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Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 28, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Data I/O First Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jordan Darrow, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Jordan Darrow

Analyst

Thank you, and welcome to the Data I/O Corporation first quarter 2022 financial results conference call. With me today are Anthony Ambrose, President and CEO of Data I/O Corporation; and Joel Hatlen, Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer of Data I/O. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that statements made in this conference call concerning COVID-19, future revenues, results from operations, financial position, markets, economic conditions, silicon chip shortages, supply chain expectations, estimated impact of tax reform, product releases, new industry partnership and any other statements that may be construed as a prediction of future performance or events are forward-looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. These factors include uncertainties as to the impact from the COVID-19 pandemic, including the 2022 outbreaks in China, Russian invasion of Ukraine including any related international trade restrictions along with continued reopening and recovery efforts within the relevant global supply chains and among our customer base, levels of orders for the company and the activity level of the automotive and semiconductor industry overall, ability to record revenues based on the timing of product deliveries and installations, market acceptance of new products, changes in economic conditions and market demand, part shortages, pricing and other activities by competitors and other risks, including those described from time to time in the company's filings on Forms 10-K and 10-Q with the Securities and Exchange Commission, press releases and other communications. The accuracy and completeness of forward-looking statements should not be unduly relied upon. Data I/O is under no duty to update any of these forward-looking statements. And now I would like to turn over the call to Anthony Ambrose, President and CEO of Data I/O.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

Well, thank you very much, Jordan. I’ll begin my formal remarks by addressing our 2022 first quarter financial and operational performance. And then I’ll turn the call over to Joel Hatlen for a more detailed look at the numbers. As we announced on March 29, our manufacturing and shipping facility operations in Shanghai were forced to shut down due to COVID-19. This government imposed lockdown is still in effect. With the COVID-19 restrictions and shutdowns impacting our facility in many of our customers and business partners, first quarter revenue shipments were approximately US$1 million were not realized, although no orders have been canceled. During the first quarter, we did achieve bookings of $6.2 million and backlog of about $4.1 million. Auto electronics represented about 63% of orders in the quarter. And we had six new customer wins, including a new automotive electronics customer in Africa. The war and lockdown hit during a solid ramp in our sales funnel. We added several million dollars of opportunity to our funnel in January and February. Earlier this month, we celebrated a major milestone with our 400th PSV platform win and shipment with over 220 PSV programming systems supporting the global automotive electronics industry. We now have over 50 unique automotive electronics customers worldwide. As we mentioned in the release, all of our Shanghai based employees are safe and at home and working remotely to provide technical support to our customers or assisting the transition to alternate supply chains. We’ve been able to keep up with system demand for our Redmond, Washington USA manufacturing facility and of accelerated ramp up of alternative manufacturing for our adapters. We anticipate logistics challenges as we plan to re-open our Shanghai operations in May. These logistics challenges will include freight forwarding capacity, partner availability and overall supply chain…

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

Thank you, Anthony, and good day to everyone. I’d like to start by providing a review of our first quarter of 2022, starting with cash and our balance sheet, and then moving to the income statement. Data I/O’s financial condition remains strong with cash at $12.3 million on March 31, 2022, down from $14.2 million at the end of the prior year and $13.6 million at the end of the first quarter of 2021. The change in cash relates primarily to approximately $1.6 million of one time or annual seasonal payments, including a one time China dividend withholding tax of $442,000 and a planned disbursement for annual incentive compensation, annual 401(k) match and seasonal public company costs like the audit and NASDAQ fees. Days sales outstanding or DSO, a receivable collection measure at March 31, 2022 remained at or below our target measure at 49 days. Networking capital on March 31, 2022 was $16.9 million, down from $18.5 million at the end of the prior year. Inventory of $6.6 million on March 31, was approximately $274,000 higher than at the end of the prior year. The increase in inventory related to inability to ship approximately $1 million of product potential revenue resulting from the Shanghai COVID lockdown. Now onto the income statement. For the first quarter, revenue of 5 million, was down 17% from the 6 million in the first quarter of 2021. The decrease again was primarily due to the approximately 1 million of finished product, potential revenue, including five PS [ph] systems that had been a waiting pickup in the Shanghai factory for delivery to customers that were caught up in the lockdown. As Anthony mentioned, the quarter started strongly with improved orders and added sales funnel prospects, as it appeared the supply chain and silicon part shortage…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jeff Peterson with Austin Capital. [ph] Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thanks Anthony and Joel for taking my questions. You seem to be performing quite well and the issues you’ve addressed and what has been – what we’ve read about out and the bookings have indeed been showing signs of industry recovery. So this is very promising. I did have a few questions. The first one I had is, has the fallout thus far from the Russian invasion of Ukraine helped your security business at all?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

