Ezra Uzi Yemin
Analyst · Roger Read with Wells Fargo
Well, I want to be clear about one thing here, Roger. When we look at Midland, we don't think that Midland is going to be $10 or $12 or $15, and shouldn't be there. Our business model is based on the last 10 years of Midland differential then we checked it over 10 years, not one day, of $2.50, actually $2.49 to be exact. And when we take the $2.50 and apply it over long-term - and obviously we have very strong balance sheet, so we are not planning to leverage the balance sheet. And then, we add the plans we have for the midstream, as well as the alky unit and other initiatives that we have, we get to around $1 billion of EBITDA. That's the number, more or less, that probably we have in our head, and probably we want investors to remember. That's the number, more or less, in a normalized situation. I know that we got - we just got $310 million of EBITDA. Without the El Dorado thing and the elevated bonus, that number would have been closer to $330 million, $340 million. But let's just use $310 million, times 4; we are above $1 billion. But in the normalized situation, when we use $2.50, and adding the midstream initiatives, as well as the alky, we are around $1 billion. And if we talk about our sustainable cash flow, or cash flow to - maintenance cash flow, if you will - we're talking about $130 million. And then obviously we have plenty of room as our tax payment is around $100 million, $120 million. And interest is around $100 million as well. So any way you look at it, Delek is probably, amongst our peers, the biggest producer of free cash flow. So there's no reason for us not to look at dividend, and say, gee, this should be looked every time. And when we see the generation of $370 million of cash in the quarter, we're just comfortable where we are, giving more cash to shareholders.