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Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 4, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing-by and welcome to the Q1 2020 Amdocs Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Now, it's my pleasure to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Matt Smith, Head of Investor Relations.

Matt Smith

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Before we begin, I would like to point out that during this call, we will discuss certain financial information that is not prepared in accordance with GAAP. The company's management uses this financial information in its internal analysis in order to exclude the effect of acquisitions and other significant items that may have a disproportionate effect in a particular period. Accordingly management believes that isolating the effects of such events enables management and investors to consistently analyze the critical components and results of operations of the company's business and to have a meaningful comparison to prior periods. For more information regarding our use of non-GAAP financial measures including reconciliations of these measures we refer you to today's earnings release which will also be furnished with the SEC on Form 6-K. Also, this call includes information that constitutes forward-looking statements. Although we believe the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, we can give no assurance that our expectations will be obtained or that any deviations will not be material. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause future results to differ from those anticipated. These risks include, but are not limited to, the effects of general economic conditions and such other risks as discussed in our earnings release today and at greater length in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including in our annual report on Form 20-F for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2019, filed on December 16, 2019. Amdocs may elect to update these forward-looking statements at some point in the future however the company specifically disclaims any obligation to do so. Participating on the call with me today are Shuky Sheffer, President and Chief Executive Officer of Amdocs Management Limited and Tamar Rapaport-Dagim, Joint Chief Financial and Operating Officer. And with that, I will turn it over to Shuky.

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

Thank you, Matt, and good afternoon to everyone joining us today. I'm pleased to report solid third quarter results which includes record revenue above the guidance after adjusting for comps. In addition, stability was consistent with our open operating trend including investments to support new customer activity. We return more than 100% of normal and free cash flow to share shareholders and we ended Q1 with record 12 months backlog of more than $3.5 billion. Based on book of business reflects a high win rate during the quarter and include the recent signing of major transformation projects such as Vodafone Germany and Northern Spain, both of which are among the largest of the economy in today. We believe the world like these reflects our pedigree for innovation, our position for consistent project delivery and our unique ability to help our customers respond to major trend, so our market leading portfolio of products and services. A fine example is CS20, a fully cloud native and micro services based version what our customer experience with. Leading global services provider like Orange Spain, Korea Telecom Cooperation, Sprint and Vodafone Germany already adopting CS20. By combining these with our go-to-market partners like Microsoft Azure and AWS, we believe Amdocs is a position to bring the critical services needed to accelerate and endlessly secure and less expense to the cloud over the coming years. Now let me proceed as usual with the recap of our quarterly activities by region. Beginning in North America, sequential revenue loss reflects the stabilization of AT&T and ongoing strategic support we are providing to customer in the border region. Notably the quarter includes Amdocs media signing and multi-year content servicing and global delivery deal with the iconic television studio MGM. Regarding the outlook in North America, let me take a…

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Thank you, Shuky. First fiscal quarter revenue of $1.02 billion was at the midpoint of our guidance range of $1.16 billion to $1.55 billion and includes the positive impact on foreign currency fluctuation of approximately 3 million relative to the [fourth fiscal] [ph] quarter of 2019. Revenue performance was slightly above the midpoint of our expectation excluding foreign currency fluctuation. On a year-over-year basis our first quarter revenue grew by 3% consistent with our guidance, Q1 revenue includes the fourth quarter revenue contribution from the previously completed acquisition of TTS Wireless in early August, 2019. Our first fiscal quarter and non-GAAP operating margin was 17.1% slightly above the mid-point of our long-term target range of 16.5% to 17.5% percent and consistent with our guidance that profitability in the first half of the year will be impacted by investments required to support the ramp up of [indiscernible] awards. Below the operating line, non-GAAP net interest and other expense was $400,000 in Q1. For forward-looking purposes we continue to expect non-GAAP net interest and other expense in the range of $3 million quarterly versus foreign currency fluctuation. If you look at non-GAAP EPS was $1.06 in Q1, a penny above the midpoint of our guidance range of $1.02 to $1.08. As anticipated, our non-GAAP effective tax rate of 18.8% in the first fiscal quarter was above the high-end of our annual target range of 13% to 17%. If you look at GAAP EPS $0.85 for the first fiscal quarter above the mid-point of our guidance range of $0.79 to $0.87. Free cash flow was $105 million in Q1. This was comprised of cash flow from operations of approximately $164 million, that's $59 million in net capital expenditures and others. Normalized free cash flow was $121 million in the first fiscal quarter and…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question is from Shaul Eyal with Oppenheimer & Company. Please go ahead.

