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Donaldson Company, Inc. (DCI)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Tue, Jun 3, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Donaldson's Third Quarter Fiscal 2025 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. Today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Sarika Dhadwal, Senior Director of Investor Relations and ESG. Please go ahead.

Sarika Dhadwal

Management

Good morning. Thank you for joining Donaldson's Third Quarter Fiscal 2025 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Tod Carpenter, Chairman, President and CEO; and Brad Pogalz, Chief Financial Officer. This morning, Tod and Brad will provide a summary of our third quarter performance and our updated outlook for fiscal 2025. During today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP or adjusted results. For third quarter 2025 non-GAAP results exclude pretax charges of $62 million for the impairment of certain intangible assets for our 2 upstream bioprocessing businesses, Univercells Technologies and Solaris. Results also exclude pretax charges of $4.2 million for restructuring related to footprint optimization and cost reduction initiatives, $800,000 for business development and a $1.2 million gain on the sale of fixed assets. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP metrics is provided within the schedules attached to this morning's press release. Additionally, please keep in mind that any forward-looking statements made during this call are subject to risks and uncertainties, which are described in our press release and SEC filings.With that, I will now turn the call over to Todd.

Todd Carpenter

Management

Thanks, Sarika. Good morning. This quarter, the Donaldson team once again showcased our ability to deliver record sales and record adjusted earnings withstanding macro uncertainty including fluid tariff policies and end market pressures. Supported by the durability and strength of our razor to sell razor blade model excluding currency impact, we grew sales in all three segments. I am proud of our results. With our solid financial performance, the strength of our balance sheet, and an unwavering confidence in our ability to create long-term value, we repurchased an above-average number of shares in the quarter. In addition, last week, we announced an 11% increase in our quarterly dividend. Donaldson Company is in a position of strength. Earnings growth has outpaced sales growth for seven quarters in a row due in large part to operating margin expansion. We continue to make long-term investments in the company with sharp prioritization of technology opportunities and targeted capital expenditures. And we deploy a significant amount of cash to our shareholders through dividends and share repurchase. That has been our story, and that will continue to be our story. Before getting into highlights from this quarter, I would like to acknowledge yesterday's announcement on the appointment of Rich Lewis as chief operating officer, effective August 1st. His current role is president of life sciences and his track record of delivering operational success throughout his 23-year Donaldson tenure, including as president of mobile solutions position him well for success, and I look forward to partnering with Rich to further strengthen our execution across the organization. Now I'll cover some highlights from this quarter within each of our segments. In mobile solutions, sales grew in constant aftermarket business as we continue to gain share and post solid growth across all regions and across both the OE and…

Brad Pogalz

Management

Thanks, Todd. Good morning, everyone. We're pleased with our third-quarter results. Sales were up due to the strong foundation of recurring revenue and the diverse mix of businesses and geographies where we operate. Profit was up due to revenue growth, expense discipline, and prioritized investments, and we made notable contributions to shareholders via repurchase, and our recently announced dividend increase. I want to thank my colleagues around the world who stay focused on our customers and our opportunities for growth amidst this uncertain environment. It's no easy task, and they do these things while keeping a close eye on expenses profitability, and cash. Which makes us the strong company we are. Before going through the details on our performance, I want to touch on the charge we took in the quarter for an impairment of intangible assets. The charge relates to our two upstream bioprocessing businesses, Universal Technologies and Solaris. As we have discussed over the last several quarters, results have been pressured by market headwinds, including weak capital spending, and longer-than-expected drug development timelines. The situation has not improved, with an elongated ramp-up in sales and profitability ultimately leading to an impairment. That said, we still believe the bioprocessing market presents great opportunities for us. And we will continue to make strategic investments as we look for ways to develop and commercialize new disruptive technologies. Now turning to a few highlights from the quarter. Note that my profit comments will exclude the impact from the items Sarika referenced earlier. Total sales increased 1%. Driven by pricing and volume growth, partially offset by a headwind from currency translation. Expense leverage drove operating margin up 80 basis points. And adjusted EPS of $0.99 was 8% above the prior year. Going further into the P and L, we gross margin was 34.5%…

