Uzi Yemin
Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please go ahead
Well, first of all, our – we worked very hard, Spiro, as you know, because you challenged us 18 months ago, 24 months ago, about the cost of capital. If you look at our cost of capital now, I know that yesterday we got a little hit, but over the last month, it has been hovering around 7.5% [ph] on the equity side and on the debt side, because of our leverage going down every quarter, as you know, it's 3.4%, we're around 6% even a little bit lower than that. So we feel good about the cost of capital. And the MLPs are all around cost of capital. We think that we are competitive. Now with the pickup in the Permian, and you asked M&A, but I'll answer it in the second part of my answer. In the Permian, as you know, the activity is picking up. As you well know, DPG was dropped down to DKL a year ago, a little more than a year ago and still under MVC. But we see more and more activity in the Permian. We have more dedicated acreage and more people signing in and more people bringing rigs and wells. So we see the activity of this DPG picking up and maybe hit the 120,000 mark over the next year or so. So if that is the case, then we over build that asset or we build it to support much more than 100,000, 120,000, 150,000 barrels, so – and that's without much investment. If you think about that then, you say to yourself now the most important thing is to protect the cost of capital. We won't do any deal that will be leveraging the balance sheet, just not who where we are. But at the same time, we say to ourselves, okay, the leverage is coming down, the organic projects are bringing more to the table and maybe it's time to look at some kind of acquisition. I want to be very careful in light of the energies transformation and in light of the fact that we don't know what our future is. We -- even if we touch an acquisition, it should be very accretive, not leveraging the balance sheet, and making sure that their synergy is already to the assets we have, just because of the fact that we have a bright future with both DPG Paline and other assets as well as the dropdown of W to W, especially in light of the activity in the Permian. So I answer it in a long way, but if I didn't answer directly, I can't clarify it more.