Shaul Eyal

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon, Shuky, Tamar and Matt. Congrats on a well-executed quarter, improved outlook as well. Shuky, I was counting eight separate press releases of contract twins each one illustrating different capabilities you bring to the market. Anything for micro services with Sprint, managed services with Telecom Austria, you mentioned that of course your collaboration with nice systems at Vodafone Spain. So really showcasing your broad range of solutions, are we currently seeing the fruition of prior investments and end market education which is definitely supporting some sort of an acceleration at least from the mid-point of the prior guidance. We had an accelerating backlog last quarter, this quarter, it further grew sequentially, 4.5% year-over-year. What's happening out there from a macro level which is supporting that great improvement we had seen last quarter and without it, that's what we continue to see this quarter?

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

Hi, Shaul. Good morning. I think what we see is the nice spread and consistent success overall, the different types of offerings that we have from product and services. And some of them are connected to investment that they've done in the last two, three years like building C1, D1 or what we call CS20 or amdocsONE, the new platform that we have for deeper transformation, which is the micro services cloud based platform. And at the same time, you see more demand and it's affecting our industry both activity of integration [indiscernible] with the cloud. So we talked about our activities with AT&T with Microsoft. And you see, the move to the cloud is something that we are in discussion and in some cases in progress with many of our customers. So the move to the cloud advantage as seem to accelerated lately. Obviously, we are in dialog both with Microsoft, AWS and Google and every one of our customers has different preference of following the cloud partner. We see acceleration with the media. So as you mentioned, we have success in Amdocs Media. So I think that overall look is nice, we feel nice spread of the different offerings, so it's not just offerings with that deal in both the across products and services.

Shaul Eyal

Analyst

Got it. Got it. And Tamar, if I may, in terms of the foreign exchange impact, I know Amdocs is exposed to, if I recall correctly, five to six major currencies amongst others, of course. Which is the one or two that have been mostly impacting the business? Is it the dollar, shekel? Is it the Euro, the pound sterling anyone screening a little better or not during the quarter? I think also as we're looking to remainder of the year,

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Actually talking about the revenue because usually our hedging practice is highly focused on protecting bottom-line, and the exposure remains on the top-line. So from revenue perspective, I would say probably the euro and British pound are the ones that, maybe numbers three would be Canadian dollar. So typically those are the three currencies that are most impacting our revenue.

Shaul Eyal

Analyst

Got it. Thank you so much for that. Well done. Thanks.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi.

Thank you. Hi, Shuky. Hi Tamar. Sorry for the noise in the background. I'm at an airport. The question is on cash flow, so you're still signing confirmation of the deals at a pretty good pace. But you also brought up the cash flow estimate and I want to understand sort of the breakout of how much -- reduced the campus CapEx. Was is this element of being maybe further along in terms of extracting any economics from older signed contracts? What is the need to invest in newer ones? And then you mentioned the campus spend is lower, is that a timing thing or is it more permanent? Thanks.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst · Citi.

So Ashwin, thanks to the question. When we're looking on the normalized free cash flow that excludes the investments in the capital. So improvement there by 20 million in our outlook for the year to 480 to 500 is coming from business fundamentals and that's a combination of multiple reasons, nothing specifically. Now with one quarter in our bag already, we felt comfortable to raise that slightly by 20 million for the year. And as you mentioned, rightfully so, yes, we're continuing to stay confirmation. So while doing that, while working that new deal awards, we believe that this is a good outlook and something obviously we feel comfortable with. Relative to the future capital investments that are impacting our reported cash flow. Yes, we updated the number for the year from expectation of [120] [ph] up to 90. It has to do with our progress in different contractual engagements that we are continuing to while the different RFPs having better regularity, projections on specific milestones. So it's not necessarily indicated of the overall investment going down, but more about how we are seeing specifically 2020 fiscal year as it goes forward in terms of the overall level.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi.

Got it. And then, the second question is on pipeline. You have had at this point, at least the last couple of quarters have been, I would say quite strong in terms of signing new deals and growing the backlog. Is that having a possible negative impact? I shouldn't say negative, but is it kind of whittling down your pipeline that you need to now build up or is the pipeline continue to be strong as before? So, are you refilling the pipeline?

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst · Citi.