That’s a good question, Jeff. I think the – there’s a lot of noise around, what are the Russians are going to do around cybersecurity attacks? And so I think a lot of people are getting awareness about that. You hear a lot about major infrastructure and enterprises, but I think people are also realizing that their internet of things, devices are also a prime target for denial of service attacks, other things like this and that a real security strategy to protect those assets is required. So I think it continues to generate awareness it’s yet one more reminder of why you need to secure your IoT devices.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, great. That’s very helpful. Thank you. The – I think I have a good handle on the company. So I’d like to focus my questions on your balance sheet to determine just how attractive the shares may be. My first question on that is, can you review some of the cash that was used in the quarter to pay those annual expenses?

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

Yes, as I was commenting on it, it was primarily one time or annual seasonable payments that was responsible for the change in cash. The dividend we had from our subsidiary in China resulted in $442,000 of withholding. In addition, the other items that used cash related to the – in change of compensation that had been accrued previously for the year, it included the annual matching fee for our 401(k) plan. It included different annual public company costs such as the audit and NASDAQ fees and the like. So that’s probably the main points.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for the additional color on that. And what are the capital expenditures for the year and what – how do we think about that for financial modeling purposes?

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

They are expected to be pretty similar to last year’s stuff, which would have it be in the 600,000 to 700,000 range at this point.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

And Joel, how much of that is, sales demo systems, which ultimately gets sold?

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

I would, guess that that’s off the top of my head at least half.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

Okay. So, you know, 300-K or so to run the business and another 300, 400-K on sales demos.

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

That’s correct. Yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, great. And then on the – how do we think about the projected cash flow in the business? It looks like you’re going to have some spring back after you ship and collect that [indiscernible] million dollars in products waiting to be delivered. If you could kind of help me to walk through how do I think about, cash going forward?

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

Yes. We typically have not been big spenders in terms of CapEx for infrastructure and thing and the likes. So you have seen that our cash flow tends to match, our EBITDA adjusted. So that’s probably one of the better ways of monitoring it from a thumb in the air standpoint. We have a very strong balance sheet. We have no debt. So there’s no drains that way. We aren’t doing any financing or anything along that line. So for the most part, it’s – where’s our working capital deployed. And you will see that we fluctuate by how much our receivables or inventory or accrued expenses are on a quarter-by-quarter basis. So there are fluctuations, but we had the major cash outflows in the first quarter, which is typical for our seasonal expenses. And we tend to build cash for the rest of the quarters during the year.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

But Joel, so given that there were sort of unusual times right now with the lockdowns and such. So, our inventories, we’ve been spending cash on inventory to secure the supply chain. Do you think, what do you think the inventories are going to be doing from here on out?

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

I expect that as soon as we can start shipping again from Shanghai, we will see that million dollars of product instantly go out. And then I expect that we had been buying things for the expected growth. And I think that you’ll see that we can now just sort of bleed that off as we continue to rationalize our inventory levels to our demand.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

So basically no cash contribution to inventory may be a little benefit from that.

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

That’s correct.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

And then what’s our DSO average historically, 55 days, something like that.

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

Yes. It’s been – it typically averages between 50 and 60 days. We have a target that’s saying, keep it under 60 and we’ve been able to keep it in the very high 40s, so…

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

Right. So just let’s make the map easy, call it 50 days. So once we start shipping, then we’ll get our cash for those shipments on average, 50 days later, which is sort of the end of quarter could be Q3. So cash flow by the end of Q3, assuming we can get reopened in May, should be back to normal.

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

I would guess that, yes.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

Okay. Jeff, did that answer your question?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yeah. And just to follow up on that, that was really helpful and follow up on that. How do I think about that Q3, you talked about that, but how do I think about Q4, the remainder of where do you think you’ll settle in at the year end?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

We probably couldn’t give you a forecast on that right now, as we get through the year, it might be a little easier to do that. Certainly once everything gets back to I’ll call it more like business as usual from a shipments perspective.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. I’ve got a blended gross margin of over 50% is, how do you – how should we think about that? Is that give or take? Is that about the right level?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

