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Cousins Properties Incorporated (CUZ)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 7, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Cousins Properties' Fourth Quarter 2018 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Pam Roper, General Counsel. Please go ahead.

Pamela Roper

Analyst

[Technical Difficulty] The press release and supplemental package were made available on the Investor Relations page of our website yesterday afternoon, as well as furnished on Form 8-K. In the supplemental package, the company has reconciled all non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in accordance with Reg G requirements. Please be aware that certain matters discussed today may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, and actual results may differ materially from these statements due to a variety of risks and uncertainties and other factors. The company does not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. The full declaration regarding forward-looking statements is available in the supplemental package posted yesterday, and a detailed discussion of some potential risk is contained in our filings with the SEC. With that, I'll turn the call over to Colin Connolly.

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Thank you, Pam, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will begin my prepared remarks by revisiting our corporate strategy. I will then summarize our 2018 achievement and highlight Cousins' 2019 priorities and future growth opportunity. Richard Hickson, our EVP of Operations will follow my comments with an update on market fundamentals and our property portfolio. Lastly, Gregg Adzema, our Chief Financial Officer will provide a summary of our financial performance and conclude with our 2019 guidance. At Cousins, we believe that we have a unique and compelling strategy. We strive to be the preeminent Sunbelt office company. It's that simple. To accomplish this goal, we execute the business based on four core principles. First, own the premier Sunbelt office portfolio with concentrations of trophy quality properties in the leading urban sub-markets across our geographic footprint. Second, maintain a disciplined approach to capital allocation with a focus on new investments where our platform can add value and generate attractive return. Third, preserve our best-in-class balance sheet to provide financial flexibility, so we can execute quickly when opportunities arise. And fourth, leverage strong local operating platforms that take an entrepreneurial approach to customer service, local market relationships and deep community involvement. If you know Cousins, this straightforward strategy I outlined should sound familiar. We've been running this place since we began repositioning the company in 2011, and we remain committed to it. Let me walk you through why. First, our strategy benefits from several macro trends that favor trophy quality office properties in the Sunbelt. I'll share a couple of interesting data points to highlight these trends. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Arizona, and Georgia ranked number one through five for states with top net migration from 2005 through 2017. According to JLL, approximately 75% of U.S.…

Richard Hickson

Analyst

Thank you, Colin, and good morning. As Colin mentioned, 2018 was a year characterized by strong leasing volume at impressive economics. At the portfolio level, this past quarter, our team completed over 450,000 square feet of leasing at an average lease term of eight years. In terms of mix, 61% of our activity was new and expansion leasing. Rent growth remained strong with second generation net rents increasing 36% on a GAAP basis and 13.1% on a cash basis. With our solid leasing performance, our operating portfolio ended the year at 94.9% leased. Looking forward, only 5.6% of our leases are set to expire during 2019. Turning to our markets. Fourth quarter leasing activity in Atlanta was robust, despite sluggish headline office employment statistics. According to JLL, Atlanta Class A rental rates have hit historic highs for eight quarter straight. Importantly, Class A rental rates in urban sub-markets have risen three times faster than in the suburbs, a material tailwind for our largely urban portfolio. Our Atlanta team executed 258,000 square feet of leasing in the quarter with sizable activity in each of our sub-markets, taking the portfolio to 93.4% leased. Notable leases included a 92,000 square foot early renewal of Frazier & Deeter, an accounting firm at Promenade and a full floor expansion of WeWork at Terminus and Buckhead. WeWork success at Terminus and their desire to expand is an encouraging sign regarding the vibrancy of Buckhead. And in particular, an interesting concentration of technology companies building along the Piedmont Road Corridor. While 2018 leasing activity in Buckhead started slowly, we saw a meaningful uptick in activity as the year progressed, including important commitments to the sub-market by established tech companies such as Salesforce and Workday. You will remember that Workday recently leased 40,000 square feet that are 3350…

