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electroCore, Inc. (ECOR)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Mar 27, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to electroCore Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2018 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host Hans Vitzthum. Thank you. You may begin.

Hans Vitzthum

Analyst

Thank you, Devon, and thank you all for participating in today's call. Joining me are Frank Amato, Chief Executive Officer; J.P. Errico, Chief Science and Strategy Officer; and Glenn Vraniak, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today electroCore released results for the quarter and year ended December 31, 2018. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that management will make statements during this call that include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Any statements contained in this call that are not statements of historical facts should be deemed to be forward-looking statements. All forward-looking statements including, without limitation, our examination of operating trends and our future financial expectations are based upon the company's current estimates and various assumptions. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to differ materially from those anticipated or implied by these forward-looking statements. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements. For a list and description of the risk and uncertainties associated with the company's business, please see the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. electroCore disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events or otherwise. This conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of the live broadcast today, March 27, 2019. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Frank Amato.

Frank Amato

Analyst

Thanks Hans. Hello everyone and thank you for joining us today. I will begin with an update on our gammaCore commercial launch, then pass the call over to J.P. Errico, our Chief Science and Strategy Officer, for an update on our research and development initiatives and finally, Glenn Vraniak, our Chief Financial Officer to discuss our fourth quarter and full year financials. Then we will open up the call for your questions. We've made significant progress since our initial public offering in June 2018, building a commercial infrastructure to drive awareness of gammaCore amongst payers, physicians and patients. And today, I'm pleased to say that these efforts have begun to establish a solid foundation for future growth. I'll begin with a few highlights from the fourth quarter and full year. During the fourth quarter of 2018, there were more than 5800 prescriptions written, an increase of 30% over the third quarter. Momentum continued building into the fourth quarter with a favorable ramp. However, these results have yet to reflect the positive effect reimbursement will have for gammaCore, which largely started in this year. Reimbursement that includes individuals managed by CVS Caremark, Highmark, as well as the Federal Supply Schedule and more specifically the Veterans Administration and Department of Defense. Our reported fourth quarter 2018 GAAP revenue was $368,000. We also dispensed approximately $1.7 million worth of gammaCore prescriptions pursuant to ongoing promotional programs. These programs are designed for patients who do not yet have reimbursement, otherwise known as demand revenue. As such the potential demand product sales value of gammaCore prescriptions dispensed during the fourth quarter of 2018 was approximately $2.1 million. Our ongoing sales efforts to physicians continue to produce positive results. Through the fourth quarter of 2018, more than 1,800 unique physicians had written prescriptions for gammaCore. A…

J.P. Errico

Analyst

Thanks Frank. As we've shared before, medical researchers the world over are busy studying vagus nerve stimulation for a variety of elements. This interest is the result of the ever growing body of scientific research demonstrating the potent effects of VNS, neurotransmitters, inflammatory mediators, metabolic signaling proteins and even on clotting factors. Translating this potential into the clinic and into commercial success ultimately requires payer reimbursement approval. And payers demand evidence based clinical presentations supported by peer reviewed publications. Fortunately, published clinical data is the cornerstone of our payer outreach efforts and in furtherance of this, I'd like to highlight one paper we recently announced that was published in the highly regarded Journal of the Headache and Pain, which is a retrospective study of chronic and episodic cluster patients who were using gammaCore for at least three to six months. Data in this paper showed a decrease in the number of cluster headache attacks per week from 26.6 attacks down to 9.5 for more than 64%. This analysis provides further confirmation of the data from our PREVA study, our multi centered randomized control trial, which showed a reduction in attack frequency of nearly 50% within a mere two weeks from the initiation of therapy and showed continued improvement out to eight weeks. Furthermore, in the most recent publication, the average duration of cluster headaches that did occur decreased by more than a third or 22.5 minutes. On the clinical front, we are working hard to follow up our third label claim, which we received this past year for the prevention of cluster headache. With the clinical data to getting clearance for the potential label claim for the prevention of migraines. To this end, we are in ongoing discussions with FDA around an application that we plan to submit to support…

