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Eagle Bancorp, Inc. (EGBN)

Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 21, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Eagle Bancorp First Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mr. Jim Langmead Chief Financial Officer. Sir, you may begin.

Jim Langmead

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

Thank you, Tarya. Good morning everyone. Before we begin the formal remarks I would like to remind you that some of the comments made during this call may be considered forward-looking statements. Our Form 10-K for the 2015 fiscal year and our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and current reports on Form 8-K identify certain factors that could cause the Company's actual results to differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements made this morning. The Company does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events or developments. Our periodic reports are available from the Company or online on the Company's website or the SEC website. I would also like to remind you that while we think that our prospects for continued growth and performance are good it is our policy not to establish with the markets any earnings, margin or balance sheet guidance. Now I would like to introduce Ron Paul, the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Eagle Bancorp.

Ron Paul

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

Thanks, Jim. I would like to welcome all of you to our earnings call to discuss our results in the first quarter of 2016. We appreciate you calling in to join us this morning and your continued interest. Our Chief Credit Officer, Jan Williams is out of the office this week so Jim and I will be glad to answer any questions you may have later in the call. We are very pleased to announce a 20% increase in earnings for the first quarter of 2016 as compared to the first quarter of 2015 and an 11% increase in fully diluted earnings-per-share as compared to the first quarter of last year. Earnings for the first quarter were 23.2 million up from 19.4 million for the three months ending March 31st, 2015. Earnings per diluted share were $0.68 for the first quarter of 2016 increased from $0.61 a year-ago. We are very pleased with the quality of our earnings and profitability which is reflected in the return on average assets of 1.54% during the first quarter which is increased from 1.49% in the first quarter of 2015. The return on average common equity of 12.39% for the first quarter of this year is down slightly from 13.24% a year-ago due to the increased capital raised in March 2015 of $100 million in the equity offering. We are also very proud to note that the first quarter of 2016 is a 29th consecutive quarters in which we have realized record increasing earnings. We continue our consistent long-term performance. As shown in our Annual Report recently mailed to our shareholders over the five year period ended December 31st, 2015 we have achieved a 38% compounded annual growth rate of increased earnings, a 29% growth rate in earnings per share, and an 18% growth…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Casey Orr of Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open.

Casey Orr

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

I was hoping we could dive a little more into the margin and what specifically was going on with deposit cost this quarter. It looked like deposit cost went up, that was driven or was that driven I should say by the Fed move in December or are you running any deposit specials in the quarter that would have impacted those rates?

Jim Langmead

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

Yes, Casey. I think your points about the Fed's move in December had an impact. Some of our customers that had larger balance in their accounts have come -- I think it's a competitive factor. We're seeing more and more discussion of higher rates although as you know rates are actually reversed themselves here to an even greater extent in the first quarter of the year, but I would say it's competitive pressure. Our money market rate averaged 33 basis points in the fourth quarter and it was up 4 basis points in the first quarter to 37 basis points, but overall as Ron commented in the -- his remarks about our ALCO process, we think our cost of money which is only 36 basis points or so is very strong compared to other banks, but we do need to continue to grow that deposit base, we have got competition in the marketplace and that was the reason that that first quarter was up a little bit.

Casey Orr

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

And then on the same lines I guess how high are you comfortable with the loan deposit ratio getting to? I mean could we see that go above 100%?

Ron Paul

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

No. We like to stay at that 95%, 98% range. You know, it fluctuates every day. We feel comfortable with that with the amount of alternative sources of funds that we have. If you look on our list of deposits, you will see that there's significant liquidity that we could tap into if that's what we wanted, but in that 95%, 98% range is the comfortable level. Could it slip above a hundred sure but not for any extended period of time.

Casey Orr

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

One more just switching gears. With the success of integration of Virginia Heritage now well behind you, I guess what's your appetite for future M&A deals and what are some areas that’s outside your current footprint that you would consider moving into?

Jim Langmead

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

We continue to take the position that we will stay in the Washington metropolitan area. That hasn't changed. With our currency and with opportunities that are out there we're always looking like everybody, but as we have consistently said that it would have to be accretive out of the box and in a market that we want to continue our footprint in, which is again in that Washington metropolitan area.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Catherine Mealor of KBW. Your line is now open.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

One quick follow-on to Casey's deposit questions. So how should we think about additional deposit increases from here if we don't see any more Fed increases for the rest of the year? Do you feel like deposit costs should be stable until the next Fed move or as you think about local competition and trying to keep that loan to deposit ratio at a level that you want you still may see some increases in deposit costs throughout the year?

