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electroCore, Inc. (ECOR)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 13, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the electroCore Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Dan Goldberger. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

Thank you all for participating in today's electroCore Earnings Call. My name is Dan Goldberger. I'm the Chief Executive Officer of electroCore, and I'm also a member of the Board of Directors. Joining me today is Joshua Lev, our Chief Financial Officer. Joshua was promoted to the CFO position effective October 4, 2024. He has been with us for almost five years and brings a track record of profession integrity and success. Earlier today, electroCore published results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2024. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that management will make statements during the call that include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Any statements contained in this call that are not statements of historical facts should be deemed to be forward-looking statements. All forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, any guidance, outlook or future financial expectations or operational activities and performances, are based upon the company's current estimates and various assumptions. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to materially differ from those anticipated or implied by these forward-looking statements. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements. For a list of the risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business, please see the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. electroCore disclaims any intention or obligation except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events or otherwise. This conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of the live broadcast today, November 13, 2024.…

Joshua Lev

Analyst

Thank you, Dan. Net sales for the three months ended September 30 2024 were $6.6 million, an increase of 45% as compared to $4.5 million during the three months ended September 30, 2023. The increase of $2 million is due to an increase in net sales across our prescription gammaCore medical devices sold in the United States and abroad and revenue from sales of our non-prescription general wellness Truvaga brand. Gross profit increased by $1.6 million for the three months ended September 30th, 2024 compared to the three months ended September 30th, 2023. Gross margin was stable at 84% for the three months ended September 30th, 2024 as compared to 85% for the three months ended September 30th, 2023. Total operating expenses in the third quarter of 2024 were approximately $8.1 million as compared to $8 million in the third quarter of 2023. Research and development expense in the third quarter of 2024 was $521,000 as compared to $1.2 million in the third quarter of 2023. This decrease was primarily due to a significant reduction in investments associated with our Truvaga Plus product. We expect R&D expense to remain steady for the foreseeable future. Selling, general and administrative expenses of $7.6 million for the three months ended September 30th, 2024 increased by $895,000 or 13% as compared to $6.7 million for the comparable period in 2023. This increase was primarily due to our greater variable selling and marketing costs consistent with our increase in sales and recognition of lease expense associated with the expansion of our facility in Rockaway, New Jersey. General and administrative expenses increased 1% year-over-year. We expect fixed G&A expenses to remain relatively flat and sales and marketing expenses to scale with revenue in the near term. Therefore, we anticipate progress towards positive adjusted EBITDA and GAAP…

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

Thank you, Joshua. I'm very proud of how the team has grown revenue and the leverage we're seeing in the business. Our operating metrics continue to exceed our own internal expectations, and I'm very enthusiastic about the company's long-term prospects across all brands and channels. Demand for our prescription gammaCore therapy in the VA channel continues to grow based on clinical performance and our increased presence in the field. Our FSS contract has been extended to December 14, 2024, and we continue working with our VA contract specialists to secure a new follow-on contract. Our prescription gammaCore sales organization is represented by about 80 to 99 reps in the field managed by our small team of territory business managers and supported by our customer experience team. This hybrid structure has proven to be very scalable as we deploy prescription gammaCore around the country. The Truvaga Plus launch has been favorably received by the market. The brand continues to show tons of potential as a direct-to-consumer general wellness offering. We're selling Truvaga products through our e-commerce site, www.truvaga.com, and we continue exploring expansion of the Truvaga proposition through new product offerings and new channels to increase the lifetime value for each customer. Pipeline of interest from different branches of our active duty military continues to develop for our TAC-STIM products. Although Q2 2024 sales of TAC-STIM were impacted by the timing of the launch of our new handset, sales in Q3, 2024 picked up and we expect to show increased revenue in Q4 2024. TAC-STIM revenue will continue to be hard to predict in the short term as active duty units evaluate and purchase in bulk for pilot deployment. Longer term, we believe that there may be civilian crossover as first responders, elite athletes, transportation workers, traders, and e-gamers become aware…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Now, our first question is from the line of Jeffrey Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann.

Jeffrey Cohen

Analyst

Hi, Dan and Josh. Thanks for taking our questions. And, firstly, congrats on the Men's Health Tech Awards 2025 for Truvaga Plus. Any commentary there and perhaps talks about how that may or may not spill over and expand into the 350 domain? I know the link is specifically on Plus. And then also perhaps talk about M&A or other wellness products that are out there or talk about your M&A? Thanks.

