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eGain Corporation (EGAN)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, May 11, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the eGain Fiscal 2023 Third Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jim Byers of MKR Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Jim Byers

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon everyone. Welcome to eGain's fiscal 2023 third quarter financial results conference call. On the call today are eGain's Chief Executive Officer, Ashu Roy; and Chief Financial Officer, Eric Smit. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during this conference call management will make certain forward-looking statements, which convey management's expectations, beliefs, plans and objectives regarding future financial and operational performance. Forward-looking statements are generally preceded by words such as believe, plan, intend, expect, anticipate or similar expressions. And these forward-looking statements are protected by safe harbor provisions contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to a wide range of risks and uncertainties and that could cause actual results to differ in material respects. Information on various factors that could affect eGain’s results are detailed in the company's reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. eGain is making these statements as of today, May 11, 2023, and assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any of the forward-looking information in this conference call. In addition to GAAP results, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures such as non-GAAP operating income. The tables included with the earnings press release include a reconciliation of the historical non-GAAP financial measures to the most recently comparable GAAP financial measures. In addition, our earnings press release can be found by clicking the press release link on the Investor Relations page of eGain's website at egain.com. Along with the earnings press release, we will post an updated investor presentation to the Investor Relations page of the website. And lastly, a phone replay of this conference call will be available for one week. And now with that said, I'd like to turn the call over to eGain's CEO, Ashu Roy.

Ashu Roy

Analyst

Thank you. Thank you, Jim, and hello everyone. We are pleased with our overall performance this quarter. Revenue came within our guidance range and bottom line was ahead of guidance and consensus. We also initiated our stock buyback program and we still reported an increase in our cash balance due to positive cash flow in the quarter. Looking at our financial results, total revenue for the quarter was $23 million, within our guidance range. We implemented expense controls to align with current market conditions to deliver non-GAAP EPS of $0.30 that exceeded our guidance and consensus. And we were cash flow positive ending the quarter with more than $81 million in cash. Turning to business highlights, interest in our knowledge powered customer engagement platform continues to be strong. Decision making on new logo deals is still a challenge; however, we did sign several new deals toward the end of the quarter. And in the last month or so we have seen several enterprises now re-engaging on paused opportunities in our pipeline, after what seems like the dust settling after the internal reorganization and business adjustment. This leads us to believe that market conditions may be stabilizing. Our U.S. customer base continues to show resilience in the quarter, with healthy renewal and expansion rates. Our European customer base stabilized with no additional significant churn and some nice expansion business. As I noted, we signed several new customers near the end of the quarter. Let me share some notable ones. The first one is a major health insurance provider in the Midwest. The next one I want to bring out is a top 10 credit union in the U.S., and then another one is a U.S. based commercial insurance business. In terms of mentioned expansion wins, let me highlight a few. A…

Eric Smit

Analyst

Thanks, Ashu, and thanks everyone for joining us today. Let me share some financial highlights for the quarter before getting into our outlook and guidance for Q4 and the full year fiscal 2023. Total revenue for Q3 was $23 million, down 4% year-over-year or down 1% in constant currency, coming in within our guidance range despite the shift in our focus to profitability and balanced growth. Contribution from our Cisco OEM business sequentially declined, which we believe was due to a timing issue on revenue recognition, as Cisco has indicated that they continue to see good momentum in the business. Had the contribution from the Cisco OEM business been in line with our internal forecast, our top line results would have been ahead of our guidance and consensus. For the first nine months, total revenue was $73.4 million, up 7% year-over-year. SaaS revenue for Q3 was $20.9 million, up 1% year-over-year or up 3% in constant currency. For the first nine months, SaaS revenue was $66.9 million, up 11% year-over-year. Legacy revenue in Q3 was down to just 126,000 and accounts for less than 1% of total revenue. When looking at revenue by region, North America accounted for 78% total revenue this quarter, up from 73% in the year ago quarter. Total revenue from North America was $17.9 million, up 2% year-over-year or in contrast total revenue from Europe was $5.2 million, a decrease of 20% year-over-year. Looking at non-GAAP gross profits and gross margins, gross profit for the quarter was $15.8 million, down 13% year-over-year or a gross margin of 69% compared to 76% for the prior year and 75% last quarter. The decline in gross margins is primarily a function of lower revenue for the quarter. In addition, as we are in the middle of a major upgrade…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jeff Van Rhee with Craig Hallum. Please go ahead.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Great! Thanks for taking my questions. I guess just a bunch of them for me. Just talk about SaaS in your expectations, I guess on a sequential basis, how you think that’s going to play here. Maybe just a little more context on the sequential change this quarter, maybe start there.

Eric Smit

Analyst

Sorry Jeff, just to clear, that’s on the SaaS revenue. Is that…?

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Yes, just on the SaaS line. I was just looking at it sequentially. I know EMEA, which I want to touch on in a second was very weak. But just, you talked about Cisco. I am trying to discern what happened in the SaaS line sequentially and the sequential drop.

Eric Smit

Analyst

So I think just to recap, as we had discussed on the call last in Q2, the first component was the fewer days in the quarter. I believe we said estimated probably about a 400K impact. And then there was a seasonal business that we had highlighted that we didn’t expect to repeat, which ended up being correct. And then there were the EMEA customer losses that we’ve also discussed. So those all came in pretty much as we had expected. And then on the Cisco OEM side, that decline was close to 600,000 sequentially. So that was the surprise that we hadn’t anticipated in the quarter.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Okay. And then you talked about the gross margin pressure coming from duplicative AWS costs. How do we think about gross margins in the next several quarters? How does that play?