Glenn Vraniak

Analyst

Thank you, J.P. Let's talk about the financials now. For the quarter ended December 31, 2018, electroCore reported net sales of $368,000. This is an increase of a $134,000 or nearly 60% from the fourth quarter of 2017 and an increase of $217,000 from the third quarter of 2018, reflecting overall an increase of sales of gammaCore Sapphire. As Frank noted earlier, the majority of gammaCore prescriptions during the quarter were dispensed under promotional programs. As a result, we're proud to report that we've delivered an additional $1.7 million of product sales value of gammaCore therapy to patients through our promotional programs. This includes vouchers or free therapy and co-pay assistance. Through our co-pay assistance program, we assist patients who have obtained commercial coverage with up to $100 of their co-pay at the time that gammaCore dispensed. We continue to believe these programs are accomplishing our objectives of providing patient therapy at no charge, demonstrating the benefits of gammaCore therapy to physicians who write prescriptions and promoting U.S. commercial payer coverage and coverage discussions as a result of patient and physician demand. The total operating expenses for the fourth quarter of 2018 were $15.9 million, which is an increase of $8.4 million compared to the same period in 2017, an increase of $2.3 million from the third quarter of 2018. This increase in operating expense was driven primarily by costs related to the expansion of the company's sales and marketing functions. Operating losses for the fourth quarter of 2018 were $15.7 million as compared to an operating loss of $7.5 million in the fourth quarter of 2017 and $13.6 million in the third quarter of 2018. Now, looking at the full year. Fourth full year, we generated net sales of $992,953 representing a 22% increase as compared to $811,457 for…

Frank Amato

Analyst

Thanks Glenn. We recently announced that Glenn will be leaving electroCore to pursue another opportunity. Glenn has been instrumental in the successful launch of gammaCore, our initial public offering and the ongoing build out of our commercial infrastructure. We are thankful for his contributions and wish him the best and very well in his future endeavors. We're pleased with our performance during the fourth quarter as we successfully rolled out the next generation non-invasive vagus nerve stimulation platform, the gammaCore Sapphire increased our sales force sequentially grown the number of prescribing physicians by nearly 20%, gammaCore prescriptions by over 30%, and refills by over 300%. We continue to have constructive discussions with large pharmacy benefit managers and managed care organizations. As I mentioned at the top of the call, as we entered 2019 with significant momentum across both our commercialization and research and development initiatives, we look forward to providing future updates on our progress. And with that operator, please open the line up for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI.

Vijay Kumar

Analyst

Maybe Frank I'll start the first one, the big topic of this is reimbursement. I think you mentioned a unique ID code was given by First Data Bank. Just in terms of the procedural next steps right, is this net now that you have the code? Can you just walk us through the next steps in terms of when one of the big PBMs, will sign in particularly express ESI, I think that's been a focus for investors.

Frank Amato

Analyst

Obviously, there have been a number of PBMs that we've been in conversations with, namely Express Scripts, OptumRx, Involve Rx and others to name a few. We've been in discussions with ESI in the past few weeks here, ensuring that when they reach over to their compendium First Databank, that they can get back the gammaCore code, once the gammaCore code comes back, they can then get into a contract discussion with us, starts out with the term sheet and then moves toward a contract that they bring up to their back committee. So we think that, you know, over weeks, to the coming couple months here into the second quarter that it's likely that we'll be able to pull through one or more of those PBM opportunities. With some of the other PBMs, they don't necessarily have to work with First Databank, I'm not sure who their compendia are, both for OptumRx and Envolve, it's just a matter of now working with their particular compendia to ensure that our code and that compendia have access to it. The NCPDP unanimous recommendation to have our code available across the United States should make it available to each and every compendia out there.

Vijay Kumar

Analyst

And maybe one on the financial side, you know, obviously some really nice step up sequential growth here in script volumes, refill rates, and number of unique prescribers. But I look at the cash burn, I think Glenn mentioned the cash burn will continue at the current rate of $4 million. I guess implicitly in that guidance of cash burn of $4 million, I guess what you're saying is the mix of prescriptions that'll be reimbursed, that that mix is going to improve, right? Because we're looking at sequential step up in prescriptions, number of patients via prescribers. All of that stepping, ramping up throughout 2019. But the cash burn is going to be constant at current levels. So, implicit in that $4 million number of the cash burn, are we assuming anything on ESI and some of the big PBMs coming in reimbursement and that maybe shifts the net revenue versus the gross revenue, maybe close the gap?