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

Wow, it's a big question, Jeff. So, yes, the Men's Health caught us by surprise, so we're thrilled to see it, and it creates a whole new opportunity for us. We're negotiating with them now for an advertising package, and they have a huge circulation, so it's a tremendous awareness opportunity for our Truvaga brand. We haven't been reporting on it, but the Truvaga Plus that we launched in April has been outselling the Truvaga 350, even though it's at a higher price point. The Truvaga Plus, as you know, is mobile app enabled, and in the future is going to give us an opportunity to enter into the much larger digital health opportunities, so sky's really the limit. We're just really getting started in that whole category. You asked about M&A. We're focused on vagus nerve stimulation. As you think about the bigger picture of digital health and wellness category, you could imagine a lot of different places for us to add to the product line or to perhaps co-market with somebody, but for the foreseeable future, we are absolutely focused on vagus nerve stimulation, and there's nothing really that we can talk about at this time.

Jeffrey Cohen

Analyst

Got it. And just to clarify, the Air Force contract that you spoke about closing after the quarter would be for TAC-STIM?

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

Yes, that was for the TAC-STIM black that we commercialized in July of this year.

Jeffrey Cohen

Analyst

Okay, and then lastly, first, congrats on talking about Amazon for next year, could you tell us, will that be domestic only or do you expect that to roll out into other territories?

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

Yes. It’s, Truvaga is US only product for the time being. Sure. We've been looking at what kind of investment would be required to be certified to ship into the EU or into Asian countries, for example, and we're focusing on getting the cash positive and profitability, so I will probably procrastinate on that international investment until we cross over to being cash positive.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Swayampakula with H.C. Wainwright.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon, Dan and welcome, Josh, to the new role, and I hope you are here for long time.

Joshua Lev

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for the questions. Yes. Thank you, R.K.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

Analyst

So, jumping into the VA revenue to start off, it was good to see the year-over-year growth. And, you're saying, you're still scratching the surface. And you have been in this market for quite a long time. And, what is it, I'm not complaining about the growth. I'm just trying to figure out how -- are there ways or methods to grow that growth from, like, say, only 1%, to at least, like, 3% to 5%, which can still make a huge difference for you folks, I would think. And what could potentially be those methods?

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

A great question, R.K. really, our growth in the channels started to move as we came out of the pandemic. And we were able to get our territory business managers and our 1099 sales reps back into the facilities. And so, if you just look back, you can see how it accelerated as the pandemic faded and access, traditional access to hospital facilities and clinics opened up. So, for the foreseeable future, it's scaled. Because the vast majority of our field salesforce is straight commission, we can aggressively add feet on the street and get penetration within our existing customers, and especially having additional 1099 assets give us the opportunity to open up the new hospitals that are not yet customers. So it's not glamorous, but it's old-fashioned finding the right people, getting them trained up and getting them deployed and successful. Beyond that, as you know, we're working towards a PTSD label. All of the pivotal trial data in PTSD came out of the VA hospital system. It's an adjacent call point in behavioral health in the VA hospitals and so as we move through ‘25 into ‘26 that the total addressable market within the VA grows substantially as well. So lots of reasons to believe that we can maintain or even accelerate the penetration and the associated revenue growth rate.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

Analyst

Thank you. And then talking about the revenue growth rate. So there is, one is volume, the other is price. So in terms of the FSS contracts that you were talking about which are due to end soon and, I would think that with the benefit that they've been getting, you'll get to extend those contracts. So while you start negotiating the next set of contracts, can price be a play in there or that is normally set by them and you don't have much of a flexibility in price growth?

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

Yes, so the price is a contract element. About a third of our VA business now is going through a distribution partner level and the price through the distributor to the hospitals is actually higher than if they purchase directly from us. Our FSS contract has been extended now I think three times. While we've been going through these extensions, we've moved into a higher revenue category that's, we're a victim of our own success. And so the contract had to go through additional review cycles. We are, candidly, we're holding the price constant. We've been advised that we have an opportunity to increase the price, but we don't see any reason to do that. So we expect that ultimately the revised contract will be at the same price that we have today.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

Analyst

Okay. And then I know you said the name, but I'm going to refer to this as Kaiser Permanente.

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

Yes, I'm not allowed to use that name, but thank you.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

Analyst

Well, I didn't write it down, so that's on me. You said there were 25 prescribers have started writing script on the device. So in general, because Kaiser Permanente is not just in California, they're in DC, there are other areas as well. My question to you is, when you say 25 prescribers, are they from a specific region and as the product gets used more, we should expect that to spread through the entire network of Kaiser Permanente. And also, when you say 25 prescribers, are these the folks that have been kind of given sample vouchers to check it out, or are they the folks that are really wanted to write this after, a conversation with, I guess, through your distributor. Sorry for the long question.