Jim Langmead

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

You know, obviously so much of it is driven by competition. You know, you can have a bank around the corner that's decides do increase their diameters and that's certainly a competitive pressure. We don't see that as of right now to any large degree, but nonetheless it is a question that we're asked all the time as the Fed has increased rates why haven't we aggressively increased deposits. There's always an answer. Having said that so much of what our deposits consist of our core relationships and so much of that core relationship both has loans and deposits so the standard answer is we will be more than happy to increase deposits if we increase your loans. So that's the balance that we're always playing off of with 28% of our deposits in DDAs we feel good about that because of the size that we are now we are seeing more and more opportunities from larger institutions whether it's universities, hospitals, etcetera. So we're continuing to see that opportunity for large size deposits because they recognize counties as well. They recognize our commitment to putting money back into the community. So we are seeing those opportunities and again it is a competitive market.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

And then pushing over [ph] to fees other income was also higher this quarter. Any commentary on what is driving that?

Ron Paul

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

Yes. We had I think at our press release commentary we had an OREO property that we settled and sold and generated a profit of -- it was about $570,000, Catherine in OREO. So that was recorded in other income within non-interest income.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Joe Gladue of Merion Capital Group. Your line is now open.

Joe Gladue

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Your line is now open

I wanted to I guess follow the sort of the net interest margin question from topic from the other side on the loan side. Just first off are you still seeing lower yields on new loans that are being issued as opposed to loans that are paying off or rolling off? Is that still the case?

Jim Langmead

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Your line is now open

We are, Joe. A good question. Yes, that's the reason in this very low interest rate continuing low rate environment. The average new loan yield we had in the first quarter was about 4 and 7 [indiscernible] call it 484 was the exact number. So that's the rate and the fee and then on the payoff side it's around 520 to 525. So we're giving up 35 to 40 basis points, which is pretty consistent with the fourth quarter of 2015 and the year of 2015. So it is a function of where we are in the rate cycle and how long we have been here and it is probably going to continue to some extent, but we minimize any impacts there.

Joe Gladue

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Your line is now open

Okay. And you touched on I guess the loan to deposit ratio a little bit, but I guess I was looking at it from the loans from the perspective of percentage of running assets and the loans have been rising approaching 90% of earning assets these days. Is that something you think you will maintain or do you expect to put on more securities or--

Jim Langmead

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Your line is now open

No. I do. I expect that's where we'll be. Ron had commented earlier that we operate kind of in that 95%, 96%, 98% loan to deposit ratio so you can -- and that's been there for are a while. We were a little bit elevated this time because of the loan growth relative to deposits, but over time I think the 96%, 97%, 98% is where we'll operate.

Joe Gladue

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Your line is now open

Okay. All right. And I guess just lastly just a couple of I guess relatively minor items, but there was some I guess big percentage increases in, you know, the expenses in regards to marketing and professional services. Those just seasonal bumps there? Anything we should know about going on there?

Jim Langmead

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Your line is now open

I mean I think the only thing that's early in the year that's not comparable from a quarter to quarter basis, Joe, as you recall Ron talked extensively about the agreement we have with George Mason University that began kind of mid-year in 2015 and so now we'll have a full year impact. So if you really looking first quarter to first quarter we have a new expense. We had put out a press release on that on the overall cost of it, which is -- you know, I recall somewhere around $600,000 or so per year so you have that impact on a quarter to quarter comparison.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Dave Bishop of FIG Partners. Your line is now open.

Dave Bishop

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is now open

A question for you. There's been a lot of headlines regarding the [indiscernible] commercial real estate and we have heard some markets are seeing some weakness maybe on the higher end side, maybe on the condo multi-family. Can you talk about what you're seeing in the metro DC market? You know what areas are stronger than others and maybe where -- if you are seeing any sort of pull back or stabilization maybe?

