David Parker
Analyst · TD Cowen
Elliot, this is David. I'd tell you, I would much rather be in the industry we are in, in a position that I think that the world is going to shake. I really do. What I've read from some of you all about some of the analyst write-ups about this long term is this an industry -- what's the word I've been using- industry change, long-term cycle? I really believe it is. I mean, as I look at the backdrop, I don't think the industry, including us, is at first base. And I see a lot of great things that are happening within DOT and FMCSA and everything that they are doing there that is just going to continue to allow this industry to get back to returns that we all want to be at. And so I'm excited about where we are. We got challenges. The industry has got challenges that we've already talked about here, and that insurance being #1 as everybody's insurance expires, ours don't expire until next year. So we're good for another 8 or 10 months before the market, but you still have high deductibles and quarters, and I mean it drives me crazy about how much you pay for insurance and about how much you really have, which would be less than what you think you got on every one of these insurance claims. But the market, the rates got to go up. And the rates are, and the rates will continue to go up because capacity has left and capacity is going to continue to leave. I would tell you that I have seen from first -- because keep in mind, as I'm thinking here, Elliot, guys, we did not -- here it is, November, December, 8 months ago, we all, including everybody on this phone, said, is it turning? Maybe I think it is, first time in 4 years. March was 4 years. Is it turning? We were asking that question. I never forget sitting here in this company last December saying, I think we can go get rate increases. First time the industry has in 4 years. I think we can go get increases. I'm here to tell you, we went out to the market in the middle of December. And for January and the 1st of February, we got 3.4%, and we were high 5. We thought, man, we are doing a job because of the first time in 4 years. Well, by April, 2.5 months later, that 3.4% was that the market was at 7% or 8%, 7% or 8%. Well, you can't go into your January and February customers that just gave you 3.4% and raise them 2 months later. So you've got to let some time go by- say, 6, 8, 10 months go by before you can go back to those customers. But by current July, June and July, that's 7%, 8% was double digits, 10%, 11%, 12%, even higher on certain pieces of the business that are operating. So how quickly the market has moved is a backdrop to where we're at. So that said, I'm happy with where our rate increases are at. If you look at the last 4 years, phenomenal, us in the industry, unbelievable, whatever word you want to use. But I'm here to say that I think it's half of it. I think it's going to continue to climb because we got the costs that I look at those claims we had in the second quarter. The tail on these things is crazy, but that hasn't changed. That's always been there. But every so often, backing the but it's good. In the second quarter. But with the background that the industry is at, I expect great things. I think now, because you asked the question, you read one about growth. When growth, I don't know because a blessing is that it's getting harder for drivers. It's getting harder to get truck drivers. And that's a negative from a standpoint that I could grow some dedicated right now, and we're going to try to figure out how to grow dedicated and get some drivers. It's going to increase driver pay. That's okay. We've got to get it out of the rates. But at the same time, you're not going to see crazy stuff happening because the driver situation is getting more difficult as we speak. So it's going to keep a lid on capacity cause the drivers. It's going to keep a lid on capacity cause the DOT. They are at first base on the ELDs, I'm going to tell you, 30% of ELD users ache it. 30% of ELDs out there running are competing with my teams with a so driver, 30% of them, and it could be greater, but it's a big number on ELDs. And they just hit the ball out of the batter's box. I mean, that thing has got a long run as we take out capacity on that. And then I'm not going to go over all the CDLs and the truck driving training schools and the cab, gigantic, when these trucks are not operating in the United States for 30 days, they're either going up, and they're going back. And they're now starting to measure that. They had to get Homeland Security involved to make sure that they are on top of that. Capacity is leaving. So I say all that, Elliot, when can we grow? I don't know. A thing I know is that I'm going to be a lot more profitable. A thing I know is I'm going to have a lot more earnings coming to the bottom line. The only thing I know is that my retained earnings are going to go up. We're going to recapture a lot of profitability that we've lost, and we're one of the best ones in the market in the last 4 years that you can go back and look at. But there's a lot of earnings that we didn't get, and we're going to go get those earnings. So my thing is not how big can I get, how many white trucks do I want to run? Mine is, how profitable can I get? How can I recapture the less earnings that I had over the last 4 years? And guys, this is 53 years I've been in this, and I couldn't be more excited about what is happening that's going to give us the opportunity. Now, is it going to happen in the second quarter? It didn't. Is it going to happen in the third quarter? No. Fourth quarter, it's going to happen. I've seen some write-ups in the last 6, 8 months. You are saying '27 is going to be a blowout year. I think there's going to be obstacles in '27, but I think it's going to be a very good year. I do. I think you are correct on that in your thoughts. It isn't going to happen in the second quarter or the third quarter. We're going to continue to make progress. You're going to see it in the next 2 quarters. You're going to see it in '27. You're going to see it in '28. I mean, I think this is a long-term 3- or 4-year super cycle is the word I was looking for, super cycle, and I believe that it is. Anyway, Jason, I'll shut up.