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Dolby Laboratories, Inc. (DLB)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 22, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Dolby Laboratories Conference Call discussing Fiscal Third Quarter Results. During the presentation all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards you will be invited to participate in a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this call is being recorded Wednesday, July 22, 2015. I would now like to turn the conference over to Elena Carr, Director of Corporate Finance and Investor Relations for Dolby Laboratories. Please go ahead, Elena.

Elena Carr

Analyst

Good afternoon. Welcome to the Dolby Laboratories' third quarter 2015 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Kevin Yeaman, Dolby Laboratories' President and CEO; and Lewis Chew, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today’s discussion will include forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made today. A discussion of some of these risks and uncertainties can be found in our earnings press release that we issued today under the section captioned Risk Factors, as well as on our most recent report on Form 10-Q. Dolby assumes no obligation and does not intend to update any forward-looking statements made during this call as a result of any new information or future events. During today’s call, we’ll discuss GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation between the two is available in our earnings press release and in the Dolby Laboratories' Investor Relations data sheet on the Investor Relations section of our website. As for the content of this call, Lewis will begin with a recap of Dolby’s financial results and provide our fiscal 2015 outlook and Kevin will finish with a discussion of the business. So with that introduction behind us, I will now turn the call over to Lewis.

Lewis Chew

Analyst

Thanks, Elena. So good afternoon everyone, and thank you for joining the call. Let’s go over the results for the quarter. In Q3 total company revenue was $231.7 million and within licensing revenue was $204.9 million and products and services revenues were $26.8 million. And here is more detail by major market. Broadcast represented about 46% of total licensing in the third quarter and revenues in this market were down sequentially by about 7% mainly because of seasonality and year-over-year Q3 broadcast licensing grew by about 7%. PC revenues represented about 18% of total licensing in the third quarter. PC licensing was down about 7% sequentially and about 4% year-over-year, both comparisons were impacted by declines in PC market volumes offset partially by back payments in Q3 of this year. Consumer electronics in Q3 comprised about 11% of total licensing. They were down about 40% sequentially due mainly to seasonality along with lower back payments and year-over-year consumer electronics were down about 20%, driven by lower volumes in a variety of products including ‎Blu-ray and DVD players and AVRs. Mobile devices represented about 13% of our licensing revenue in Q3 and they were down about 4% sequentially and up slightly year-over-year. Revenues in other markets were approximately 12% of total licensing in the third quarter. They were seasonally down by about 35% from the second quarter and were down by about 3% from last year’s third quarter. Products and services revenue was $26.8 million in Q3 compared to $28.6 million in Q2 and $17.7 million in Q3 of fiscal 2014. The increased over last year’s Q3 was due primarily to our acquisition of Doremi labs in Q1 of this year. Let’s move on to the rest of the income statement. Total gross margin in the third quarter was 89.3% on…

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

Thank you, Lewis and good afternoon everyone. I will start off today with a few updates on our core business and then move on to how we are progressing on our new initiatives. As Lewis noted, we are seeing some signs of potential softness in consumer markets generally and at the same time our presence in our key markets remains strong. Broadcast grew 7% and mobile remained at 13% of licensing revenue. These are both areas where we continue to see growth opportunities in the future. This quarter, PC was also a little better than we had expected. On the subject of PC, we announced that we have renewed our agreement with Microsoft and we will be included in the Windows 10 operating system. What’s new is that for the first time Dolby Audio will be natively supported in Microsoft’s flagship browser, Microsoft Edge. Now you will be able to enjoy the Dolby experience when listening to content through the browser. This will enable us to reach more users and new types of content with the Dolby experience as the majority of users streaming video today are doing so through the browser. We’re excited to continue to work with Microsoft to bring high quality audio experience across the Windows ecosystem. Let’s turn to our new initiatives starting with Dolby Cinema. This quarter marked the debut of the full Dolby Cinema experience combined Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos. Dolby Cinema has been met with spectacular audience and industry reactions. Jeffery Morison from CNets said that Tomorrow End in Dolby Cinema is the best picture I’ve seen in the theater calling it the most impressive all around movie presentation I’ve ever witnessed. And I can say that reaction is pretty representative of what we’ve heard pretty broadly from consumers and people across…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. [Operator Instructions]. And we will take our first question from Steven Frankel with Dougherty.

