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Docebo Inc. (DCBO)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 12, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, everyone and welcome to the Docebo, Inc. Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. All participants are currently in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will open the lines for Q&A session for analysts. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the call over to Docebo's Investor Relations, Dennis Fong. Please go ahead, Dennis.

Dennis Fong

Analyst

Thank you, Operator. Before we begin, Docebo would like to remind listeners that certain information discussed today maybe forward-looking in nature. Such forward-looking information reflects the company's views with respect to future events. Any such information is subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. For more information on the risks, uncertainties and assumptions relating to forward-looking statements please refer to Docebo's public filings, which are available on SEDAR and EDGAR. During the call, we will reference certain non-IFRS financial measures. Although we believe that these measures provide useful supplemental information about our financial performance, they are not recognized measures and do not have standardized meanings under IFRS. Please see our MD&A for additional information regarding our non-IFRS financial measures, including for reconciliations to the nearest IFRS measures. Please note that unless otherwise stated, all references to any financial figures are in U.S. dollars. Now I would like to turn the call over to Docebo's CEO, Claudio Erba.

Claudio Erba

Analyst

Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us on our second quarter 2021 earnings call. With me today is Ian Kidson, our Chief Financial Officer and Alessio Artuffo, our President and Chief Revenue Officer. This strong momentum that we demonstrated in the first quarter continued through the second quarter, and in fact, began to accelerate, resulting in our second consecutive quarter of record revenue and ARR growth. For the last two years, we have consistently stated that enterprises are investing in Docebo platform for strategic reasons and not out of short-term requirements that will reverse once we recover from the pandemic. The truth in these statements has been clearly demonstrated in our performance over the past six months. Further, we continue to believe the long-term adoption trend for digital learning tools like ours is accelerating and we expect these will contribute to our future success. Unlike a traditional LMS, that is specifically designed for use in MHR environment for employees, soft skills training and compliance, our customers are using Docebo as a productivity enablement tool across a wide range of use cases, from internal upskilling to sales enablement and importantly, as a tool to strengthen relationship with customer and partners through online training. These has been a fundamental differentiator for us that also significantly expand our total addressable market and potential ACV. The rate of our customer growth and size of our ACV continue to increase as more and more organizations became aware that the platform like Docebo exists. In the second quarter, we added 152 net new customers, including some great new logos that exemplify the traction we're getting across many industry verticals. One great example is RE/MAX, the leading global real estate franchisor. RE/MAX selected Docebo as their learning solution to grow user adoption, address user management…

Ian Kidson

Analyst

Thank you, Claudio, and good morning, everyone. For those interested in detailed breakdown of our financial results for the three and six months ended June 30, 2021, can be found in our press release MD&A and financial statements, which are now available on our website and are also filed on SEDAR and EDGAR. The slide deck accompanying this earnings call have made available on our Investor Relations website this morning. For those who want to follow along, I'm going to start my remarks on Slide 3. The strong momentum that we demonstrated in the first quarter carried over nicely into our second quarter with total revenue for the period growing to $25.6 million, an increase of 76% from the prior year. Subscription revenues also grew 76% from the prior year, and were $23.6 million, representing 92% of total revenue for the quarter. Professional Services revenue in the second quarter was $2 million, even an increase of 75% from the prior year period. As we noted in our press release, this quarter's results included $1.1 million of revenue resulting from a one-time catch-up related to a customer contract signed in 2020. IFRS accounting rules did not allow us to begin formally recognizing this revenue until this quarter. This contract was an unusual situation that we currently do not have with any other such agreements. Excluding this catch-up amount, our revenue growth were 69% over the prior year, and were very pleased with this rate of increase. Furthermore, as we look forward, all signs support our confidence and continued momentum over the foreseeable future. The acceleration in our business becomes apparent, when you consider the net growth in our quarterly ARRs as shown on Slide 4. We achieve $93.4 million in ARR at the end of the second quarter, an increase of…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from Robert Young with Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Robert Young

Analyst

Hi, good morning. I wanted to dig into your statement that there's no large deals in the quarter. It's a singles and doubles quarter, but you announced a number of impressive logos, Lululemon and RE/MAX. And so I'm just trying to -- is there any way to sort of dig into that statement a little more? What does a large deal mean? Because I think it's important to understand just on the pace of incremental ARR, you're able to add each quarter, what the influence of these large deals is. So any other detail there would be helpful?

