Dycom Industries, Inc. (DY) Q3 2015 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Dycom Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. And I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, President and CEO, Mr. Steven Nielsen. Please go ahead, sir.

Thank you, Keely. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to thank you for attending this conference call to review our third quarter of fiscal 2015 results. During the call, we will be referring to a slide presentation, which can be found on our website, www.dycomind.com, under the heading Events. Relevant slides will be identified by number throughout our presentation. Going to Slide 2. Today, we have on the call, Tim Estes, our Chief Operating Officer; Drew DeFerrari, our Chief Financial Officer; and Rick Vilsoet, our General Counsel. Now, I will turn the call over to Rick Vilsoet.

Thank you, Steve. Referring to Slide 3. Except for historical information, the statements made by company management during this call may be forward-looking and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements, including those related to the company's outlook, are based on management's current expectations, estimates and projections and involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which may cause the company's actual results in future periods to differ materially from forecasted results. Those risks and uncertainties are more fully described in the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended July 26, 2014, and other periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements. Steve?

Thanks, Rick. Now moving to Slide 4 and a review of our third quarter results. As you review our results, please note that we have presented adjusted EBITDA and certain revenue amounts excluding revenues from businesses acquired during the fourth quarter of fiscal 2014 and the first quarter of fiscal 2015 and revenues from stimulus-funded projects, all of which are non-GAAP financial measures in our release and comments. See Slides 13 through 16 for a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to GAAP measures. Revenue increased significantly year-over-year to $492.4 million, an increase of 15.5%. This quarter was impacted by a broad increase in demand from our key customers, particularly those deploying 1 gigabit wireline networks and those where we are growing core market share. These factors offset a decline in work for rural customers receiving stimulus funding. Gross margins increased 334 basis points as a percentage of revenue, reflecting a better mix of work types and broadly improved operating performance, while general and administrative expenses improved year-over-year, decreasing 11 basis points. All of these factors produced adjusted EBITDA of $63 million or 12.8% of revenue, and net income of $0.58 per share, compared to $0.23 in the year-ago quarter. On April 24, we expanded our credit facility capacity to $600 million and extended its term to April 2020, further fortifying our already robust financial strength. Liquidity was solid in the quarter, with cash and availability under our new credit facility totaling $401.9 million. And finally, during the quarter, we repurchased 275,000 shares of our common stock at an average price of $49.24 per share or $13.5 million. Now we will update our views of the significant and unprecedented industry end market driver which concretely impacted our business during the third quarter and continues to form an increasingly firm basis for our outlook. Going to Slide 5. Today, a number of major industry participants are deploying significant wireline networks across broad sections of the country. These newly deployed networks are generally designed to provision bandwidth, enabling 1 gigabit speeds to individual consumers. Recently, one industry participant articulated plans to deploy speeds beyond 1 gigabit. These industry developments are producing opportunities across a broad array of our existing customers, which in aggregate are unprecedented for the industry. Currently, we are providing engineering and design in aerial and underground construction services for 1 gigabit deployments. These services are being provided across the country in dozens of metropolitan areas to a number of customers. Revenues and opportunities driven by this new industry standard accelerated during the third quarter of 2015. Customer spending modulations have diminished and customers are publicly outlining multiyear initiatives. As network strategies have firmed, timing uncertainty has receded. We remain confident that our competitively unparalleled scale and market share, as well as our robust financial strength, position us well to deliver valuable services to our customers for those opportunities which have the highest likelihood of benefiting our shareholders. Now moving to Slide 6. During the quarter, we experienced effects of an overall industry environment which showed clear signs of acceleration. Organic revenue grew 13.4%, while revenue excluding services provided for stimulus-funded projects, grew organically at a rate of 18.6%. Our top 5 customers combined produced 62.2% of revenue, increasing 23.2% organically, while all other customers increased 0.5% organically. Of note, each one of our top 5 customers grew organically, the first time this has occurred since the second quarter of fiscal 2008. AT&T was our largest customer at 21.3% of total revenue or $104.7 million. AT&T grew 14.1% organically year-over-year. Growth in wireline services more than offset an expected year-over-year decline in wireless. Revenue from CenturyLink was $68.5 million or 13.9% of revenue. CenturyLink grew 18.9% organically. Revenue from Comcast was $65.2 million or 13.3% of revenue. Comcast was our third largest customer and grew organically 25.8%. Verizon was Dycom's fourth largest customer for the quarter at 7.5% of revenue or $36.8 million. Verizon grew organically 9%. Revenue from a customer who has requested that we not disclose their identity was $31 million or 6.3% of revenue. It was our fifth largest customer. Going to Slide 7. Backlog at the end of the third quarter was $2.912 billion versus $2.986 billion at the end of the second quarter of 2015, a decrease of approximately $74 million. Of this backlog, approximately $1.618 billion is expected to be completed in the next 12 months. Both backlog calculations reflect solid performance as we continue to book new work and renew existing work. We anticipate substantial future opportunities across a broad array of our customers. For Comcast, we secured or renewed construction of maintenance agreements in California and Colorado. With Charter, we renewed construction and maintenance agreements for Illinois, Missouri, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina and Texas. From CenturyLink, we secured construction services agreements for Minnesota and Washington. With Time Warner Cable, we renewed construction and maintenance service agreements in California, Arizona and Texas. And finally, we secured construction service agreements from Windstream for New Mexico and Pennsylvania, and engineering service agreements in Missouri and Arkansas. Headcount increased during the quarter to 10,852. Now, I will turn the call over to Drew for his financial review and outlook.

