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Dominion Energy, Inc. (D)

Q4 2006 Earnings Call· Wed, Jan 31, 2007

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Dominion's fourth quarter earnings conference call. We now have Mr. Tom Chewning, Dominion's Chief Financial Officer in conference. Please be aware that each of your lines is in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of Mr. Chewning's prepared remarks, we will open the floor for questions. At that time, instructions will be given as the procedure to follow should you want to ask a question. Before introducing Tom Chewning, I will turn the call over to Joe O'Hare, Director of Investor Relations. Joe O’Hare: Good morning, and welcome to Dominion's fourth quarter earnings call. Concurrent with our earnings announcement this morning, we have published several supplemental schedules on our website. We ask that you refer to those exhibits for certain historical quantitative results. From time to time during this call, we will refer to certain schedules included in our quarterly earnings release or to pages from our fourth quarter earnings release kit, both of which were posted this morning to Dominion's website. Our website address is www.dom.com/investors/ir.jsp. Let me start by providing the usual cautionary language. The earnings release and other matters that may be discussed on the call today contain forward-looking statements and estimates that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our SEC filings, included on our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q for a discussion of factors that may cause results to differ from management's projections, forecasts, estimates, and expectations. Also on this call, we will discuss the measures about our company's performance that differ from those recognized by GAAP. You can find a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to GAAP on our Investor Relations' website under GAAP reconciliation. I'll now turn the call over to Tom Chewning, our…

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Good morning. One of the messages we emphasize to employees and to the investment community is that safety, ethics, excellence, and one Dominion are critical values to our success. During 2006, each business unit performed well in all of these areas. Dominion Delivery, for example, improved their safety performance almost 30% year-over-year. Dominion Energy exceeded their compliance goals by 20% in areas that make us better operators, including in-line inspections and compressor station audits. Dominion E&P drilled a record number of wells in 2006, a 13% increase over 2005, and production rose 22%; while Generation maintained a nuclear fleet capacity factor of over 90% for the third year in a row. Success in the services company through cost reductions, such as medical expenses, and continuous process improvements through Six Sigma were key to our operating segment results. Collectively, this performance from all parts of the Company led to us exceed expectations. While your and our interest in our performance is primarily forward-looking, we are quite pleased with how well our 17,000 employees performed last year. While a past is not necessarily prologue, it is at least an indicator of the direction we are headed at Dominion and our ability to achieve our objectives. 2006 was not only an excellent year for us financially and operationally, it was a pivotal year for us strategically. We took four major steps to ensure future earnings stability and long-term value for our shareholders. We highlighted return on invested capital as a guiding principal in managing our businesses. Focusing on the risk-adjusted returns from individual assets across all business units is a fundamental approach to running Dominion that is here to stay. This philosophy led to us sell the Peoples and Hope gas distribution companies as well as the three peaking units. In November, we…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please go ahead.

Shneur Gershuni - UBS

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Good morning, everyone.

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Good morning.

Shneur Gershuni - UBS

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Just a couple of quick questions here. Just when we're reviewing the -- potential E&P sale and so forth, can you remind us of the tax rate that we should be applying from a tax leakage perspective? Joe O’Hare: Yes. Shneur, for modeling purposes, we have assumed 37%.

Shneur Gershuni - UBS

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Can I ask why it's so high? Why can't it be a lower rate? It seems like a high rate based on -- Joe O’Hare: If you're considering the gain in relation to a capital gain, there is no differentiation between a capital gain and an ordinary gain tax for corporations.

Tom Chewning

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

I think we can handle this a little bit more offline, but the -- it depends on the level of the final sale as to what our capital gain is, as well as items that can be deducted from that 37% rate. And we actually will pay less than 37% rate overall. On the last dollar, though, we will probably pay 37%. So I think, we can handle that offline if you don't mind, and that's just the highest rate we use, but our effective rate should be under 30%.

Shneur Gershuni - UBS

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Okay. That's great to know. I'll call Joe offline. Two other very tight, quick questions. Just with respect to reserves, you gave out the full reserves and so for would you be able to break out what Appalachia represents of that since those are the assets you plan to retain? Joe O’Hare: Yes, Shneur. Out of the 6.5, Appalachia is 1 trillion cubic feet equivalent.

Shneur Gershuni - UBS

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Great. And one final question. Just with respect to your hedging strategy going forward with respect to Generation given the pending sale of most of the E&P segment, do you plan to still continue doing so, or are doing so, rather?