Claudio Erba

Analyst

Yes. It's Claudio Erba. Can you hear me Claudio speaking? Robert, can you hear me?

Robert Young

Analyst

Yes.

Claudio Erba

Analyst

Yes. Great to meet again. So this quarter -- in the quarter, which I like to define very healthy because there are not outliers, it's all logo, the logo, not in term of the size, it's our sweet spot. And it's proving that we are continuously growing organic and efforts consistently. These from a quarter framework perspective, I leave that to Ian to detail of the size of the logos and the deal section.

Ian Kidson

Analyst

Sure. So Rob, when I think about an outlier, I think about a contract that is like a $1 million plus. And this quarter we didn't have a contract that was anything larger than $0.5 million. And we had -- correct me if I'm wrong Alessio, but I think it was like four, four or five that were hundreds of thousands of dollars, which as Claudio said, that that's right down in the middle of the fairway for us. So that's the kind of transactions that we love to do.

Robert Young

Analyst

Okay. That's really helpful. And then --

Alessio Artuffo

Analyst

Agree.

Robert Young

Analyst

Thanks, Alessio. And then the -- do any large deals that you've talked about in the release fall into Q3 like RE/MAX was after the end of the quarter with 80,000 users that seems like a larger deal to me. Does anything fall out of the quarter?

Ian Kidson

Analyst

I'm not sure. What you -- when you say -- fall --

Robert Young

Analyst

Like would anything have been -- would anything be driving ARR in the Q3 rather than the Q2?

Ian Kidson

Analyst

No. No. Any transactions that we've talked about have been signed in Q3.

Robert Young

Analyst

Okay. And maybe another --

Ian Kidson

Analyst

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Q2, Q2.

Robert Young

Analyst

Correct. And so do you expect larger deals in the back half of the year is Q2, just a slower quarter for large deal?

Ian Kidson

Analyst

If -- well, I mean, look, we are always working on large transactions, but they can take six months to two or three years to close, right. And that's why when we look at the health of our business, we're focused on what I would characterize as the -- I hate this word, but I'll say smaller transactions, because obviously those are significant. But let me pass it to Alessio to try to give you months or year it ends.

Alessio Artuffo

Analyst

Yes. Sorry, one second -- one second. I want to push back a little bit Rob, this initial low quarter, Rob, it's finally what you define low quarter for me when healthy quarter. I know that people like big checks, but for me it's more healthy in term of approving the performance of the sales machine and marketing machine and then the organization itself to sign 10 contracts that together is $1 million. Then one contract that is $1 million. You cannot forecast your growth on outliers. You need that to grow and to forecast your performance on consistency. So I mean 60 something percent, I'm very happy that you are so using it to our grid performance to define as low quarter this quarter.

Robert Young

Analyst

Okay. That's all great -- great figure.

Ian Kidson

Analyst

Hey Rob, and just to seal this for a second, we're actually really happy about the numbers at each and every segment level. We spoke about this multiple times. We are looking at the market for our smaller and medium sized customers, and a medium and large size customers and our large customers. We're not in the business, of necessarily of doing the big scale upfront. We're in the business of long-term value. We're in the business of customer experience. We're in the business of building a long-term relationship with customers and up-selling them. So we're totally happy starting with a few hundred thousand dollars and growing relationships later on in the millions, rather than starting with say the big bang and having to realize value immediately, which is harder then down over time.

Robert Young

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. That's all really good. Maybe second question would just be related to the expansion components. It sounds like that's more balanced, last quarter the expansion of existing customers seem to be driven by one large deal with the QSR. And so is that getting more balanced, is there positive trend to highlight there around growth with existing customers and then I'll pass the line.

Claudio Erba

Analyst

It is balanced and it is according to design and according to plan, the introduction of a new product is supporting our not our strategy, but really philosophy about creating long-lasting value for customers that we started selling Docebo Learning Impact and we're excited about the results we're getting out of it. It's very, very, very early days for shipping analytics, but the signals there are early stage pipeline are all good and positive for sure. There's a lot of work to do on structuring our sales machine and that was very focused on LMS only to now selling the learning suite. I will not deny to you. There is the change management to do and this takes time, but we're really excited about what's that had.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Stephanie Price with CIBC. Please go ahead.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. I want to dig into the OEM strategy a little bit more here. Just curious if you can give us an update on the MHR, OEM agreements and whether you're seeing a similar ramp up to what you saw with Ceridian once it was implemented.

