Robert Blum
Analyst · Charles Duncan with Piper Jaffray
Yes, I'll start and then ask Andy as well to join in. When you said folks were disappointed, I am assuming with regard to results from VITALITY-ALS, surely we were disappointed as well. But a couple of things to note about that trial and now that we've had some time and distance from that trial while why we read more optimistically for reldesemtiv. We've been pouring over a lot of additional analysis, some prespecified and others post hock analysis with respect to that trial. And there are couple of things that stand out. One is clearly the tolerability issues with tirasemtiv confounded the interpretation of those results when looked at on an intent to treat basis, we had only a modest treatment effect observed with tirasemtiv versus placebo and that was clearly disappointing and not sufficient for submission to regulatory authorities, but at least encouraging enough that there was some activity there that bore further investigation. When you look at the as treated population and recognizing about 1/3 of the patients, we're not able to continue their treatment and dropped out based on mostly mild tolerability issues, but still sufficiently a nuisance that they dropped out. When you look at the as treated population, we saw a borderline statistically significant effect that was durable over time. And that suggest to us that there is a biologic activity for this mechanism of action and as we've talked to investigators in between me, Fady and Andy and others here at the company, we visited over 50 different clinical centers participating in FORTITUDE-ALS in this first quarter. And as we had conversation after conversation, it was extremely encouraging that mechanistically the sites see benefit in merit to the approach we're taking with reldesemtiv recognizing that it should be more well tolerated and also potentially more potent. And as such, I think there is enthusiasm because this is a compound for which mechanistically there is over 1,000 patients that have been studied in ALS and we've seen consistent effects that bore out for this approach. That's uncommon in ALS and as much as generally speaking in clinical trials we've known very little about the mechanism and how it may translate to a therapeutic effect given how little we know about the etiology of this disease. So given all of that, I'd say relative to other clinical trials, there is more support, more interest, more enthusiasm for this trial than is the case otherwise and we're hopefully going to be in a position to enroll adequate numbers of patients. This will be a roughly 450 patients study that by itself is larger than most Phase III studies in neuromuscular diseases and this Phase II trial really should inform what we hope will be support for movement into Phase III. The other thing to mention is in our VITALITY-ALS trial, we had a slower than expected decline in those patients who received standard of care in placebo, and that's something that we're still trying to get our arms around. Some data were presented today at AAN from another sponsor baring out that the placebo event rate in studies with ALS is different in 2018 than perhaps it was in 2015 and 2016. The good news is, we believe we have even as that may be the case in the FORTITUDE study, adequate to power to bear out the expectations and the therapeutic hypothesis, but it's a dynamic space that we are staying very close to and as such, I think the FORTITUDE-ALS study is amongst the clinical researchers, the most important study that should read out this year.