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DXC Technology Company (DXC)

Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 8, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Please stand by, we are about to begin. Good day and welcome to the DXC Technology First Quarter 2018 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jonathan Ford, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Jonathan Ford - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased you are joining us for DXC Technology's first quarter fiscal 2018 earnings call and webcast. Our speakers on today's call will be Mike Lawrie, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Paul Saleh, our Chief Financial Officer. The call is being webcast at dxc.com/investorrelations and we've posted some slides to our website, which will accompany our discussion today. Slide 2 explains that the discussion will include comparisons of our results for the first quarter of fiscal 2018 to our pro forma combined company results for the first quarter of fiscal 2017. The pro forma results are based on the historical quarterly statements of operations of each of CSC and the legacy Enterprise Services business of HPE or HPES, giving effect to the merger as if it had been consummated on April 2, 2016. As a consequence of CSC and HPES having different fiscal year-end dates, the pro forma financials represent the combination of CSC on a fiscal year ending March 31 and HPES on a fiscal year ending January 31. On that basis, last year's first quarter results consist of CSC's quarter ending July 1, 2016 and HPES's quarter ending April 30, 2016. Slide 3 informs our participants that DXC Technology's presentation includes certain non-GAAP financial measures and certain further adjustments to these measures, which we believe provide useful information to our investors. In accordance with SEC rules, we have provided a reconciliation of these measures to their respective and most directly comparable GAAP measures. These reconciliations can be found in the tables included in today's earnings release as well as in our supplemental slides. Both documents are available on the Investor Relations section of our website. On slide 4, you'll see that certain comments we make on the call will be forward-looking. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed on the call. A discussion of risks and uncertainties is included in our registration statements on Form S-4 and Form 10. Our quarterly report on Form 10-Q and other SEC filings. I would like to remind our listeners that DXC Technology assumes no obligation to update the information presented on the call, except of course as required by law. And now, I would like to introduce DXC Technology's Chairman, President and CEO, Mike Lawrie. Mike?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Okay, Jonathan. Thank you very much. As is my custom here I've got four or five key points, which I'll cover and then develop in a little more detail, and then turn this over to Paul, and then we'll have time for Q&A. First point is our first quarter non-GAAP EPS was a $1.59. EBIT adjusted for restructuring, integration and amortization of intangibles was $679 million. Adjusted EBIT margin on that basis was 11.5% and we generated $595 million of adjusted free cash flow in the first quarter. Second point. Revenue in the first quarter was $5.913 billion on a GAAP basis, and excluding the impact of purchase price accounting, revenue was down 4.2% year-over-year in constant currency, we had a book-to-bill of 1.1x. Excluding the impact of purchase price accounting, our digital revenue grew 13.4% year-over-year in constant currency and on a similar basis our industry IP and BPS revenue was down 3.2% reflecting the completion of a large phase of our UK NHS contract in July of last year. And in the first quarter, our digital book-to-bill was 1.8x reflecting our customers' accelerating shift to digital and our industry IP and BPS book-to-bill was 0.7 reflecting the timing of contract awards. And fourth point is during the quarter, we completed key merger integration milestones. We're executing our synergy plan and are on track to meet our targets of $1 billion of year-one cost savings, as well as $1.5 billion of run-rate cost savings exiting the year. And then finally for fiscal 2018, we continue to target revenue of $24 billion or $24.5 billion in constant currency, and our target for non-GAAP EPS remains $6.50 to $7 with an adjusted free cash flow target of 100% or more of adjusted net income. Now, let me just go into a…

Paul N. Saleh - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Yeah. Thank you, Mike, and greetings, everyone. Before I review our first quarter results, I'd like to take a moment to clarify the basis of our financial presentation. First, the pro forma results for Q1 of last year conform with the methodology used in our registration statements on Form S-4 and Form 10, and they are presented as if the merger took effect on April 2 of last year. As a consequence of CSC and HPES having different fiscal year ends, the pro forma financials represent the combination of CSC on a fiscal year ending March 31 and HPES on a fiscal year end January 31. And on that basis, last year's first quarter results consist of CSC's quarter ending July 1, and HPES's quarter ending April 30, 2016. Also prior year pro forma non-GAAP results assume a flat quarterly tax rate of 27.5%. Fiscal 2018 first quarter results reflect revenue adjustments for purchase price accounting, whereas the prior year pro forma does not. Non-GAAP results exclude restructuring, integration and amortization of intangibles consistent with CSC's non-GAAP methods from prior years. And finally, segment results now include Global Business Services, our Global Infrastructure Services and U.S. Public Sector. Now, let me cover some items that are included in our GAAP results this quarter. In the current quarter, we had restructuring costs of $190 million pre-tax or $0.50 per diluted share. These costs represent severance costs related to workforce optimization program and expense associated with facilities and data center rationalization. Also in the quarter, we had $124 million pre-tax or $0.29 per diluted share of integration and transaction costs. Those includes integration planning, and advisory fees associated with the merger and other acquisitions. The first quarter amortization of acquired intangibles was $120 million pre-tax or $0.26 per diluted share. Now excluding…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And we'll now take our first question from Brian Essex with Morgan Stanley. Caller, please check your mute function. Once again, caller please check your mute function.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