Claudio Erba

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead.

Hi, Stephanie, and good morning back to you. The question about MHR and Ceridian, these partners are the ones that are also being for the longest time active results, for sure Ceridian a way longer than MHR. Those two relationships continue to be very strong. The results and the performance are according to the plan established with the firms. And we expect the following that our integration capabilities with their products continue to get better and expensed. And as a result of we're going to create incremental value at an accelerated pace. At this point, Ceridian and MHR constitute the larger majority of our OEM revenue. But as you have seen in the press release, we are quite consistently adding new partners in different categories. Not only HR like Ceridian, MHR and Orchestrate and we believe that that a mix of strategy in which we will add the good shape the productivity enablement technology to companies like Workspan and others we also have mentioned the silent lobe. I'm sure you guys have seen it all the relevant system integrator that is going to use the table for a managed services practice. We believe that the channel business of OEM is really powerful for us. I hope that answers Stephanie.

Stephanie Price

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead.

It does. Thank you. And maybe just a follow-up to that, just curious around what areas outside of the HR and space that you're kind of focused on. It sounds like the systems integrators and IT services are focused, how do you kind of see that strategy rolling out going forward?

Claudio Erba

Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead.

Yes, yes. We're working on this actively. We actually have a vision where we view the OEM business really in terms of territories and industries and their products. And we can approach all these markets with a different value proposition depending on what these vendors need to accomplish in their respective industry. With that in mind, we've seen increased interest in the SI space. We've seen a lot of interest in other markets that are not HR like risk. For example, we've signed Vartopia, and Workspan there are in the business of helping companies, leverage partners. We really believe that the future is really bright there. And I think as we mature those industries and categories in the future, we'll be able to be even more, if you will, clear as to what segments and industries are -- we're seeing more traction.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from with Richard Tse with National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Yes. Thank you. So you had some really impressive wins here, just wondering maybe get us a bit of color in terms of these wins. Are they competitive displacements or something else here?

Claudio Erba

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Alessio, are you going to take it?

Alessio Artuffo

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Sure, sure. And thank you for the question on displacement replacement. Look, we've said in the past that essentially when we win business from somebody there are really three categories that we see are more prevalent. The first one is replacement from Tier 1; I would say light point LMS solutions. These are those vendors that perhaps are in the earlier stages of experience of the customer with the learning suite or learning platform. They usually are outgrown within a certain amount of time. The second category and we see this category more in the smaller and mid-size companies. It's homegrown solutions. Oftentimes we displace customization on top of OpenSource software or SharePoint or other artifacts that used to believe at learning. This is true in certain industries and generally broadly speaking in the mid-market. In the enterprise market, I mean, we're displacing the enterprise competitors. That's the reality. Customers that that we speak to are looking for better customer experience, they're looking for better software -- for software that is more flexible. And they're looking for focus on learning and we're winning business from companies that perhaps have a focus that is not just learning more on talent and these enterprises see value probably with Docebo.

Richard Tse

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Okay. Super helpful. Thanks. And then in terms of the partnerships, like there's a notable increase in partnerships across the Board SI and OEMs. So given that you've the growth rate -- you've had up until now without sort of this meaningful scale up and partnerships. Is it fair to say that as we look out maybe 12 months from now, we're actually going to see a step function up in terms of the accelerating growth profile because of those partnerships?

Claudio Erba

Analyst · National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

So Claudio speaking. I think, I mean, it's a correct statement saying that the more partner we own at Docebo, the more partners will bring value in the future. I don't know when this will happen. We have some benchmark with an HR with Ceridian it can up in nine-months or I don't know 15 months. And another point is that we hope that every partner will be extremely successful, but based on the market size of different sector, and on the efficiency of the partnership, some partners will perform better than other partners. So that said what makes me happy is the absolute number of the partner, if you remember, in 2019, 2020, in our first earnings call, we had one partner only. And now we have like, more than five, six, seven and the -- we are continuously feeding the pipeline of new partners. And we are also evolving the technology to support new partner, because not every partner implement the solution for the same use case or in the same way. And so when I start speaking about the product, I go to nerve, so sorry, and I hope that will make you happier for despite about the answer.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Daniel Chan with TD. Please go ahead.

