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Digimarc Corporation (DMRC)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, May 11, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Digimarc Corporation First Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Joel Meyer. Sir, the floor is yours.

Joel Meyer

Analyst

Thank you, Karen. Welcome to our Q1 conference call. Riley McCormack, our CEO; and Charles Beck, our CFO, are with me on the call. On the call today, we will provide a business update and discuss Q1 2023 financial results. This will be followed by a question-and-answer forum. We have posted our prepared remarks in the Investor Relations section of our website and will archive this webcast there. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussion contains forward-looking statements that have risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our press release for more information on the specific risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially. Riley will now provide a business update.

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Thank you, Joe, and hello, everyone. Our goal is to digitize the world's products. To accomplish this, we must be easy to begin doing business with and excellently guiding customers along their Digimarc journey. These simple truths drive everything that we do. We have 2 distinct ways of going to market. On the direct sales side, by building a growing number of our own accretive products upon our world-leading product digitization engine, the Digimarc Illuminate Platform. We are not only ensuring a customer is able to solve the problem that brought them to us today, but also providing them a frictionless path to solve the problems they want to solve tomorrow. Moreover, because our products are accretive, which means that the stand-alone value they provide is increased by the adoption of additional Digimarc products, this frictionless path forward not just solve new problems, it compounds returns for all products existing and new. On the channel sales side, by licensing the Digimarc Illuminate Platform to a growing number of value-added resellers or VARs, we not only gained quickly scalable and high-margin revenue as our VARs go-to-market with our own products and services built upon our world-leading product digitization platform. We also increased the amount of items that are digitized using our technology. This creates an ever-increasing number of upsell and cross-sell opportunities for both us and our VARs. You might recognize these words as they are verbatim from our last earnings call. These words describe where we are going and how we are going to get there and thus are worth repeating, especially as I appreciate that we are a much different company than we were just a short while ago. Last quarter, after providing this preamble, I spent the rest of the call discussing a few of our products. This…

Charles Beck

Analyst

Thank you, Riley, and hello, everyone. Before I dive into our Q1 financial results, I want to provide some more details on the financial impact of the large new revenue contract Riley mentioned. As a reminder, the annual minimum contract value is $6 million per year with a contract term for the 3 products each spanning 5 years. The contract provides additional payments from the customer if they require more capacity on our Digimarc Illuminate Platform. The first-year commercial booking will be $5.1 million in the second quarter as the contract was signed in April. The contract provides the customer the ability to use our platform for each of its 3 products, each with different start dates and payment dates. As a result, $900,000 of the initial $6 million annual fee is payable after the 12-month anniversary of the contract effective date. These fees are noncancelable but given the timing of when the payments are due, they do not meet the definition of first year bookings. It's important to note the remaining $900,000 will not be reported as a first year booking in subsequent quarters due to the way we calculate and report this metric. The fact that we are signing more and more multiyear committed deals has been reducing the value of our reported first year bookings number as the out years of multiyear deals never show up in a reported booking number, whereas a renewal would. This is a wonderful trend for our business that we are heavily pursuing, but it comes at a cost of understanding our underlying growth to all of you. We are evaluating additional metrics to share in the future that will better capture our true underlying growth rate. Now on to our Q1 financial results. There are 4 important trends I want to…

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Thanks, Charles. In thinking how I wanted to end this call, I realized that how I ended the last call also still rings true word for word. This consistency and message is made possible by an incredible team all rowing in the same direction, aligned in their focus on changing the world. I also realize that by dedicating today's prepared remarks to talk about our platform, it is possible, one might question what's going on with our products, similar to it being possible, but leaving the last call the inverse concern could have been true and recent events would have quickly proven unfounded. I am just going to end this call like I began it, reiterating what I said just a few months ago with added emphasis on one key area, I perhaps didn't emphasize enough last time. 2022 saw us set the foundation for the years ahead and we are excited to continue to build upon that foundation in 2023 and beyond. We are seeing momentum across all areas of our business and are hard at work continuing to increase that momentum as we create a market that is unique -- that we are uniquely positioned to lead for years to come. A market that at scale has the opportunity to be as large, if not larger, than the other legs of the digital transformation tool. There are trillions of items produced each year and our goal is to sell multiple Digimarc products into each of them, adding exponentially accretive value as we digitize the world's products. Karen, we will now open up the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our first question from Jeff Van Rhee from Craig-Hallum.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Several, obviously, a lot going on here. Maybe Riley, just to start with the use cases. I mean, you hit them pretty quickly, but go a little deeper. What are you doing in each of these 3 cases? Because there in some ways, similar but in more ways that are not similar. Just talk a little deeper about what exactly you're doing in each of those use cases.

