Katherine Holt Antonello
Chief Executive Officer
Yes. Let me talk, if you do not mind, about pricing in general and then we can get into California. When I think about pricing across workers’ compensation, especially in guaranteed cost, I would say I used to characterize the pricing environment as competitive. I would now say it is closer to getting somewhat irrational in some jurisdictions and premium bands. Specifically, I would call out guaranteed cost middle market. We are seeing that there are some diligent carriers—and I think we are included in that group—exiting certain states and classes. Some of the states that I would mention, not specific to us but just across the market that we have seen exits, are New York, California, and Massachusetts. We are also seeing tightening risk selection in states like Florida, where there is not a lot of pricing flexibility to begin with. For us, we pulled back significantly in Massachusetts, and we have also pulled back in certain class codes. We have also cut ties with a few MGAs that we feel were underperforming. I do not believe that all companies are being as forward-looking as we are in terms of rate adequacy. In certain jurisdictions, including California, it is possible that the market in certain jurisdictions has really crossed over into what I would call cash flow underwriting. You asked about the rate that we are achieving. When we look at our book of business and when we adjust for changes in the mix of business, meaning class code mix, and we compare 2026 to 2025, payrolls were up about 0.5%, and our average rate on renewals countrywide increased about 6%. So that is quarter over quarter, 2026 to 2025. I would say a significant portion of that is coming from California, where we are getting double-digit rate increases on our renewals. When we look at where our opportunities for growth are, I would include segments where we have a differentiated distribution strategy. I am speaking to payroll partners and digital agents/marketplaces; we are still seeing a lot of growth opportunity there. We have also identified some jurisdictions where we have opportunities to increase our market share and where the pricing margins remain very attractive. So we are focusing heavily on those areas, and I would include what I said in the prepared remarks: we are appointing more agents in the areas where we feel like there is better pricing margin, and perhaps in certain states where we entered that state maybe four or five years ago pre-COVID, but we feel like it is now a good time to increase our market share there. I would like to add that at the top of our funnel, when we look at submissions coming in, California does appear to be a hardening market to some extent because submissions were the highest that we have seen across the company—and specifically in California—in 2026 that we have ever seen. So submissions at the top of the funnel, including both count and premium, are very high at this time. We are just being very specific about where we are willing to quote, and where we feel like the pricing is unreasonable, we are just not playing there. In terms of growth, I would also say our appetite expansion effort has been huge. It has been an area of growth for us over the last four years since we started doing that, and we are going to continue to do that going forward and enter into new products like excess and others that we have on the horizon.