Daniel Chan

Analyst · TD. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Congrats on the strong quarter. I want to dig into the --

Claudio Erba

Analyst · TD. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Chan.

Daniel Chan

Analyst · TD. Please go ahead.

I want to dig into the channel partner channel as well. And you've got a number of partners now to help you address different global opportunities. And Ceridian just closed their acquisition of Ascender in March, which really builds out their Asia-Pac presence. So can you give us an update on what your global expansion strategy is? And whether you're going to be leaning on some of these partners to help you get into some of these geographies you're not currently in? And then maybe in addition to that, is your product ready for these new markets? Or is there still work to be done?

Claudio Erba

Analyst · TD. Please go ahead.

So there are real challenges with it. There are low hanging fruit in terms of geography. There is -- we are opening an office in Germany, which will be a direct office. And as you know, Germany is in my backyard or Germans would say that Italy is in their backyard. There are Nordics, and there is Australia and New Zealand. Those markets are markets that are friendly to our marketing and communication style. They can digest the way western company communicate. So if we have to prioritize through partners or directly from geography, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, and Nordics are our top priorities. And probably as a consequence, when you are in Australia and New Zealand, probably it's easy to expand in some other area of Asia-Pacific. What is in the world is with COVID try to penetrate the market, they require a lot of deals to setup the office, a lot of local networking, in order to know these guys -- and this is where what we call a value-added reseller strategy works very well for us. For sure, it's been our partners, like Ceridian that are is in a specific country. We think we can support also countries that are -- regions that are different from the one that I mentioned, especially because do not forget that Docebo since probably 10 years support the 32 languages, support the right to left pagination, support non-western characters like recent Arabic, Chinese unit. And also, we now work cloud capability basically AWS, we can act a lot like a local vendor. And we do have in all the region that we have opened to support Brexit when British company has a data center in Ireland. And we have one data center in Canada. So basically, thanks to the partnership with AWS and with the technology we have the kind we can also be friendly from a data perspective, which is an usually an underestimated point. But I mean, if you compare the data center in UK, you are not compliant with the UK privacy data. So I think we are ready, we -- but we are also pragmatic, we want to prioritize. What are the countries that from our feeling and data and capacity to communicate? We'll have more chance to be successful.

Daniel Chan

Analyst · TD. Please go ahead.

That's very helpful. Thank you. I also want to dig in on the ACV growth. I mean, that that was a really good metric to, is that mostly being driven by new modules, more seats or a combination of the two. Thank you.

Ian Kidson

Analyst · TD. Please go ahead.

It's. Sorry, Alessio do you want to take that?

Alessio Artuffo

Analyst · TD. Please go ahead.

Sure.

Ian Kidson

Analyst · TD. Please go ahead.

It's not being driven by more seats. And it's a combination really, of larger use cases driving larger annual ARR is embedded in the contracts. And in the future -- and today, I would say that's like 90% of it. Going forward, we obviously hope that that upsells are going to contribute a larger proportion of that. And what we saw this quarter would certainly support that view.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Phillip Leytes with Berenberg Capital. Please go ahead.

Phillip Leytes

Analyst · Berenberg Capital. Please go ahead.

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. Just based on your prepared remarks, it sounds like you hinted that M&A would become a bigger part of your strategy for the company going forward. Can you give us some color on maybe what kind of M&A targets or assets would be of interest?

Claudio Erba

Analyst · Berenberg Capital. Please go ahead.