Frank Amato

Analyst

Yes, I think you've hit the nail on the head. When Glenn references a $4 million a month cash burn, that's an average burn for the year we expect. We've had that burn up until this point for the most part, that is outflows what Glenn is reporting on. So that's what our expenses are going to be. With respect to revenue that comes in to offset some of that burn, we do expect that to be sequential and accelerated through the year, as I mentioned on the call earlier. So, when we have some of this reimbursement that will come through for CVS Caremark, Highmark, also the federal supply schedule and any new PBMs and/or commercial insurance plans that we're expecting this year, additional Blue Cross Blue Shield plans to be exact, that will offset to a great degree some of that burden. I just want to add one other comment in here, and that is, although the burn will be on average monthly $4 million, we'll have months where we'll pay bonuses to the sales force and to folks in headquarters, and that'll pop up here and there on a monthly basis. But on average, we expect a $4 million outflow on expense or cash burn for the Company.

Glenn Vraniak

Analyst

One other thing I would add is that we would plan to increase the sales force expense as additional coverage comes online to make sure that we continue to expand each of the territories into a larger prescribing base. So, I think that's kind of an offsetting component as well as you'll see as we go through the year.

Frank Amato

Analyst

Yeah. And we've discussed that we'll add additional sales force, as I mentioned in the call, as we get additional reimbursed life in the U.S market. So, it'll be an investment strategy that will align to where we have opportunities to drive revenue.

Glenn Vraniak

Analyst

And Vijay, I would just say one more thing, which is when we use the term burn, that's not net of revenue. We're talking only cash outflows, as Frank mentioned. So you have to keep in mind that revenue input is going to offset that.

Vijay Kumar

Analyst

That was my next question because I was just trying to look at the 48 versus the cash on hand, that's helpful. Maybe if you look at the cues, it looks like the gross revenues of two, maybe 15%, 20% of that was net realized revenues. What do you think that realized versus gross, that mix is going to look like post ESI and some of the big PBMs, I mean, if you had to take a guess end of twelve months, would that mix be net to gross 50, a mix of 50 or I'm just trying to figure out what the net cash outflow would be because obviously that 4 a month that's the gross. And any comments I think would be helpful.

Glenn Vraniak

Analyst

Yes, I would say that we would expect, of course, some more covered lives to increase the rebates and therefore increase that gross to net reduction from your gross sales to your net sales and therefore drop less to the gross profit overall. But as refills increase, there's an offsetting factor there for your gross profit line as well as we deliver refill cards at a very low cost. So there's a number of factors playing into that equation and that question, Vijay.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Charles Duncan of Cantor. Please proceed with your question.

Charles Duncan

Analyst · your question.

I really appreciate all the, call it, granular information, prescriptions, growth, physicians writing them and then refills. And so appreciate that. I wanted to ask you about, physicians writing scripts. You said that you're up about 20%, 1500 to 1800 sequentially in a quarter, but you have, I think, 6400 or so targeted docs. And I guess I'm wondering, do you have specific goals for your sales force to continue to grow the number of physicians prescribing gammaCore or is it more going back to those initial prescribers and saying: "Where within your practice could you prescribe gammaCore more?" So, for example, I guess same-store sales versus broadening the prescriber base.

Frank Amato

Analyst · your question.

Sure, we do have reach in frequency goals for our sales force with a – are expected to reach a number of physicians on a daily, weekly and monthly basis. I'd say that as we get out into the marketplace and find the early adopters, which we probably have about 500 of those that prescribe our product on a pre-regular basis quarter-over-quarter, those individuals in some cases have several 100 patients on therapy today and have become kind of our regional advocates that are willing to also write letters to the commercial insurance carriers and show up at the clinical presentations that we give these commercial insurance carriers with their medical directors and chief medical officers and become real advocates for the brand and for the Company. In addition to that, we have folks who have indicated to us that as we get more regional coverage, like, for example, with the Highmark approval in Pennsylvania, Delaware and West Virginia, as we get additional regional coverage in other states that these physicians will come on and start prescribing at a much higher rate. Otherwise, the insurance companies require them to fill out prior authorizations, which are pretty lengthy documents in some cases. And also letters of medical necessity and send in a fair amount of paperwork for the patients they're prescribing the product to. So, we do see that number of 1800 growing pretty dramatically as we get additional plans coming on. And within those who are currently prescribing, we see them prescribing to much larger portion of their practice. In some cases, these physicians are prescribing our product for patients who they've pretty much run out of options with because those are the patients that they're willing to fill out the paperwork on. So, I think, I'm answering your question, Charles. There's a variety of different factors in the market, but we do have reach in frequency goals for the sales reps in addition to prescription quotas and we're starting to see that really expand out to include additional physicians as we get more coverage.

