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Cousins Properties Incorporated (CUZ)

Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 27, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Cousins Properties’ Second Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. All parties will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions [Operator Instructions]. Please note, this event is being recorded. I now like to turn the conference over to Pam Roper. Ms. Roper, please go ahead.

Pam Roper

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to Cousins Properties’ second quarter earnings conference call. Press release and supplemental package were distributed yesterday afternoon as well as furnished on Form-8K. In the supplemental package, the Company has reconciled all non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, in accordance with Reg G requirement. If you did not receive a copy, these documents are available through the quarterly disclosures and supplemental SEC information links on the Investor Relations page of our website. As you may be aware, on April 29, 2016, we announced a merger between Cousins Properties and Parkway Properties. A separate press release was issued in the Investor Presentation with the related conference call transcript regarding the proposed transaction were posted to both companies’ websites. In addition, please note that the joint proxy statement was filed in July 25, 2016 and has been posted to this both companies’ websites. Certain of our Directors and executive officers may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies with respect to the proposed transaction. Information about the participants and proxy solicitation is contained in the definitive joint proxy statement. With the exception of a brief update regarding the special meetings, this call we will focus on our second quarter results. And we request that you can find your questions and comments to these results and not the announced merger. Please be aware that certain matters discussed today may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of Federal Securities laws, and actual results may differ materially from these statements due to a variety of risks and uncertainties and other factors. The Company does not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. The full declaration regarding forward-looking statements is available in the press release issued yesterday and a detailed discussion of some potential risks is contained in our filings with the SEC. With that, I’ll turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Larry Gellerstedt.

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst

Thanks, Pam. Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us on the Cousins Properties second quarter conference call. With me today are Gregg Adzema, Cousins’ Chief Financial Officer; and Colin Connolly, Cousins’ Chief Operating Officer. I’m happy to report, we had a very busy and productive second quarter here at Cousins. I’ll start with a brief overview of some key financial and operational highlights for the quarter, and then focus my comments around the status of our merger with Parkway Properties and the subsequent spin off of the combined company’s Houston portfolio and to a separate publically-traded REIT. During the second quarter, Cousins delivered FFO before merger costs of $0.22 per share or a total of $0.42 per share, year-to-date. Impressively, for the 18th consecutive quarter, we posted positive, same property cash NOI growth. We also leased approximately 402,000 square feet of office space during the quarter for a total of 622,000 square feet for the first half of 2016. This solid lacing performance was accompanied by positive second generation cash leasing spread of 4.3%. This represents our ninth consecutive quarter of positive rent rollups for the Company. Our continued execution on the leasing front underscores the strength of our portfolio as well as the robust demand we’re seeing in our core markets. The office portion of our development pipeline, including our project with Dimensional Fund Advisors in Charlotte finished the quarter 79% leased, up from 74% leased at the end of last quarter. The notable activity here, was the execution of a 10-year 43,000 square foot lease with Microsoft and 8000 Avalon, our newly announced Atlanta office development with Gerald Hines. Other exciting news is the recently executed 68,245 square foot lease with Cadence Software at Research Park V in Austin, which brings the building to 97% leased,…

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Thanks Larry and good morning everyone. I will begin by comments today by briefly highlighting some of our key leasing and operational metrics from the quarter, and then spend the reminder of my time, providing more specific market, portfolio, and development pipeline updates. The team delivered a solid leasing quarter across the portfolio. We executed approximately 400,000 square feet of leases during the quarter. Importantly, this included approximately 200,000 square feet of new leases, which represents the highest level of new leasing activity in two years, if you exclude the 494,000 square foot lease in the third quarter of 2015 with NCR for their new corporate headquarters. Overall, lease economics continue to trend in a favorable direction in our Sunbelt markets with the exception of Houston. In addition, our second generation re-leasing spreads remained positive for the ninth consecutive quarter with the 17% increase on a GAAP basis and 4.3% increase on a cash basis. Importantly, this metric was positive across all of our markets including Houston. But before moving on, I do want to note that this particular metric is lumpy and highly dependent upon the geographic mix of where we execute leases in a given quarter. As I said in the past, Houston has been a key driver for our outsized re-leasing spreads. However, Houston is only accounted for 28% of the Company’s leasing activity year-to-date for 2016, compared to 66% in 2015. While the slowdown in the Houston market has contributed to the deceleration of our Houston leasing activity, the biggest driver has been the lack of any material near-term lease expirations triggering large renewal opportunities like we had in Houston during 2014 and 2015. Switching gears, I’ll provide some color on each of the markets, starting with Houston. As I mentioned earlier, fundamentals have weakened. Trailing…

