Joseph M. Tucci
Analyst · ISI Group.
All right, this is Joe, and David can add a little color also. I think one of the things you'd be missing in those trends is how big the private cloud is going to be. And as David said, there are probably less than a handful of companies that are truly capable of having the resources to take components and build their own private cloud, like a Google could for instance. So obviously, what we're doing with the journey of virtualization into the software-defined data center is we're building that technology, and that's going to be a great -- I think, a great driver for us. Also, our highest growth area, if you looked at it kind of on a vertical basis, would have been in the service providers. You heard on the VMWare call yesterday, where they said second time is on Web services, there's the most number of apps running by far, and whoever's third is way, way, way behind that, running on the VMWare infrastructure. Most of those infrastructures also run EMC's infrastructures, those service provider companies. So again, we are riding well on those 2 trends. Big Data is a big growth area for us, and we don't see that that's disruptive. A lot of these data mining applications did not run on our technology yesterday, so we think we could be a net winner there. And when you look at some of the things that are happening on private clouds -- or excuse me, public clouds and on the service provider front, a lot of what they're attacking there is kind of shadow IT, and that was never a big win for -- in some test and dev. So test and dev impacts us a little bit, but again, we're picking that up with our service provider partners, and we never were a big winner with shadow IT. So I think we're in pretty good shape going forward here. I think we're in very good shape going forward. And if you looked at the 6 strategic areas that I outlined, which again, we'll talk to you more about next quarter in real depth, our future is incredibly bright, in my opinion.