Todd Carpenter

Management

Thanks, Brad. Looking ahead, as I said in my opening comments, Donaldson is playing from a position of strength and I'm confident that we are well positioned to deliver long-term value through strategic investments strong execution, and disciplined capital deployment. Our team's ability to navigate dynamic market conditions while advancing innovation and growth initiatives gives me optimism as we drive forward to a robust future. With that, I'll now turn the call back to the operator to open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press

Angel Castillo

Operator

star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from Angel Castillo from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Good morning, and and thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the strong quarter. Just wanted to maybe unpack a little bit more If we could talk about kind of the gross profit margin dynamic, particularly, I think there there was a little bit of a step down here, I guess, in sequentially year over year, and you talked about some of the pieces. Can you as you look forward, could you talk about kind of the ability to remain price cost neutral and and how you're seeing inflation more broadly in your business and and perhaps also kind of quantify maybe how much was just due to footprint optimization initiatives and and therefore, might not repeat as we go forward? Hello? Hello?

Brad Pogalz

Management

Angel, can you hear me?

Angel Castillo

Operator

Yeah. We can I can hear you now?

Brad Pogalz

Management

Okay. Sorry about that. We've got some technical difficulties. Apologies to the group. So this is Brad. I I wanna start with the the footprint. That was the majority of the decline in gross margin in the quarter. And I I wanna touch on that really quickly. I'll come back to your other comments about price cost. But as far as the footprint specifically, we're we're at a point of heavy lift

Angel Castillo

Operator

can

Brad Pogalz

Management

kicked off last year. So one plant the US is closing and going to another US state. We've got a plant in the UK that's closing, and it's going to East Europe. So this is about driving towards longer-term opportunities and that's where the activities are happening right now. As far as price cost, we feel very good about our biz our position to stay neutral on that. We continue to get price. Obviously, the mission for us is to be fair with our customers. We're a premium brand in the markets, and there's a lot of different pricing strategies, but overall, there's no change to our stance here. We will continue to make sure that we hold on to pricing where we can.

Angel Castillo

Operator

That that's very helpful. And maybe if we could just expand a little bit more on the on the footprint side. As it relates to CapEx, you lowered the CapEx outlook for the year. Can you talk about maybe what's kind of driving that? And as you think strategically kind of longer term and given some of the administration's kind of proposed tax policies, any shift or potential kind of impact or or benefits to your strategy, capital investments as we think kinda going forward or desired and perhaps, you know, in size or timing of or location of of your investment?

Todd Carpenter

Management

Sure, Angel. This is Todd. So we launched CapEx projects when we feel comfortable that we can execute them. Given the dynamic environment of the tariffs, such situation and, clearly, supply chain pressures and disruption we have large teams of people dealing with that on a on a a more priority basis than launching some of the capex We're also really holding more inventory than we had originally planned this year as a direct result to that so we can offset supply chain. Remember, our strategy is to always put our customers first. So while we had initially thought that we would be driving inventory down faster than we are, and launching capex projects. Right now, it's it's really prudent to focus on executing the businesses for our custom and and that's what you're saying.

Angel Castillo

Operator

Very helpful. Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian Blair from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Todd Carpenter

Management

Next morning, everyone. Morning.

Brian Blair

Analyst

I was hoping you

Brad Pogalz

Management

offer a little more color on industrial solutions, top line trends. Obviously, the you know, segment revenue guide was was maintained. So, you know, moving parts net, I guess, I guess, to the same level you talked last quarter about the project driven side of IFS being I guess, somewhat bifurcated. You know, auto auto e d being notably weak having strength elsewhere. Is that still the case? Is your team seeing any shift in that dynamic? And then on the connected service revenue, that's, of course, been a good guy for the segment. I think you had called out around 30% year to date connected machine growth last quarter. Are you still seeing a similar level of momentum there?

Todd Carpenter

Management

Sure. So at the macro, Brad will get couple of numbers here or Sarka. But at the macro, this is what's taking place. Within within our, industrial solutions businesses, the equipment side of the business is a bit more pressured. We'd still see a large number of quotes coming through. It's just a little bit slower to turn those into projects, but there is healthy activity out there, just a little bit more careful. Therefore, what you're seeing from our company is is more of an aftermarket story. It's also we've been growing share nicely in our what we call stationary hydraulics business. And you know, put those two together, hydraulics, aftermarket, and then now the newer portion of services together, they can really offset any of the other headwinds. I would note also that in the quarter that power generation you know, that's a very lumpy business for us. That was a bit more muted comparably year over year. And so as we look forward in the year, we have more projects that will will be shipping. And that really helps us to sustain the overall forecast within Industrial Solutions.