I think the pipeline is pretty persistent and the same ratio that we are closing deal, I think we are having new opportunity for the pipeline. So I don't think it is -- the fact that we are waiting for months, we're winning in a very nice straight impacting our pipeline.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi.

Got it. Thank you. Good to know. Congratulations.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Tom Roderick with Stifel.

Tom Roderick

Analyst · Stifel.

Hi, Shuky, Tamar, Matt, Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions. So Shuky also the first question here for you. It's a high level question, but I'm gathering, you starting to have more and more conversations about it. Would love to hear your updated thoughts relative to the impact of 5G on the conversations you're having with some of your bigger carriers. Perhaps that is starting to play a role into some of the acceleration you see in your business. But could you just kind of give some thoughts as to the handful of carriers that are looking more seriously at 5G related services and how they're evaluating the Amdocs portfolio as it relates to things like upgraded billings, content support, product catalog? And then I guess the last part of that would be how do you currently evaluate NFV in this world of 5G. How do those things sort of play out in the future? Thanks.

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst · Stifel.

So, regarding 5G and obviously this activity is accelerating, 5G is real, everyone is in the process of deploying 5G, some of them faster, some are less. And I think I mentioned it before, we have three different angles for 5G. The new 5G requires new policy and new rising challenging engines that can leverage all the capabilities. And by the way, first the new protocol, but definitely on the new capabilities of 5G. And so this is the first angle, actually as we speak, we are involved in many RFPs or activities and we have a very big pipeline in this domain. And the second one is the deploying 5G, as we have a very robust capabilities inside the deployment that we should accelerate by the TTS acquisition in North America from 5G deployment in North America is leaving the walls, although we see the productivity also in Europe. So, the capabilities that we have to-date in supporting 5G deployment. And to further, this is for example, once we announce our new catalog, which is the cloud native, the best catalog today that exists in the market -- is the motivational 5G. When you come, it has the abilities of edge computing, low latency, network slicing all its capabilities needs new monetization model, which require new -- ordering system upgrade, obviously different catalog. And so, and this is where we see from the motivation perspective to serve the engine for 5G. When we are talking about the 5G platform, so its build virtual from the ground up from the design. So it's not like [indiscernible]. So I believe the same 5G will also accelerate the activities in the domain. But overall, this is our view of the 5G and this is well like lifting our money, being in from service perspective to support the spending.

Tom Roderick

Analyst · Stifel.

Outstanding. Thank you. Shuky. Tamar, just a couple of quick hitters here for you on the financial side, one thing, looking at the gross margins, they came down a little bit more than they typically would seasonally, but certainly understanding that you take on some of these transformational projects and they come with some uploaded front-end loaded costs, perhaps some more bodies to get those off the ground. And you had a big extension with AT&T. Can you give us a sense as to how we had to think about gross margins moving forward from here in light of your big transformational deals you announced this quarter? And then, second quick financial question. Do you have an update as to how TTS participated or delivered in the quarter for you? Looks like you're still predicting just a 1% tailwind from TTS for the year, but wondering if you have a number for the first quarter. Thank you.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst · Stifel.

Thanks Tom. So I would only say I think that the right way to look at Amdocs is to focus on the operating margin. Then what are the needs, of course there is significant to gross margin versus the other operating expenses. I would advise you to focus mainly on the operating margin line. By having said that and back to your question, as we said, some of the pressure coming on profitability in the first half is related to the fact, we're raising up new deals and awards that are very excited about and some of them require some costs are related to them. For example, the significant wins we have with Vodafone Germany around transforming their business in a meaningful way across multiple lines of business helping them, become a digital organization, consolidating the recent business client [indiscernible]. For us it's a major ramp up activity now in Germany just by way of example. So, there are many of these overseas transformations going on. Some of them require more set up investments than others. So I wouldn't say too much attention to it. I would think that probably the second half you would see the focus is in the margin contributing to the overall improvement in the operating margin.

Tom Roderick

Analyst · Stifel.

Excellent. Then on TTS real quickly, did you have a number there?

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst · Stifel.

Specifically TTS, as we said before, we expect slightly over a quarter contribution to year-over-year growth. So we're happy with the progress, integration is going on well. We are seeing new opportunities. We said when we acquired TTS that this is very complimentary to what we have in terms of radio access network optimization. So TTS is bringing great capabilities around the planning and design of networks and very relevant of course now with 5G being a very, very topical investment cycle. So we are happy with your progress. And as we said, we acquired TTS with roughly $50 million revenue annually. We are seeing pretty much the space starting to ramp up, but I think it will take only a couple of more months to start translating the pipeline that we're accumulating with the synergies with Amdocs into a higher revenue growth rate.