Thanks, Steve. And good morning, everyone. Going to Slide 8. Contract revenues for Q3 of 2015 were $492.4 million and organic growth was at 13.4%, reflecting growth from several key customers, offset by declines on stimulus projects. Businesses acquired in the first quarter of 2015 and the fourth quarter of 2014 contributed, in aggregate, $8.9 million of revenue in the current period. Gross margins increased 334 basis points, with a better mix of work types, lower fuel prices and improved productivity with more favorable weather compared to Q3 '14. G&A, as a percent of revenue, is slightly down year-over-year and reflects our scale of operations. Adjusted EBITDA increased to 12.8% of revenue or $63 million, compared to 9.3% or $39.6 million in the year-ago period. The strength of the performance this quarter resulted in earnings per share of $0.58, compared to $0.23 in Q3 '14. With the increase in pretax income during the year and projected for our fourth quarter, our effective tax rate came in at 37.2% for Q3, which was favorable to our expectations. The difference in the effective rate contributed approximately $0.02 of EPS in the quarter compared to our previous expectations. We expect our Q4 effective tax rate to be 38.5%. Turning to Slide 9. Our cash flows and balance sheet contribute -- continue to reflect the strength of our business, and our liquidity is over $400 million, with cash on hand and availability on our credit agreement. At the end of Q3, we entered into an amended 5-year, $600 million credit agreement, which includes a term loan of $150 million and revolving facility of $450 million. We ended the quarter with the outstanding balance on the term loan and approximately $16.3 million drawn on the revolving facility. Operating cash flows of $40.3 million reflect solid earnings and changes in working capital. During Q3, our combined DSOs of AR and cost in excess of billings net declined by 4 days to 92 days as collections improved. During the quarter, we collected approximately $7.1 million of past due balances from a customer on a stimulus project. This project has restarted and is progressing towards completion. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we received an additional $5.8 million from this customer. The remaining past due balance is now $7.2 million, which we expect to collect over the next couple of quarters. Capital expenditures, net of disposals, were $35.3 million and gross CapEx was approximately $38.1 million. We expect our net CapEx for fiscal 2015 to come in near $90 million, reflecting robust opportunities in the business. During the quarter, we spent $13.5 million to repurchase 275,000 shares of our common stock at an average price of $49.24 per share. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we completed an acquisition of a small contractor in the upper Midwest for a purchase price of approximately $6.8 million. Now going to our outlook on Slide 10. As we look ahead to Q4, we anticipate revenues which range from $550 million to $570 million. We expect firm and strengthening end market opportunities, increased demand by several large customers, including 1 gigabit deployments and customers where we are growing core market share, and lower revenue on stimulus projects as that program nears completion. Gross margin percentage is expected to expand and reflects a solid mix of customer growth opportunities. Total G&A costs are expected to range from 8.3% to 8.5% of revenue, reflecting our scale and higher performance-based compensation, including share-based award expense. Depreciation and amortization, on a combined basis, is expected to range from $24.9 million to $25.4 million. Interest expense is expected at approximately $6.8 million. Other income from asset sales is expected to range from $1.3 million to $1.7 million. Taxes are expected to be 38.5% for Q4 '15. The applicable factors are expected to generate an adjusted EBITDA margin percentage which expands from the Q4 '14 result, and earnings which are currently expected to range from $0.74 to $0.82 per diluted share. We expect approximately 35 million diluted shares during Q4 '15, with shares gradually increasing in subsequent quarters. Now going to Slide 11. Looking ahead to Q1 of fiscal 2016, our expectations currently reflect: Revenue growth of high single to low double-digits percent compared to Q1 '15, including revenues of recently acquired companies. We expect margins to increase over the Q1 '15 result. G&A expense is expected to decrease slightly as a percentage of revenue year-over-year and include noncash stock-based compensation of approximately $4.5 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin percentage is currently expected to increase from Q1 '15. Other factors influencing results include depreciation and amortization on a combined basis, which is expected to range from $25.3 million to $25.8 million. Interest expense of approximately $6.8 million, and other income from asset sales which ranges from $1.4 million to $1.8 million. Finally, as a result of our 52 -- 53-week calendar, I'd like to remind you that our fiscal 2016 will include 53 weeks of operations. Q1, Q2 and Q3 will all have 13 weeks of operations, and our fiscal Q4 of 2016 will have 14 weeks of operations. Now, I will turn the call back to Steve.

