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Commvault Systems, Inc. (CVLT)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, Jan 25, 2022

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Operator

Operator

00:05 Good day, and welcome to Commvault Q3 Fiscal Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there'll be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. 00:31 I'd now like to turn the call over to Michael Melnyk, Investor Relations. You may begin.

Michael Melnyk

Analyst

00:37 Good morning and welcome to our earnings conference call. I'm Michael Melnyk, and I'm joined by Sanjay Mirchandani, Commvault's CEO; and Brian Carolan, Commvault's CFO. 00:47 Statements made on today's call will include forward-looking statements about Commvault future expectations, plans, and prospects. All such forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Please refer to the cautionary language in today's earnings release and Commvault's most recent periodic reports filed with the SEC for a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to be materially different from those contemplated in these forward-looking statements. Commvault does not assume any obligation to update these statements. 01:19 During this call, Commvault's financial results are presented on a non-GAAP basis. A reconciliation between the non-GAAP and GAAP measures can be found on our website. 01:29 Thank you again for joining us. I'll now turn it over to Sanjay for his remarks. Sanjay?

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst

01:35 Thanks, Mike. Good morning, and thank you for joining us to discuss our fiscal third quarter results. Our team executed well in this breakout quarter and the headlines speak for themselves. Software and products revenue meaningfully outpaced the market growth rate, increasing 11% year-over-year to a record $99 million. We exceeded $200 million in quarterly total revenue for the first time in company history. And non-GAAP EBIT was a record $43 million. 02:05 While proud of these results, I'm even more excited about the quality of the metrics that underpin our financials and our accelerated journey to a cloud-first recurring revenue model. 81% of total revenue was recurring in nature, compared to 74% a year ago. Total ARR grew 11% year-over-year to $561 million. Subscription and SaaS ARR grew 45% year-over-year to $309 million and now represents 55% of total ARR. 02:38 We had the best quarter for new customer additions in years, including several Fortune 500 wins. We've moved nearly 2.5 exabytes of customer data to the cloud, representing approximately a five time growth in the past three years. And Metallic continue to set new financial and operating milestones. 03:00 We could not have achieved these milestones without the hard work and dedication of our employees worldwide. We also remain optimistic about Q4 and beyond for several reasons. First, we're winning and taking share. Our core software is performing well, with software and products revenue growing 13% when adjusted for pass through appliance revenue. 03:22 And in aligning with customers' consumption patterns, subscriptions represented a record 71% of software and products revenue. We're seeing broader product adoption with new and existing customers across every single product category and are setting all-time highs with HyperScale X. This is largely because we support the broadest workloads and provide the security,…

Brian Carolan

Analyst

08:50 Thanks, Sanjay. And good morning, everyone. Hope you had a chance to review the results we released this morning. I will briefly recap and provide some additional color on the quarter. 08:59 In fiscal Q3 '22, we reported total revenue of $202 million, an increase of 8% year-over-year. Q3 marked the first time in company history that we exceeded $200 million in quarterly revenue, a milestone for Commvault. Software and products revenue increased 11% year-over-year to approximately $99 million. As a reminder, in FY ‘22, we've moved primarily to a software-only model. 09:31 In Q3, software-only growth, excluding appliance pass through revenue, was approximately 13% year-over-year. Revenue from software transactions over $100,000 increased 24% year-over-year and represented a record 76% of software revenue. The volume of these transactions grew 20% year-over-year and the average deal size increased 3% to approximately $332,000. 10:04 As Sanjay noted, we closed numerous 7-figure deals in the quarter. In Q3, we had the highest number of new customer additions in years across all products, driven by our Americas and EMEA regions. In addition to our new customer success, business from existing customers reached an all-time high during the quarter. Taken together, the pace of both new and existing business further validates the success of our emerging land and expand motion. 10:36 Let me now discuss our accelerating transition to a recurring revenue based model. Third quarter subscription software revenue increased 45% year-over-year to approximately $70 million. Subscription licenses represented 71% of total software revenue, an increase from 63% last quarter and 55% a year ago. We are clearly benefiting from the tailwinds of our subscription transition and our growing recurring revenue model. 11:09 Total annual recurring revenue, or ARR, increased 11% year-over-year to approximately $561 million. On a constant currency basis, ARR was up…

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst

16:28 Thank you, Brian. The past few years have been anything but normal. While the ongoing pandemic and the unpredictability in the supply chain continues to create uncertainty, we've adapted and delivered results. Yet, as data continues to grow in both quantity and importance, so too has the need to secure and protect that data. This is our sweet spot. Our message is resonating in the market and our products are making a difference for our customers. We are excited by the opportunity and confident in our path forward. 17:01 With that, I'll open the call up to Q&A. Operator?

Operator

Operator

17:06 [Operator Instructions] [Technical Difficulty]

Jason Ader

Analyst

17:27 [Technical Difficulty] Are there situations where a salesperson is struggling to figure out what fits best or is it pretty -- are the lines of demarcation pretty clear in terms of use cases?