Brad Pogalz

Management

Brian, this is Brad. I I just wanna add one point. Todd talked about the the recurring revenue for mobile solutions in in his prepared remarks, but I just wanna say to the to the question about our our results, a little over half of the IFS business is replacement parts. So this is, again, something that gives us quite a good foundation, especially as there's a little bit of a softening on the capex.

Brian Blair

Analyst

Yeah. Appreciate that color. And I'm sorry if I missed the the detail. What what was the the margin impacts of reversing the Purologix earn out reserves. And then given you know, the you know, prolonged path to, final process and commercialization, are the fiscal 2026 targets for life sciences still in play?

Brad Pogalz

Management

The the total Purologix specific was about $6 million in the quarter, and that's exactly what you said. It's an elongation of the revenue cycle in this business. Similar to what we talked about with the other upstream businesses. As far as fiscal 2026 targets, we're we're going through the process of building our plans right now, and that's something where we'll we'll come back to the group with something in fourth quarter like we typically do. Yeah. I do wanna point out

Todd Carpenter

Management

though that, Brian, as we continue to work on life sciences as this year evolved, our profitability within the life sciences business has sequentially improved each quarter of the year.

Brian Blair

Analyst

Understood. You, Ken.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Drab from William Blair. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Tyler Mulier

Analyst

Hey. Good morning. This is Tyler on for Brian. Thanks for taking my questions.

Todd Carpenter

Management

First, aftermarket business continues to report growth Just wondering how well trend is expected to hold up in the next fiscal year looking for guidance, but the the full year guidance right now implies a somewhat deceleration in the fourth quarter. But maybe this is driven by a strong fourth quarter in the prior year. I'm just wondering how does the growth rate trend against the recent strong performance in the next few quarters. Yeah. So if you just take a look at our company,

Todd Carpenter

Management

and split it into two halves, the fiscal year, First half is about 48% of our revenue in the second half. Is 52. It is at our mobile solutions aftermarket certainly falls within that cyclicality. Typically, our third and fourth quarters are the strongest of the year. And so that's the reason why you see a strong performance in the third quarter We just have good vehicle utilization and And very importantly, our teams are doing an excellent job at share gains. Within that, giving us confidence that you'll continue to see that in the fourth quarter as well.

Tyler Mulier

Analyst

Great. And then and aerospace and defense, things be strong as well. What is your visibility like in this segment? Do the comps get tough? In fiscal 2026? Or do you have enough project activity in the pipeline to to maintain the current pace? Thanks. Sorry. I'm not getting anything back.

Todd Carpenter

Management

Can you hear me now?

Tyler Mulier

Analyst

Yeah. Can you hear me now?

Tyler Mulier

Analyst

Okay. Great. Yep. So so when you look at the visibility of aerospace

Todd Carpenter

Management

and defense, we do have long visibility as much as four and five and six quarters on some of the projects. They go multi years projects. And and so we we do have good visibility. The difficulty in that business right now is the uncertainty of supply chain. And and so we have fits and starts within the supply chain activities making that a little bit more difficult to predict the lumpiness of it at this point in time. As well as they have had some swirling conversations of will there be some project cancellations, etcetera. But but, you know, project cancellations, conversations, are one thing to be had in in the in the newspapers. It's it's another to to understand whether they're really getting canceled. Or not, and we continue to execute all of those. So there's there's some some macro environmental things that are making that a little bit more difficult to predict, but you you know, you roll it all together in a way team is executing. Our business is really strong, doing an excellent job, taking care of our customers, and as we said, we just shipped a record quarter in in our aerospace and the vet's business.