Steven Frankel

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Kevin, maybe you could start by updating us on where the U.S. is in considering a next generation audio standard for broadcast?

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

Sure. So a lot of work going on in that area and of course we are very focused on that and on the one hand we’re engaged with the number of potential early adopters at the same time the ATSC I’m sure you are aware is in consideration of the - is considering the next generation codec. We’ve been highly engaged in that process, there was recently an event where we were showing them what we can do. We think we have a fantastic solution that both increases efficiency and also opens up possibilities for new and enhanced audio experiences. And so we feel good about where we are at this stage in the game I still think we’re still think we’re still ways off from any broad implementation, but I think it won’t be long before we potentially see some of the early adopters.

Steven Frankel

Analyst

And so what’s the ATSC deadline? When are they going to decide and when might it be implemented?

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

I was catching up on that this morning and I don’t think we have a firm date from them. So what we know is that they have been highly engaged they are deep into the process. But I wish I had a specific date that would be great. But I really unfortunate I don’t have one.

Steven Frankel

Analyst

Okay. And then for Lewis, there were two puts and takes in the quarter that seemed significant. So could you size the PC back payment because I thought PC was supposed to be down double-digits in the quarter? And then maybe give us a rough idea of the positive impact from that software settlement that reduced expenses.

Lewis Chew

Analyst

Yeah, both were in the neighborhood of few million dollars.

Steven Frankel

Analyst

So this big drop sequentially in R&D should we think about that as the new run rate or was there something else that went on in the quarter that pair that back?

Lewis Chew

Analyst

Yeah, so the bulk of that shift was due to the software issue that you mention and usually we don’t climb into this level of detail. But from a quarter-on-quarter stand point we were accruing some amount last quarter and in this quarter we’ve resolved it. So there is a little bit of double win from those two and when I normalize it out, the R&D activity has continue to proceed as we expected. And on the PC side we don’t typically break out those numbers separately per se, it’s a single-digit number sort of mid-single digits millions of dollars.

Steven Frankel

Analyst

Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to Mike Olson with Piper Jeffery.

Mike Olson

Analyst

Good afternoon. I asked a similar question last quarter regarding some of the new initiatives. But I am curious on the latest thinking around, which of those initiatives between Dolby Vision, Cinema and Voice that you feel could be kind of the first to provide a material revenue contribution. I know you’re working on integrating Vision on some TVs for later this year and you are already in five Dolby Cinemas out there it sounds like that’s going to ramp quickly. I would guess it’s one of those two maybe more so than Dolby Voice, but how would you characterize that?

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

Sure. So looking at the new initiatives overall I do see that portfolio being a factor in our growth rate for next year. In terms of time to revenue as you say, Dolby Cinema is now in the market. It went in May 21st was the first showing. So it was late in the quarter, but we’ll get reports this quarter and we’ll begin, that will begin contributing to revenue. And as I said we’re expecting to have 10 Dolby Cinema at AMC prime sites by the end of the summer. They’ve been a fantastic partner I am really happy with how that’s progressing. We’ve also got a couple in Europe now and more on the horizon. So Dolby Cinema should contributing to revenue next year and we’ll keep you updated that as we go into the next quarter. As it relates to Dolby Voice, as I said in my remarks, we’re really pleased with the number of customers that have signed up for the BT MeetMe with Dolby Service and notably a lot of the larger customers are moving into implementation now and are going online anytime between well now and at the end of the calendar year. So as you’ll recall that we earn revenue from ports which is the capacity to offer these services. And then a share on the Dolby Voice minutes revenue and the opportunity to sell our Dolby Conference phone. So it’s when these companies go live that does last to revenue streams kick in. And so I think the next six months will be an exciting period for us as we get these large accounts into implementation and begin to encourage usage and the use of the Dolby Conference Phone. And of course and so we do see that being something where we’ll begin to see some of that as we go into the next year. Dolby Vision as you noted Vizio will ship the first Dolby Vision Television and of course we have content that’s ready to go those devices we have distribution partners. And I think in terms of ramping the revenue, we’re looking at first shipments towards the end of ‘15. So that’s probably in terms of time, it's probably time to revenue it's kind of in that order. And I think that again as a portfolio I do see it being a factor in our growth rate next year.