Yes. Claudio speaking. If you know my mantra, my mantra is I don't want to make mistakes. So that that the fact that Bagini Martino, who worked with me as COO, is now Corporate Development. The fact that we know each other for at least 10 years and the fact the he has a venture capital in the ground, makes me optimistic that now that he can focus 100% on opportunities. We will -- we will -- we have a more customized capability to assess every opportunity that lands on our desk or we want to pursue proactively. Let's see. There are different opportunities out there from acquired to adjacent market to local vendors to expand into specific geography and we will evaluate everything without the need or the hurry to deploy the capital in an inefficient way. We will deploy our capital only if we are sure that there will be a tremendous upside and a great return of investment for our shareholders. That said what makes me optimistic is that we've executed above our expectation before matrix integration in the table. When I have seen all my HR team, not my, the HR team it's not mine. The HR team, the finance team, the sales team, the professional services, the IT, operation, working together to integrate another company at the first integration level as was our first recognition inside our ecosystem of people of culture of products. This makes me optimistic that the next acquisition will be I hope successful as the first one. That said we are not in a hurry. We don't want to make mistakes.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Nick Agostino with Laurentian Bank. Please go ahead.

Salman Zia Rana

Analyst · Laurentian Bank. Please go ahead.

Yes. Good morning, and good afternoon and good afternoon, Claudio. This is Salman on behalf of Nick Agostino. So a few questions from my end. First of all, it's about the competitive landscape. Have you seen any changes lately, because some competitors seem to be returning to the public markets again, citing high growth in the learning space, e-learning space? Does that signifies strong prospects and thereby strong competition ahead.

Claudio Erba

Analyst · Laurentian Bank. Please go ahead.

So the markets are still fragmented and these are not tied only to the learning management system space. And in training, it can happen everywhere now. Most of the training that is becoming easier related to performance to enablement, to experience, and it's coming from other sources. For the standard competitor, because every company at the end of the day need a learning ecosystem inside their IT ecosystem. It's made by the same competitors that we usually disclose every quarter the big news was Cornerstone that was taking private. And I do like a couple of companies out there, but these are the old competitors that we say.

Salman Zia Rana

Analyst · Laurentian Bank. Please go ahead.

Okay, that's very helpful. And my second question is about your scaling comments, already you mentioned that the company continues to scale up and increase headcount. So are you facing any headwinds or issues with finding talent, especially tech talent, where there has been a tech crunch lately? Do you see this as a 30-year growth?

Claudio Erba

Analyst · Laurentian Bank. Please go ahead.

So foreign competition in technology is incredible. I mean, everyone needs a software engineer, everyone needs the director of sales, and literally every role is in the scarcity mode. You start thinking about the actual employees and so we see any churn from the employees this is not at the level of red flag. The churn happens in typical departments, were usually are high churn. Let's say -- I think that inflection is rising; the talent competition is rising, especially when there are no anymore geographical buyers. I mean, you can hire engineers on in Iceland or in India, or wherever you want or in Switzerland. Because now the remote is a key selling point where you want to hire people, so, yes, and then the other companies out there will see a talent competition.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Paul Steep with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Great. Good morning. I'm just toss them both in one here. The first one would be just can you talk a little bit about the go-to-market for upsell or how you've organized the sales force. More importantly, how we think about that timing of the ramp in revenues, which obviously end up preferred to in the Q4/Q1 update, but just how meaningful which think that is in terms of contribution coming on. Second, quick follow-up would be on extranet type deals for Ian, can you just remind us on the scaling of those versus typical, but how we think about revenue recognition and also the rollout of those? Thanks, guys.

Claudio Erba

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Hello, we are speaking about how to scale your sales machine. Maybe it's better listen from the guru.

Ian Kidson

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Sorry, guys. I was muted. I'm sorry guys. I was trying -- I was talking and nobody was paying attention to me now I realize why. All right. So can you guys hear me okay. Yes. So the question on the organization of account management team and lead and expense strategy. So first, I'd say our goal is to create demand with similar approaches both in the base and in the Greenfield. When we think of the base, we think of the base in a couple of different ways. For one, we think of a customer and an organization having multiple buyers within the same organization. Practically what that means is that whenever we sign a company, say Lululemon, which we announced this quarter, we understand that in that same company, there are multiple stakeholders that are receptive of conversations for Docebo products and services. We can categorize that as a upsell activity, which is task and assigned and owned by the account manager and properly account planning exercise that we do. Further to that, there is an additional layer. We look at every organization in a 360 way, we mapped out not only the internal individuals that may have need for learning, but we look at the 360 structure of the company in terms of sister companies affiliated parent. And we create a wider net, which we approach with digital marketing, account-based marketing, and targeted strategic marketing with our account developing team. That would not be possible or better stated we would not have positive results if we didn't have strong focus on the customer experience. So we have a CX team that is in charge of the adoption side and making sure that the actual customer is using the software is being helped to go live and not just configured, but we go from soft launch to go live and from go live to real adoption. So when you do that, and you have good account planning strategies, and good business development strategies, and good demand generation strategies in debase our addressable market in debase becomes huge. And look, we're relatively new to this engine. It's not hyper mature. We're working very hard to make it better and better. And I think, all the efforts that we're making will pay dividends in the quarters to come. Paul, does that answer the first part of the question?

