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Civeo Corporation (CVEO)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 26, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Civeo Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Regan Nielsen, Manager, Corporate Development and Investor Relations.

Regan Nielsen

Management

Thank you. And welcome to Civeo's fourth quarter and full-year 2018 earnings conference call. Today, our call will be led by Bradley Dodson, Civeo's President and Chief Executive Officer and Frank Steininger, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, we would like to caution listeners regarding forward-looking statements. To the extent that our remarks today contain information other than historical information, please note that we are relying on the Safe Harbor protections afforded by federal law. Any such remarks should be read in the context of the many factors that affect our business, including risks disclosed in our Form 10-K, 10-Q, and other SEC filings. I will now turn the call over to Bradley.

Bradley Dodson

President

Thank you, Regan. And thank you all for joining us today on our fourth quarter earnings conference call. I'll begin with an overview of our fourth quarter performance and highlights before offering some commentary on our three business segments. Frank will then provide give a detailed financial and segment level review. And I'll conclude with our updated guidance before we move to the Q&A portion of the call. We made good progress in the fourth quarter, which was highlighted by strong performance in the Australian and U.S. segments, new contracts in Canada and Australia, another quarter of debt reduction. During the fourth quarter of 2018, we generated revenues of $114.5 million, an increase from $101.3 million year-over-year to $19.9 million in adjusted EBITDA up from $13.3 million. Revenue was in line with expectations and adjusted EBITDA results were at the upper end of our guidance for the fourth quarter. Turning to our cash flow and debt reduction. We generated $28.5 million in operating cash flow and $21.9 in free cash flow, both more than double our cash flow generation from the fourth quarter of 2017. We also repaid $22.9 million of debt during the quarter. As you likely saw in our press release, we announced multiple contract awards during the fourth quarter. At a Sitka Lodge, we secured an 18 month room commitment from LNG Canada, bringing our total LNG related contracted revenues to approximately CAD170 million, which extended through 2021. We are pleased to grow our partnership with the LNG Canada project and the local First Nation, and we'll continue to steal other LNG related opportunities, including the possible further extension of our Sitka Lodge in Kitimat beyond the previously announced expansion to 1,100 rooms. We view this development of Canadian LNG as a significant driver of growth for…

Frank Steininger

Management

Thank you, Bradley. And thanks everyone for joining us this morning. I'll start-off with a review of our fourth quarter results by segment before moving into the full-year. Today, we reported total revenues in the 2018 fourth quarter of $114.5 million with a net loss on a GAAP basis of $12.8 million or $0.08 per diluted share. During the fourth quarter, we generated adjusted EBITDA of $19.9 million, operating cash flow of $28.5 million and free cash flow of $21.9 million. Turning to the fourth quarter results for our segment, I'll begin with a review of the Canadian segment performance compared to the prior quarter. Revenues from our Canadian segment were $69.4 million, decreasing from $76.8 million in the third quarter. Revenues for the quarter were impacted by slowdown around the holiday season and turnaround activity in the Canadian oil sands rolling off, as well as an unfavorable impact from foreign exchange. Adjusted EBITDA in Canada was $11.8 billion, down from $16.5 million in the third quarter, driven by the items I just mentioned. During the fourth quarter, build rooms in our Canadian lodges totaled 687, 217, down 16% sequentially, impacted by the aforementioned dynamics. Our daily room rates for the Canadian segment in U.S. dollars was $91 compared to $89 in the third quarter, and this was driven by increasing occupancy at our Sitka Lodge in British Columbia, supporting the LNG project. Turning to Australia, during the fourth quarter, we reported revenues of $29.7 million, down slightly from $31.1 million in the third quarter, primarily driven by lower average daily rate resulting from less casual room rentals. Adjusted EBITDA was $11.7 million, down sequentially from $12.4 million. The average daily room rate for Australian villages in U.S. dollars decreased to $74 in the fourth quarter compared to $77 in…

Bradley Dodson

President

Thank you, Frank. I'll start with an overview of the factors that will impact our first quarter and full-year 2019, and then provide our financial guidance before opening the call for Q&A. Start of 2019 thus far has been punctuated by oil price uncertainty and continued global trade strive and political, as well as regulatory uncertainty in Egypt, the U.S., Canada and Australia. These exogenous forces could negatively impact the global supply demand dynamics for oil or met coal, the commodity prices for those and ultimately, our customers' willingness to spend money and remain active in our major markets. With this backdrop, we have modestly reduced our full year 2019 guidance from that given on the third quarter earnings call. In Canada, the cadence of work in the oil sands region should pick up after a slow start to the year after the holidays and what we believe will be a temporary Alberta oil production curtailment. We expect this early weakness in Canada to impact both the first quarter results for the region and our consolidated results. For the balance of 2019, we expect a relatively normal turnaround schedule for the second and third quarter of '19 in Canada. However, this activity in our core Canadian oil sands market could be negatively impacted by further government intervention or future downward pressure on WTI or WCS oil prices. Our guidance includes un-contracted turnaround work in the second and third quarters, as well as normal activity levels in the oil sands regions for the second half of 2019. As we progress through the year, we expect to benefit from accelerated contributions from the LNG Canada and Coastal Gasoline contracts, particularly as we move into the back half of 2019. Taking into account the softness in the first quarter, we expect Canadian room…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Stephen Gengaro of Stifel. Please go ahead.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

I guess a couple things to just start with, when you are looking at your utilization levels and room rate expectations over the course of 2019 versus '18. I think how we should think about that in Canada and in Australia?