Gregg Adzema

Analyst

Thanks, Richard, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin my remarks by providing an overview of our financial results. Then I'll move on to our balance sheet before closing my remarks with our 2019 earnings guidance. As you can tell from Colin and Richard remarks, it was a solid quarter on many fronts, at $0.17 per share, FFO was up over 11% over last year. In the important operating metrics that both you and we focus on were strong. Leasing velocity remained brisk, second generation leasing spreads were again up double digits and same property year-every-year cash NOI growth was positive for the 28th consecutive quarter. It was also very quarter. The only unusual line item was inside our general and administrative expenses, which remained below trend for the second consecutive quarter. Again, driven by reduction in our long term incentive compensation accrual. Within our same property portfolio, year-over-year cash NOI was up 1.2% during the fourth quarter, driven by 3.4% revenue growth. For the year, cash NOI grew at a very healthy 4.7%, despite a 12% increase in property taxes. Excluding property taxes, same property cash NOI growth would have exceeded 5% during 2018. That being said, we're certainly not complaining about large tax increases in our portfolio. It's a high class problem and indicative of the significant appreciation in the property values that we're seeing. Turning to our balance sheet. Most investors often focus on the strength of a company's credit profile and ours would certainly qualify strong. Our net debt to EBITDA is 3.7 times and our net debt to unappreciated assets is 24%. However, equally important is a company's liquidity position. When times get tough, liquidity usually dries up and the companies with committed access to cash have an important competitive advantage. We have this covered as…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Dave Rodgers with Baird. Please go ahead.

David Rodgers

Analyst

Yeah. Good morning, everybody. Maybe I'll start with Richard. I just wanted to talk about to the markets in particular maybe some leases that you mentioned both in Buckhead and Tampa, you said you had some replacement tenants for Bain and for T. Rowe, can you give a little color maybe on the downtime associated with those leases and just kind of the broader activity that you mentioned in each of those market?

Richard Hickson

Analyst

Sure, happy to do that. For Buckhead, in terms of the Bain space again that expires at the end of March of this year. And we expect downtime to be roughly couple of quarters. Pretty typical for dealing with that size in Atlanta. And to your question on T. Rowe, again I probably tell you about that as well for a customer of that size, roughly 70,000 feet, we'd expect construction time, down time around six months or so.

David Rodgers

Analyst

Great, that's helpful. Maybe for Colin. I know you have a confidentiality agreement but since you mentioned them by name, and it sounded like it was going to be some sort of land sale. Can you talk about kind of whether that was your option or there's to for you not to own that out, was that a kind of NOI strategy for you or purely on their part and just kind of maybe discuss how you got there?

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Yeah, Dave, I would love to elaborate further. Unfortunately, we will have to wait until we're able to get that transaction close. But as I've mentioned in my prepared remarks, we do think as we're able to disclose more, you'll see that it's a very financially compelling opportunity for Cousins. And I think just kind of stepping back as well, I think overall this is a very positive kind of testament to what's happening in Atlanta. A large fortune 500 company relocating to Atlanta and not just Atlanta into Midtown. And as I mentioned I think speaks to our deep relationships and structure shooter ability is to be able to work with somebody like Norfolk Southern on a direct basis. So as we get the transaction further along, we'll look forward providing all those details.

David Rodgers

Analyst

Great. And then maybe last question, you mentioned 1.5% or so of revenues likely they have come from that office business, industrial WeWork, the industry as we were considering, any thoughts they have an upper bound that you're comfortable with, you have plenty of runway there, do you anticipate doing more?

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Yeah, we look at it, building by building. But again I think at a high level, we've been very pleased and encouraged with our experience with some of the larger coworkers. We've got [indiscernible] spaces, lease at our 8000 Avalon project, and we, as Richard mentioned, just expanded. We work at Terminus and we're excited to do our first lease with industrious out in Tempe. And we've had lots of communication with our underlying customers and they viewed it very favorably in terms of - really the flexibility, the accordion feature that it's provided to many of our customers. And we're actually starting to see some opportunities where we've seen companies, I'd say graduate perhaps out of flexible, more short-term space and then look to perhaps a larger long term more traditional lease with us on a direct basis. So, it's been a positive experience. Certainly will be mindful of credit and we look at that really no different than we would kind of any other industry. But we're mindful of credit and so we continue to watch that carefully. So we'll keep that - the overall amount of that in context with the portfolio. But I wouldn't say there's a specific number, we just we want to be thoughtful and balanced about it.