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Yes. We plan to continue the hedging strategy we've followed.

Shneur Gershuni - UBS

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Great. Thank you very much. That's the -- some of my questions.

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Paul Ridzon with KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead.

Paul Ridzon - KeyBanc

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Good morning. How are you?

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Hi, Paul.

Tom Chewning

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Good morning.

Paul Ridzon - KeyBanc

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Just some background on what drove your decision not to sell State Line. Was it evaluations you were seeing in the market, or was there a change in your strategy around that plant?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

It was really valuation in the market. We have a six-year contract left with the counterparty there, and we saw a different value than the several bidders that actually put final bids in for us.

Paul Ridzon - KeyBanc

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

And then just on your quarter-over-quarter reconciliation, there was $0.09 of other. Can you give a little more granularity around that $0.09?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Paul, that's going to be individually business by business. If we could talk about that after the call, I would appreciate that.

Paul Ridzon - KeyBanc

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

And then just lastly, just kind of get a sense of commitment to take what level of the proceeds from the E&P sale are going to be taken to the balance sheet to shrink it? And what you're seeing opportunistically as potential other uses?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

I think we gave you the credit metrics that we would manage to. And our first dollars will go to get to those credit metrics. There's no percentage of proceeds that we're using. It's a dollar amount that we believe and we take the reduced risk profile of the Company will get us to those three credit metrics. With the one that we've given today, which was a 20% FFO to total debt, which we had not supplied earlier. and I think that that's all that we've given and want to give on that subject and obviously people come up with different answers, but we certainly don't have a percentage of proceeds and obviously part of that is because we don't know what proceeds will be. But our first dollar is to get us to a firm BBB or high BBB credit, which these metrics ought to do.

Paul Ridzon - KeyBanc

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Okay. Great. And just -- sorry -- that was not my last question. Could you give the 4P prior and current, stripping out Appalachia?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Stripping out Appalachia, is what the question was, Joe, 4P. Joe O’Hare: Right.

Tom Chewning

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

5 to 10 is the prior and 25 is now total. Joe O’Hare: Right. And my recollection, Paul, is that we didn't identify 4P in Appalachia. I'm not sure that that is really the measure. I think its all non-Appalachia.

Paul Ridzon - KeyBanc

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Okay.

Duane Radtke

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Joe, this is Duane. That's correct. It's mostly non-Appalachia.

Paul Ridzon - KeyBanc

Analyst · KeyBanc. Sir, please go ahead

Great. Thank you again.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question, sir. Our next question comes from Hugh Wynne of Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Hugh Wynne - Sanford Bernstein

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

Good morning. I just had a couple of questions that I would like to have answered in order to reconcile 2006 results to the expected results of the remaining utility businesses going forward after the E&P sale. Could you all tell me the after-tax earnings of Peoples and Hope in 2006?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

I don't have that information available, Hugh. I can research that, and we can talk about it after the call.

Hugh Wynne - Sanford Bernstein

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

All right. What was the after-tax fuel cost under recovery at Fedco in 2006?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

It was $364 million.

Hugh Wynne - Sanford Bernstein

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

$364 million after-tax. Great. Are you still expecting $970 million from the Peoples and Hope sale? And is that an after-tax number or --?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

Yes. Joe O’Hare: Well, that was an agreed contract price subject to adjustments for CapEx and working capital changes.

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

That's right. But we expect that to be -- we haven't changed any part of that agreement, and we did have that as an after-tax number.

Hugh Wynne - Sanford Bernstein

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

So $970 after-tax for Dominion -- for Peoples and Hope sale. Okay. And I guess the final question, is there any significant reduction in corporate overhead expected from the sale of the E&P business?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

No.

Hugh Wynne - Sanford Bernstein

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Jonathan Arnold with Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead.

Jonathan Arnold - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

Sir, good morning, everyone. Joe O’Hare: Good morning.

Jonathan Arnold - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

Good morning. Just wanted to ask again about these credit metric targets and most to the new one you've introduced. And, Tom, I'm thinking about -- are you intending to hit all of them or most of them, or should we be modeling to actually hit all three of them? I just find it a little difficult to reconcile those numbers.

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

Well, obviously, one will be more important than another if you do your math, but I'm going to let Scott Hetzer for a broader answer in terms of whether we should hit them right away or not.