It’s really hard to say with how many uncertainties there are in today’s world with the COVID and the war and stuff like that. Our long-term target gross margin is in the mid to upper 50s. And that’s where we’re at on a typical basis. Obviously, this quarter is not going to be typical. And I think that second quarter, who can say, but I do believe that being in the mid 50s is kind of the more immediate target range.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Can I think about that for Q3 or Q2, I mean, is that fair?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

I don’t want to be problematic with your question, but Q2 – Q1 was weird. Okay. We left $1 million of product on the dock in a crate. Q2, we hopefully unwind that. So, the normal comparisons we have probably don’t make a lot of sense, I think, if you talk about a four quarter average for the year. Yes, then I think we’re comfortable with those numbers. But on an imageable quarter basis, it’s going to be crazy in Q2.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. That’s really helpful. Thanks. And your average quarterly accounts payable in 2021 was about $4.8 million, your AP at the end of the first quarter of this year was $4.4 million, a $400,000 reduction since 1231. [ph] Did you plan for that sort of reduction from the end of the year? Was there any significant one or two items that were paid down, beyond what you mentioned on those one timers or discreet items?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

It was primarily those one timers. So it’s the incentive compensation, it’s the company match. Those are for the 401(k) plan. Those are the items that traditionally get paid out in the first quarter and were accrued in the prior year. So yes, we did plan on paying those down. And that’s typical in our overall cash flow planning.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Thanks guys. And that’s all the questions that we have at this time.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from David Wright with Henry Investment Trust. Please go ahead.

David Wright

Analyst · Henry Investment Trust. Please go ahead.

Anthony, hello? Can you talk about, do you – are there any products that you manufacture in China that you couldn’t manufacture in Redmond?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Henry Investment Trust. Please go ahead.

No.

David Wright

Analyst · Henry Investment Trust. Please go ahead.

Can you talk about sort of like if the company decided, it didn’t want to be in China anymore, what would that involve?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Henry Investment Trust. Please go ahead.

Yes, well, let me maybe answer your question this way. We’ve had a policy, we call the resilient supply chain and it’s been accelerated since the advent of COVID-19 a couple years ago. And it refers not just to our tangible products, the systems, the adapters, spare parts, things like that. But also the intellectual property products our device support, technical items, software development, things like that. We’ve had a strategy to be in China for manufacturing for well over a decade because it’s really good. It’s low cost, it’s highly predictable. And it serves our China market, which is one of our biggest markets. It serves that market very well. So for us, what’s happened is with the advent of tariffs and increased freight costs and shortages of semiconductors, which makes moving physical goods, more complicated. We’ve been moving and splitting and trying to balance the manufacturing between Redmond and Shanghai a little bit more. And that’s accelerating obviously with the lockdown but the business decision on where to build things will be where is the end customer, what’s the total cost and what’s the availability of talent in that region. So, that’s how we’ll be looking at how to balance our resilient supply chain going forward. I’m pleased with the progress we’ve made in the last couple years. We’ll be accelerating that. And then I think it’ll just be an idea of where do we want to go from there.

Joel Hatlen

Analyst · Henry Investment Trust. Please go ahead.

One more factor that I’d mentioned, Anthony is, we do have a goal of some tax efficiency. So to the extent we can – we would like to use up NOLs in the United States and not pay for tax in that place.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Henry Investment Trust. Please go ahead.

Yes. That’s a really good point, Joel, I’m glad you brought that up. So David, one of the other factors is tax efficiency, not just supply chain efficiency.

David Wright

Analyst · Henry Investment Trust. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thanks for taking my question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Avi Fisher with Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Avi Fisher

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Hi, Avi.

Avi Fisher

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Quick ones. Hi, I’m curious if you could talk about the opportunities to penetrate new markets via SentriX. And what I mean is 65% of your business [indiscernible] is automotive. What other markets can you penetrate and can SentriX be the tip of the spear for that?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Yes. I think that’s a good question, Avi. We think SentriX has applicability and automotive, but we think it also has a big applicability in the industrial IoT market, which is our second largest market. And it’s been growing a little bit for us as a percentage over the past couple years. So yes, SentriX can help us in industrial and IoT. I would say most of our customers for SentriX are industrial and IoT. We do have a couple automotive, but the mix there is richer towards industrial and IoT.

