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eGain Corporation (EGAN)

Q3 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, May 8, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the eGain Fiscal 2020 Third Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Jim Byers of MKR Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Jim Byers

Management

Thank you, operator. And good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to eGain’s Third Quarter Fiscal 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. On the call today are eGain’s Chief Executive Officer, Ashu Roy; and Chief Financial Officer, Eric Smit. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during this conference call, management will make certain forward-looking statements which convey management’s expectations, beliefs, plans and objectives regarding future financial and operational performance. Forward-looking statements are generally preceded by words such as believe, plan, intend, expect, anticipate or similar expressions. Forward-looking statements are protected by safe harbor provisions contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to a wide range of risks and uncertainties and could cause actual results to differ in material respects. Information on various factors that could affect eGain’s results are detailed in the company’s reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. eGain is making these statements as of today, May 7, 2020, and assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any of the forward-looking information in this conference call. In addition to GAAP results, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures such as non-GAAP operating income. Our earnings press release can be found in the News Release link on the Investor Relations page at eGain’s website at egain.com. The tables included with the earnings press release include reconciliation of the historical non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. In addition, a replay of this conference call will also be available in the Investor Relations section of eGain’s website. And now with that said, I’d like to turn the call over to eGain’s CEO, Ashu Roy.

Ashu Roy

Management

Thank you, Jim. And hello, everyone. We are pleased to report solid financial results for the third quarter. But before I go there, let me share a quick update on COVID-19 with respect to our business. As the pandemic unfolded in March, we adjusted our business and, within days, we successfully transitioned our worldwide teams to a 100% work-from-home operation with no business interruption and no material impact to our service delivery capabilities. In short, our business continuity plan worked as expected, that was good. Turning to the business impact of COVID-19. Some of our deals, especially new logos slipped in March, as purchasing decisions stalled. Some of those stalled deals have since closed in April and most others remain engaged and they look to resume once lockdown restrictions ease. At the same time, we saw a positive increase in business from our customers looking to deflect more phone interactions to digital and drive more automation. Many of our clients successfully handled customer contact surges with our solutions, driving more self service and more digital engagement. In addition, they also enabled workforces and reconfigured them with our knowledge and guidance solutions. In fact, some of clients who were impacted by the sudden shutdown of their global operations, especially on BPOs managed to use our knowledge and guidance solutions to empower their field and store staff who are not contact center folks to resolve customer queries in the interim. So very agile and flexible responses enabled by our solutions. Some other customers activated our virtual assistant to ask for conversational self service, reducing pressure on their contact centers. For example, a European insurance client handled a 700% increase in customer contact. They’re a life insurance provider; you can imagine that concern from customers. Using our self-service solution and mounted solution. A…

Eric Smit

Management

Great. Thanks, Ashu. And thanks, everybody, for joining us today. As Ashu mentioned, we had solid third quarter results all around with top and bottom line results that exceeded our guidance and were ahead of Street consensus. And we delivered these results while transitioning our business to a work-from-home operation without missing a beat. As I noted last quarter, as we have shifted to 100% SaaS business, substantially all of our professional services are now for our SaaS customers. So we believe the combination of SaaS revenue and professional services as a useful measure to value our business on a forward-looking basis. Looking at the financial highlights from Q3, SaaS revenue was up 26% year-over-year and 5% sequentially. Non-GAAP net income was $2.4 million or $0.08 per share on a basic and $0.07 per share on a diluted basis. And cash provided by operations for the quarter was $415,000, and that puts us at $8.5 million cash from operations year-to-date. And finally, we ended the quarter with $40.7 million in cash, with no debt. Now looking at our quarterly results in more detail, starting with revenue. For Q3, our SaaS and professional services revenue was $16.3 million and comprised 89% of our total revenue, up 20% year-over-year. This highlights our progress towards our long-term target model of total revenue growth of between 20% and 25%. SaaS revenue was $14.8 million, up 26% year-over-year and accounted for 81% of our total revenue in Q3. On a sequential basis, SaaS revenue grew 5% over Q2, and year-to-date SaaS revenue was up 24% year-over-year. Our renewals and retentions continued to be in line during the quarter and the trailing 12-month SaaS retention rates remain healthy with gross retention in the low 90% range and our net retention, which includes upsell and uplift, continues…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will take our first question. This comes from Koji Ikeda with Oppenheimer.

Koji Ikeda

Analyst

Ashu and Eric, nice to hear your voices and hope you and your family and friends are all safe out there in these weird times. First question here is on the guidance for SaaS revenue for the fourth quarter. It calls for growth to accelerate, I think. So what’s giving you that confidence? How much of that acceleration is being driven by pushed deals that already closed? And I guess is there anything else in there that we should be aware of?