Charles Duncan

Analyst · your question.

And then with regard to the patients being prescribed gammaCore, you mentioned pretty substantial increase in refill rate, and I was pretty happy to hear that. I think you said about 1/3 of current prescriptions written are for refills. I guess I'm wondering if you could characterize, are you getting more traction with migraines patients or prescriptions for migraines patients or chronic or cluster headache patients, are you penetrating one of the two markets more? Just characterize the kind of patients that are using gammaCore, being prescribed gammaCore.

Glenn Vraniak

Analyst · your question.

Yeah, the majority of our prescriptions are being written for migraine right now. When I say written for migraine, the size of the migraine market is a 100 fold over the cluster headache market in the United States. So we did expect to have a good portion of those scripts coming in there. With cluster headache, you have, about 90% of the market is episodic. So patients go into about 4 to 12 weeks to go on our therapy for that period of time and then will remit and no longer require any type of therapy for 6 to 12 months or longer in some cases. So, we do see some cluster headache patients coming on and are getting anecdotal reports back from physicians on the success they're having. In fact, J.P., referenced a study that we just had published. It was a retrospective analysis looking at patients in the U.S. market and over in Europe who have been on our therapy for cluster headache, and the fact that those results were even better than what we saw in our clinical trials. So we are seeing patients on cluster, but we do feel that migraine will be the largest driver for the adoption of our therapy and the largest driver for the number of prescriptions that we'll realize both new prescriptions and total prescriptions as refills grow.

Charles Duncan

Analyst · your question.

And I'm just curious and I had one question for J.P., but just says a follow-up to that question, over the course of the second-half of last year in terms of migraines therapy, a lot of, call it, new drugs came to market, those being the monoclonal antibodies to treat migraines. And I'm wondering if you've heard any anecdotal or actual scene data out of, for patients being prescribed gammaCore on top of the antibodies or the migraine?

Glenn Vraniak

Analyst · your question.

Sure. In 2018, especially when we launched the product fully across the U.S. market after the IPO, so in July last year, physicians who were early adopters, which is about 20% of those 6400 that we referenced earlier, they indicated to us that they would be prescribing both the monoclonal antibodies, the CGRP antibodies along with gammaCore, because the CGRPs are have an indication for prevention. And if a patient has 10 headaches a month, those CGRPs will cover somewhere between two to four of their headaches. They're still left with six to eight headaches to manage through the remainder of the month, where a gammaCore would be a perfect option. So, we're seeing quite a bit of adjunctive prescribing going on in that regard. We're hopeful to be able to advance our migraine prevention indication with the FDA through the end of this year or perhaps into early next year, which would then put us as a direct competitor with some of the CGRPs. But for right now based on our label, we see physicians prescribing them in tandem.

Charles Duncan

Analyst · your question.

And then my follow-up question, sorry for all the questions. But for J.P., relative to label expansion efforts, I'm not sure if I missed it, but on ATOM, did you talk about timing of the adolescents trial, and then do you have any additional information you could help us with regard to PREMIUM II trial in terms of the Baseline Patient data that you're enrolling in that trial? Are you enrolling patients for prevention that generally have a few migraines or ones that would be characterized more frequent episodic migraines?

J.P. Errico

Analyst · your question.