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst

17:40 I think it's very clear. We've got a very clear playbook. Metallic supports mostly different workloads, Office 365, endpoints, containers, cloud-native applications. And there's a little overlap on VMs because we want to give customers that flexibility. But I'd say to you that most of the workloads and most of the work we do with Metallic is incremental, complementary. 18:09 The power of AND, just bother on that question, the power of AND, our ability to give customers value on both our on-premise and through Metallic is increasing. Roughly, I think about over 40%, 41% of our bookings had more than one product. Okay. And that includes HyperScale, that includes Metallic, different products.

Jason Ader

Analyst

18:32 Got it. And then just a follow-up for Brian, kind of along those lines. Do you have a sense of, let's say, this fiscal '22, how much of a headwind to your growth has come from the shift to more ratable rev rec, so not just Metallic, but also kind of more activity with MSPs where you would have had kind of an upfront rev rec, but that shifted over to ratable?

Brian Carolan

Analyst

19:02 I think it's somewhat marginal at this point, Jason. As Sanjay said, it's really complimentary at this point. Anytime you're investing in a SaaS business, it's going to have a headwind in terms of the in-period recognizable revenue. But by and large, this has been very much of power of both succeeding together in the market and we're not seeing it as a huge headwind.

Jason Ader

Analyst

19:26 All right. Thank you very much. Good luck.

Operator

Operator

19:32 Our next question comes from Aaron Rakers with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

19:38 Yeah. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the quarter. A couple from me as well. I guess, the first question is, as we look at the setup in the quarter and obviously impacting what was the September quarter as well, you guys have discussed some supply chain challenges impacting some deal closures and just the ability to deploy at some of the customers. Where do we stand today? Has that lifted out of the narrative with the customers? Or is there still some conservatism going into the March quarter guidance based on those dynamics?

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

20:14 Like we said last quarter, we sort of saw the supply chain headwind increasing over the course of our second quarter. So it wasn't -- it happened over time. And when we spoke in October we sort of said, we're going to land where we said we were going to land, because there were ongoing risks that we were trying to normalize for. 20:32 I think what we've done this quarter, Aaron, is we've really got ahead of it, we're managing it well, the team is executing, the products are working well because customers are using the power of AND, and in some cases using the cloud directly. So we're seeing -- I'm not saying we're out of it, but I'm saying we've -- at least in our pipeline management we've normalized for it.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

20:51 Okay. Just couple other quick questions. On the Metallic business, I mean, I think it was $309 million that you disclosed on the subscription and SaaS ARR. It looks like, based on how we kind of think about the ramp of Metallic from a revenue standpoint, you saw very, very strong quarter. I think you actually introduced or commenced availability of Metallic in October in Asia-Pac. So I'm curious, is there any way for us to kind of think about the SaaS component of that subscription and SaaS ARR momentum that you're seeing? How do we think about that piece, because Metallic becomes a much more visible growth driver as we move forward?

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

21:35 I mean, in all honesty, we're really pleased with the progress we're making with Metallic. The rev ramp is, I call it, hyper-growth. And that's how I think about it. There is a strong demand on SaaS from customers, enterprise grade SaaS, not necessarily in lieu of on-premise, but in most cases with on-premise. So the power of AND is very important. We are the only ones that do this. It's a big contributor. Like I think Brian and I both said, it's -- the subscription and SaaS ARR is a 45% growth year-on-year and 55% of the total. So it's handsome. 22:12 Now, we're not unwrapping the numbers just yet. And like I said earlier, we'll call out more specifics over time. Right now we're just focused on doing everything we can to grow this business as fast as we can.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

22:27 Okay. And then the final quick question is, going back to the Analyst Day early part of 2021, you outlined kind of some growth expectations, both total revenue as well software and then also progression of EBIT, I believe, towards into that mid 20% range, correct me if I'm wrong, I think out for 2024 fiscal year. Brian, just curious, I mean, any thoughts, are you sticking by that at this point? Any thoughts relative to what was outlined a year ago?

Brian Carolan

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

22:58 Hey, good morning, Aaron. Yeah, as you know that, back in January of 2021, that was a two-year perspective we gave and I think that -- we've proven that. We're tracking towards those targets, especially on revenue and software growth and in particular, ARR is ahead of those targets. We've also done a sizable amount of share repurchases that are well ahead of what we messaged. We're focused on balancing growth and profitability at the same time. 23:25 We said Rule of 32 in a couple of years, I think we're approaching now the Rule of 30. If you combine that just a couple of years ago, we were at a Rule of 9. So we've made substantial progress since then. And we're focused on that. The mix might change a little bit between growth and margin, but our direction absolutely does not change, we're driving towards that combination. And right now we believe ARR is a great metric to measure ourselves. We will continue to manage ARR growth while investing in the businesses, such as Metallic. And leave it at that.

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

23:57 I just want to add one comment. Our core software business is healthy. It's growing, we're taking share. And that was the first bullet I sort of enumerated in my comments earlier. And that is allowing us to really fuel and grow Metallic. Okay. And so, as new workloads happen in the cloud, aboard in the cloud, moved to the cloud, we're all over it. And it's the combination that's causing customers to give us a serious look and to adopt us, because it's a no-compromise architecture. This is sort of a really important way to think about it. It's not where one is forking into the other. They are working together, complementary, power of AND to really deliver the value.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

24:42 Thank you, guys.

