Christopher Farkas
Analyst · Truist Securities.
Yes, these are really unusual times, Mike. I mean I feel like -- we were talking about this the other day, back in 2020 when the pandemic hit, I mean, people stopped providing guidance and we tried to reinitiate as soon as we can to try to help guide people through the circumstance. And this supply chain issue that everyone is facing right now, and we're particularly facing within Defense Electronics extremely dynamic. So what we've been trying to do, which we haven't normally done in the past is provide you and the rest of our investors with additional information to help you understand what we're seeing on a quarterly basis. So you saw it last time on the call, we tried to provide the guides from a few different angles here to let you know what we're seeing. And when we were in February, we did expect that sales would be down. And overall, as we look at the reported revenues for A&I and Defense Electronics, I mean, they were fairly in line with what we had expected. I'd say plus or 2 -- plus or minus $2 million. At that time, in February, we also said that we expected those segments to be down around 14%. And yes, we realized that those are lower margins than those businesses have seen in quite some time. But at that point, we explained it as really 2 things. One, the volumes were going to be down in Q1, mainly in Defense Electronics, mainly because of what was happening in the supply chain. But then also the continued push of lower-margin system sales out from Q4 into Q1. We did expect that we were going to have a little bit of a different mix year in Q1 with those lower-margin system sales, but they continue to push out. So was it better than expected? Yes, it was. We came in above 16% in the Defense Electronics segment. But it's not something that we would characterize as anything else than just timing and moving out into a future quarter. Now as we look at what happened within Naval & Power, last year, in the first quarter, there was a small favorable naval contract adjustment, nothing very big. But we also knew with the timing of the CAP1000 program and production here in the first quarter on that very profitable program that we would be down. And those margins came in fairly well in alignment with what we're expecting. So we are sharpening the pencil. We're trying to give you the best look that we can, considering what's happening in volume and absorption, considering what's happening here within mix in a few of our businesses, and we hope that, that helps you guys as you approach Q2 and the rest of the year.