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Yes, sure. And I will to the extent we can, obviously, when it comes to authentication and product authentication. Customers don't really like us talking too much about it. But on the precious metals and the critical building materials, we are -- the customer is using Illuminate to protect the packaging of those items. And then on the DRS, it's similar. It's using Illuminate to digitize items products that would be part of a DRS system.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Is this -- when you say protect packaging, are you talking about serialization, so each individual package is individually identified or just authenticity, generally speaking.

Riley McCormack

Analyst

I really don't want to go into exactly what they're doing. There's a lot of wonderful capabilities in Illuminate that any of our VARs could take advantage of to build their own products. again, so if you're familiar with all of the capabilities in Illuminate, they have access to Illuminate and they're building their own products using those capabilities.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Yes. Yes, that's some of the challenges. It's very diverse in terms of what it does, but I appreciate the privacy requirements. Charles, in terms of the contract itself, forgive me, but maybe you could revisit the rev rec, is this going to be ratable? And then I was unclear. You said a little bit about the bookings and the recognition of the bookings, but I'm curious on the cash collection and the revenue recognition.

Charles Beck

Analyst

Yes. So we're working through the revenue recognition right now. I would suspect that it's going to generally be ratable there are 3 different products, though, that start at different points in time. So you're not just going to be able to take the $6 million and ratably take it from there because each of the projects -- products are phased and that's the same with the cash. And that's why $900,000 of the cash falls outside of the first 12 months of the contract and therefore, doesn't meet our definition of a first year booking...

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Okay. So $900,000 in case. I expect so $5.1 million of the cash comes in year 1?

Charles Beck

Analyst

Correct. And then revenue will ramp as those products come online.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Okay. And the time lines -- I mean, obviously, we've got to build the model. Can you give us some sense of timing on when these 3 are going to layer in? How do we approach that?

Charles Beck

Analyst

Well, the majority of it is being paid in the first year. So it's -- all of the products are starting within 1 year.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Okay. Al right. And...

Charles Beck

Analyst

Or less than 1 year.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Yes. Okay. Got it. And then, obviously, you're not naming the VAR, but these are pretty diverse use cases. I mean, I don't know, just like how many other VARs are there similar to this? This is, I don't know, a unique customer. I'm trying to understand exactly what their practice is.

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Anybody who has -- who creates -- touches the product packaging ecosystem, Jeff, is a potential VAR for us. So there's a ton of VARs out there that we haven't even begun to talk to yet.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Okay. Okay. And just to be clear, the $6 million roughly a year is...

Riley McCormack

Analyst

And that something you might want to follow up. I mean think about – yes, there are trillions and trillions of items produced every year. Each of those are produced with a broad ecosystem, right? So there’s just a ton. I’ll leave it at that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our next question from Robin Knipp from Janney Montgomery.

Robin Knipp

Analyst

Great quarter. Are you able to share with us any more insight as to which country this national deposit return system for recycling is referring to?

Riley McCormack

Analyst

No, we've shared what we can share, unfortunately.

Robin Knipp

Analyst

Okay. So got to get on a plane and travel the world with my Digimarc staff. Okay. Thanks. Once again, great quarter.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Matt Collard from PCB Advisory.

Matt Collard

Analyst

Riley. Charles. Great quarter. Congratulations. Could you -- Riley, could you talk for a little bit with the maturing of these VAR relationships. You started signing them last year and you're continuing to sign them. And obviously, it sounds from the tone of the call, the activity continues to spike. So in these VAR discussions, how is there enthusiasm? Or how is there interest in the Illuminate or the products that Digimarc offers changing? And I guess I'm interested in where I'm going with this is it seems like a lot of these deals have minimum contracts, and then I don't -- you mentioned service addressable markets on top of that. I'm just trying to see how -- what their enthusiasm or how their enthusiasm is growing.