The PREMIUM, I'm going to start in reverse order, the PREMIUM II study is enrolling well. We began enrollment in the middle of the fourth quarter and I believe we're in the early stages of getting all of the sites up and running. I think we have more than half of them enrolling at this point. So we're confident that that study is going to be complete by the late this year, beginning of next year, in terms of adolescent enrollment. And then, of course, being a prevention study, these patients, the last patient has to be in for six months to nine months before we'll have them complete the last visit. So there's still some time on that. But we are we're very confident that this study is designed well and that the study is designed reflecting on the results that we got from the PREMIUM I study and hope that it will augment our dossier when we go out and talk to payers about the value of using our priorities of prevention. In terms of the ATOM study, which is the adolescent treatment of migraine, of course the reasoning behind doing that study is to expand our label from 18 years of age down to 12 years of age. I think that many people have heard me talk about this before, but the peak penitence of migration into the population happens for women and post puberty in the age range of 13 to 15. The clinical study we're running there is designed as an acute therapy, not as a prevention therapy. So we're looking to advance the work that we did in the PRESTO study, which was the basis of our Acute Migraine label, and use that as the basis for expanding the label. Does that answer your question? I want to make certain I have covered everything you asked.

Charles Duncan

Analyst · your question.

Yes, that's helpful. Although I would - I mean, I'm really intrigued with the adolescent use and so I'm wondering on timing. Can you give us a sense of timing of when that data could come from the atoms?

Frank Amato

Analyst · your question.

I would expect that that trial will take the same amount of time you would expect for a pivotal study in the acute treatment of Migraine, which the PRESTO study took us about 15 to 18 months. So I would expect it's going to take that time, probably end of 2020.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Sean Lavin with BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Marie Thibault

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

It's Marie Thibault on for Sean Lavin. Thank you for taking the questions. And Glenn, I also wanted to say, you know, we enjoy working with you, so best of luck in your next role.

Glenn Vraniak

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you very much. And I appreciate that.

Marie Thibault

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Frank, I wanted to touch briefly on your comments about revenue cadence in 2019. You know, I understand it's obviously very hard to kind of project how the year might turn out early in the launch and with reimbursement coming on board. But since you mentioned the cadence versus consensus, I hope to see - I think consensus is pointing to a $10 million range for revenue and total revenue in 2019. So the range you're comfortable with?

Frank Amato

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Marie yes, as far as the cadence goes, I think I'm speaking more when I reference that to how we see the kind of quarters rolling out here as more and more reimbursement comes online we anticipate more revenue to come online, obviously. For example, if you just look over the last 90 days, including the latter part of December and into, you know, right now we have the FSS contract and high marks so that added 26 million lives for us. As we add more, more lives into reimbursement and having folks come online, then we will realize more revenue as the quarters unfold. We don't see the growth being linear. We do, however, see that refills as they grow will drive growth, especially as we have more and more of those plans come online. So, I think the difficult part for us right now to really project, if you will, is when those lives are going to come online and subsequently when we'll have that revenue. Will we see the spike in revenue in the second quarter and the third quarter as consensus expected, or will some of that come on more in the latter part of the third quarter and into the fourth quarter. So, I know you're looking for a guidance number and right now it's kind of chunky. It's hard for us to really land a number that we can confidently project through the end of the year.

Marie Thibault

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Since you mentioned refills wanted to touch on that briefly, I know refill were sort of third of total prescription order. Can you give me that same number, I guess, in terms of how many first prescriptions turned into refill prescriptions or have been turning into refill prescriptions in your lunch?

J.P. Errico

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, Marie, this is J.P. The answer to that question is at the present time, it appears to be around 30% to 35%, but it's growing and it's growing rather significantly. We believe that the reason for that is because as the payers come online, the cost or outlay that the patient has to take on in order to remain on therapy is reduced. And so as a result, we saw 300% increases, as Frank mentioned, quarter-over-quarter from third to fourth quarter in refills and we expect and anticipate that to continue to grow into the first quarter and so, I would caution taking anything that I'm saying right now as what it's going to be going forward, because these numbers continue to grow.

Glenn Vraniak

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

And we continue to increase patient acquisition. So, the top number is growing as well, which, you know, changes how that dynamic works, obviously, from a percentage perspective.