Scott Hetzer

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

Yes. Jonathan. The FFO to debt is generally the constraint that we hit first, and as far as -- we mentioned these are near-term targets. Our long-term targets would be FFO to debt of mid-20s, FFO to interest of 4.2 times, and debt to cap of 50% or less. For the near-term coming out of the divestiture, we'd like to be at right around 20% FFO to debt based on what we see as the risk profile of the Company going forward. But that FFO to debt is generally the constraint.

Jonathan Arnold - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

So that's the one we should focus most on?

Scott Hetzer

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

I think so.

Jonathan Arnold - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

And we're talking about 2008 numbers here?

Scott Hetzer

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

That is correct.

Jonathan Arnold - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

And dose potentially change in the event that you say with E&P gone and a more regulated business in Virginia maybe that your business position somehow shifts, would you see these targets as something that could change over time?

Scott Hetzer

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

Certainly we expect the risk position to shift with the divestiture, and I think the rating agencies have commented that that's their expectation. So we're currently a seven, we certainly think that we will move to a six with a potential sale -- with the sale of E&P, and then we'd have to look at any other risk-producing activities, such as the potential Virginia legislation. That could help reduce the risk further, and we would need to take that into account as well.

Jonathan Arnold - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

So would you consider these targets to be where you'd want to be if you were at a 7 or if you'd already moved to a 6?

Scott Hetzer

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

These are considered the targets for a 6.

Jonathan Arnold - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your questions, Mr. Arnold. Our next question comes from Leslie Rich with Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead.

Leslie Rich - Columbia Management

Analyst · Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead

Yes, I had a question on the State Line. And -- you know, did you allude to incremental spending there to get that compliant in terms of environmental regulations, or -- I'm not sure I heard exactly what you said there.

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead

Leslie, the reference there really was we have some tube work to do in that unit and some terminal work to do in the next couple years. It will amount to about $45 million. We don't see any significant environmental expenditures this decade.

Leslie Rich - Columbia Management

Analyst · Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead

Okay. So that's already meeting all the mercury rules and that plant is in Illinois, right?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead

That plant is in compliance right now.

Leslie Rich - Columbia Management

Analyst · Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead

Okay. Great. Thanks.

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

In Indiana.

Leslie Rich - Columbia Management

Analyst · Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead

It's in Indiana, sorry.

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

It's on the line next to Illinois.

Leslie Rich - Columbia Management

Analyst · Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead

Hope the wind blows east, right?

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Well, that's why it's called State Line.

Leslie Rich - Columbia Management

Analyst · Columbia Management. Ma'am, please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Sam Brothwell with Wachovia. Please go ahead.

Sam Brothwell - Wachovia

Analyst · Wachovia. Please go ahead

Hi. Good morning. Could you quickly step through the update to the reserve breakdown again? And secondly, I just wanted to clarify, did I hear you say that the overall tax rate that you would apply in doing the proceeds calculation that the average rate would be 30% or less?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · Wachovia. Please go ahead

I'll answer that. This is Tom Chewning. I'll -- Sam, I'll answer the last part of it. It certainly depends on the level of gross proceeds. Incrementally, the last dollars we'll receive in our calculations, 35% federal and 2 state. However, you know, within a fairly wide band of potential proceeds, that number is reduced by credits that we have, any NOLs, et cetera. So in looking at our cost basis, which is fairly low, as you know, and looking at other shelters we have, we would expect to be somewhere in the 27 to 30% range overall or a wide range of values, but how you model it is your business. As we've said before, we do have some tax credits we're going to realize, but we also have the ability to use tax losses created by the sale of the peakers and other such situations where we create tax losses to help offset the tax that we'd have on the capital gain. So we're estimating, you know, if you wanted to use 30%, that's probably a pretty good proxy overall or you can do it with a lower rate for the first part and a higher rate for the latter part.

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

On the yearend reserves, the proved reserves, and this is as audited by Ryder Scott, as of the end of '06, 6.53. 6.53 trillion cubic feet equivalent. That's about a 4% increase over '05. Prior estimates at the end of '05 for the 2P, the probable, was 2 tcfe. Yearend '06 is 3.2 tcfe. The possible or 3P in '05 was 3.2. At the end of '06, it is 3.9. And then the so-called 4P was a range of 5 to 10. It's now estimated at 25. Joe O’Hare: Okay. Sam, we intend to post on our website the base and detail of 3P reserves. So that'll be available after the call.

Sam Brothwell - Wachovia

Analyst · Wachovia. Please go ahead

Very good. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your questions, sir. Our next question comes from Dan Eggers with Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead.

Dan Eggers - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead

Hi. Good morning.