David Rodgers

Analyst

Great, thank you.

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Sure.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Jamie Feldman with Bank of America ML. Please go ahead.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

Great. Thanks and good morning. Good. I appreciate the color at Bain and T. Rowe. Can you talk about some of the other large blocks you're looking to backfill CBRE, AIG and then DFA?

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Sure, Jamie, I'll - it's Colin and I'll just kind of walk you through that…

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

And I'm sorry, you can just add what's in your guidance for any of these spaces that would be helpful?

Colin Connolly

Analyst

So it will - Jamie, let me just kind of break it down, your maybe over the course of 2019 and 2020. As we've talked about and Richard walked through, I'd say that the large material explorations in '19 AIG, he is now expired at NorthPark. That was about 105,000 feet. We've got the DFA space in Charlotte, Bain, CBRE. Those are really the large material one this year. We're making really good progress. If you'll recall from last quarter, we signed a long term lease with a company, technology company by the name of OneTrust that really will backfill the vast majority of the AIG space. And that will come online over the course of 2019, as we will have a little bit of downtime to refit that space. Bain, again, we're making really good progress. We're hopeful in the not too distant future, we'll have good news to share there. And then we still have a little bit of work to do on the CBRE space. But again, I think as we've said in the past, it's important to get closer to those explorations to really be a viable opportunity for customers in the market. So the success that we have at Bain is their exploration comes along in March, I think those well for the opportunity on the CBRE space. Looking forward to the 2020, again the two material explorations that we've got, it's the T. Rowe space and it was the Well space at 111 Congress. And again we're making really good progress here and really backfilled almost the entirety of that T. Rowe space and then just did a recent renewal with Well. So the team and all our markets continues to do a great job before we're thinking with our customers and we're trying to attack that day-by-day and have add some good success.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

Great. Thank you. That's helpful. And then I guess just the Charlotte space, I think the comments for that you had good interest. Is this something you've included in your 2019 guidance, is getting backfilled or not yet?

Colin Connolly

Analyst

It is - we have with the Dimensional Place spaces. As Richard touched on, it really have some of the best space, existing space in the entirety of Uptown. It has been you know tied to our Dimensional Place project which will commence in the end of this quarter. So it's been a little bit of a moving target as we've continued to finish our work on that Dimensional Fund Advisors has had some change orders et cetera. We're confident we'll get it done this quarter. But it's been a little bit of a moving target in terms of when we could promise that space to a customer. So now that we've got some definition. I think we'll - teams got some activity and we'll keep working through that. But any leasing on or occupancy on that space would be towards the back half of the year in our guidance and not have a real material impact on our 2019 numbers.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you. I know you can't give a lot of color about Norfolk Southern, but just as you think about that parcel in Midtown and what you own around it, and how that when we just keep hearing more and more interest in that part of town. Can you maybe just give a big picture of what you think Midtown is shaping up to be and what you think the longer term opportunities are for you there and what it means for your portfolio there?

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Absolutely. Midtown continues to be very robust and interest from large customers. And I would say if you look back five plus years ago, Midtown was really known as the legal hub of Atlanta. And it's evolved from there quite significantly and certainly began to pick the interest of certainly technology companies. And a lot of other large companies who are looking to tap into really the research and development and the talent over at Georgia Tech. And I'd say that really has been a key driver. That was certainly our experience with NCR. They wanted to be in Midtown close to mass transit, which Midtown offers and close to the talent and opportunity over Georgia Tech. So we think that that will be a consistent theme. We've been positioning ourselves over the last several years to try to take advantage of those opportunities. And I think again in short order, hopefully, we'll be able to highlight that with Norfolk Southern. We also own a terrific site at 901 West Peachtree. And there's a lot of big customers in the market. So I know you would think of this traditional technology companies but also some other large corporate and financial services oriented companies who think of the technology and operations aspects of their business is really what's going to differentiate them going forward. And so we're very bullish on Midtown and certainly an area that will continue to focus on.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

Okay. Then final question for me. Can you just talk about your outlook for rent growth across your markets? I know you talked about your mark-to-market in your red box, but what do you make this year looks like for rent growth?