Eric Smit

Management

Thanks, Koji. Thanks for the words. Yes, I think everything is doing well and hopefully the same for you. So I think when you look at the actual numbers, the SaaS numbers on a sequential basis are going to be flat to declining is what we’ve guided. So although that has resulted in the strong results for Q3 combined with the Q4 numbers give us the increased overall guidance for the year. But certainly we factored some impact of the slipped deals into the guidance that we’ve provided that provides the numbers that we’ve outlined.

Koji Ikeda

Analyst

Eric, that’s super helpful. Thank you. And maybe a big picture question on the go-to-market for either you or Ashu is, how are you guys thinking about the ability to close the split between new deals and execute upsells here over the next six to nine months? And then I have just one more follow-up.

Ashu Roy

Management

Ashu here. Hi, Koji. Yes. So I do think that new logo acquisition will be slower in the next six to nine months. It will happen. We are seeing new deals close even in this quarter. But we do see sales cycles getting a little longer, especially on some of the larger deals that are new logos. On the expansion opportunities, I believe that the pickup or the kind of recycle will be faster. And we’re already seeing some of those larger deals which are in the expansion market starting to spin back up. So I think that the expansion side will recover faster. The new logo side is going to be slower to recover.

Koji Ikeda

Analyst

Got it. Got it. Thank you. And then just my last question here is, thinking about the 25% of the companies that are in, I guess you could call it troubled industries today, what is eGain doing to work with those customers that could be negatively impacted in that 25% bucket? Thank you for taking my questions.

Ashu Roy

Management

Sure. So couple of things. One, we are trying to understand what the nature of their challenge is. I mean, for instance, if I take an example of a few clients in the travel and hospitality sector, their businesses, the bottom has fallen out under it. So what we are saying is, can we reduce the commitment that they have, because their need has certainly gone down. So try to reduce that and then build back up as their business picks up. And in all this, it’s about making sure we are helping the customer through the tough time, and hopefully then, as business picks back up, we get back to a better place with them. And then the second thing we’re seeing is making sure that if there are any concerns around particular aspects of applications that a user has where the demand may have shifted into other channels. For instance, tel customers who maybe have agent-based applications from us certainly feel like their agent utilization has gone down, but they would like to drive more self service. And we are providing that licensing flexibility on our platform. That’s something that our customers appreciate and that’s another thing we are doing for them.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ryan MacDonald with Needham.

Ryan MacDonald

Analyst · Needham.

I guess first, you mentioned that you obviously have started to see some of the deals that slipped close in April. I’m just curious to see what you’re seeing in terms of pipeline and conversion outside of those slipped deals. Are you starting to see sort of an increase back in activity or maybe a little bit more disruption than you expected?

Ashu Roy

Management

Hey, Ryan. It is Ashu here. So yes, it’s a good question. What we are seeing so far is that deals that are large and in the pipe for let’s say one or two months out, they are likely going to shift by another couple of months before they get to the same stage of imminent closure, right? So you’re seeing that shift. I think a quarter shift is what we think we are anticipating in many of those cases. The priorities are not changing; we don’t sense that. But we are definitely seeing a quarter or so shift in that buying pattern. On the other hand, interestingly, we are seeing early stage pipeline building surprisingly well in April and in May. And it’s – well, it’s not surprising. But it’s good to see because what we are seeing is a lot of companies are actually stocking up engagements, saying we need to get better at our digital customer engagements, capabilities. So that’s what we have seen so far.

Ryan MacDonald

Analyst · Needham.

Excellent. Thanks. And then in terms of the customers that are sort of potentially struggling right now, are you offering anything around the flex – like flexible billing terms as a part of assisting them and trying to understand the needs that they have right now, given that their businesses have slowed down?

Ashu Roy

Management

It’s a good question. It’s something that we have an open mind toward. But what we are seeing and given our customers are very large businesses, as we mentioned, 90% of our customers net revenue are $1 billion-plus companies or government organizations, we have not seen that pressure yet, except in like 1 case that I have heard of and that was a smaller business. So I think we will have that kind of activity in that 10% zone, but not the other 90%. But Eric, any other comments on that?

Eric Smit

Management

No, I think that’s accurate, Ashu. It’s a very small number of customers have reached out to us. And if anything, it may be delaying, moving to a quarterly billing cycle from an annual one, that type of delay, but nothing significant for us to date.

Ryan MacDonald

Analyst · Needham.

Got it. And then just one more follow-up. In terms of implementations and those in process or in the pipeline, have you been able to complete those or work through those 100% remotely? Or is there any aspect where you need to be on premise? That’s it for me.

Ashu Roy

Management

Right. So there are two parts to that; one is what we can do and the second is what the customer can and is willing to do. So on our end, we’re able to do 100% of our work remotely. So that is good. On the other hand, we have had quite a few cases where the customer project teams have gotten disrupted or they have been pulled into taking are of other business continuity kind of priorities within their business. And so that has paused some of these projects because of lack of resources on their side. But that, we are starting to see that starting to pick back up, but that, that we have seen.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will comes from Richard Baldry with Roth Capital. Excuse me. Our next question will come from Mark Schappel with Benchmark. One moment, please. Caller, please go ahead.