We may want to go to the next question.

Operator

Operator

And with no response, we'll now take our next question from Arvind Ramnani with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Arvind Anil Ramnani - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Very impressive results. Can you help us understand the puts and takes that'll enable you all to come in at the upper end of your guidance range?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Well, as we said Arvind, we successfully implemented the synergy plan that we talked about, and we got $140 million of net savings in the quarter. That was a huge contributor. We had a slightly lower tax rate, 23% versus the 27% or 28%. And we had an FX gain with the conversion to local currency. So, that coupled with the fact that we saw a moderation in the revenue decline, particularly in our ITO businesses, I mentioned drove the better EPS performance and also help drive the margin expansion that we talked about.

Arvind Anil Ramnani - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Great. And just a follow-up on that, you had operational control of HPE Services for about five months, and kind of beyond just this quarter, what has been surprising to you either positively or negatively?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

No. I think, there's a lot of positives there, a lot of great people with a lot of great skills in HPES, which has been a tremendous infusion to us. Tremendous install base, I mean, the clients are very loyal clients, and very much are looking for our services, not only our traditional services, but also our new digital services and you saw that in our book-to-bills with our digital business and the growth in our digital business. So, I think that has all been real positive and frankly the other positive is by combining these two companies, we have been able to drive significant cost opportunities and you're seeing that show up in the results. So, it's all about people. It's all about our clients. It's about the scale and that scale allows us to drive the efficiencies and leverage that scale to help our clients on their digital transformation journey. And then we've been – we have a tremendous network of partners. I just mentioned a couple things we've done with Amazon and Microsoft and others. But our partners give us a complete independent approach to our clients and bringing the best solutions to our clients. And I think that is appreciated and is one of the real benefits of the merger.

Arvind Anil Ramnani - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Just one last one, if I could squeeze in. When I look at the IT services space, there are really only two independent companies, you and Accenture that are well over $20 billion in revenue, and when I – if I put on the head of a software company's CEO, I think you guys are a company that really need to partner with, and form some deep relationships, do you feel that's the driver? Are you finding kind of your conversations with the software product companies a lot easier now that you have this kind of scale? Thank you.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

I think the scale, Arvind, does make it more attractive to many of these partners. But I got to tell you that this is in our DNA. This is in our DNA. We want to utilize the enormous R&D investment that these companies make. We leverage that R&D. We integrate that R&D into offerings like our digital workplace offerings or our analytics offerings or our hybrid cloud offerings, you name it. So, this is what we're all about is taking the best capability, the industry has to offer, bringing that together to our partners and then delivering that to our clients in an end-to-end solution. And yes, I think the increased scale, Arvind, makes that a very attractive proposition for not only our partners, but also for our own team as well as our clients. Okay, Arvind, that's...

Arvind Anil Ramnani - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Thank you. Good luck.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Tien-Tsin Huang with JPMorgan.

Tien-Tsin Huang - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Hi. Thanks, good afternoon. Thanks for the update. Just I guess on the book-to-bill that was a pleasant surprise of 1.1, I was curious if that's sustainable, if there was any kind of burst potentially in bookings coming out the gate as a combined co, if there's any callouts beyond the digital health on book-to-bill?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

No, I think, it was sort of business as usual. I think, the most important observation is that we put two pretty big companies together and launched it, and we didn't see the disruption, we didn't see the disruption in our service delivery, which is critical. And we saw the sales engine continue to go and this against the backdrop of changing our coverage model, also changing our sales composition to a compensation to focus much more on in-year revenue. So, these were some big fundamental changes that we made and if we look out over the balance of the year, we continue to see a very good pipeline of very large deals. We see a great set of new logos. So, I think this very detailed hands on operational approach to integration allowed us to continue to operate the machine as we pulled this all together.