Gregg Adzema

Analyst

Thanks Colin, good morning, everyone. As Larry said earlier, we are extremely excited about Cousins prospects after completion of the Parkway merger and Houston spin-off. But in the meantime, we are still running our business and reporting our earnings. So in that spirit, I’d like to take a few minutes to quickly summarize our second quarter financial performance. Excluding merger and spin-off costs, which were $2.4 million or a little over penny per share during the quarter, FFO was $0.22 per share during the second quarter. Accounting rules require us to expanse transaction costs as occurred. So, these numbers run through our income statement and they reduce our FFO. Outside of the merger, it was a quiet solid quarter, reflecting the strong underlying office fundamentals in our Sunbelt markets. Same property NOI was firmly positive; rents continued to roll up, and leasing velocity accelerated. Beyond running our core business, we are laser focused on satisfying the conditions to close the merger and spin-off. For those of us at Cousins involved in finance and related support areas, this means completing significant integration of both people and systems as well as closing numerous capital markets transactions, which are all proceeding well. But we know the work associated with the Parkway transactions is a confine to us just here at Cousins. For those of you that track our financial performance or harder yet forecast our financial performance, the merger and spin-off will require more view time and resources. Although, the transactions themselves are pretty straight forward, the next couple of quarters will be difficult to model with absolute precision. The exact timing of the closing, the cost to unwind various interest rate swaps, deal maintenance required and the debt that’s been paid, these variables and many more are largely out of our control.…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the first question comes from Jamie Feldman with Bank of America.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

So, post transaction or post spin, you’ll have market concentration about 49% according to our numbers in Atlanta. I know, you said market conditions are doing pretty well. But, can you just talk about how you think about single market concentration risk, and any steps you might able to take, either, A, are you comfortable with Atlanta at half year business; and B, how you think about that pie chart going forward?

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst

Jamie, this is Larry. As I said when we had our merger call, Atlanta is really in a very unique supply-demand position. And so, a heavy market concentration here is a positive thing to have. And there is very limited new supply -- and I think at this point in the cycle, you won’t see those numbers change that much. Having said that, I also said in the call that long-term, we don’t want a concentration for long period of time, greater than 40% in any single market, and that will still be our objective. And once the merger is closed, then we’ll being able to give more thought to the, strategic concentrations that the Company has and where we want to investment more, and where we may want to harvest some of what we have.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

Okay. And you think about -- I guess even more so, you think about Charlotte and Austin markets -- you’re talking about supply is picking up there. I guess, would it give you a pause to sell out of some of those markets, just to because it would weight you even higher in Atlanta, as you think about the strategic allocation?

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst

No. I would say one of the strong rationales behind this transaction from our standpoint is the market position that we are left with in Atlanta and Austin and Charlotte. And we’ve demonstrated in Austin most recently that having multiple buildings in the best submarket gives you some competitive advantages, both on what you’re able to offer your customers as well as some operating efficiencies. So, we’d like the physical assets and we like the concentrations in Austin and Atlanta and Charlotte. Having said that, no building is sacred and we get to where we have a trade we want to make in one of those markets, we won’t hesitate to do so. But, we think that’s one of the real strengths of the merger is those market concentrations.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

And Gregg, you have talked about -- or I guess looking at the numbers, it looks like your same store expenses year-over-year declined. Can you talk about the sustainability of that or you think maybe we will make that up in the back half of the year?

Colin Connolly

Analyst

Jamie, it’s Collin. Really what’s driven the decline in expenses has been really terrific work by our team in the field. It primarily relates to us renegotiating some utility contracts as well as going through the real estate tax appeal process, which has brought our expenses down. So, we will continue to do that same type of work year-over-year. But, those changes in expenses are primarily attributed to those two particular reasons.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst

Okay. And I know it’s kind of a minor move here, but it looks like your percent leased at the Carolina Square office actually declined in the quarter?

Gregg Adzema

Analyst

Jamie, it’s correct. We had a minor typo in the first quarter supplement. It’s footnoted in the supplement. There was no backup, it was just a mistake in the supplement.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Dave Rodgers with Baird.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst · Baird.