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

Well, yes, excellent question. So as I understand it, the managed care system is organized around Southern California, Northern California, the Pacific Northwest, so Washington, Oregon, or a region. I'm not sure where Hawaii fits, but Kaiser has a good footprint in Hawaii. Colorado is a separate region, and Georgia, I'm not sure what they're doing with Geisinger, which they acquired and how that's organized just yet. gammaCore is on formulary in the Southern California and in the Northern California regions explicitly. That's where most of our prescribers are in California at this point. We do have, I believe, three prescribers out of the Washington, Oregon region, and so there's still a lot of work to be done. Kaiser forbids samples, so when we talk about prescribers, those are revenue prescribers.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

Analyst

Okay. That's very good. Very good to hear that. And then you probably answered this question, I apologize. In terms of the final and $50,000 order that you received from the military after the close of the quarter, is this for the version two product or is this for the initial version and also, how should we think about, is there a mix between the old product and the new product and beyond the $550, should we expect any additional revenue for the fourth quarter. I'm just trying to get an idea of, is this going to be basically lumpy and you and I can never, figure out this until it happens? Or will it ever get into a cadence at some point?

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

So, specifically around the $500, it was actually specifically $548,000 for what we call tax in black. It's shipped and booked as October 1st because that's the beginning of the financial year for the Air Force and that was their request as much as we would have liked to have pulled it into the third quarter. We have had additional revenue from the tax and product line in the current quarter but much smaller amounts. I've been coached not to use the word lumpy so now I use the word variable for 2025. We have a lot of interest but it feels like for 2025 it's going to be, again, back end loaded in sort of the second half, the third and fourth quarters of 2025. But there are various activities as we roll into 2026 where we are optimistic that we will be getting on onto a more of a predictable master contract that different units can order against and we'll have a little bit more visibility. But I don't see that happening until the 2026, 2027 revenue cycle.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

Analyst

Okay. And then, I mean, I'm sorry for so many questions, but on Truvaga Plus, obviously it looks like the product is being adopted really well in the market. Are there any additional levers that you can use to grow this, higher and also at a steady pace? Or is this just going to be dependent on various, advertisements/ social media or other modes of spreading the message on the wellness side of the therapy?

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

So a great question. We think we understand our own e-commerce platform and lever is around search and social media spend. As you've seen with social media, getting some creative content to go viral is much more art, and so there's always that possibility that one of our influencers will hit a nerve if you let me use that concept and go viral and drive accelerated revenue and better metrics. The affiliate sales and getting onto the Perks at Work platform, for example, is a whole new channel for us. Getting onto Amazon next year is a whole new channel. Now, it's a more expensive channel, and so while the gross margin stays healthy, the contribution margin, Amazon takes their vig, so we have to keep an eye on revenue growth versus contribution margin from different channels. I think we're a long way from being able to hire a celebrity spokesperson and take out a Super Bowl ad, but there's a lot in between what the big companies do and what we can do with guerrilla marketing tactics and see if we can get some of that creative content to go big.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

Analyst

One last question, and that's for Josh. At what point, Josh, do you think both you and Dan will be comfortable to start talking about guidance and the ability to talk through the top line? From time to time, we have heard about expense lines and some commentary on expense lines, but I'm just trying to find out at what point we can just start expecting top-line guidance as well.

Joshua Lev

Analyst

Yes, it's a great question, it's something that we consider doing in the past. At the moment, it's not necessarily something that's on the docket for the future, but that being said, we're getting into a new year. And we're going to reevaluate sort of everything when we do that so I would say, it's something that we'll discuss internally. And you'll either see it or you won't.

Operator

Operator

Mr. Goldberger, there are no additional questions at this time. I'll turn the floor to you for any further comments.

Dan Goldberger

Analyst

All right. Thank you, operator. I appreciate everybody joining the call today. As I mentioned, I'm very proud with continued improvement in all of our operating metrics, revenue growth, increasing cash consumption decreasing. Our employees are working tirelessly to deliver these products and therapies. Patients, customers, we really appreciate everybody's support. We're getting into the holiday season, so I also want to wish everybody the very best for Thanksgiving and the holidays after that. Thanks, everybody.

Operator

Operator

This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.