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Good morning.

Dan Eggers - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead

I don't know if Duane is still on the line, but if he could comment on F&D costs in '06 versus '05 and kind of trend if there's anything to note between onshore offshore?

Duane Radtke

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead

Sure, Dan. In the -- in the forecasts that we had given earlier in the year, we had said somewhere around $2.30 on F&D costs. Our ultimate F&D costs wound up around $2.40, a little over that. And the drivers were certainly the costs. It was a little bit on the high end on the F&D, but part of it was at the end of the year, because of performance -- positive performance that we saw in a lot of our areas, we booked additional PUDs, so we had more reserve adds than we had forecast at the beginning of the year. They came in higher than the embedded DD&A rate. So the overall F&D costs went up a little bit, but it was good because we added reserves.

Dan Eggers - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead

Okay. Did you guys include the frontrunner impairment that Norsk Hydro had talked about in your reserve numbers?

Duane Radtke

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead

We always do. And, again, we can't comment as to what Norsk Hydro had booked or allocated in value to frontrunner, but we have historically always had fewer reserves on our books. And we have had no significant change to our reserves or forecast.

Dan Eggers - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead

I got it. On the Virginia progression of events there, is there any way for you to get recovery or seek recovery for the fuel shortfall you guys have encountered over the last couple of years, by way of cost incurred and an attempt to go to market that is no longer going to happen? Thomas Farrell: No.

Dan Eggers - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead

So that's money under the bridge. Thomas Farrell: Yes.

Dan Eggers - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Sir, please go ahead

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Faisal Kahn with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Faisal Kahn - Citigroup

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead

Good morning. I'm just wondering on -- with regards to your Appalachia Acreage, have you guys looked at some of the horizontal drilling successes some of the producers in the area have had?

Duane Radtke

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead

Faisal, this is Duane. Yes. We've actually tried a few horizontals in a couple of areas and not had -- have not had significant success, but it's certainly something we're going to continue to look at. Most of what we're doing there is traditional work as well as some additional coal bed methane projects.

Faisal Kahn - Citigroup

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead

Okay. And then I read somewhere in a trade publication that you had some success in drilling in these Alabama Shales, whether it’s the Floyd or the Conasauga. Can you comment on that, have you drilled any test wells and have you had any success in some of those shales?

Duane Radtke

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead

We have drilled some test wells there. We've had mixed results. It is part of the potential reserves that Tom quoted earlier. It is very thick shales. We still need to see operationally how to drill it and complete the wells. It's in a very early stage.

Faisal Kahn - Citigroup

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead

Okay. And then when you talk about the 25 tcf of this petroleum -- potential petroleum resources, is -- where are most of those potential reserves located, would you say?

Duane Radtke

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead

Most are onshore. About 60% are onshore in various basins, and a lot of it is driven by some of our new projects in the shales projects and additional gas factory-type assets that we're developing, and about 40% of it is offshore. And of course, it's driven by the deep water exploration that we have in our program.

Faisal Kahn - Citigroup

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead

Okay. Great. Thanks for the time.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Raymond Leung, Bear Stearns. Sir, please go ahead.

Raymond Leung - Bear Stearns

Analyst

Thank you. Probably a question for Scott Hetzer here. Scott, can you prioritize those three credit metrics? I guess, is FFO to total debt the one you target in terms of looking at the balance sheet and can you talk about near-term, long-term, what's that time line? Three years, five years?

Scott Hetzer

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

I would say in terms of prioritization, the FFO to debt is the most important, and then I'd say FFO to interest, and then third, debt to cap. As far as near-term, I said coming out of the divestiture, that's what we define as near term. A year or two out of the divestiture. And then for longer term, I'd say three to five years.

Raymond Leung - Bear Stearns

Analyst

Okay.

Scott Hetzer

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Sir, please go ahead

And of course, we do expect continued improvement over the next several years as we exercise the plan. So we see strength in the years following the divestiture.

Raymond Leung - Bear Stearns

Analyst

Okay. Great. And just a question on tax NOLs or offsets. Have you sort of reaped everything you have, and do you have an updated number on NOLs yet, or do I have to wait for the 10-K?

Steve Rogers

Analyst

This is Steve Rogers. I think it's probably best to wait for the 10-K. But I will tell you that a lot of the NOLs and things like that that we disclosed in our 10-K last year -- excuse me -- got used in operations in 2006. But I think it's probably best to wait for that and as we continue to look at tax profile of any potential deal and some things that come out as a result of our asset review, you know, obviously we will update numbers and update our forecast.

