Martin Kropelnicki
Analyst
It's interesting to asked that question. This week, we had our persons in charge of water quality out in one of the states that we operate in, giving a presentation to commissioners about what does PFOS, PFOA mean. And the good news is we got really good feedback that they love what we're doing, but they said, wow, what are all these small systems in our state going to do? So I think you're starting to see an awakening that there's going to be a huge capital requirement in some of these small systems that are probably undercapitalized and lack liquidity, and I think that will play to our benefit. The other thing in talking to our Head of Business Development, Shilen Patel, interfaces have been higher, the cost of capital has been up and seller expectations have remained pretty high. We're starting to see the seller expectations soften up a little bit, which is nice. And in the case of the deal I mentioned, the Kings Mountain, we actually purchased that system for $1, right, because the company just -- that they couldn't -- weren't the best operators. It requires capital. We have the ability to put that capital in the system, improve their service levels. And more importantly, it allows us to connect kind of the 3 systems and get that synergy of operating the 3 systems and those 3 sources of supply. So I think you're starting to see a little bit more movement in that area. Now business development M&A, right, in the water space just moved slow. How fast of a catalyst will it be? I think that's to be determined. I think the larger IOUs are held to a very, very high standard on water quality. And if we miss any new requirements, they fine the heck out of us. But I think, generally speaking, the EPA has a hard time enforcing those standards with private small companies that just aren't registering. And I think that piece will be interesting to watch. But certainly, we're seeing a softening of expectations with sellers, and I think we're starting to see a little bit more activity in small systems as the PFAS PFOA requirements come into play. And I think it's really important to keep talking about those new requirements, what does that mean and why they're important.