Tien-Tsin Huang - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Good. Just quick follow-up, just any change in thinking on the revenue dis-synergies given your comments there, Mike?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

No, I think we're still in the early innings here of this year. So, I wouldn't make any changes to what we talked about at our Investor Day.

Tien-Tsin Huang - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we'll now take our next question from Darrin Peller with Barclays.

Darrin Peller - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays.

Nice job guys. Thanks. When considering the cadence of earnings for the year, per quarter, I'm pretty sure you guys said in the past, there would be a sequential ramp in EPS and actually driven by the synergy timing as well as the year progressed. You started off higher than us on EPS and I think synergies drove the beat. Can you just talk to the timing now, is the $140 million of synergies a sign that you could exit the year, keep running at a year, end up more than $1 billion, maybe even exit higher than the $1.5 billion, what you anticipated. And then just give us some color on the expected earnings cadence for the year? Thanks guys.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Yeah. Listen, I'll let Paul respond to this, I'll give you my perspective. We did have a couple benefits in the quarter, we talked about that. We had an FX gain and we had slightly lower tax rate. So, I think it's important not to get too far out in front here. So it's a very solid quarter, we executed our synergies plan, $140 million is good. So you multiply that out by four and you get a number and there is more synergies that we're going to get incrementally in the second quarter that would be repeated three times and there will be more synergies in the third quarter so on and so forth. So, I think, it's – I think it will be premature to talk about a change to the targets that we've outlined. I think the important point here is we are executing as we said we're going to execute and this was a good first data point against that plan. And in terms of EPS, I think the EPS is going to largely track the way we laid it out at the Investor Day.

Darrin Peller - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays.

Okay.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Paul, anything you want to add to that?

Darrin Peller - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays.

Okay. I mean, Paul, just the timing, if you don't mind.

Paul N. Saleh - DXC Technology Co.

Management

No, I think, it is – so I would expect the second quarter to maybe look pretty much like this one, maybe a little bit less when you exclude the improvement in our synergies in the second quarter, we'll offset some of the benefit we had in the first quarter from the FX. We had $75 million in our results, but net-net, you're going to continue to see every quarter an expansion in margins across all the businesses and you were going to see basically our EPS pick up particularly you'll see the ramp in the third quarter and fourth quarter.

Darrin Peller - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays.

Okay. That's helpful. And just one follow-up on the revenue side now. I mean, the GBS and GIS revenue came in I think better than our expectations. The growth trend seem to be low to mid single digit negative, which is great versus what I think we were expecting for this quarter. The one question is, on the industry IP you called out, I think you said the book to bill was 0.7 and the growth, if remember I correctly, you said was negative, right. You may have mentioned timing, there was a lot of moving parts in the prepared remarks. Can you just give us some color? I mean, that was an area that beyond just digital, which is obviously doing well, I guess, we were wanting to see strength in was again the industry IP part of the business. Can you talk about expectations there?

Paul N. Saleh - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Yeah. The primary driver of the industry IP is our healthcare business and our insurance business. That's where we have a largest software install base and in our healthcare business, we did wrap around a significant completion of the NHS contract, that was the bulk of the decline.

Darrin Peller - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays.

Right. Okay.

Paul N. Saleh - DXC Technology Co.

Management

The reason I called out the book-to-bill, is we saw reasonably good book-to-bill in the quarter which is very important as we move forward. We're seeing a lot of innovation around our IP capital and assets. I mean, for example, we took I think another one or two trusts live in the UK and we are working on some new contracts with NHS to continue the momentum. That big NHS contract at some point in time is going to end, it did end and now we're rebuilding through smaller transactions. Likewise in our insurance business, we got a great portfolio of insurance assets and we're continuing to drive that. Our Xchanging acquisition last year continues to deliver against the expectations that we set forth. So, yeah, I think, we're planning to see that industry IP business grow as we go through the year. So that coupled with our digital portfolio is what we think will drive the growth. Our BPS, particularly our industry BPS is showing good growth, I mean, 9.5%. So, I mean, we signed a lot of these deals last year they're coming on stream now. We took another major insurance company live four weeks ago, that is now enabling some other opportunities in the pipeline. So, I think this is again a good first step, it's a data point, and we're largely tracking with what we outlined at the Investor Day.