Thanks, Drew. Moving to Slide 12. Within an improving economy, we experienced the effects of a solid industry environment and capitalized on our significant strengths. First and foremost, we maintained strong customer relationships throughout our markets. We continue to win and extend contracts at attractive pricing. Secondly, the strength of those relationships and the extensive market presence they have created has allowed us to be at the forefront of evolving industry opportunities. The end market drivers of these opportunities remain firm and are strengthening. Telephone companies are deploying fiber-to-the-home and fiber-to-the-node technologies to enable video offerings and 1 gigabit high-speed connections. These deployments are accelerating and impacting our business. Some of those telephone companies previously deploying fiber-to-the-node architectures are transitioning to fiber-to-the-home deployments, while others are beginning to provision video over their fiber-to-the-node architectures. Cable operators are continuing to deploy fiber to small and medium businesses and with increasing urgency. Some are doing so in anticipation of the customer sales process. Overall, cable capital expenditures and new build opportunities are expanding. Dramatically increased speeds to consumers are being planned. New projects resulting from the Connect America Fund Phase 1 are deploying fiber deeper into rural networks. More are expected as new multiyear opportunities emerge through the balance of this calendar year. And customers are consolidating supply chains, creating opportunities for market share growth. Within this context, we believe we are uniquely positioned, managed and capitalized to meaningfully experience an improving industry environment to the benefit of our shareholders. We remain encouraged that our major customers possess significant financial strength and remain committed to multiyear capital spending initiatives, which in most cases, are meaningfully accelerating and expanding in scope. We remain confident in our strategies, the prospects for our company, the capabilities of our dedicated employees and the experience of our management team as we grow our business and capitalization. Now Keely, we will open the call for questions.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from the line of Tahira Afzal from KeyBanc Capital Markets.

This is Sean on for Tahira today. So I guess, my first question is just given that Dycom has clearly set a new pace of top line growth in the last 2 quarters and opportunities are continuing to accelerate and strengthen into the beginning of 2016, how should we be thinking about a sustainable organic growth rate going forward? Is that high single to low double-digit outlook for 1Q '16 kind of a good way to think about longer-term growth as well?