Mike Olson

Analyst

Alright, thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Go next to Ralph Schakart with William Blair.

Ralph Schakart

Analyst

Good afternoon. Two questions if I could. First, Lewis just question for you maybe it’s a point of clarification. When you talked about PCs and consumer electronics being soft due to overall sort of consumer weakness is that sort of more macro commentary or would you sort of also suggest that perhaps PC and CE are more of aging product category? And then second just on broadcast being up 7% year-over-year and I think account for flat growth it's kind of declined on year-over-year growth rate is that product category also sort of maturing or is it just a timing issue on that growth rate? Thanks.

Lewis Chew

Analyst

Sure, first of all yes. Almost all the comments we’re making about softness relate more to the macro. The PC macro is pretty well known you’ve already had some pretty big players out there comment and what they’re seeing in the PC market there is well published data on TAMs. So what we’re adding onto that is just the data we see broadly in CE, TV set top boxes which does affect broadcast. Almost all of our tone here is about the macro environment which, as you know, we really don’t control in terms of our share of market and our activities internally that’s going fine but really it’s a macro comment. And in some cases there could be some timing and maturity so in PC space we’ve talked for a little while now about as the PC has evolved to more and more don’t have optical disk that can effect does in terms of mix of pricing. So I wouldn’t call that a macro issue per se is a more specific to Dolby. But this quarter we actually did a little better in PC because of some these back payments. But going forward what we’re projecting for Q4 is probably similar to what we’d thought a quarter ago.

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

And just to elaborate on that, Ralph we do continue to see growth opportunities in broadcast. So the reference to the flattish outlook in Q4 really reflects the industry estimates we’ve for softness in consumer demand going into Q4.

Ralph Schakart

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Paul Coster with J.P. Morgan.

Paul Chung

Analyst · J.P. Morgan.

Hi, this is Paul Chung on for Paul Coster. Thanks for taking my question. A couple of quick ones from me. So R&D levels remained at elevated levels at least on an absolute dollar basis even though they came down sequentially. What magnitude of decline do you think we should expect if any of these new initiatives do take off? I guess where I’m trying to get to is where you can think your run rate for R&D and overall OpEx is in the scenario you see in high single-digit, double-digit growth?

Lewis Chew

Analyst · J.P. Morgan.

So maybe I could swipe that up even to overall OpEx.

Paul Chung

Analyst · J.P. Morgan.

Okay.

Lewis Chew

Analyst · J.P. Morgan.

We’re going to a trend right now where three or four years ago the OpEx was growing call it 10% or 12% or more percent but here in this year it will be I think maybe at our peak maybe as much as 15%, 16%, in fact in 2012 OpEx on a non-GAAP basis grew 16%. This year it will grow closer to 8% and what Kevin and I committed to doing is two things getting the company to a point where we can drive double-digit long-term growth in revenue and also we feel like we already are leveling off to growth rate in OpEx. We really haven’t given any forward-looking comments beyond next quarter for R&D and as announced I don't think I can give you any specific number right now. I don’t think that will be appropriate. But overall we do feel like we have invested significantly in that relationship between our OpEx and revenue is now close to a point that’s close to our business model. Now that does not mean, I mean your question inferred that somehow we said we’re going to cut R&D expense next quarter I don’t think we said that at all. So I just want to make sure you didn’t somehow pickup something we said that we didn’t.

Paul Chung

Analyst · J.P. Morgan.

Got you. Also finally what’s your sweet spot for cash at above a $1 billion? I know you mentioned an increasing buybacks are expected, but what magnitude can we expect given the stock levels are? Thanks.

Lewis Chew

Analyst · J.P. Morgan.

Yeah. I think the overall envelope that I highlighted in my comments is we currently already have $212 million of dry powder that’s been approved by the Board and in recent quarters most of our buyback has been to keep our outstanding share level and what we are signaling is that we expect to increase that level going forward and the envelope we are working within of course is $200 plus million and on top of that we also are signaling that we do expect to grow the dividend. In terms of an optimum number I don’t know that I can just give you one number right now. But we would expect to see that we will bring the cash balances down as a teeter totter to the increased buyback. So why we disagree that we’ll update on this topic every quarter.

