Tony Guzzi
Analyst · Thompson, Davis.
Yes. I think there's – it's hard to tell. I mean the short duration projects have something that's been driving them for a while. And so there's this counterbalancing view out there, right, in my mind because of energy pricing. And people who drive for more sustainable facilities. So on one hand, you sit there and say, I just won't do the project. On the other hand, you say, every day, I don't do that project, my cost structure becomes worse because energy prices continue to become uncertain and escalate. And most of our major customers have committed to sustainability goals. And you can't get there unless you do equipment replacement and modernization and all -- something as simple as fixing the compressor lines in a manufacturing facility. That requires a lot of work. It requires new equipment. If you take out something that used to be 0.68 kw per tonne, and now you're putting in something with 0.32kw per tonne on a chiller, and it has variable speed -- that's a market change in your operating cost profile. And then you're going to start thinking about, okay, I have to do that. If I don't do that in these triple net leases, which has always been the vein to the existence of energy efficiency, my building may no longer be competitive, right? So I have all these forces going on around me. And so I think that if you're heavily exposed to new build commercial, you probably have a different outlook than we have on that. I also think, if you think of some of these major projects that are going on, on those big things I talked about from reshoring, EV, value chain, semiconductors, data centers. And remember, there's a whole ecosystem around each of those. I guess most of this was happening without government support. That can only help it now, and it can only elongate it in my mind. And most of these customers are not worried about a 500 basis point expansion in interest rate costs. One, they're self-funded for the most part and the kind of value they're going to create over what they're doing. And then you layer on top of that for some of these industries, the demand with respect to national security and the onshoring of some critical industries, I think that mix drives long-term demand in a favorable way. And look, for us, we have great RPOs. We expect to continue to have great RPOs. From this high level, that could plus or minus a little bit quarter-to-quarter, but we expect our overall trends over the next couple of years to be pretty good as -- in these major sectors, but we'll see.