So Sean, I think what we've always said in this business is that it is a people business. We're -- if you take our organic growth this quarter and as you look ahead to the fourth quarter and annualize it, we're creating several hundred million dollar businesses each year. And I think for us to make sure that we keep it under control, we're going to take a prudent view to growth. On the same hand, there are some pretty large opportunities that we see in prospect. And as long as we're providing good service to customers, we will step up when they ask us to. So hard to say, because as I said in my comments, we're somewhat in an unprecedented phase in the industry right now.

Okay, fair enough, fair enough. And secondly, I couldn't help but notice, but growth really picked up notably for your unnamed customer. So to the extent you can comment, we'd love to get some color on what drove that jump following a more nuanced quarter in the second quarter.

Yes, after last quarter's call, we were at an investor conference on a webcast, and we had highlighted that we had worked through some administrative issues with that particular customer around this year's program. And we expected to pick up, and it did. And I think it's that simple.

Next, we'll go to the line of Adam Thalhimer with BB&T Capital Markets.

I wanted to ask first about your all other customers that grew 0.5% organically in the quarter. What's going on there? Are you taking -- are you concentrating capacity on the top 5 customers? Or is there a catalyst such as the Connect America Fund that might turn those other customers around?

I think, Adam, if you look at the balance of the customers, remember, we've had a year-over-year decline in stimulus and all of that decline or -- yes, all of that decline would have been below the top 5 customers. So I think it's stimulus-related. To the extent, as we had talked about last quarter, we saw a little bit of softness on wireless. And a good portion of that business was below the top 5 customers. So I don't see anything more to read into that. Clearly, as Connect America Fund decisions are made, there are certainly a number of customers that -- where there's some real opportunity, although actually, there's some real opportunity also in our top 5 customers. So really, Connect America Fund is an opportunity across the board.

All right. And then, on the Connect America Fund, the carriers have until August to decide whether or not to take the money. What are your thoughts on if they do? And then, how the timing plays out in terms of when you would actually see some construction go -- out in the field?

So the -- our customers, a number of our customers have been speaking at conferences. This is a good last 10 days to get a view as to what they're thinking about. And I think in at least in 2 notable instances, senior management was very confident about taking most, if not all, of the Connect America Fund that would be offered to them. I think they will work through the issue, as they've indicated, over the summer. And I think this fall, there should be some opportunities around engineering. Of course, we are doing Connect America Phase 1 now and construction should be peaking with that over the summer into the fall. So I think we've got a good trajectory on that business right now.

Great. And then lastly, just on the credit facility increase. Is there anything to read into from that?

We were able to low -- lower our borrowing costs and increase capacity in an environment where the grow -- the business is growing pretty significantly. And we thought that was the right thing to do to support that growth and be there for our customers.

We'll go next to the line of Christian Schwab with Craig-Hallum Capital.

Great. Steve, some of the -- I just had a question on the lack of clarity that you gave the last few quarters. So on the 1 gigabit full deployments, we categorize that as dozens of metropolitan areas. The last few quarters, we've talked about that going from 11 to 17. Do you have an actual number you could share with us there?

We're not, we actually have a number. We know it's more than 2 dozen, right? And Christian, what we're trying to indicate there is we do live in a competitive world, so we're not -- we provided disclosure to help investors get comfortable with the emergence of the theme, but it's here. We have senior executives of our customers going on CNBC and talking about 1 gigabit. We have comments from another customer on their earnings call about deployments this year, next year and beyond. And so from our perspective, it's really becoming, for lack of a better term, business as usual. And so for us, given the number of customers we're now working with, the number of customers that are in prospect and talking about it publicly over an extended period of time, we just decided to alter the disclosure in a way that helps investors, but doesn't overly help our competition.

Great. Is the number of customers that you're dealing with expanded beyond last quarter?

Yes, that's correct.