Paul Chung

Analyst · J.P. Morgan.

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Eric Wold with B. Riley.

Eric Wold

Analyst · B. Riley.

Thank you and good afternoon. I know you are not kind of giving forward guidance beyond the Q4 guidance at this point. Just I’m thinking on a broader level to the original $970 million to $1 billion revenue guidance that was given for this year, which is now $970 million to $980 million, can you walk through the major drivers of that that brought that down from where you thought it would be originally and then of those drivers kind of looking forward where you see them maybe remaining as a continued risk or an opportunity to improve from there.

Lewis Chew

Analyst · B. Riley.

Yeah, thanks Eric. I’ll kick off the answer now and ask Kevin to add some color. So let me give you from a magnitude standpoint. If you look at the full year guidance we have brought down quite a bit on the product and services side and we’ve only just nudge down licensing this quarter because all through this year we’ve either on track or beating licensing and even the quarter we just reported, we were expecting 205 in licensing and we essentially got 205 and next quarter we’re bringing it down slightly and all of that is due to this macro comment that both Kevin and I commented on earlier. So we feel pretty good about the licensing and we had some expectations this year of our products and services, it’s going through a maturation phase we’ll make the best project we can and have adjusted. Going forward I actually think there is some good news coming eventually, because we’re going to see new products coming out of the merger between Dolby and Doremi. Also as Kevin mentioned on the Voice area as these customers start to implement and sort of utilizing BT MeetMe Dolby Voice we think that opens up an opportunity to increase product revenue there from the Dolby Conference Phone. But in terms of the year-on-year adjustment from the range of $970 million to $1 billion, now $970 million to $980 million a large chunk of that was just a decline in the product and services revenue and a little bit of an adjustment in the licensing for the current environment.

Eric Wold

Analyst · B. Riley.

And just quick follow-up on that, how should we think about timing for the new products coming out on the Doremi side or I guess Doremi/Dolby side?

Lewis Chew

Analyst · B. Riley.

Yeah we’re still working on that for example just this quarter we released the new product that was in development at the time that we brought Doremi, it’s the next generation integrated product for the Cinema. And so I would say that we're high on track. In fact if anything that trend will be probably be detected more by industry trends in terms of when people start to do their refresh then necessarily our activity although there is obviously a matching up of those two things we have to be ready when they want it. So the timing I think the timing will probably sort of level out bottom out and start picking up hopefully sometime next year.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. We’ll go to our next question with Jim Goss with Barrington Research.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Thanks. First I’d wonder about the other figure that tapped me a little bit was your licensing cost revenues were lower than they intended to be and I was wondering why and what that carryover into the fourth quarter? And I was also wondering about potential ASPs, and Windows 10 versus Windows 8 if you have a better situation than you did as you’re moving into that transition?

Lewis Chew

Analyst

Yeah so let me first thing to comment on the licensing cost of goods sold, Jim. When the number is that small we’re going to have some fluctuations quarter-on-quarter. I think longer term we have been running in that kind of 98% gross margin for licensing give or take. So I would say quarter-on-quarter it’s going to move around we might have some timing issues on when we pay royalties on third party patents that we own. But I would say the model that we’ve been running if you just average over a number of quarters there is nothing significant that’s changed. And I am sorry what was the other half of your question?

Jim Goss

Analyst

Okay. See Windows 10 inclusion versus Windows 8. It seem like that was a struggle last time, this time it seems like a better situation and I was wondering do you have higher ASPs and does this a more optimistic environment there?

Lewis Chew

Analyst

No I would say in general we would view the Windows 10 is being good because it continues the track that we’re currently on. And Kevin already said in his prepared comments that from organic business standpoint, it’s nice because it really expands the envelop of how people can enjoy content through Dolby both from an economic standpoint just think of it as a continuation of what we are doing now.

Jim Goss

Analyst

Alright thank you.

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

Okay, operator do we have any other questions?

Operator

Operator

There are no more questions at this time. So I'll turn the conference back to Kevin Yeaman for any closing remarks.

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

Okay. Well thank you everybody for joining us. And we look forward to updating you again next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference. Thank you for your participation.