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Eagle Bancorp, Inc. (EGBN)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Apr 19, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Eagle Bancorp First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would like to introduce your host for today's conference Charles Livingston, Chief Financial Officer. Sir, you may begin.

Charles Livingston

Analyst

Thank you, Terrance. Good morning. This is Charles Livingston, Chief Financial Officer of Eagle Bancorp. Before we begin the presentation, I would like to remind everyone that some of the comments made during this call maybe considered forward-looking statements. Our Form 10-K for the 2016 fiscal year, our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and current reports on Form 8-K identify certain factors that could cause the Company's actual results to differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements made this morning. The Company does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events or developments. Our periodic reports are available from the Company or online on the Company’s website or the SEC website. I would like to remind you that while we think that our prospects for continued growth and performance are good, it is our policy not to establish with the markets any earnings, margin or balance sheet guidance. Now, I would like to introduce Ron Paul, the Chairman and CEO of Eagle Bancorp.

Ron Paul

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

Thank you, Charles, and thanks for your first kick-off of our earnings call and your new role as CFO. Welcome to all of you on the line for the discussion of our results in the first quarter of 2017. We appreciate you joining us this morning and your continued interest. Our Chief Credit Officer, Jan Williams is also on the line with us and she, Charles and I will be glad to answer any questions later in the call. We are very pleased to announce that earnings for the first quarter were $27 million, a 16% increase from the $23.2 million for the third quarter - for the three quarters ending March 31, 2016 and a 5% increase over the net earnings in the fourth quarter of 2016 of $25.7 million. These earnings included a $589,000 benefit or $0.02 per share for the accounting change related to the share based compensation transactions mentioned in last night's press release. Excluding this benefit, from the new accounting guidance net income was $26.5 million and earnings per diluted share was $0.77 for the first quarter of 2017 increased from $0.68 a year ago and $0.75 for the first quarter of 2016. We are very proud to continue our record of consistent growth and earnings with this being our 33rd consecutive quarter of record net income. We are pleased not only by the growth in net income but with the quality of our earnings and a high level of profitability which is reflected in a return on average assets of 1.62% during the first quarter which is an increase from 1.54% in the first quarter of 2016. This is the highest ROAA we have ever achieved. The return on average common equity was 12.74% for the first quarter improve from 12.39% a year ago.…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Andrew Taylor from KBW. Your line is open.

Andrew Taylor

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

Good morning, everyone. So, first question just on the margin, obviously deploying the excess liquidity to help drive some of the expansion and offset the higher deposit cost. And as we move forward into this year, just directionally do you think we could see some pressure to the margin, do you think you have left the lever of excess liquidity or do you think that the better loan pricing that you're getting will be enough to offset the higher funding costs?

Ron Paul

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

It’s a great question Drew, and it's the balance that we keep playing with is that obviously we are balancing our liquidity position, we want to stay about that 100% loan to deposit ratio. Liability costs clearly are going up but offset by that and I can't say it's going to be dollar to dollar but offset by that we certainly see the pricing power that we’re having on the loan side. As we always talk about, we never know who in the market all of a sudden is going to wake up one day and decide to boost liabilities, but right now we feel pretty comfortable on a stable - fairly stable liquidity pricing model and our ongoing ability of seeing the pricing. Obviously a lot of our loan pricing yields that we've been able to get over the past six months were just starting to begin to see that in the funding side both on the construction lending side and on the loans and process that we have in underwriting.

Andrew Taylor

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

Okay, great. That's helpful. Maybe switching to over the fee income. Obviously, you mentioned FHA business and you also articulated a target of drawing fees to around 10% of operating revenues over the course of the year. Clearly the FHS business is the leather for you and I don't know - you touched on prepared remarks, any additional color on where you guys are in the approval process. Also maybe just talking about production volumes currently and how quickly that will be added over time?

Ron Paul

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

We have a great pipeline in the FHA side. The team is working diligently on the approvals, on the Ginnie Mae side. We seem to have gone through and completed all of the process and procedures that they have asked us for. So it's really in their hands right now and I don’t want to say any day because I said that before but we certainly believe that it is imminent. We haven't gotten any kick back from them, answered all their questions, they've come in and done this scrubbing and it's just a matter now of time. Fortunately we do have a buildup of the pipeline and the ability of closing this FHA deals once we get the Ginnie approval.

Andrew Taylor

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

Okay. That’s helpful. I’ll hop out. Thanks guys.

Ron Paul

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

To the other thing I’ll just answer on that is that obviously from a funding perspective you’ll have loans that will come off the books on the loan side once we funded into the Ginnie side. So there is a balance between those as well.

Andrew Taylor

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

Got it. Great, thanks guys. Good quarter.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Casey Whitman from Sandler O’Neill. Your line is open.

Casey Whitman

Analyst

Good morning. Just one follow-on for the fee income question. Wondering how is the pipeline for SBA lending, what’s your outlook for that group this year?

Ron Paul

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

We had a fairly weak first quarter on SBA but the pipeline is still there. Unfortunately SBA is just such a choppy product and therefore you're always vulnerable to the premiums versus here with SBA but we - we feel pretty good on what we have especially on the construction side of SBA product. Casey again the same comment, when that 10%, 11% on average on the non-interest income.

Casey Whitman

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then just some question on the tax rate. Can you walk us through just how you’re thinking about it, how occurring is the tax changes, is it something that’s going to be predominately happen in the first quarter of every year because that's one I guess equity [comes decisions paid] [ph] out or do you think look at this over tax rate throughout this year?