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Yes, it's growing. I mean it's -- if you think about our most likely VAR candidates and some of them are publicly known, right? These are people in the packaging space that what we have currently in Illuminate, what we're building in Illuminate, it's a full-time job, right? And so the ability to have a hyperscaler. I think I used the word hyperscaler during the prepared remarks on purpose. I think people -- most people think of hyperscalers as an AWS as of your -- as CPU and memory hyperscalers. We're a product digitization hyperscaler. For people who don't have the capacity or the interest or for whatever reason, where they don't want to invest in the platform to build their own platform for product digitization but produce packaging, produce products and realize this is a trend. We're a great outsourced partner of theirs. They can license our platform just like anybody can license AWS or Azure or GCP and build their own products and services on top of it. So it's scenario of great excitement, and it's a mutually beneficial win, win, win. Actually for us, for the VAR and for the end customers. I talked a little bit, Matt, in the last call I think actually, you and I discussed it in the Q&A on the last call, but it's pretty exciting.

Matt Collard

Analyst

Great. And I guess to build on that, it seems like the enthusiasm from the VARs is we looked at historically, obviously, we've got this HolyGrail effort kind of looming, if you will, and as shareholders were all looking towards the endgame where there'll be some legislative support for recycling and for extended producer responsibilities and all that. But it doesn't seem like all the VARs are coming to you with much different propositions, much different challenges that need solutions versus thinking ahead towards that end game?

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Yes. So Digimarc Recycle is a product we’ve built on our platform. So again, just taking a quick step back, right? Digimarc Illuminate Platform contains all of our capabilities, right? Everything we can do. We either license their platform to the VARs to build their own product services or that’s what we use internally to build our own – our products and services. So Digimarc Recycle is a product that we build. That is something that we’ll be offering directly to the world’s brands and retailers. So – they’re different and I talked a little bit in the last call, right? Where our VARs license our platform, they’re not reselling our products. We sell our products direct to the world’s brands and retailers.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our next question from [Harvey Mordka].

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Based on our low share price right now in the large moat that we have and the extensive patent library? Is there anybody taking a look at us as far as an acquisition?

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Harvey, I think every time you're on the call, you asked the same question. The answer is no.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Nobody is looking yet. Okay.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take another question from Jeff Van Rhee from Craig-Hallum.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

You commented on the restructuring and the reduced cash burn expectations. Can you put some numbers around that? How should we think about the remainder of the year in terms of cash burn?

Charles Beck

Analyst

Yes, Jeff, I mean, we don't give exact guidance what I can do is kind of broad strokes, right? So we've got growing revenue, we've got margin expansion and we've got about $8 million lower run rate in OpEx. Those are the different...

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Okay. And then Riley, you commented on the VARs, you can sell product or you can sell platform. This is a platform to the VAR to build applications. What's the -- to the extent they have to go build something yet, what does that look like?

Riley McCormack

Analyst

It depends on each relationship, right? It's -- I think Jeff, maybe the best way to picture is just picture what AWS and Azure and GCP offer people, right? It's outsourced, it's a hyperscaler for compute and for memory. And some people build really, really intricate products and services on top of those and some people build very little. So it really depends on the VAR and the products that they want to build.

Jeff Van Rhee

Analyst

Okay. And then -- from a margin standpoint, I think I know the answer, but if you're selling this to the VAR and you're not providing any of the service, then this is just a pure licensing deal. There's no other. So this should be almost pure gross margin?

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Yes. I mean there’s obviously costs. So the way we meter out that access to our platform is – well, we meter out our access, right? So we have cost of goods sold of the platform. But you’re right. The nice thing about the VAR, there’s a lot of wonderful things about the VAR channel as a go-to-market channel. But among them is quick ability to ramp, right? These are VARs are – they’re building something internally and then a lot of times, they have hundreds and hundreds of customers that they’re going to roll it out to, but it’s also extremely high margin.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from [Kevin Hanrahan] from KMH.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Charles, I had a question about the NOL. I know you did your 10-K recently. If you have that number, could you update us? And if you don't have it, could you give me that number offline?

Charles Beck

Analyst

Yes, I don’t have the number memorize so – also you know.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And there appear to be no further questions at this time. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. McCormack for closing remarks.

Riley McCormack

Analyst

Well, thank you, Karen, and thank you, everybody. Hope you have a great rest of your day. Take care.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a great day.