I think, Larry, you made some comments about a slowdown in the lease process among your tenants; and Colin, I think in your comments today, I didn’t really hear any of that tone. Was there kind of just a minor slowdown in the first half, you’re seeing a pick up again? Maybe just kind of reconcile the comments of what you’re seeing today, what you’ve been seeing and maybe those comments that you made at NAREIT?

Colin Connolly

Analyst · Baird.

Yes, I think it in general across all of our markets, again with the exception of Huston, the markets remain strong, lease activity is good. I think what we have seen, and what I tried to communicate at NAREIT is the length of time to get deals done has taken longer. And I think that’s just corporate America taking a closer lens to any decision that they make whether the cost decision or investing capital, people are taking a little more cautious approach which has made deals -- the length of time to get them done take longer. But we haven’t seen a significant pullback at activity in Atlanta, Charlotte or Austin. It’s a good pipelines, just slower to get them done.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst · Baird.

And then, coming back to one of your earlier comments I guess on lease economics overall, I think you said that you still felt really good about your lease economics. And maybe if we could bifurcate between Houston and the other markets in the portfolio, it seems like economics came under a little more pressure in the quarter; I don’t know if that’s just Houston driven. Clearly spreads are still positive, but just kind of on an overall basis it looked like there was a little bit of a -- I don’t know, if a mixed shift or what. But, maybe dive between those two, if you could.

Colin Connolly

Analyst · Baird.

Yes. It -- across the three markets excluding Huston, again from a base rent standpoint, we continue to show positive ret spreads. I think looking on our statistics where you might see some softness would be in the costs of the leases, TIs and free rent. I think similar to the rent rollup statistics, it can be a little bit lumpy and highly dependent upon, both the geography of the lease and the type of lease. So, in this particular quarter, I think our costs could look a little bit elevated but those include some first generation leases at Avalon and Research Park; those tend to come with a higher TI as you would expect on a new development. Here in Atlanta, we had a huge amount of activity. Downtown which tends to come at a little higher cost, all fantastic deals that are positive for 191 and ACSC but tend to come a little bit higher price tag. And I think specifically to ACSC, as I mentioned in my remarks, it was a almost 40,000 square foot lease to a data center customer, which does come with a higher cost to build out that space. It does also come with a higher rental rate. And so, from NER, NPV perspective, a very, very attractive lease for that building. So, it’s highly specific to the particular quarter. I think as you look over kind of the long-term, if you kind of normalize those new construction TIs, we would be fairly consistent with previous quarters.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst · Baird.

Last question, I guess -- and maybe for Colin or Larry, talk a little bit about -- you kind of looked at the portfolio years ago and you began to kind of go from Atlanta to Houston and expand in Austin and Charlotte. What kept you out of Florida? I guess was just the ability to gain scale and not a market and not a set of markets that you like, I mean maybe dive into your historical perspective on that please?

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst · Baird.

I would say when we look at Florida and we didn’t take a real deep dive look at it, but there were a couple of pretty good REITs that were already down there and operating successfully on a long-term basis. It’s not a very -- if you look at any of the individual markets, they’re not real large. And so, we just saw better opportunities in some other markets in the short-term. Having said that, we have noticed that some of our peers have been successful down there. And so, we’re all about getting with our teammates down there and running those markets better and get to where we understand them better.

Colin Connolly

Analyst · Baird.

The only thing I would add to that is we evaluated there our geographic opportunity. I think at Cousins we always believe our relationships are competitive advantage. And so, we’ve been active over time in Charlotte for many, many years, and similar to that over in Texas as we’ve been in Dallas, we’ve been in Austin. And so, as we looked at markets with highly attractive demographics and fundamentals where we have relationships, we felt like we could leverage those and that got our attention first.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Tom Lesnick with Capital One Securities.

Ryan Wineman

Analyst · Capital One Securities.

Hi, this is Ryan Wineman with Tom Lesnick here. It seems like there is still some continued pessimism around Houston leasing right now. And I was just wondering, do you guys have any sort of sense as to whether these energy companies still just need to get their CapEx budgets under wraps to try and make money at these low energy prices or do they still have some overhead downsizing to do?

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst · Capital One Securities.