Avi Fisher

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Well, given that answer, sort of dig into that a little bit, and this press release you put out for NXP was fairly similar to one that secure things and IAR had put out a year or two ago. So can you talk a little bit about, is that a competitive market? Are you winning share? Are you both doing the same things?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Yes. I didn’t see a production partner in the release from the competitors that you mentioned a year ago. So I think maybe they’re not as similar as you might think. The cap – I mean the product is a similar family of products. It’s a very popular set of products. What we’ve been focused on is we got this customer because they came to us and they wanted a solution. So maybe they weren’t seeing what they wanted elsewhere, but the idea for them is they want to have a solution that fits into their manufacturing and supply chain strategy. A lot of people don’t want to change their supply chain strategy right now, because they’re concerned that if they do, they won’t get parts. So if you have a supply chain, you like and you’re getting parts and you have committed parts, you want to keep that. One of the benefits of SentriX is that there are 400 PSV systems out there that, that could theoretically be upgraded to SentriX. So you don’t have to change your supply chain strategy. You don’t have to change your manufacturing strategy. If you’re working with a great partner like Avnet, then you can continue to work with Avnet and they have SentriX capability to support you. You don’t have to go outside that supply chain. The other part is manufacturing friendly. The tools are well understood by Avnet. The whole process from gaining the customer understanding their security and crypto strategy to actually implementing it. We made a ton of improvements on that over the years. So I think what we saw was a customer that had an unmet need, we were able to take care of it. And if you look at some of the social media follow-up, I think both Avnet and NXP people were pretty excited to have the solution available.

Avi Fisher

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Okay. And just to clarify, Avnet the partner, the customer is unnamed, correct?

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

The customer is an OEM that is working through Avnet. Yes. We know who they are. Yes.

Avi Fisher

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

You know who they are. Of course. All right. The million dollar of deferred sales is that included in backlog?

Joel Hatlen

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

It is.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Is it backlog or is it inventory, Joel?

Joel Hatlen

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

It’s backlog and its inventory.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Okay.

Avi Fisher

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Okay. And one other quick one, you’ve press released two fairly high profile new Board members. And as an outside shareholder, I wonder if you could talk about some of the things that they’re bringing to the company that haven’t been done before and wondering as well as an outside shareholder if one of those things that haven’t done before is if they’ll be buying shares with the price currently so depressed.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Long Cast Advisers. Please go ahead.

Well, on the second one, I’ll let them speak for themselves on that. But message received. The – if you look at it, I think we’ve had a very good Board during my tenure here. And one of the key tenants of maintaining a good Board is maintaining some rotation. People, you need to get fresh ideas in from time to time. And it – there’s not a magic number. It’s just over time it becomes a great opportunity. Now we had a situation here where Mark Gallenberger, who’s been a fantastic Board member, he is retiring from his not only boards, but his day job. And so we had an opportunity and the skills we wanted to bring in after consultation with investors, with other people with my team, the officers here we wanted to bring in people that understood the manufacturing industry. We thought that that experience was very helpful and also some more in the software and internet area with some semiconductor background to understand the technology specifically around something like SentriX. So if you look at Ed Smith, he’s CEO of an EMS supplier that’s a big target market for us, not only for our data business, but the SentriX. And if you look at [indiscernible], her background in semiconductors and software I think is extremely helpful. So I think those are the skill sets we brought to the table. Experience in those areas and the technology was helpful.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Robert Anderson with Penbrook. Please go ahead.

Robert Anderson

Analyst · Penbrook. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon, Anthony and Joel.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Penbrook. Please go ahead.

Hi Bob.

Robert Anderson

Analyst · Penbrook. Please go ahead.

My question has been largely answered, but I wanted to because it was a question about Board members, but maybe you could go a little further and explain further why Mark Gallenberger resigned from the Board or plans to resign, I guess it’s not until May.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Penbrook. Please go ahead.

Yes. To be clear, Mark’s still a Board member and he’s just not standing for election for the slate on our shareholders meeting, which is the 19th. Joel?

Joel Hatlen

Analyst · Penbrook. Please go ahead.

Correct.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst · Penbrook. Please go ahead.

So yes, Mark’s just retired from his professional items. He – his day job as a CFO and also from the Board, so that that’s what’s to it.

Robert Anderson

Analyst · Penbrook. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this will conclude our question-and-answer section. I would like to turn the conference back over to Anthony Ambrose for any closing remarks.

Anthony Ambrose

Analyst

Thank you very much, operator. Before we close the call, I’d like to thank everyone for joining us today and their continued supportive Data I/O. We look forward to meeting with investors at the LD Micro event June 7 in Southern California and the Embedded World event in Germany, June 21 to 24. Also, as we mentioned, we do have our Annual Shareholders Meeting on the 19th of May. With that, I’d like to conclude today’s call. Thank you very much.

Joel Hatlen

Analyst

Please vote your shares.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.