Tyler Mulier

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. I'll pass it along.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Laurence Alexander from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Dan Rizzo

Analyst

Hi. This is Dan Rizzoone for Laurence. Just just to follow-up on that. So so you

Dan Rizzo

Analyst

indicated you had a record in a and d. So was there some pull forward there? Because, I mean, just based upon and you kind of talked about this a little bit. Based upon the the the key the overall two 2025 guidance. It seems like there is a somewhat of a slowdown in the fourth quarter here. Year over year. We we did have some

Todd Carpenter

Management

second quarter sales that flopped into the third quarter. And and so rather than a pull head, it was a little bit of a of a push out, if you will. We now we're able to get those projects shipped and and out but that's the supply chain disruptions that I've I've been referencing here. And we've baked all of that into the guide into the fourth quarter, and and that's how it rolls up. So so remember, we did

Dan Rizzo

Analyst

have

Todd Carpenter

Management

our aerospace and defense guide go from high single digits last quarter to now be low teens, so it has increased.

Brad Pogalz

Management

Yeah. One thing I'll add, Dan. This is Brad. Just keep in mind, please, that last year sales in aerospace and defense were up more than 20%. In the fourth quarter. So if you just try to smooth that with a two year, the first half and the second half of this year are looking more comparable than what the math would suggest with the specific quarterly growth rate for fourth quarter this year.

Dan Rizzo

Analyst

Okay. No. That that's helpful. And then I guess the same thing kinda with aftermarket then. Because the fourth quarter, I mean, it's still a fairly strong year, but it looks like, again, and this was alluded to before, there's a bit of a, I think, a downturn year over year in the the middle of on your guidance in the fourth quarter, but I guess that would just be attributed to a to a pretty tough comp.

Dan Rizzo

Analyst

Right? Right.

Todd Carpenter

Management

Right. Exactly.

Dan Rizzo

Analyst

Okay. And then final question, So with FX, is is there a rule of thumb that we should use like, make changes in the euro or other changes in the I don't know, the the peso or something like that of how how it works with know, with the fluctuations that we've seen over the past few months?

Brad Pogalz

Management

Yeah. It it's hard because of the basket of currencies. So the euro is the most commonly traded outside of the USD. And that's in the neighborhood of 20%. The next closest current currencies are some Asian ones that are low single digits. So you can see that outsized movements in places like South Africa or Brazil create a lot of volatility within the total numbers. So it's hard to give you a a heuristic on x percent equals y percent, but, hopefully, that helps some

Dan Rizzo

Analyst

Alright. It does. Alright. Thanks a lot, guys. I'll turn it

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Rob Mason from Baird. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Rob Mason

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats to Rich.

Rob Mason

Analyst

Wanted to circle back just on the industrial business and industrial segment, maybe I have hone in on IFS in particular, you know, your guidance for the year kind of implies the fourth quarter would be up sequentially. Todd, you talked about on the power gen side. That being more project driven. Similarly, the new equipment, I guess, in IFS quoting activities down. So is the step up that we're seeing in the fourth quarter, is that solely due to PowerGen? That's the way and and maybe aftermarket growth. Is that to think about that?

Todd Carpenter

Management

Three things. One, aftermarket growth. So industrial production continues. We continue to win share due to our connected based strategies. We also have a service based revenue that's been growing quite nicely. So that connected strategy really is helping to drive our aftermarket growth. So that's the first story. The second is we've done really well on industrial hydraulics or what we call stationary hydraulics. And we have grown that piece. And then the third piece will be the power generation that you referenced.

Rob Mason

Analyst

Okay. And and just because that is longer cycle,

Rob Mason

Analyst

power gen, is that do you have visibility that ex that stretches out over multiple quarters there, or is that I'm just curious if the your commentary around lower quoting activity you know, applies to that business also. We do. We have a very long

Todd Carpenter

Management

visibility on power generation. Some of the longest in the company. And I can tell you the power generation projects are are really being sought after to lock up capacity, from us all the way out as far as fiscal year 2028. So that's the kind of conversations that we're having with our customers. At this point. Power generation is clearly in a growth cycle. It's in already been for the last two years in a growth cycle. It's really an extended one as as you read about in the news

Rob Mason

Analyst

Yep. Okay. And then maybe I may have missed this, Brad, when you were commenting around the footprint optimization, but when would you expect those moves to to be complete in terms of just having an, I guess, a negative impact on on gross margin. If I can layer on another one real quick, just how should we be thinking about the timing of these tariff flow throughs as well as your mitigation efforts? I know it was negligible in the third quarter, but just over the next few quarters cadence. Sure. Both both important questions.