Well, I’m not an expert on oil companies, but there was a good article, I think this week in the journal that was talking about how in general the oil companies’ CEOs were feeling a little bit better about the long-term prospects. But, at the same time, there were still some downsize going on at the troupe level. So, our guys in Houston would tell you the headline news of so and so. Cutting back employee count is not as frequent, but it also has disappeared from the market. I think one of the great things that long term for Houston, it doesn’t mitigate the last few years and the impact of the energy. But, the fact that it still job is positive. And the medical center and the chemicals businesses and some of the things like that are showing that the economy certainly isn’t as one category dominated as it was in the 80s, when Houston went through the big downturn. But, I wouldn’t say we had heard a lot of people go out declare that we’re absolutely through and this is the bottom. I hope that’s right, but that’s not what we’ve been hearing. We also hadn’t heard people say, there is a lot more to come; it just keeps dribbling out.

Ryan Wineman

Analyst · Capital One Securities.

Just one more question, is the absolute oil price right now, or the volatility in that oil price, more important to stabilizing the Houston office market right now?

Colin Connolly

Analyst · Capital One Securities.

As Larry said, I’m not an energy expert either, but I think the folks that we talk to in Huston, I think they are looking for stability. And ultimately that price settles out, that will dictate what -- on the supply chain, what the services companies you can charge, because it’s ultimately not about the price of oil, it’s about the margin to the oil company, how much money they are making. So, I think they’re all looking for stability across the board and all upstream, downstream, midstream and services company to be able to plan their business and run their business. And right now, the uncertainty as it’s bounced around, it’s been extraordinarily hard, which has led to folks just making kind of no decision. So, I think stability is probably the most important.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from John Guinee with Stifel.

John Guinee

Analyst · Stifel.

We were looking at your leasing stats, and I think someone already talked about them slowing down a little bit in the first half of this year. What we were sort of stunned by was the dollar in CapEx and the dollar CapEx per square foot $7 or so, $7 per square foot per lease term. Is that here to stay; what’s your thought process, or are you consciously making the decision to spend a lot of upfront dollars in the near term to help deface rates?

Colin Connolly

Analyst · Stifel.

John, it’s Colin. The first thing I would say, just to make sure we’re looking at apples to apples, I know a lot of our competitors, when they publish those states are just including TIs and leasing commissions. Our published stats include TIs, leasing commissions and free rent. And so, I think on an apples to apples basis, it looks -- it makes us look a little bit higher. As we look at the trends over last couple of years, quarter-to-quarter, this particular quarter is slightly elevated to past quarters, here at Cousins. And again, kind of what’s driven that is a little bit of first generation TI that’s been included in there and then a little bit of the -- downtown Atlanta leasing does come with a higher costs. But I think the costs that were attributable to the leases this quarter weren’t necessarily higher than they were in downtown Atlanta a few quarters ago. And so, I think as you look at it, we’re fairly normalized excluding the first generation cost. We would hope as our markets stabilize and Austin and Atlanta and Charlotte that our team will be able to continue to push those down. We think it’s certainly kind of landlord favorable and are starting to see that trend happen as TI and both free rent come down on per year basis.

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst · Stifel.

John, I think it’s just what got in the bucket this quarter, was some expensive leases Downtown, and then our new projects. And one thing, when we -- outside of Huston, we don’t see the pipeline of potential prospects in any of our markets is slowing down when we have less space to lease. But what we see is the decision making taking longer, which is I think just a function of corporate America as it has been for since the great recession is very expense minded. And so, if you are dealing with the big corporation, it goes through a lot of layers before the lease comes back approved.

John Guinee

Analyst · Stifel.

Great, I’ll probably call you offline to get apples to apples here. Thank you.

Gregg Adzema

Analyst · Stifel.

John, I’ve got the luxury of the table in front of me that has long-term trends on kind of second gen CapEx. And just to step back from this quarter and this year and take a look at the longer timeframe, our average second gen CapEx divided by total NOI over the last 10 years has averaged 17%; over the last three years has averaged 18%; and through the first six months this year, 18%. So, when you take a step back and smooth this out for lumpiness, it’s not exceptionally high relative to NOI.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the next question comes from Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisors.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

Just curious if you are seeing any changes in cap rates or values in your markets recently, particularly for value-add or riskier assets?