Okay, perfect. As the scale and scope of the business expands driven by -- what we talked about as unprecedented wireline network spending, what is the -- how should we be thinking about gross margins and the trajectory of that as business continues to ramp? Can you walk us through some of the puts and takes so we can see what, ultimately, that number could be 2 or 3 years from now?

So we haven't spoken in the past to gross margins specifically, but more kind of our thoughts on EBITDA. And we have been able to get to mid-teens EBITDA before. It's an environment where we have to have good returns on capital because we're spending lots of money to support our customers. And so we want to make sure that we get not only bigger, but better. At the same hand -- on the same hand, we're not going to just push all the levers to push all the gross margin ahead, because we want to be fair to our customers. They're good customers. We've had decades-long relationships. And so it's always a balancing act. Good returns to attract capital, reward our shareholders, and at the same time, recognize that we're -- we need to keep the interest of our customers in balance.

We'll go next to the line of Noelle Dilts of Stifel.

My first question, I wanted to start on gross margin, but a little bit more detail on the quarter. So you talked about the mix of work being a driver of the strong improvement, fuel and productivity. Can you help us get a sense of how that improvement broke out between those categories, particularly the benefit you saw from fuel?

Yes. Drew, go ahead.

Yes, Noelle, so fuel was a little over $2.5 million just from a price perspective year-over-year of a benefit.

Okay. And then can you speak to just mix and productivity to some extent?

Yes, I -- and Noelle, I think what we've talked about before is we had winter weather in February and March, and we were somewhat less impacted because we continue to see robust opportunities for performing aerial construction, which is less weather affected. We also had good growth inside of our existing footprint. And it's always more productive to add resources in existing footprint where you have supervisors and safety folks and your yard facilities and warehousing all in place. And so I really think that in addition to the fuel, this -- the ability, given the broad scale of our footprint at this point, that's what's really driving productivity and the mix.

Okay. And so my next question is somewhat related to that. You had 13.4% organic growth. Your headcount was up 5.1% year-over-year. It's been running reactively flat. I mean, how much more productivity do you think you can extract out of the current -- your current workforce before you really have to start adding significantly?

So people always work more effectively when load goes up, overtime goes up, and if it's managed well, we have good productivity. I think the other thing to keep in mind is as the business grows, we will use subcontractors because we want to be able to add to that -- add to our capability quickly and actually be able to utilize some of their capital assets. So that is, in fact, is in part affecting the headcount also, Noelle. So that we are adding subcontracted resources in addition to our own increases in headcount and improvements in productivity.

Okay. And then, just quickly, can you disclose how much your wireless business was down in the quarter? I know you said it was expected, but just to give us a sense of what you're seeing there.

Sure. It was about 7% of total revenue, Noelle. And so it was down, call it, $14 million, $15 million year-over-year. A year ago, it was a pretty strong period. And so not a big surprise given the general commentary in the industry.

We'll go next to the line of Jennifer Fritzsche with Wells Fargo.

A few questions, very good quarter. Steve, if you can tell me, on CAF 1, you have a line of sight, obviously, on work there. Can you tell me when those discussions started happening for that work? Like, was it after they got the money? I'm just trying to kind of get a bogey as to when we could begin to see that for CAF 2. And then I don't know if you disclosed this, but AT&T has talked about rolling out 17 GigaPower markets this year. And can you tell us how much exposure you have in those 17 markets? And then just a bigger picture question, last one. I think there's a real kind of people trying to connect the dots here, because we've seen the equipment players get really hit because of pullbacks from some of your largest customers. Yet your numbers don't jive with that at all. I just wanted to pick your brain as to kind of any color you see in connecting those dots would be helpful.

