 months?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

I think probably a couple of things, one is we’ve got a pretty broad funnel of opportunities that we’re looking at on a regular basis. So right now we’ve got a focus that’s mainly in tuck-ins, but certainly we’d define those as under 100 million. If something very strategic should come up that makes a lot of sense for one of our core businesses or core technologies especially in the industrial area we would be very open to take a look at that. But certainly we’re scanning the marketplace right now Justin it is just that we’ve got in the funnel is predominantly those tuck-in smaller acquisitions.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

The only color I would add to that Justin is, when we look at our funnels across our businesses, each of our businesses that have -- it was a rule breaker acquisition where as if this company would ever come up, we would absolutely lust for this business because it would be such a rule changer such a game changer and it's a big business that’s what we’re talking about outside of these tuck-ins and there is probably a couple in each of our segments that we would stretch for but that is not really what we’re looking for now, 90% of our activity is on tuck-in. So real cautious here on the message that people misinterpret what we’re saying, we are not looking for bigger deals a vast majority of our activity is on tuck-ins, but if one of these suddenly popped open we would be crazy not to look at it. That’s something that pops up once every 10 years along those lines.

Justin Bergner

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

And then a follow-on question on acquisitions, if I may the last 12 months have proved challenging for both Actuant and other industry participants in terms of forecasting end markets, so as you move forward with acquisitions or considering acquisitions, whether bolt-on deals or larger, how do you as an organization deal with the uncertainty of your end markets in evaluating both whether or not you do acquisitions and the price that you consider?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

It's a very good question Justin, I talked a little bit in my prepared remarks about some of the reasons why we have decided to walk away from specific acquisitions and one of them was not believing the forecast, when the forecast were driving some multiples that we thought were didn’t make sense in this environment. And so we’ve been spending a lot of time with our team within due diligence to take a look at those forecasts and really did a very granular relative to each of the forecast, we’re also utilizing third-parties to help on markets, technologies and some of the other areas to assist us and in making sure that we make the right decisions and vet the forecast effectively. So we have put some measures into our aim process, which is our integration due diligence process that we use for acquisitions to help us better focus on that.

Andy Lampereur

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

The other comment I would add here is given what’s happening in some of our base businesses, things are really rough there, it was going through a restructuring, we’re not even going to think about tackling an acquisition even if it's a tuck-in in some of those end-markets. Now that would impact a small number of our businesses out there, but some are just not going to be looking at deals because they have to get to base in order to…

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

Get the foundation in place.

Justin Bergner

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

Okay, that's good clarity. One more quick one, if I may you mentioned emerging market sales were tracking, I think, 10% or 10%-plus, core, fiscal year-to-date. How has that progressed over the course of the fiscal year, to average to 10% plus?

Mark Goldstein

Analyst · Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead.

Justin it is actually been pretty -- if you look at the three quarters it has been up and down in some of the markets like India, but in China and Brazil as well. So we’re seeing fits and starts in the markets. I would tell you that, that Brazil is mainly driven by energy right now and we’re seeing some strong revenue there and then from a China standpoint truck was driving a lot of that. And so the truck has really been driving the upside of that. So it all averages out to 10%, but we’re very pleased with the progress that we’re making in all three of these markets.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Please continue with your presentation or closing remarks.

Karen Bauer

Analyst

Great. Well, thanks to everyone for joining the call today, Happy Father’s Day this weekend for those of you who are celebrating that. We’ll be around all day to answer any follow-up questions for your planning purposes. Our year-end call will take place on September 30th and as Mark noted we’re going to be hosting our Investor Day a little different as a tight visit to Columbus. So look for e-mail information invite from me kind of later in July. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.