Brad Pogalz

Management

Footprint, a lot of the heavy lifting is gonna be done towards the end of this calendar year. There will be some trickle through into next year as we complete the moves. So that's that's something that we'd expect to happen again in the coming quarters. Tariffs, the flow through, you can think about this give or take, 1% of sales think $35 million or so. It's almost ratable at this point based on flow of goods. Now, of course, that's the estimate today, and and things are things are constantly changing. But from from our seat, and Todd touched on this, the region to support region footprint gives us a great advantage here, and then further the USMCA quality really help us. So we we do believe this is something that we can handily off as a function of pricing or moving moving supply chain.

Rob Mason

Analyst

Very good. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tim Stein from Raymond James.

Timothy Thein

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. I maybe I'll just

Timothy Thein

Analyst

package these together. The first question is on

Timothy Thein

Analyst

the maybe just some preliminary thoughts as we're looking at at 26. I I know, Todd, you're

Timothy Thein

Analyst

you're putting together the plans, but maybe just anything you could offer in terms of

Timothy Thein

Analyst

I don't know, maybe markets or geographies that you're

Timothy Thein

Analyst

maybe more optimistic about

Timothy Thein

Analyst

just maybe just, again, a high level of thought to the extent you're you're you can share that. And then part two is just on

Timothy Thein

Analyst

the mobile aftermarket as you as you look across the both the the the o e and and independent channels. Were is any comments just in terms of

Timothy Thein

Analyst

general inventory levels

Timothy Thein

Analyst

and and where where the channel sits from a kind of from a stocking perspective. And Sure. Let me that's it for me. Thank you.

Todd Carpenter

Management

You. Yeah. Let me take the inventory question first. So

Todd Carpenter

Management

I'll tell you, in the mobile aftermarket, we grew in both the o e and the independent channels within this quarter. Low single digits low to mid single digits in in both of those, and as a reminder, our independent channel is 55% of our mobile aftermarket, and the o e is 45. Relative to inventories out there, they feel like they're at pull through levels It's very comfortable conversations with both channels, and so that that all feels like will experience a normal cyclicality that we would expect in the fourth quarter. As far as fiscal 2026, you know, obviously, we're gonna be smarter in in 90 more days given the dynamic environment. But maybe what I'll I'll I'll say is I find it pretty interesting I hope you find it very interesting that our company just had a record quarter yet again. While our o e end markets have headwinds, and declining somewhat in the on road and the agriculture sectors, and yet we still continue to perform very well. We are poised when the overall economic cycle ticks up to really leverage that, and our company is in a solid solid position and executing exceptionally well as we look to 26 in our plans. We'll continue to have that in our sites, and that's the type of plan that we'll we'll put together for you, and we'll talk about here in about 90 days.

Timothy Thein

Analyst

Alrighty. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our last question comes from Nathan Jones from Stifel. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Adam Farley

Analyst

Yeah. Thank you. Good morning. This is Adam Farley on for Nathan.

Adam Farley

Analyst

I wanted to follow-up on the tariff discussion. I realized that it's relatively immaterial on the cost side, but do you have any expectations from lower global growth due to disruption or uncertainty from tariffs Maybe just any view on potential demand disruption from tariffs?

Todd Carpenter

Management

Tough to say. You know, we we continue to react to it, talk to all our customers. Make sure we take care of our customers. It's just it's just tough to say. I think I think if you take surveys out there, you get a varying degree of opinions. For us right now, you know, clearly, the first fit projects, both in the industrial and mobile, are are clearly more careful. But if you say vehicle utilization, our aftermarket pace businesses, our service based businesses, those kind of activities, they continue to march along pretty well.

Adam Farley

Analyst

So

Todd Carpenter

Management

it's really tough to say as far as will there be a pullback what lies ahead We're managing carefully just like everyone else. And, you know, doing doing a a very good job at that.

Adam Farley

Analyst

Alright. I'll leave it there. Thank you for taking my question.

Operator

Operator

Have no further questions. I'd like to turn the call back over to Todd Carpenter for closing remarks.

Todd Carpenter

Management

That concludes the call today. Thanks to everyone who participated. We look forward to reporting our fourth quarter and full year fiscal 2025 results. In August. Have a great day. Goodbye.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect. Have a great day, everyone.