So Jennifer, I don't specifically remember when the CAF 1 money was accepted by our customers. But I would say that we certainly had discussions with them, particularly those that had received stimulus dollars. And so it somewhat rolled from one activity to the other. And clearly, while we may have done some preparatory work prior to their formal acceptance, we did not start work on anything until they accepted that money. But there may have been planning activities that took place. With respect to the -- broadly, the GigaPower initiative with AT&T, we have a broad exposure to that, both from engineering, which is throughout kind of the Sun Belt, and then on construction in the Southeast, although we're doing other levels of activity around the country. So I think we have a pretty broad exposure to that initiative. And then with respect to the equipment manufacturers, I think perhaps the market has been somewhat focused in the wrong direction. Both of the -- the largest supplier in North America, to my understanding, of fiber cable, primarily to the telephone industry, but also to cable, reported 18% year-over-year growth. Another significant supplier to both industries was in excess of 10%. So given that our activities are primarily around creating the path that the fiber takes to the home, I think our growth is just in line with the cables that we're either putting on poles or in the ground. And perhaps some of the other equipment manufacturers are more subscriber-related around ONPs and other type devices, which will follow as our customers begin installing new customers, new subscribers.

[Operator Instructions] We'll go to the line of Simon Leopold of Raymond James.

This is Victor in for Simon. I just wanted to start with a housekeeping question. Could you round out the top 10 customer list number?

Victor, Time Warner Cable was at #6 at 4.7% of revenue. Windstream was #7 at 4.6%. Charter was #8 at 3%. Corning was #9 at 2.8%. And FairPoint Communications was #10 at 1.6%. And then the split: Telco was at 62.5%; cable was at 27.7%; facility-locating customers at 6.2%; and then electrical and other was at 3.6%.

Great. I guess, I just wanted to follow up off of the previous question. I guess, I just wanted to see if you could give us a little more color around the strength relative to the rest of the carrier-exposed vendors in the industry. I think even with the understanding that historically your business isn't directly synchronized with carrier CapEx and spending, they still share, generally, a rough relationship. So this is the first, one of the first times that I can remember that there's been such a notable dichotomy between how weak other vendors are kind of describing the industry right now, and then how strong your results have been, I guess. So I guess, I'm just looking for more colors around what you think is unique about this particular period that just slowing down of other spending isn't enough to offset the gigabit deployments that you guys are seeing, I guess [ph].

Well, I think, Victor, if we kind of take it in pieces. So we're seeing a general weakness in wireless. We're actually starting to see some plans for next year. And we're actually encouraged that '16 will -- appears at this point, not -- and just in our footprint, so maybe not more broadly, but at least for us, we'll be up in '16 versus '15. But certainly, down this year. And then, with respect to the other OEMs, if we have fiber optic cable manufacturers who are reporting growth rates that are in excess of our organic growth rates, they're either shipping it into warehouses or somebody's got to install it. So I mean, to me, it's entirely consistent across the best indicators. And then clearly, we serve big customers. And so our spend, as a percent of their capital budgets, is a small percentage. And to the extent that we just happen to be blessed or fortunate to be providing services that are of a high level of importance to the customer, then we're going to be in good place. I mean, we have our second largest customer, who is -- been very aggressive making additional announcements about their GPON initiative. We have our largest customer whose CEO went on TV and said that this fiber gigabit phenomena would last past his retirement, and he's a young man. So there's a lot of work going on.

Okay. I think I get that. So I mean, should we just assume that the correlation going forward, I mean, between what carriers disclose that they're intending on spending and then how you guys perform, I mean, that correlation is just -- it's different now? I guess, is that...

I mean, Victor, I'm just struggling. I'll take one more swing at it, then we can move on. I mean, if we have a customer that says they're going to do 2 million homes passed to fiber and the budget's down, and the 2 million is up from last year, I don't know why you would be surprised that we would be up also. If we have another customer that says they're going to do 700,000 homes passed to fiber this year, up from essentially none last year, I don't know why you're surprised that our sales will be up with that customer.

Yes, that makes sense.

I guess, their own comments are uncorrelated with their own capital budgets, but I can't sort that out because we're too busy just getting the work done.

We'll go next to the line of Alan Mitrani with Sylvan Lake Asset Management.

Just a few questions. I see stimulus cost you about $22 million year-over-year in terms of the drag versus the -- what you reported, the organic growth ex stimulus. If I remember correctly, next quarter is really the inflection point, we drop down meaningfully from there? Is that correct?