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Yes, that's great. Thank you.

Ian Kidson

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

And, Paul, the second part, if you could restate it, because I just wasn't positive what you're meant about the extra net revenue?

Paul Steep

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

I guess I'm just referring to organizations, while they might be employees; a number of them are franchise type models, like a large QSR or real estate type organization where you presumably have to get the franchise owner on board? Or is this should we think of those wins as embedded in the core franchise fees? Thus you don't have to go and win in hand-to-hand combat each deal. Thank you.

Ian Kidson

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Right. So specifically, with respect to that type of transaction, correct me if I'm wrong Alessio, but I'm all of the ones that we have signed along that line, have been fixed up front for an absolute dollar amount. So it's not on us to go win the franchise. It's the franchise or deals with their franchisees.

Alessio Artuffo

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Yes. We implement the framework agreement, which then enables holdings to do deals with the franchisees separately. We don't control that.

Ian Kidson

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Right. There -- but there is an element to your question, Paul, that I think is really good and really important. And when we think about the OEM side, we have announced some significant OEM partnerships this quarter. Our ARR associated with those relationships today is zero. Because they are using us to go create a business how that business unfolds will be, yet to be determined. And we will work with them to support the development of that business. So something like a Ceridian, our ARR with Ceridian isn't a pre-determined bucket like it is with a typical customer. We partner with Ceridian and ARR grows overtime.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Your next question comes from Christian Sgro with Eight Capital. Please go ahead.

Christian Sgro

Analyst · Eight Capital. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to ask one this morning. When you guys think about the direct sales pipeline, where have you seen interest these days either geographically or by vertical? What's been strong anyway?

Alessio Artuffo

Analyst · Eight Capital. Please go ahead.

Hello Christian, Alessio speaking. We manage pipeline by looking at it. Our pipeline for instance, tell us that our position of horizontal players that addresses the learning needs across the many multiple industries remains unchanged. Now, what we look at is also the constitution of the pipeline in terms of average deal size per segment. And what we're seeing is that we have a fairly linear constitution of deal. What that means is we have companies at each and every commercial segment are in a range and value that is within the expectation for that business segment. Now we like that linearity because we don't like peaks and valleys that then eventually result in peaks and valleys also on the booking side. Verticals wise, I said, or horizontal and that's true. But strong momentum remains on technology, stronger momentum is continues to exist in manufacturing. It seems interesting growth and return of demand from hospitality, we believe, we announced Red Roof, you think about that. And retail as well. Lulu is another good example of that; it continues to perform very strong. Now, if you look at our pipeline, and you take the Top 10 verticals technology companies, consulting companies, and companies that really leverage the table, as it go-to-market technology are the ones that make up for the largest amount of ARR or volume. And what's interesting is that we're seeing that ability to turn learning into a leverage or an enablement for activity technology is something that makes money, whether it's to retain it or make it across many verticals. And it used to not be the case, it used to be that SaaS companies used to have academies to retain customers, or sign your customers. But now we see the same logic applied across thousands of verticals. And that's fascinating. That's why we think our addressable market in a ways huge.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed.

Claudio Erba

Analyst

Can you hear me guys?

Ian Kidson

Analyst

Perfect.

Claudio Erba

Analyst

So I just want to thank you, everyone. Today, I think we repeat both record quarter and record of question from analysts. So we performed well in both of them. Thank you so much it was a pleasure having you here as usual. And let's speak in November where we hope to do it in person from Toronto.

Alessio Artuffo

Analyst

Thank you everyone.

Ian Kidson

Analyst

Thank you all.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a great day.