Charles Levingston

Analyst

I think that's right Casey. We are not issuing options as a practice much anymore, just a restricted stock awards and those are issued typically in the first quarter on a best-in [ph] scheduled and the angle of best-in schedule where you’ll see annually that difference between the book value and the fair market value booked as a tax expense and therefore taking as a deduction on those taxes. So yes, I think that’s right, it’s likely you’ll see that as a first quarter event.

Casey Whitman

Analyst

Okay. So all is equal just with the state of apportionment taxes you alluded to earlier if you were running at - call it 38.5 tax rate prior to this quarter for the next three quarters you will be running closer to 37.5, call it?

Charles Levingston

Analyst

I would say those effective tax rate can move a little - I think that impacted portion is an ongoing benefit to us. Between this 37.5, 38.5 range is likely where you’ll see that tax rate going forward all-times equal.

Casey Whitman

Analyst

Great, very helpful. Good quarter.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from David Bishop from FIG Partners. Your line is open.

David Bishop

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is open

Good morning, gentlemen. Just curious what - I don't know if you have in terms of the average loan yields. How does that sort of trend over the course of the quarter maybe not the beginning of the quarter January versus March was a much of a change in terms of a yields within the commercial and commercial real estate markets?

Ron Paul

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is open

For the first time David, we are seeing that opportunity of getting the pricing power that we've been working on for the past six months. So obviously the payoffs are going to be at one rate but the higher rate on the new funding. So that's something that we think - we've talked about before and we're seeing more and more at loan committee in terms of the borrower willing to pay off up where the benefit of Eagle on the certainty of execution and all the reasons that we've been able to maintain the asset side that we have over the year. So we see that continuing and we haven't gotten really any pushback from where we think is the appropriate rate.

David Bishop

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is open

Got it. And maybe on opposite side on the deposit side, has seen some pressure there. Is that more just a of function of what’s happening in the market or is that just a need to sort of fund that expected loan growth that you’re seeing?

Ron Paul

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is open

Well a lot of that is just funding the expected loan growth. When you're growing 12% loan growth and need big chunks of deposits, you're dealing with different type of depositors then so the municipalities as an example, the larger more sophisticated type of borrower - I’m sorry, a depositor is something that is sensitive to what the market is and what they can get elsewhere. So, that's certainly something that we - that we are fighting. Although I will say that certainly over the past couple of weeks you've seen a stabilization of that requirement and the opportunity but our main focus is still the DDAs and the core side we have a new team that we put in place over the past six months, commercial deposits, operation people that are just really focusing more and more and going back to our customers to be able to increase deposit growth. So we believe that the liability side hopefully will stabilize.

David Bishop

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is open

Great. Thanks for the color.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Austin Nicholas from Stephens. Your line is open.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Good morning. You talked about the FHA approval on the Ginnie Mae. Is there any impact from the new administration or changes in those government entities that could be slowing things down a bit or is it more just a natural ongoing kind of bumpiness in those businesses?

Ron Paul

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

I think that the FHA Ginnie process is pretty down on the totem pole right now. I don't think so, I think if anything that could be an encouragement of getting this program funded because I think they need to see that the opportunities in getting that into the market. So the answer is no, this is just unfortunately the bureaucratic process that we're going through that I can only tell you is extremely painful but genuinely believe that in a relatively short period of time that this will get funded and will be a great opportunity for us on the non-interest income side.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Got you. Thanks Ron, that’s helpful. And then maybe just looking at the D.C. market, you noted oversupply of certain products in certain sub-markets and Eagle's ability to kind of target the markets that are more attractive and given your footprint and your deep penetration down in that kind of Central D.C. area. Where are those areas that you think there may be oversupply and where are you seeing more opportunities versus others?

Ron Paul

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

I think we are an incredibly awesome place at the bank because we could satisfy the larger borrower but never losing sight of the smaller borrower. And our ability and I mentioned earlier the certainty of execution is such a key part to this market because we're dealing with one-off type ideals, we're not the ones that you're going to look to borrow to be on the front page of the glossy annual report. So I’ll say the Class A apartment buildings that are down by the ballpark right now are not typically the deals that we’re looking at. The B+ maybe to B- type of projects are still our sweet-spot and that's where we're seeing constant demand both on the multi-family side and even a little pick up on the office side. We were never - we would never be on the suburban office market in the suburbs but there is been a little bit of pickup in activity on the leasing side again that 3,000, 5,000 foot type user. So we're seeing that. We are also seeing a big increase in our C&I side. We are probably working on more C&I loan request that we seen in a long time with some of the pricing power that we talk about not nearly the pricing power that we have on the real-estate side. So, sub-markets I would say are certainly Western Virginia, and when I say Western, I’ll talk about Lowndes County market, is it is an abundance of product out there. We are really not there but if you look at downtown, the Millennial growth downtown is just a game changer and we've been able to capitalize on that over the past couple of years. So on the B+ we're seeing a little bit of a slowdown in the ability to push rents. On the A product - again I could just from a real estate background, on the A product you're seeing a flattening of rents. There is a tremendous amount of units coming up on the market over the next 18 months but again in the world that we're playing in on that the B type product is a enormous demand. And also remember that B type product is an older type product that they're renovating the building. Their largest size unit. So you have roommates which is an opportunity to be able to offset the increase in the pricing, so the $4 foot rental rate you can have a roommate that’s going to help subsidize that. So we feel pretty good in this space that we play in.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Got you. That was really helpful. Appreciate it. I think that's all I have got. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

And at this time I'm showing no further questions.

Ron Paul

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open

Well thank you all again for listening to the call. We appreciate it and we're looking forward to speaking with you at the end of next quarter. Thank you very much.