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Yeah, again, we're - actually we're very constructive on it. Demand is solid and supply is certainly speculative. Supply has remained generally in check. And so we think that the 2019 will look very similar to 2018 from that standpoint. And say we look over the last 12 months, our markets have ranged anywhere from 3% to 8%, was really kind of an average of 5%. Phoenix over the last few months, it's probably been a little bit slower. I don't know if that's nothing particularly that we've seen on the ground, but that's what the data would show. And Charlotte's that on the upper end of that range at 8%. With - the others kind of in and around that 5%. But I think that that would be kind of a safe assumption looking forward to 2019.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

Okay, Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from John Guinee with Stifel. Please go ahead.

John Guinee

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead.

Great. Very impressive, guys. Thank you. Two questions. I'm not 100% sure, but my recollection is maybe SunTrust is located in Atlanta and BB&T is located or headquartered in Winston Salem, anything you could comment on that would be interesting. And then the second comment is for the tone of someone's voice, I can't remember whose, you were - it appears if you're not really happy about having co-working in your buildings but you've got to be in that game. Could you comment on either of those?

Colin Connolly

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead.

Sure, John, it's Colin. I'll be happy to touch on both of those. So we were - we woke up like everybody else do the news with SunTrust and BB&T and obviously SunTrust is headquartered here in Atlanta. It was interesting as a merger of Eagles they've announced that that Charlotte will in fact be their new corporate headquarters but they did make very specific comments that Atlanta would continue to be their corporate and investment banking hub, their wholesale banking is as they call that. So here within the city, they've got, called a 1.5 square feet as a vast majority of that is in downtown Atlanta. But we would not expect to probably see a material change there. But just stepping back at a high level, a couple of points that I would make. I think it speaks very favorably towards Charlotte and potentially the long term opportunity there. We've got great relationships with those banks, so we'll see in time. And then the other interesting point I'd want to make is really if you look at what's happening between those two banks, they are doubling down on the Sunbelt, which is very consistent with our strategy. And as I looked at their deck this morning, one of the things that they were highlighting was that their geographic footprint which is very complimentary to ours ranks number one in their peer set for the population growth and GDP growth. And so again, I think it really supports, it shows two large companies making a bet on the Sunbelt. So to answer your second question on co-working, I think he might have misinterpreted our tone. I think that as we look forward, co-working has been a very positive experience for us. And it is just 1.5%. It has got a lot of attention and headlines. But from our standpoint today, right our customers have in the buildings where we've got that exposure have liked it right, they like the flexibility and the new project comes along having that accordion feature. And we continue to see some interest from their underlying customers looking to graduate up into some of our space. So the data has been very positive. As I mentioned, from a credit perspective, it's something that we'll have to continue to watch. And just like any kind of below investment grade credit right, we want to have kind of limit our exposure to that for the long term.

John Guinee

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Michael Lewis with SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Good morning. This is Alexie [ph] throwing in for Michael this morning. I was wondering if you could share some thoughts on related group's planned multifamily developments in Phoenix? I believe a number of news article suggested that they plan to invest something to the tune of 500 million in Phoenix and the surrounding areas?

Colin Connolly

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Could you repeat your question? We couldn't quite hear the audio.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Sorry. Can you hear me right now? Little better?

Colin Connolly

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Yeah, much better.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Okay. Yeah, I'll repeat it again. I was wondering if you could share your thoughts on related group's plant multifamily developments in Phoenix and the surrounding areas which could total about 500 million according to some news articles.

Colin Connolly

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Well that related is clearly a very reputable group with a long and a proven track record that throughout the U.S. and certainly typically speaking and high barrier markets with growth. And I think there are interest in Phoenix have something of that size and scale. Speaks very favorably to the long term trends and prospects for Phoenix. In terms of kind of where they are, their process right, I don't want to allow them to kind of speak for themselves overtime. But again we look at that as somebody making a big bet in Phoenix and clearly shares our view that there's really positive demographics and growth opportunities in the market.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Colin Connolly for any closing remarks.

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Thank you all for spending the time with us today. We appreciate your interest in Cousins Properties. We are always available for additional questions. Feel free to reach out. If we don't talk to you before, we'll look forward to our next conference call to discuss our first quarter results. Have a great day.