Ron Paul

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is now open

Sure. Again, as we have said really quarter-over-quarter Washington is just had an incredible growth rate of 68,000 jobs, actually there's an article about it last weakened that they're expecting that to even go higher going forward. A lot of that is millennial driven which is exactly the market that we're playing in downtown. Multifamily there's certainly a lot of construction going on, but I can telling you as of right now we haven't seen any uptick in vacancies or concessions. Again, bear in mind in that we're not doing the 300 units project, we're doing the 100, 150 unit project so the operating expenses are much more manageable, the marking is much more manageable, and the price per foot on the rental side is cheaper. You know, we probably for the past 18 months to two years we have seen a softening in the suburban office market. However, I will say that over the past couple of months we have been reading and statistically have recognized that we have seen stabilization within the suburban office market and very pleased about that. I can tell you that in the Montgomery County as an example number of office buildings that we follow very carefully the smaller mid-sized tenant which I'm going to say is let's just say the 5000 to 10,000 square foot range is actually seeing a pickup in demand. So I would say that we're seeing a stabilization. If there was a concern I had, it would be in the higher end larger, size multifamily projects downtown.

Dave Bishop

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is now open

And then shifting back to operating expenses, you know, clearly good operating leverage this quarter in the phase where you typically see sort of resets on the compensation side. Do you think this is a pretty good run-rate moving forwards into the next few quarters or are you anticipating any sort of operating expense pressure in terms any new initiatives or investments we should bake in?

Ron Paul

Analyst · FIG Partners. Your line is now open

Well, I would say, Dave, that as we go through the year we have got plans with regard to additional personnel, but I think you can -- the premises and equipment costs are probably going to be pretty stable. Other expenses tends to move up a little bit as the bank moves through the year and we do add people and we get larger and things relating to the size of the organization, but overall we have been operating in that call it 41 to 42.5 range in terms of efficiency ratio and that's kind of a target range for us. So it's one of the dials and I would say we will continue to be consistent in that management, but I would expect that the trends would be slightly up in dollar terms just because of what's going to happen to salary and benefits as you go through the year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Matt Schultheis of Boenning. Your line is now open.

Matt Schultheis

Analyst · Boenning. Your line is now open

So a really quick question on your equipment lease that you began to really do in the fourth quarter I guess of last year or you announced. Is that performing as expected, worse than expected, better than expected?

Ron Paul

Analyst · Boenning. Your line is now open

Matt, it's really a minor product that we have in the quiver, but I'm not really anticipating that to be any driving part to it so I would say that it's as expected. The area that we're very excited about being the FHA product is something that we think has a huge opportunity for us so that would certainly be -- those being the two newest products we have a lot of confidence in our FHA program.

Matt Schultheis

Analyst · Boenning. Your line is now open

And this is kind of a -- it may be hard to quantify and the answer may be zero, but with the DC metro expected to close for a month, maybe 6th, on the blue line, is there a disruption to your borrowers, your business and, if so, what would that look like?

Ron Paul

Analyst · Boenning. Your line is now open

I don't think it has any impact on our customers or -- you know, it obviously creates an inconvenience on the employment side, but I will tell you that without digressing too much into the new head of metro is just a real rockstar and have a lot of confidence and believe strongly that the impact that he is making and the determination of turning around metro is critical and will be a huge long-term benefit to the market. So I really don't -- again, big inconvenience when metro was shut down that one day, traffic wasn't horrible so it's not something that we're -- that concerned about.

Matt Schultheis

Analyst · Boenning. Your line is now open

Okay. I just wasn't sure if more complex logistics might affect the project development timing and start timing of things of that nature but thanks for the color.

Ron Paul

Analyst · Boenning. Your line is now open

Yes. There's also been some comments that has come back that he has retracted his statement about closing it for a six month period. We're going to start a shuttle service to increase our non-interest income.

Operator

Operator

Thank you and at this time I am showing there are no further participants in the queue. I would like to turn the call back to management for any closing remarks.

Ron Paul

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill. Your line is now open

No closing remarks. Just I think that we're very pleased with the way things are going. It's consistent. I think that we're always looking for the run, not for the short period to period. Very satisfied with where things are. Very optimistic as to the market and believe strongly that the growth that we have had will continue based on the pipeline that we have seen. So other than for that thank you everybody for calling in. Hope to see you at the annual meeting and as always if there's any questions don't hesitate to call. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation on today's conference. This concludes your program. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.