Charles Piluso
Analyst · Maxim Group
Thanks, Matt. Thank you for that question. I will tell you, since we signed the deal with pro forma, which is owned by Renovus, private equity that we had sold. And then we had the shareholder vote in September of 2025. Since that July signing, we started working on looking at M&A transactions. And we looked at conservatively, people from different firms were approaching us to do a reverse merge and say, reverse merge into the company. And then as you look at these companies to see how they would improve shareholder value, we find that there is a pre-revenue biotech, everybody is going to have $1 billion value in a short period of time. So it was kind of disappointing. So when we look at things like reverse merge, if we actually saw something that was a real solid company, and I'd say we looked at over probably 15 people calling us. It really wasn't a strategy of ours to do that. But if something fantastic came up, well, you got to look at it. We just didn't see that. On the other side, you look at some of the valuations and what happens, some of these companies, they go out -- I'll give you a very simple example that they're at $5 million to $6 million in revenue. They have a $500 million valuation, and they raise some money from friends and family. So there's a lot of unrealistic -- no one is going to write a check out for $500 million for them. And so you're seeing a lot of unrealistic acquisitions. Kind of we have a few different paths. So what we're looking at is there could be distressed companies, for example, that have cyber software, and they got caught up with either bad debt at a covenant, but they own IP. They have patents filed. And so it's cybersecurity software, just as an example. So when we see that, and we see the management team is pretty solid on things, but gotten a little trouble. We like things like that because we know that it has legs. We can pick up the software, let's say, we can now put some of our experience behind that, put some capital in and then grow that, maybe building a SOC or just selling the software, whatever. So things like that interest us. We looked at some telecom. With the telecom stuff, although it's just a fantastic business, it's not on the climb. If you take packet 8 and I just round numbers out, they have like $700 million, $800 million in revenue. Their market cap is like $200 million to $300 but it's solid recurring revenue and a lot of folks today, Microsoft Teams [indiscernible] a lot of their [indiscernible]. But when you look at that, Nexxis actually integrates with Teams. So there's integration that goes on with that and you have a phone company that you can call. So we think that, that's good, and that's good for growth, and John and his group does a fantastic job at Nexxis. But we're looking more at a little of sovereign AI. We believe that we're not running to put up a neo cloud basically a year ago, I wanted to, quite frankly. So we're looking at these nichey kind of plays that are not yet ready, but they will be ready. The business that we are in for 25 years, we believe that we might be able to build something that is going to lead to compliance let's say, as an example, with regulated industries that they're not allowed really to use the cloud. It needs to be a private build. So we're looking seriously at companies that actually install sovereign AI and then have some of that talent to be able to take it to another level that I have some plans for, but we're not there on it. So I would say cyber, niche play GPU infrastructure, companies that have assets or IP, but we've looked at many, many, many companies. I mean, I think on our tracker, it says like 124. And we're finding a few. And we have stuff, we have things that are lined up that we're looking at further due diligence on it, but we're not ready to pull the trigger on anyone. But the biggest thing is the management team and if they have a product that can be delivered and there's a requirement for it. so many folks have outrageous valuations that go on. And so I don't know if that helps with the question, but I think it gives you a feel that we've been really, really active with it, and we continue every week. And we have a number of different banks that we're working with that are sending deals in or approaching us.