Jake Elguicze
Analyst · BTIG.
Yes. So Marie, I would tell you that the fourth quarter of 2022 margin profile was certainly the most representative to date for Embecta as a public entity. And we generated -- while it was better than what we had previously communicated, we generated adjusted gross margin of about 64.4% and adjusted EBITDA margin of around 31.8%. And obviously, that included more of the standup costs, separation costs as well as impacts from increased raw material and supply chain and inflationary impacts, including the cost of -- the increased cost of the cannula that we purchase from BD. So certainly, Q4 was most representative to date of what Embecta's margin profile could look like. As we thought about fiscal 2023 and sort of that jump off from the fourth quarter margin profile to full year 2023, we're now calling for adjusted gross margins to be approximately 62% and adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 30% which is still very, very healthy adjusted EBITDA margins. And our assumptions include additional standup costs impacting gross margin. That includes a variety of things. Costs related to regulatory, quality, supply chain, manufacturing as we continue to invest in these capabilities in advance of us exiting the TSA, so there's going to be a period of time where we're incurring actually some TSA expense and incurring our own standup costs related to those items. So our assumptions assume that. Additionally, in the gross margin line, we're continuing to call for or expect increases in raw material costs, including the costs associated with the cannulas that we're going to purchase from BD. So that is part of our assumptions for 2023 as well. And then we're also continuing to actually see some lingering headwinds from inflation, whether that's on the labor side or whatnot. So we tried to take that into consideration. And that's really what's going to drive, I would say, the gross margin decline. Now if you think about then what is going to occur at the EBITDA margin line, we're anticipating that drop-through in the gross margins to impact adjusted EBITDA margin. We're also anticipating incurring additional investments behind our R&D, again, most notably the insulin patch pump. And we're doing that because we certainly think that by doing so, we have the ability to create a faster-growing top line company in the future. And then somewhat offsetting that is going to be some offsets in the SG&A line. So all totaled, the initial guide for 2023 calls for those adjusted gross margins in the 62% area. Adjusted EBITDA margin, still very, very strong at the approximately 30%. And again, despite incurring, I would say, significantly more headwinds as compared to what we originally knew about in March of 2022 when we provided some longer-term goals, we continue to remain very, very committed to the achievement of those 2024 financial objectives which include adjusted EBITDA margin maintaining at approximately 30%.