Tom Chewning

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

I think it's important, here, too, to not just isolate the sale. The real question is what cash does Dominion have after it pays down debt to buyback stock or make superior investments. So if we happen to have a higher cash flow now and higher cash balances et, cetera, it really makes no difference whether we create them through higher earnings in the near-term or through this sale. So we're not unhappy if we applied a few more NOLs. And we have developed a few others, and I don't know that we won't develop a few more in the future, but those certainly cannot be predicted.

Raymond Leung - Bear Stearns

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question, sir. Next question comes from Dan Jenkins with The State of Wisconsin Investments. Please go ahead.

Dan Jenkins - State of Wisconsin Investments

Analyst · The State of Wisconsin Investments. Please go ahead

Good morning.

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Good morning.

Dan Jenkins - State of Wisconsin Investments

Analyst · The State of Wisconsin Investments. Please go ahead

On the Virginia fuel clause that's going to go in effect July 1, how much of an increase is that to customer's bills? Do you have a sense of --?

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

Yes. It has not yet been estimated. We won't file that case until late in the spring, and we will be taking a look at the forward markets at the time.

Dan Jenkins - State of Wisconsin Investments

Analyst · The State of Wisconsin Investments. Please go ahead

Okay. Could you give a little more color on, you know the legislation proposed? Would it be just essentially back to full regulation like you had before? And will it cause any impact on your Generation fleet?

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

It's -- I would -- it's not -- the proposed legislation is not all the way back to traditional cost of service regulation. It has incentives in it to meet the needs Virginia has to increase our baseload generating fleet. It has a variety of consumer protection measures in it, rate stability measures. It has a lot of very progressive thinking in coming up with a regulatory model that will meet the needs of our customers and the state.

Dan Jenkins - State of Wisconsin Investments

Analyst · The State of Wisconsin Investments. Please go ahead

Okay. Then on the State Line plant, I think you mentioned, you still have six years left on the contract for the output of that plant. How does the price of that contract compare to the recent auction in Illinois of about $65 a megawatt? Is it significantly less than that, or how does that compare to what the current marketplace is? Joe O’Hare: We don't disclose any contract information with the account authorities.

Dan Jenkins - State of Wisconsin Investments

Analyst · The State of Wisconsin Investments. Please go ahead

Okay. And then I was wondering if you -- is your proposed environmental CapEx, has that changed any going forward? Do you see that as -- a lot of utilities have raised the amount that they think they're going to have to spend. I was wondering if you could update us on that?

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

We don't have any change in that. Remember, Dominion has spent most of it. We went ahead and started complying in the early part of the decade. We didn't try to fight off the regulators.

Dan Jenkins - State of Wisconsin Investments

Analyst · The State of Wisconsin Investments. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question, sir. Our next question comes from Rebecca Followill with Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead.

Rebecca Followill - Howard Weil

Analyst · Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead

Hi. Duane, question for you. What percent of the reserves at year end 2006 were PDP versus PUDs?

Duane Radtke

Analyst · Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead

I believe the final number was right at 27%, Rebecca.

Rebecca Followill - Howard Weil

Analyst · Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead

20% PUDs?

Duane Radtke

Analyst · Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead

27% PUDs.

Rebecca Followill - Howard Weil

Analyst · Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead

Okay.

Duane Radtke

Analyst · Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead

Which is in-line to what we've historically held, somewhere between 25 and 30 is what we normally run.

Rebecca Followill - Howard Weil

Analyst · Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead

Right. And next question, assuming that everything is blanched up in Virginia, how quickly would we see you guys announce a new build program?

Tom Farrell

President and CEO

We're -- we have a variety of plans under consideration. We're not going to wait and see what happens. We're -- we're looking at it, and we will come out with something once we see how the regulatory issues work themselves out.

Rebecca Followill - Howard Weil

Analyst · Howard Weil. Madam, please go ahead

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question, madam. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of our allotted time. Mr. Chewning, do you have any closing remarks?

Tom Chewning

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Yes, Lindsay. Thank you. Just a reminder that our Forms 10-K will be filed with the SEC on or before March 1st and our first quarter earnings release is scheduled for Wednesday, May the 2nd, of this year. I like to thank everybody for joining us this morning. Please enjoy a safe, healthy winter. Good day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference. You may now disconnect your lines at this time. And please have a wonderful day.