Frank Amato

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

This is Frank, and I've rounded it out by saying that, we also enhance, as we've spoken to you in previous calls and have also commented on our Partners for Care program, which is really allowing the patients to continue using the therapy while they wrestle with their insurance company through the various different denials and appeals that have to go back and forth between the payers. On the PBM side or the pharmacy benefit side, those denials and approvals can take, somewhere, in the 60 to 75 day range. On the medical benefits side, you can see it taking, in some cases four to five months. So since the different plans are looking at us on both sides of the coin here being pharmacy benefit and medical benefit, we're going to continue to allow patients to have access to the therapy and as we do that, then there'll be more willing to fight and we think refills will continue to grow.

Marie Thibault

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, that's great to hear, yes, certainly a lot of underlying factors there to consider. Last question for me, thanks again for taking them. The Highmark win last month was nice to see and since it's a regional payer for the most part, I'd love to hear just anecdotally how that first month was looking, given that, providers in those regions are probably seeing a high proportion of their patients being covered gammaCore.

Frank Amato

Analyst · BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, it occurred for us, I think, on the 18th of February. So there are patients who in those three states are currently on therapy that are coming back in to see their physicians to get their refills. And then physicians are identifying patients to bring them in to start to prescribe the product. We have a couple of doctors in those areas, specifically in Pittsburgh, namely one of them in Pittsburgh that has 250 patients on the therapy right now. So folks are, waiting for their therapy to run out for the month. When we cover them in our Partners for Care program and they are beginning to get refills. I don't really have a revenue number or a number to speak to right now, but there are multiple hundreds of patients that are on the therapy in those states right now who would be candidates for getting gammaCore paid for through Highmark. The medical policy change indicates that the patient has to - failed answers before, so non store anti inflammatory and to also at least to Triptan's. So physicians are going to have to ensure that they meet the requirements of the medical policy on that side. And then they have to also ensure that the patient has had some type of positive benefit using the therapy in order for the refill to get paid. So that's the other half to fill out paperwork to get the patient on the therapy to start with, and then they'll have to fill out paperwork for the first month indicating that the patient did get benefit. Beyond that, then the patient will get reimbursed. As the refills get filled by the pharmacy as they go forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Dave Turkaly with JMP Securities. Please proceed with the question.

Dave Turkaly

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please proceed with the question.

First given you guys kind of [indiscernible] drug device continuum. You mentioned the sales reps from the ad carriers, where you think you're most successful in targeting folks, where they're coming from just any update there and you're looking to add where you're hiring from as 2019, progresses and then just a quick one on Genius RA study. Any details about the timeline there would be appreciated.

Frank Amato

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please proceed with the question.

So, Dave, I'll cover the sales reps and then maybe we'll turn it over to J.P. since he's been working closely with the team here in clinical, on the Genius RA study. So what we've done from the start here is we've targeted pharmaceutical sales representatives with about 10 years experience, predominantly working in the headache field if we can find them. There have been very few headache companies over the past five years with assets that have been branded in the marketplace. So unless you are sourcing from the likes of Allergan with Botox, it was hard to find reps who had recent headache experience. So then we moved to those who had neurology experience and were selling products in the epilepsy and/or fulfillment disorder space. We'll continue to do that. These folks have access into the neurology practices. They understand how to operate within the neurology offices and also in assisting them with any building coding questions they may have or getting to the - appropriate resources with our specialty pharmacy. So that's how we'll continue to kind of align to and source our sales representatives. With that said, I'll turn it over to J.P. and let him competent Genius RA.

J.P. Errico

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please proceed with the question.

So the study in RA is designed as an open label study. It will enroll 40 patients. These patients will be gathered from largely the Florida area, we have the lead investigator is based in Florida. He already has experience using vagus nerve stimulation for the treatment of RA and has prescribed our devices, as he's allowed to do, for a number of his patients and has gained some anecdotal positive results from that. He is also aware of the work that was presented using our device out of - Denmark in which very positive results on patients who had failed other therapies. So he's very interested in the data and he is drawing from a number of his colleagues in the Florida area who have helped him in previous studies. So we are expecting that that enrollment will begin imminently and that he should be able to gain significant traction based on the prior work that he's done with the same sites feeding him patients.

Operator

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. And I would like to turn the call back over to Frank Amato, for closing remarks.

Frank Amato

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Operator. Thanks, everyone, for joining our call this afternoon. We look forward to providing our next quarterly update in May. So have a great day. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may now disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day.