Colin Connolly

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

Hey, Jed, it’s Collin. I would say -- again, putting aside Huston where I think activity has just really stalled, given that the weakening fundamentals, buyers are looking for a deal where as the owners or sellers are very well-capitalized in the urban markets and have chosen to wait this cycle out. We turn our attention to Atlanta and Charlotte and Austin, I think we’ve seen values kind of hold constant. I’d say they’ve kind of generally plateaued. We are not seeing any more kind of cap rate compression but we haven’t seen it expand either. If there is any change over the last six months and you probably heard this from others, it’s just really the depth of the buyer pool and the number of bidders that are getting to that price, but they generally stayed fairly steady. Candidly, we’ve probably seen fewer value-add type yields that are out in the market. And really I think that’s just a function -- or those that really garner a lot of buyer interest -- and I think it’s just a function at this point in the cycle where markets in our states are predominantly healthy. If you got a value-add asset at this point, there is probably something with it in terms of why it hadn’t leased. So, those maybe performed a little not as well but they are probably lower end quality product. But overall, it’s just steady and a little bit thinner.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

And just shifting to Houston, do you expect further occupancy declines in your Houston portfolio, later this year? And then, just maybe a comment on how subleasing trends are fairing in your Houston submarkets?

Colin Connolly

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

Sure, in terms of our specific portfolio to tackle that first, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we really just don’t have a lot of material expirations over really the next three years in Houston; it’s a big credit to our team on the ground you’ve got out in front of that. And so, as we look forward to the rest of 2016, we’ve already taken care of our largest expiration, which is just 35,000 square feet. And kind of looking out in 2017, I think our team feels pretty good about the activity that we have, but it’s just on a material percentage. So, I don’t think, we’re forecasting big declines within our portfolio over the next couple of years. And just more broadly speaking, in Greenway and the Galleria, again the sublease space relative to some of the other submarkets being out west and really downtown has been far more muted. Out there, you’ve seen sublease space in 6%, 7%, 8% of the inventory available, whereas in Greenway and the Galleria, it’s a much smaller percentage. Certainly, we’re going to continue to see that growth, but the pace of acceleration with the sublease space is definitely moderated. And we’ve heard some people saying, it’s going to across the city could arise the 10 million square feet. I don’t know that it’s going to truly hit there, because it seems that it’s now moderated. But, I think far less impactful in Greenway and the Galleria.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

And just last one, what are your guys’ latest thoughts on the land bank; how much of what remains there is core at this point; and maybe what would be the timing for paring that down further?

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

Yes, Jed. We continue, as Gregg mentioned in his comments, it’s been a big focus of paring it down. And there is not a lot of what’s left on the land that we would consider core; a lot of it is still the hangover from when were in the residential business. And it just takes a while for the market to turn and there be a buyer. Some of it will actually be sold for timber. And so, I think it will take a few more years for us to work our way through. There is a parcel here and there that we want to keep. What we’ve been really watching and making sure that we’re ready to move is that whenever the apartment’s [ph] multifamily cycle current that there are some key size in the submarkets that are so important to us that we would like to buy, so that we’ve got and ready for the next cycle. And, we were talking about one of those yesterday in the market is probably still a little bit early. But, the multifamily really across our footprint for the last four years has been able to outbid office guys on sites. But some of those sites are still undeveloped, and we think there will be some opportunity in next couple of years to give some key core size in these markets, and that will be our intention to do. We’ve always said that we expect to keep land under somewhere in that 3% to 5% of the total portfolio value.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

And just to be clear, these multifamily sites you are referring to, these would be with an eye to rezoning back to office or move forward with multifamily?

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

No, to rezone back office, which is very easy to do.

Gregg Adzema

Analyst · Green Street Advisors.

Just to put some numbers on this, we only have $35 million of land in our balance sheet at the end of the quarter and inside of that $35 million, it’s really 1% of the Company right now. You’ve the Victory of land down, the Texas TFA, which we’re about to start and the NCR phase 2 piece that we’re about to start. So, we have kind of three core pieces of land that comprise the vast majority of that $35 million. In terms of that kind of residential stuff that we still have in the books is $8 million. So, it’s just -- will wind it down, but it’s just not -- it’s absolutely not significant.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And as there are no more questions at the present time, I would like to return the call to Larry Gellerstedt for any closing comments.

Larry Gellerstedt

Analyst

I would like to thank everybody for joining us today. This has been a good solid quarter and really proud of what the team’s accomplished. We’re extraordinarily excited about the completing the upcoming transaction with Parkway and look forward to sharing more on that, as we get further down the road. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.