Bradley Dodson

President

Let's start in Canada. For the full year 2018 and Canadian dollars, I think we ended up around $115 a room night. Now with the mix of rooms and the occupancy as we go into 2019, I think that will be modestly up, a couple months here or there. And as we mentioned, we think room nights though will, because of the softness we're seeing at the start in the Canadian oil sands region, we'll actually be modestly down in total '18 to '19 despite the ramp-up. In Australia, we ended up in Australian dollars -- I believe around 102. We don't expect anything to change next year. The variable in Australia much more of an impact than we see in Canada can be our casual room usage. A lot of our customers will contract to our base level rooms, which that base level will be priced at -- since largely we take or pay and where we price at a certain level typically, mid to high 90s per room night in Australian dollars. Depending on how much they want to expand over that base level of rooms and the amount of time or advanced notice that we get on that, the prices can be higher than that. So presuming that the casual usage remains relatively consistent with what we've seen over the last 12 months, we think pricing is fairly flat year-over-year in Australia.

Frank Steininger

Management

Fillings room in Australia I think we talked about up 10% year-over-year, which with flat pricing gets us to the concept that we think that will translate into year-over-year increase in EBITDA implicitly and then margins are the same year-over-year and Australia. I think the dynamic there is that we'll have some food cost and labor cost inflation and the team is expecting they'll be able to find efficiencies in order to fight that back and keep margins black year-over-year.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

And then as I think about, I guess two parts to this, when you think about the cash generation, I mean it sounds like if you use the midpoint of EBITDA fortyish million in CapEx in your interest costs, you know you're going to generate $20-$30 million in free cash. I assume that goes to debt pay down, just two questions. One is the CapEx, the non-maintenance portion; it sounds like it's going toward refurb room, upgrading rooms and Australia plus projects around Canada, is that right?

Frank Steininger

Management

So I mean I think if you look at where we are, I think we have about 20 million or so Canadian, 20 to 25 million Canadian related to projects on the West Coast. Increase in the room count at Sitka that we talked about and also some starting on the work on coastal gas line. So, that's really where that number is really where the growth capital is this coming year and in the rest of it is really more or less maintenance.

Bradley Dodson

President

Right, with some room refurbs in Australia.

Frank Steininger

Management

Yes, but that in total at least what we've got in the forecast right now, that might be a year-over-year change of $3-$5 million US.

Bradley Dodson

President

Exactly, right.

Frank Steininger

Management

So, we believe it's a good thing to get started we see in some of our core Bowen basin locations the potential need, let's say over the next 12 to 18 months for increased occupancy if some of these growth projects move forward and because we've had lower occupancy for several years now, some of the rooms a little spit and polish. So we're going to do some of that and get on the refurb's so that we have blocks of rooms that are available because of some of these projects move forward, they won't need a handful of extra rooms, they could need 200, 400, 600 extra rooms. So, we are trying slowly to prepare for that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will now take our next question from Mike Malouf of Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Mike Malouf

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead

One of the things that struck me on this quarter is it looks like you're getting some synergies coming through especially on the SG&A line, and I'm just wondering if you could comment a little bit on that expense line and as you look into 2019. And then second of all, I have a question on the US. As we look at the gross profit margins in the US, that was down quite a bit sequentially, and maybe it was just because of the one-time work that you are doing in the fourth quarter, but just a comment on the margins in the US would be helpful. Thanks.

Frank Steininger

Management

SG&A for the quarter was impacted by two things. We had less impact from the standpoint of our annual bonus plans because we didn't reach our target and as you know, we've got phantom shares in with the stock price decreasing that impacted the expense related to the mark to market on those shares that are paid out in cash. So, that's really the main driver from an SG&A standpoint.

Bradley Dodson

President

Certainly, from an SG&A standpoint we made strives on the synergy part of this in the fourth quarter got the partial impact for finally being able to turn over the food procurement contract to a consolidated provider that provided some benefit to the Canadian lodges during the fourth quarter and then, quite frankly, finishing up some final touches on some of the integration work. So, we made some progress, but to Frank's point, that was less of the impact on the SG&A. As it relates to US margins, you nailed it, Mike, and that is that the officer fabrication project was a good project for us, the team did a good job in terms of execution, both in terms of timing and delivery of that project in the fourth quarter but those typically carry lower margins than the segment as a whole. And so, with the change of the revenue mix, we saw that impact the segment margins in the quarter.