The fourth quarter, Alan, is $18 million. The first quarter is $14 million. And then it drops into single-digit million. So yes, that's correct.

Okay. And you expect, and I realize the CAF, they have a certain time period to accept it, but I know you have a decent estimation of where some of your customers lie in the conversations. Once that starts coming in, that's calendar 2016, mostly?

The way the plan -- and we just know what the order says. So they have until the end of August to indicate what they're interested in accepting. And shortly thereafter, they will actually be funded for '15. So in some way, there will be a cash flow in. The planning process and some very preliminary engineering has to be done to help them determine what they're going to accept and what states. And so my expectation is that we get into the fall, that there will be engineering opportunities and, perhaps some very minor construction activities at the tail end of calendar Q4, with a ramp in '16. If you look at the CAF order from the FCC, they have a pretty aggressive commitment that by the end of '17, calendar '17, 40% of the program must be constructed. So there will be a pretty significant ramp through '16 to get to that objective.

Great, that's very helpful. So using that as a springboard, can you just maybe talk about your views on capital structure and leverage? I saw that you bought back stock this quarter and you extended out your maturities, giving you some certainty. You're now at roughly 1.8x trailing net debt-to-EBITDA, and given where your EBITDA looks like it's going, as well as the certainty that CAF is giving you from an underlying revenue perspective, it seems like your business can carry a little more leverage, given you're going to delever fairly quickly, but I'm not sure there's a reason to. Can you remind us where you feel comfortable with leverage? Could you add a half a turn of leverage, minimal amounts, in the next 12 to 18 months, while still funding all your CapEx and growth opportunities?

What we've always said, Alan, is, particularly with respect to organic growth, we're comfortable with some increased leverage, because if you think about the credit quality of our customers, for us to help them by supply working capital as we grow organically, we're very comfortable doing that. We're also comfortable with buying fixed assets because we don't generally have highly specialized equipment. So to the extent that as we grow, for some reason in an unexpected way, we had extra equipment, we'd just deploy it in the rest of the business or sell it. So I think we're very comfortable taking leverage up to the extent that we have substantial growth opportunities organically that require that. We certainly continue to look at some small acquisitions, and we're happy to do that. I think if you look at kind of our trajectory post the Quanta transaction, we haven't completely delevered back to where we started, but by the end of the calendar year, we'd certainly be close, maybe ahead. And so we understand that, that creates capacity, either to step up to substantial opportunities that require working capital or to the extent that we see value in the stock versus acquisition, we can certainly do that, too. So we're not range bound in terms of the target debt ratio or leverage ratio. It depends on where the money is going.

Great, I appreciate that. One -- well, 2 more quick things, one for Drew. You said you bought a company post the quarter. What's the expected revenues from that business? You said you paid $6.8 million?

I mean, it's insignificant, $7 million, $8 million. It was a nice tuck in to an existing business.

Okay. And then, there -- the Comcast deal fell apart this past quarter, but it seems like guys aren't waiting long to look at Time Warner. I saw Time Warner's spending was down this quarter. Can you give us what your take is on some of the consolidation that looks like it's going on? Even today, there's an announcement of SouthernLINC switching owners. But just give us your take on how that could play out for you. Do you expect any sort of pause in spending as in the past has happened? Or is the competitive situation too hard for these guys to stop?

I think with respect to Time Warner, they actually indicated, on a full year basis, their CapEx would be up in '15 versus '14. So there was some seasonality to their spend, but we don't expect any significant impact. I think with respect to broader M&A, as I -- we're disappointed that the transaction was not able to happen. But clearly, Comcast has articulated just over the last week or 2 some very significant objectives around network deployments and we're growing with them rapidly. So I think on a net-net basis, the M&A that may occur outside Comcast shouldn't have any significant impact on the overall company.

And we have a follow-up from the line of Noelle Dilts of Stifel.