Mark Schappel

Analyst

Nice job on the quarter. Ashu, starting with you. Healthcare has been one of your target verticals, maybe not your largest, but definitely one of interest. And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about what areas of healthcare you have been seeing your solutions deployed historically.

Ashu Roy

Management

Okay. So in healthcare what we’re seeing is more and more seeing these providers are starting to adopt our digital engagement capability. And that’s an area where we see even through our partners more interest. That’s something we are pushing on. And then the other area is the payer side, which you could put into insurance or you could put it into healthcare. But we see the healthcare aspect. So for instance, providers like the Blues, we are seeing some good success in them. Those are larger opportunities where they’re, again, looking toward more and more digitalization of their customer engagement. So in both areas we are seeing demand. But I would say the size of opportunities are larger on the payer side. But there are a number of opportunity that is larger on the provider side.

Mark Schappel

Analyst

Okay. Great. And in healthcare, there’s been a lot of talk of late just because of what’s going on with respect to telehealth. And it strikes me that messaging could play a large role there. And I know it’s early days. But I was just wondering if any healthcare providers have been approaching you or you’re in any discussions with healthcare providers regarding possibly helping out in the telehealth front.

Ashu Roy

Management

Well, we have had a few of our customers who are in the health space asking for messaging-based solutions. We have engaged with them. But broadly what we see is our sweet spot is in digital-plus automation and that’s the area where we are looking. For instance, with one of our healthcare providers, we started with agent-side knowledge and guidance solution and now we are working with them on virtual assistance through messaging. So it’s a combination of messaging plus automation.

Mark Schappel

Analyst

Great. Thank you. And then, Eric, a question for you. Guidance implies basically a low single-digit operating margin, which is much lower than the prior quarters at least this fiscal year. And is this just being conservative? Or do you expect investments to pick up in the current quarter?

Eric Smit

Management

I think, Mark, I think in this environment, this would be an element of conservatism built in, but this historically it’s our fiscal year-end so there’s year-end bonuses and comp adjustments and the like that have to be factored into the step-up of the expenses. So those are elements that we’ve considered here as well.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Baldry with Roth Capital.

Richard Baldry

Analyst · Roth Capital.

Can you hear me?

Ashu Roy

Management

Yes, we can.

Eric Smit

Management

Yes.

Richard Baldry

Analyst · Roth Capital.

Okay. Thanks. Not sure what happened last time. So can you walk us through on the partner side, if we were to look out a couple, one quarter or two, and client demand shifted pretty dramatically in favor of cloud-based solutions and they were to see their legacy installed bases start to, I guess recognize because of COVID’s issues a need to move faster, how quickly can you ramp or what type of resources would you need to ramp? Is there any gating factor there to respond to an increase in demand that it could be challenging if you’re trying to be careful about the additions you’re making internally in the interim?

Ashu Roy

Management

Good question, Rich. So two areas. That’s why I mentioned that we are going to continue to steadily increase our investment in product and partnerships. In the partnership area, the part we are investing is on enabling the partner as well as boosting our delivery service capability, the professional service capability, which is the point that Eric mentioned where we are still increasing our investment. So those are areas we are anticipating more increased demand in and we believe that preparing for that will give us early advantage in a couple of quarters. As we ramp up and train our new team members and we start getting more demand, we can deliver that nicely. On the cloud side, we don’t see much of a concern. Our public cloud architecture that we built on, can scale very nicely and easy to do so, that is less of a worry for us.

Richard Baldry

Analyst · Roth Capital.

And it may be too early, I guess to much feedback on this. But have you noticed any change in body language from partners who, again, seeing this type of disruption, possibly understanding what their clients are going to shift their demand going forward? Any change in their discussions or what type of resources they want to allocate in partnership with you? Or do you feel they’re probably bogged in their own issues right now and too soon to get to that?

Ashu Roy

Management

No. In fact, like I mentioned in response to another question, we have seen and it seems like a lot of collaboration over the last 30 days. We have seen a steady increase in interest through partners from prospects. And so I think that there is definitely a change in mindset and, like you said, body language and it is reflecting in those early deal registrations, which we build, that’s the way we track these early opportunities through partners. We’ve seen a distinct jump in that in the last 30 days. Now, if we see that sustained over the next couple of months, then, clearly, then that should be a good pattern to capitalize on.

Operator

Operator

I now show no further questions and turn back the call to Ashu and Eric. Thank you.

Eric Smit

Management

Well, thanks, everybody, again for listening on the call. And hopefully I’ll get an opportunity to interact with some of you at some of the virtual events scheduled for later in the month. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.