Mike Malouf

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead

And then just a follow-up as you look out to 2019 with regards Australia, obviously, the net coal prices have remained pretty strong for a long time here, and I'm just wondering if you could give us some real time anecdotal commentary on expansion over there and are you seeing some green shoots with regard to chatter? Thanks.

Bradley Dodson

President

Sure, well as you mentioned and we talked about on prior calls, really throughout the 2018 time period and now extending into 2019, it's been a nice steady improvement typically sequentially quarter to quarter in terms of occupancy and therefore profitability of our Australian segment. But also, in terms of your question, we haven't seen with constructive met coal prices, we haven't seen in a large expansionary projects move forward. We are certainly watching some of the things that the BHP affiliates are doing in the Bowen basin as well as what Whitehaven might do down in the Gunnedah. If either of those several projects move forward, or any of those several projects move forward, we expect to use existing locations. We are working on getting those rooms ready should any of those move forward also looking at some more for Fitzroy and Anglo as well. So, it has been a good sequential improvement, but no step change in terms of the occupancy level and that would largely be driven by any expansionary capital projects. Do you have anything?

Frank Steininger

Management

No, there's chatter Mike, but we're waiting for some project.

Mike Malouf

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead

I've been waiting too, so thanks a lot. Appreciate the help.

Bradley Dodson

President

Well, I guess to that point, certainly the Boggabri and Narrabri contract extensions which would foretell potentially some of those projects moving forward, but the base level of rooms that are contracted right now is fairly consistent with what we've had over the last 12 months. But getting those extended, hopefully, will then translate into those Gunnedah projects moving forward on an expansionary basis.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Stephen Gengaro of Stifel; please go ahead.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Thanks, gentlemen, just to follow-ups if you don't mind. The first being obviously a slow start to the year based on your guidance. As you look at the back half of 2019, and obviously it sounds like there's going to be some of the West Coast Canadian guests and that sure LNG project impact there. As we think about 2020, I know it's really early to think about 2020, but is that back second half 2019 run rate a reasonable place to start? So, I'm just thinking about 2020 being a pretty strong cash generation year based on that plus maybe a return to a more normalized maintenance CapEx level. Is that a reasonable way to think about it as the back half of 2019 unfolds into 2020?

Bradley Dodson

President

I would think so. The biggest driver of the second half 2019 versus the first half of 2019, and Frank jump in here; is really what happens in Sitka. We expect that both our room count and or aggregate occupancy will continue to improve throughout Q1, Q2, into Q3. Q3 and Q4 being fairly consistent in terms of occupancy and revenue and EBITDA coming out of Sitka. That contract goes through the middle part of 2020. So, presuming that they will still need rooms in Sitka and that it continues for the full year of 2020, then yes, that will be a tailwind or a positive year over year trend. We'll also have a lot greater input or revenue generation and EBITDA generation out of the gasoline projects that are coming. We throw those factors in, you pull out maybe some holiday downtime if you want to take the fourth quarter and annualize it and presuming the other markets stay relatively consistent, it should indicate a much better 2020. And to your point, while will have some coastal gasoline CapEx in 2020, the free cash flow should be better because the Sitka CapEx will be behind us.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

And I look at 2018 as a benchmark, but it's maybe not a great place to compare 2018 versus 2019, but you're EBITDA jumped significantly first quarter to second quarter in 2018 and obviously your 2019 guidance suggests a strong second half, but is the ramp going to be seen materially in the second -- I made it almost has to be seen in the second quarter, I would assume to get to the full year guidance, is that fair?

Bradley Dodson

President

Yes, I mean we'll see a couple factors. I'll talk about Canada and Frank talk about Australia, but Canada, it's good to be turnaround work, and yeah, I think right now, we factored in a good second quarter turnaround. Last second quarter was a little messy because of one of our customers having a power outage that impacted their overall activity and activity in the second quarter as a whole. Then on Australia?

Frank Steininger

Management

The year starts out slow because the Christmas holiday and then that just continues to ramp up as we get into February and March and that will follow as we get into the second quarter.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

And then just one final, as you look at potential opportunities of expansion and you look at some of these logistics in catering projects, what does the environment look like for those type of deals right now?

Bradley Dodson

President

We're talking about inorganic growth around acquisitions; I would say that we've had a fairly steady pipeline of opportunities to look at. I would say that as with anything, I think valuation is relatively manageable in terms of what the seller's expectations are relative to what our expectations might be and then is ultimately due diligence and trying to close the deal. So, we remained active, those of the areas we're looking at in addition to looking at potentially some consolidating and property acquisitions predominantly in Australia and the US, but I would say that the market is relatively constructive.

Operator

Operator

It appears there are no further questions at this time; I would like to turn the conference back to your host for any additional or closing remarks.

Bradley Dodson

President

Well, I think you all for joining us on the call today. We were pleased with how we ended off 2018. We anticipated some slow start to 2019 and that is coming to peer to be correct. We do expect a bench brighter outlook as we move throughout 2019 look forward to talking to you about it on future conference calls.

A - Bradley Dodson

Analyst

This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.