I just wanted to somewhat circle back to the first question of the Q&A. But wanted to dig into your first quarter '16 preliminary guidance a bit. You're talking about revenue growth in the high single to low double-digits. I guess, at that point, I'm thinking stimulus -- the stimulus headwind will be rolling off a bit. So it seems like, obviously, a step down from this quarter. Maybe could you just walk us through some of the puts and takes that are going into that guidance?

Noelle, as we look at the second quarter out, we just want to make sure that we take a appropriately conservative view that CAF money will be coming out. There is some M&A in the broader industry. And we just don't want to get ahead of ourselves. We've got a lot of good things going on in the business, and we just don't want to get ahead of that.

Okay. And then second question goes back to your comments on weather in the quarter. It sounds like you did have some weather headwinds in January and February. Obviously, this move toward aerial is reducing the extent to which you're impacted by that. But would you say there was somewhat of a weather headwind in the quarter? Had it not been for the challenging weather that many of your competitors have talked about, do you think you would have seen a better...

January was in our second quarter, so there was some impact in February and actually, into the first week of March. I think the pattern that we saw is consistent with what we saw at other periods where we had 2 things: So peak -- lots of demand, not peak demand, because obviously, demand's growing. But where we have lots of demand, aggressive customer timelines, somehow we seem to get through weather better in that demand environment than when things are somewhat slower. And then, there's mix towards a work type that is -- that we're better able to prosecute in periods of poor weather. So if you actually look back to where aid -- aerial construction for the cable operators was a bigger percentage of our business in the '90s, we tended to have less seasonality in our Q2 and Q3 than we've had over the last decade.

We have a follow-up from the line of Jennifer Fritzsche of Wells Fargo.

Great. I just wanted to follow up on the cable question, just bigger picture question. Today, the cable sector is about, I think, Drew, you said 27% of your total revenue. As you look out, and there clearly has been changes with the merger we thought would happen now not happening, do you see that exposure growing? Or do you still see telecom representing 2/3 of this business?

We'd certainly be happy if it grew. There had been periods of time in the mid to late '90s where it was about half of the business. All of the cable operators were at an investor conference last week. All talked about thinking about gigabit or gigabits as a product delivery. They talked about plans going into '16 and beyond. And I think when you're growing organically, Jennifer, it's really a flow share question. So we'd be happy if it grew. We'd be happy if the rest of our customers grew. And if they're all growing, it's really just a comparative analysis. It's not really a substitutionary effect of one for another.

We have a follow-up from the line of Adam Thalhimer with BB&T Capital Markets.

Steve, you mentioned that you got an early look at some of the wireless budgets for 2016. Just curious whether you've had an early look at any of the wireline budgets?

So we did not indicate that we had seen -- had an early look at wireless budgets. What we'd said is in our footprint, as we think about planning and some of the kind of the objectives that have been -- that we've reviewed, that we have a good feel. But we don't know what budgets are next year, that's not for us to say. We just feel good in the footprint we serve, that '16 looks like it will be a better year. On the wireline side, I think what we commented on in the presentation was that we have customers articulating multiple year objectives. Clearly, there is one merger that is near at hand, and there have been some objectives that have been part of that regulatory review process that I think can give you some insight into next year and years beyond.

And we have a follow-up from the line of Alan Mitrani with Sylvan Lake Asset Management.

One last one for you, Steve, on strategic lookouts. I understand you got a lot of CapEx coming. I understand you got a lot of organic growth. Do you see any ancillary businesses, anything related that might look interesting from an M&A standpoint in terms of -- I'm assuming a lot of bankers are showing you a lot of deals at this point of time, and maybe some of the guys who are owned by private equity are looking to come public or looking to sell out. Can you just talk a bit about the M&A environment? And where you might take this in the next couple of years?

There are certainly M&A opportunities to look at. I think we're primarily focused on organic growth given the magnitude of the opportunities that we see. I think we're positioned in as good a space as we could imagine over the next several years. And so we really are just focused on doing a good job for the opportunities we have with customers that we have served for a long time.

And at this time, there are no further questions.

Well, we thank everybody for your time and attendance and attention on the call. And we look forward to speaking to you on our fourth quarter call at the end of August. Thank you.

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