Darrin Peller - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays.

Okay. Makes sense, guys. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

And we'll now take our next question from Jim Schneider with Goldman Sachs. James Schneider - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe, if you talked about the $1 billion in year one synergies, I think, at the Investor Day, you talked about workforce and supply chain being about $700 million of that and Paul thanks for sharing the color on the progress in the first quarter. As we think about the cadence for Q2, can you give us any kind of sense about what to expect there? Is it something that we should be expecting kind of to get to the $250 million range? Or any color there will be helpful.

Paul N. Saleh - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Yeah, I think you're pretty close to the number, we'll see certainly is it somewhere in the $75 million, $80 million of additional actions. And many of them coming in again from the permanent combination of procurement and labor savings. But labor saving is not just workforce optimization. We're looking at converting some of our external labor where it makes sense particularly in certain skill set and particularly in certain geography. At the same time we're continuing to use automation as an opportunity to just really drive greater efficiencies in our labor force, and that is not just in high cost market, that's also showing up in our low-cost markets. And the other thing that's a great opportunity for us that we're just really starting to embark on is the pyramid. working just making sure that we've had the first phase of management layer elimination, but we have still to continue to attract younger talent in the right location and continue to develop the talent that we have and give them opportunity to expand their capabilities.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Yeah. I think that's a good answer, Jim. I mean it's not a small deal to remove four layers of management in 90 days. And what we have found, and this goes back to the first question that Arvind asked, is we did find a fair amount of overlap. That was the working thesis behind the merger of the two companies that there were significant synergies there. And I think the key point is we are finding those synergies. We're executing fairly expeditiously against those, while at the same time, while at the same time investing in the future. So we're making a big investment in automation and what we called bionics. So that investment is being made. We're making a big investment in nearshore. So we're taking a look at building a low-cost delivery center in the United States that would support not only our commercial business, but our USPS business. We had a very strong graduate recruiting program this year. So we're bringing in a lot of kids. We're looking at internships and co-op programs and investing in training and re-skilling of our people. So I don't want anybody to think this is just about taking costs out. I mean, we took quite a few people out in the first quarter, but we also hired 6,000 people in the first quarter, 6,000, okay. And we need to do that to continue to refresh the workforce. So there is a lot of activities here, Jim, and you can see there is a lot to execute against, but we feel pretty comfortable that we have got a handle on the plan and we're going to continue execute. James Schneider - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: That's helpful color. And then maybe going to the revenue side for a second, I think, Mike, you outlined, well first of all, at your Analyst Day you talked about the traditional down 4% to 7% long-term, industry and BPS up 7% to 10%, and digital up 25% to 30% over the coming years. You talked about some of the reasons for the industry and BPS coming in a little bit below that with the NHS contract runoff, but can you maybe talk about how you build the trajectory of a digital business, go into that kind of mid-20s growth rate over time? Is that going to be a mix of acquisitions plus the new bookings you mentioned in the prepared remarks, or how should we think about getting to that goal?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

I think it's all the above, Jim. So when we talked about the revenue model, we talked about a dis-synergy and the normal price downs, and frankly we don't see anything that differs from what we talked about Investor Day. And we talked about growing the digital platforms significantly. We look out at our pipelines. We look at the opportunities. We look at the growth in the industry. We think that is certainly within the range that we talked at Investor Day and I explained the industry IP stuff, but we're bullish on that as we look out over the next year or two. Furthermore, I said that half of this growth would come from organic growth and another half of it would come through acquisitions. Well, in the first quarter we made an important acquisition, Tribridge, which gives us now a very strong position in the growing Microsoft Dynamics marketplace. So we'll see that begin to kick in as we go forward. And we continue to make investments around ServiceNow, and that franchise. So it's a combination of all those factors. One quarter you can say, well gee, this was 2% less and this was 3% more. It is the overall trend line which we see in our pipelines, we see in the growth of market, we see through the visibility of our partner pipelines as well as our own pipelines. And the acceptance of some of our offerings. So we get more and more confident when we take an offering, we take that in, we get it installed and then we can scale that. Likewise with our automation play, so we started to automate some of our call centers. We started in the United States and now we know what we can drive, what kind of productivity can we drive. Well, then the next step, is you take that to all the call centers on a global basis. So that's the methodical way we are approaching this, to minimize disruption to our client and to do this in a more of a planned orderly way. James Schneider - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we'll now take our next question from Keith Bachman with BMO.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Hi, Mike and Paul. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to return to the bookings again. They were, as I think a previous caller mentioned, very strong. Just to clarify, Paul, there was no PPA adjustments in the bookings, was there?