Tom Roderick

Analyst · Stifel.

Outstanding. Thank you both. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question is from Will Power with Baird.

Charlie Ehrlich

Analyst

Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. This is actually Charlie Ehrlich on for Will. Most of my questions has actually been asked, but could you just remind us of, the work that you're doing with AT&T under the new extended collaboration that you guys announced quarter. What kind of work are you doing exactly and is it expected to potentially bring the AT&T revenue stream back to growing in 2020 year-over-year?

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

So, the things that we do, stock of the [indiscernible] is mainly related to the consumer domain related to our activity in AT&T mobility and AT&T entertainment. And it's a combination of managed services activities and the projects and deliver activities and some other new domain like security and data-related, data management activity. This is the border agreement. Regarding to growth and we are very happy with stabilizing the business, which itself is a good achievement for our end. And we are starting to build the pipeline for growth. And one area that we mentioned this quarter is our partnership with Microsoft to deliver activities of moving application of AT&T to the cloud. This is just the start. But between this interim, we developed a nice business. But overall, as I said last quarter, we had, it's like a two phase approach. The first one is to stabilize the business. We've done it last quarter and now to get with AT&T, which I think the relationship is very strong and we are starting to build a new pipeline to accelerate the business.

Charlie Ehrlich

Analyst

That's really helpful. Thanks Shuky. And just a quick follow-up on that. Is 5G also an opportunity at AT&T, have you had any conversations related to that?

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

5G -- there is no Amdocs customer in North America and Europe. That they don't have ongoing discussion about 5G. So, this is not just true for AT&T, this is true for every big customers in North America, Canada and pretty much rest of the world. APAC is moving a little bit slow towards 5G comparing Europe. I think North America is leading Europe than APAC. But we have a dialogue about this. So for example, we mentioned Korea Telecom, which everyone believe is the leading in the world in monetization of 5G, a real 5G, what they call standalone 5G. And so for example, they took our catalog to start to ramp up their services on 5G, but we are having this dialog with every major customer that we have.

Charlie Ehrlich

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much and congrats on the strong results.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Jackson Ader with JPMorgan.

Jackson Ader

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Great. Good evening guys. Thanks for taking my question. There was a lot of activity in Spain. It looked like new customer activity and also signing expansion deals. Can you just remind us maybe how much activity you were doing previously in this particular geography, you've mentioned before how some of these deals require a large upfront kind of working capital investment? And I'm just trying to get a sense for what these deals may require.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Thanks Jackson. So, if you recall we have already about the fact that we are very encouraged with our ability to expand within Europe to more and more countries in which we didn't have historically a presence. We gave the example of the analysts there, Italy, where several years ago, Ireland, Russia, et cetera, et cetera. And the same is now -- another one of these examples where historically we have various selectivity and now we're ramping up and following -- both with the example of Vodafone Spain, which we have presence and Orange Spain of course is a very meaningful win for us with the managed transformation. And yes, there is some set-up cost involved for us to open a new site or some localization and later builds around our product, et cetera. But I don't think it's a major investment just say -- just because it's a new country. I think the reason we talked about some pressure on margins, the accumulation of all of these deals is there been up to some pressure. And again, let's put it in perspective. We talked about, moving from 17.3% to 17.1%. So it's not such huge investment. But we're very happy and Spain should be one of these countries in which for many years to come, we are now putting our foot in the door and building the relationship with them, it is important.

Jackson Ader

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Great. That makes sense. And then just to follow up, and I apologize if you mentioned it, but the contribution from TTS in the quarter?

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst · JPMorgan.

So TTS is roughly bringing double [indiscernible] per quarter. The company requires around $50 million of revenue annually. And that's why we said that specifically 2020, we think it would contribute roughly slightly over points to year-over-year growth. But now we're starting to build up the department together of course, and then consolidating the TTS business with our own mobile network optimization business that we had before. So we are encouraged with the progress of the POI and think have a great opportunity there.

Jackson Ader

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our Q&A session. I would like to turn the call back to Matthew Smith for his final remarks.

Matt Smith

Analyst

Thank you everyone for joining our call this evening for your interest in Amdocs. And I look forward to hearing from you in the coming days. If you do have any additional questions, please give us a call at the Investor Relations group. With that, have a great evening.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.