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

24:43 Welcome.

Operator

Operator

24:47 Our next question comes from James Fish with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

James Fish

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

24:53 Hey, guys, thanks for the question. Great quarter. Kind of going off of Aaron's question there, because I think they are important. Brian, you made the comment there about the mix may be changing a little bit behind growth in margin, but you're driving towards that Rule 32 or so. I guess, why not invest for more growth at this point, especially on the Metallic side where you're just seeing tremendous success and kind of takedown margins for fiscal '23 and potentially the out years?

Brian Carolan

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

25:24 Hey, good morning, James. Good to hear from you. Yeah, I mean, the good news is that, Metallic is experiencing hyper-growth. I mean, you're seeing that, the key driver of ARR, the market is moving in that direction, customers are demanding enterprise scale SaaS solutions. We believe we have the early-mover advantage. And really a differentiator for us is the power of both Commvault software and our SaaS offerings. 25:48 And I think it's well known that when you're dealing with SaaS margins, they are going to look a little different from software margins. We understand those dynamics. We're working hard to get to economies of scale and we'll call out more specifics in due course, but we're squarely focused on growing both top and bottom.

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

26:07 I'll just jump in here. At no point have we compromised the growth of Metallic. I mean, Metallic has been something we've been sharing with you over the past like, I don't know, six, seven quarters. And it's a business we're very happy with. It's a business that we're investing in. It's a business that leans in very nicely with our core. Our sales force knows how to take both of them to market. Our partners love it. MSPs are adopting it. So we are investing in it. 26:36 And we've done a lot of investment. And just our Q4 guidance, for example, approximates about 20% of FY '22 EBIT margin, that's up 700 basis points from fiscal year '20. Okay. And that's up roughly 900 basis points since fiscal year '18. So we're delivering the results. We're growing ARR, which is a key metric for us. Okay. And we're delivering a healthy EBIT margin, so -- and growing it. And as Brian said, a couple of years ago and the Rule of X, we were at 9. Okay. So on all fronts, we are investing. We're making -- we are hopefully making the right choices, and most importantly, customers are embracing it.

James Fish

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

27:24 It makes sense, guys. And maybe on the go-to-market aspect of it, I mean, great quarter on the top line. You might have spent some of the upside in SG&A and, Brian, you gave us some details there. But has there been a change in the incentives for the sales force to sell more subscriptions on Metallic? Or is it just a factor of investing behind the growth overall and adding more headcount?

Sanjay Mirchandani

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

27:50 Without giving too much away, our results are commensurate with how we are prioritizing things for the field, whether it be compensation playbooks focused product. The good news is, when you've got something that the customers appreciate, it makes things better. So everything is aligned hopefully in that direction.

James Fish

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

28:15 Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

28:20 Our next question comes from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street. Your line is open.

Eric Martinuzzi

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

28:25 Yeah. I wanted to delve into the buyback. I understand that you guys were pretty aggressive here, and actually exceeded the original outlook. At the Board level have we talked about kind of a reload or a new plan given that we've exceeded the one that we laid out a year ago?

Brian Carolan

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

28:45 Yeah. Good morning, Eric. It's Brian here. Yeah, we laid that out in January of 2021. The commitment was $200 million, plus 75% of free cash flow starting in FY '22. And that's the plan we're executing against right now.

Eric Martinuzzi

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

29:04 Okay. Maybe I'm not following here because --

Brian Carolan

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

29:09 There is no change to that plan, Eric. There is no immediate change to that plan.

Eric Martinuzzi

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

29:14 Okay. So, we should anticipate a smaller number in the current quarter?

Brian Carolan

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

29:19 We will be opportunistic and we committed to 75% of free cash flow moving forward.

Eric Martinuzzi

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

29:28 Okay. All right. And then, I had a question regarding the large deal pricing, specifically pricing on renewals. You guys now have -- you are into your second year of renewals on the installed base and I was wondering how that pricing discussions has been going?

Brian Carolan

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

29:47 Well, I think we've been pleased with the performance that we've seen on our renewal business. And as we've been forecasting that, this is now a tailwind for us as a company. But I'd like to emphasize that it's not just about the renewal. It's very much of a complementary motion for us. Its land, adopt, expand and renew. All those things have to kind of work in conjunction with one another and we're often seeing that that's opening up more and more conversations. 30:14 In fact, we're seeing at the time of renewal it's the culmination of many discussions we've had with the customer, and we're seeing large deal sizes as a result. We just demonstrated that we had a record percentage of deals greater than $100,000 for the quarter that encompass 76% of our software revenue. That was up 24% year-over-year. The volume of those deals was up 20%. So one continues to feed the other. Again, it's a land, adopt, expand, and renew all in one motion.

Eric Martinuzzi

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

30:47 Got it. Congrats on the quarter and the outlook.

Brian Carolan

Analyst · Lake Street. Your line is open.

30:50 Thank you, Eric.

Operator

Operator

30:55 This concludes the Q&A session. Thank you for participating in today's conference. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.