Paul N. Saleh - DXC Technology Co.

Management

No.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Okay. And so Mike, as you look out, as you think about not only the book-to-bill, but also the growth rate of bookings, would you anticipate that you can actually grow those bookings on a year-over-year basis throughout the year?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Yeah. That's the objective.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Okay.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

I mean, we've got...

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Because if that happens, at the Analyst Day, you commented that even the following year, there might be some revenue weakness given putting – still putting the two companies together. But if you're growing your bookings year-over-year, wouldn't the conclusion be that perhaps that revenue weaknesses will be less than you thought?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Well, you got to be careful in the bookings, because the bookings include recompetes, okay? And then the recompete is usually booking at a lower rate.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Right.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

So, you have to be very careful about that. Well – this is why we moved our sales force and the compensation of our sales force fundamentally to in-year revenue, because the in-year revenue over time, and I don't have the confidence yet to report that, because we don't have any history on it yet, I want to see how this plays out a couple of quarters. But we are really refocusing our sales force either into incremental revenue associated with the recompletes, and I took you through the example of the large insurance company where we didn't recompete, we signed up the ITO at a lower rate, but had the opportunity to grow our business primarily through the application side.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Right.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

That's what we're doing.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Okay.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

That's how we re-orient the sales force. But I got to tell you it's still a little early. The other thing we're doing is, we're focusing on more and more smaller deals. So we have 421, whatever the number was new logos, 25 of those were $1 million or more. But that suggest that over 400 of them were less than $1 million.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Right.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

So the strategy is to bring in new clients. We have a great set of offerings, get those offerings installed and then begin to grow off of that base. That is a whole different model than just going around looking for big ITO outsourcing deals. And this is very consistent with how our clients are approaching digital transformation. They are not doing big bangs in digital transformation. What our advantage is we can come in and use our install base, our ITO install base and leverage that. In other words, help them free up money that they can reinvest in digital programs. And all we're asking for is for them to invest in our digital platforms as they continue down their digital transformation and then price ain't where you want it. But the good news is, is we're starting to see that actually happen. I talked about what we did three or four of these in the first quarter. Now if we can scale that on a global basis. Then, yeah, then it's time to talk about, gee, the book-to-bills could lead to revenue growth.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Okay.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Okay. Operator, one more call.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Fair enough, and it certainly seems like you are off to a good start. But, Paul, just one last one and I'll cede the floor. Is there any notion, I asked about this at Analyst Day. You provided non-GAAP target hasn't moved $6.50 to $7. Do you feel like you are in a position where you could also give us a GAAP number at some point so we could compare the targets for FY 2018?

Paul N. Saleh - DXC Technology Co.

Management

I think as the year progresses, we may be in a little bit of better position to do that because as you can imagine the PPA is still not complete. We have a quite a bit of work to do you'll see in our filing that we still have to review all of the leases for example, to make sure that they are properly valued. So I think, as things stabilize, I think we'll be able to just provide you with that stuff.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Yeah. And I just want to also just take the time to compliment Paul and the financial team. I got to tell something. This meaning, the results are good and all that stuff. I mean, there is a lot of work that goes into this. I mean, we had multiple financial systems, that had to all be consolidated, purchase price accounting, capital leases, operating leases, this that going through currencies, legal structures. I mean, these guys have worked their tail off to get to a point where we could close the quarter, report it and learn from it, so that we can streamline our operations going forward. But this was no small feat to get this integrated and launched as we did.

Keith Frances Bachman - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO.

Yeah. It sounds like it. Thank you, guys.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we'll now take our last question from Ivan Hollman with Morgan Stanley.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

Hey, Ivan you've got a bad mute button.

Operator

Operator

Caller please, check your mute function. And the caller has removed themselves from the queue, would you like to take one more question?

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Management

No. I think, that's it. I just want to wrap up and just thank everyone for their time and interest in DXC. I also want to thank, Neil. Neil has been with us several years and he will be moving on and welcome Jonathan to the role of Head of IR. So, again, Neil thank you, and Jonathan welcome. And to everyone on the call. Again, thank you for your interest and look forward to catching up with you as we move through the second quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen that concludes today's conference call. We thank you for your participation.