Eric Smit

Analyst

So we’re obviously looking – working closely to optimize that. I would say that we will start to see some improvements, but it will take another quarter or two for us to get through the – you know complete the cycle. So I would say that we will start to see movement back into the low 70% range within the next couple of quarters, moving up into the mid-70’s again.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Yeah, okay. All right, and then you talked about some of the pilots that you are doing around the AI Instant Answers. Just talk a bit more about that. How many are you doing? Just any surprises on the use cases, kind of how they are being deployed, and then obviously just interested in the cost and economics of deploying those.

Ashu Roy

Analyst

Right, so a couple of comments. One yeah, so the primary use case that we are deploying right now is in helping the agents or the associates who are in these customer service groups with a generated consumable answer that is tapping into multiple content sources in the background from the knowledge base, and bringing it out with all the verification and stuff that we have built into it and that's the primary Instant Answers use case we are piloting right now. Piloting it in multiple places. Say, the place where we are seeing the most interest is in organizations that have what I call lots of long-form documents, which are all approved and correct, but not easy to process and find the right answer in the moment of the contact or interaction. That's where we are finding the most need, and that's where we are piloting this.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

And maybe just last for me, when you are looking at those deploys, in terms of a cost to the end consumer once you incorporate GPT or whatever you are using for the underlying AI, just what's that cost dynamic? Do you have a benchmark, something you can compare it to?

A - Ashu Roy

Analyst

So for now, the pilots that we are doing, we haven't yet started charging them, because these are pilots, and we are monitoring the level of usage and the amount of content that we have to work through to deliver that. Our sense is that we should be able to – with a larger client, be able to bring it out into a bundled solution, but that's something we are going to be refining and defining over the next few months.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Yeah, understood. Thank you.

A - Ashu Roy

Analyst

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Baldry with Roth. Please go ahead.

Richard Baldry

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Maybe from a broader perspective, talk about the impact you think the genre of AI has or will have. It feels like a lot of people are saying it could have delayed some deals, because it creates more confusion over the short term. Others are saying they think it expands the TAM, because more companies are now aware of some of the functionality that is coming online, but learning about the fact that they need to hook it on to a system of record class platform to make it work. So we sort of understand where you're thinking its impacting now versus where it could be six, 12, 18 months out. Thanks.

A - Ashu Roy

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

Sure. I think both the points you raised I agree with, even though they are sort of working at cross-purposes, but the timeline I think is different. The initial excitement or the need to go try out GPT or any sort of generative capability, that definitely has created another element of – another factor of consideration, and we saw that in a few of our conversations. Like a large bank we were working with went through another cycle of confirming that we could in fact incorporate not just what we are doing with generatives, but also what they are doing internally with it, if they wanted to plug it in at some point in a domain specific way. So yes, there is that extra loop or extra cycle that is getting added to these discussions. But as you said, on the positive side, there is a clear understanding or clearer understanding I would say, that these businesses need to have a modern knowledge platform, because without that, you know the usual risks that everyone is well aware of now, is you are not learning from the right things from a generative standpoint, and the risk of somehow getting it wrong once in a while is something that businesses cannot contend with, right. So, both of those are true, and we are really hammering on both of them. In other words, we are positioning ourselves not just as the platform of choice for a modern knowledge hub, but also pointing out that businesses can try out these generative capabilities in our environment, much easier and better than they would otherwise by doing their own internal connections into different content silos.

Richard Baldry

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

And do you think that it does expand the TAM meaningfully over sort of an intermediate-term or a long-term basis or do you think it’s just more additive and applicable sort of to the markets you’ve been addressing already?

Ashu Roy

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

I would say that it brings the market in faster. I think that the rate at which people will drive this sort of replatforming if you will, of their content and knowledge assets is going to accelerate. I certainly think that’s going to happen. So, as to whether the market grows beyond what we see the market today, yes, it will. But that will need more enhancements to sort of incorporating those generative capabilities into the solution, which is something that we are doing in this process as well.

Richard Baldry

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

And given it looks like there is going to be multiple competing sort of AI engines out there, do you care in any meaningful way, you know which ones are successful or how much market share either ends up with, or do you feel like your platform should be pretty much plug-and-play with whichever flavor becomes important to any given client?

Ashu Roy

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

So to begin with, our architecture is composable, so we don’t really have a strong inclination one way or the other, but what we are doing is making sure that we can work with different flavors, and that’s something we just ensure with our connectors and open platform.

Richard Baldry

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

Okay. And the last for me, it looks like a lot of the cost-cutting is hid in the sales and marketing area. Can you talk about how you prioritized where to make those cuts? Is it people that are multi-platformed, sort of ready to sell versus point solutions based on tenure, just so we can understand how much that’s impacted your go-to-market engine? Thanks.

Ashu Roy

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

Sure. So, we are keeping the front end of the funnel building relatively steady, and so we’ll be marketing and creating that top of the funnel continuously, because we know that that is going to be very valuable as the market turns around. In terms of people, the goal here is to have the best sales people, so we have done performance assessments and looked at people who can sell this proposition in the enterprise, and that's really the group that we are retaining and building on.

Richard Baldry

Analyst · Roth. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Ashu Roy

Analyst

Great. Thanks Operator, and thanks everybody for taking the time today. I look forward to providing an update next quarter.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.