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Cognizant Technology Solutions Corporation (CTSH)

Q4 2012 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 7, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Cognizant Technology Solutions Fourth Quarter 2012 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to David Nelson, Vice President, Investor Relations and Treasurer at Cognizant. Please go ahead, sir.

David Nelson

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. By now you should have received a copy of the earnings release for the company's fourth quarter and full year 2012 results. If not, a copy is available on our website, cognizant.com. The speakers we have on today's call are Francisco D'Souza, Chief Executive Officer; Gordon Coburn, President; and Karen McLoughlin, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of the comments made on today's call and some of the responses to your questions may contain forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties as described in the company's earnings release and other filings with the SEC. I would now like to turn the call over to Francisco D'Souza. Please go ahead, Francisco.

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst

Thank you, David, and thank you for joining us today. This morning, Cognizant released strong fourth quarter results that capped another year of industry-leading performance. Revenue grew 3% sequentially and 17% over the year-ago quarter to $1.95 billion. This brings full year revenue to $7.35 billion or 20% growth over 2011. As I look back on 2012, I'm proud of our results. Our continued track record of market-leading revenue growth and stable margins fueled further reinvestment in the deepest client relationships, the most robust portfolio of services and the strongest pool of talent we've ever had. We increased the number of strategic clients by 23 to 214, at the same time, raising the results of our annual third-party customer satisfaction survey to the highest level in 4 years. One mark of the strength of our client relationships is that we finished the year with 16 clients, each contributing more than $100 million in annual revenues, and nearly 19,000 net new associates joined our team while we maintained attrition rates that are amongst the lowest in our industry. We recorded the highest employee satisfaction survey results in our history, and we're recognized as one of the happiest places to work. I'd now like to turn to our expected financial performance in 2013 and give you some color around the significant market opportunity we see ahead of us. For the full year 2013, we expect to deliver at least $8.6 billion of revenue, which represents full year growth of at least 17%. Karen will provide you with full details of our expected 2013 financial performance shortly. As we look to 2013, we see a market shift that is reaching a level of importance that I'd like to share with you. For several quarters, we've been speaking to you about the secular shifts…

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

Thank you, Francisco. We're very pleased with our fourth quarter and full year 2012 performance. A couple of quarters ago, we talked about the trend of large, complex and transformational multiservice line deals becoming more common. This trend continues across Horizon 1, as well as Horizon 2. This morning, I'll spend a few minutes focusing on our Horizon 2 services and then, touch base on our industry and geographic performance. Horizon 2, on an aggregate basis, continues to grow faster than the company average. As we mentioned on last quarter's earnings call, our Horizon 2 businesses represent approximately 20% of revenue. This portfolio best illustrates how we are leveraging our client partnerships, which are infused with domain expertise and industry insight, to help clients run different through a set of solutions that move beyond traditional delivery models. Our core BPO offerings continue to show strong growth across industries. Clients are increasingly relying on us to deliver industry-aligned process outsourcing that integrate domain expertise, new technology and innovative commercial models to unlock value. It's important to note that a key part of our BPO strategy and value proposition is to go beyond traditional business process outsourcing, which has been focused principally on helping clients run better, and move to using process outsourcing as the key enabler to help clients run their processes differently. The Everest Group recently named us as a leader in capital markets BPO, validating our efforts to help investment banks, brokerage houses, asset and wealth managers and pension trusts evolve rapidly to the changing market and regulations, as well as changing needs of their sophisticated client base. This recognition comes on the heels of earlier recognition we received in pharmaceutical social media analytics by IDC Health Insights, as well as finance and accounting from Gartner. We continue to…

Karen McLoughlin

Analyst

Thank you, Gordon, and good morning to everyone. As detailed in our press release, our fourth quarter revenue grew 3% sequentially and 17.1% over last year to $1.948 billion, ahead of our guidance of $1.94 billion from last quarter. Our non-GAAP operating margin, which excludes stock-based compensation expense, was 19.7%, within our target range of 19% to 20%, while our GAAP operating margin was 18.3% for the quarter. Overall, 2012 was a strong year for us. We grew by 20% year-on-year while maintaining stable margins and a healthy balance sheet. Consulting and technology services, formerly known as application development, represented 50.4% of revenue. And outsourcing services, formerly known as application management, was 49.6% for the quarter. Consulting and technology services grew 15.2% year-over-year and 1.5% sequentially. Outsourcing services grew 19.1% year-over-year and 4.6% sequentially. For the full year, consulting and technology services represented 51.1% of revenue and grew 20.4%, while outsourcing services represented 48.9% of revenue and grew 19.6%. 34.2% of our revenue came from fixed-priced contracts during the fourth quarter. For the full year 2012, 33.1% of revenues came from fixed-priced contracts, up from 31.7% in 2011, reflecting further acceptance of the managed services model of engagement by our clients. As expected, on a sequential basis, our pricing was stable during the fourth quarter. We closed the quarter with 821 active customers, and the number of accounts which we consider to be strategic increased by 6. This brings our total number of strategic clients to 214. We continue to see a trend towards our newer strategic customers embracing a wider range of Cognizant services at an earlier stage in the relationship. Our diluted share count for the quarter was 303.8 million shares, an increase of approximately 645,000 shares from Q3. During the fourth quarter, we repurchased approximately 400,000 shares…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Rod Bourgeois with Bernstein. Rod Bourgeois - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co., LLC., Research Division: Okay, great. One quick clarification and then a question on the demand environment. In your Q1 guidance, can you just clarify if there's any acquisition revenue content in that? And then, I guess the big question, can you just give us an update on the client budget closing process? And more specifically, as budgets are being finalized, what is the pace of deal ramp-ups as new deals get started in the calendar year to set you up for your important Q2? Are you seeing a good pace of deal ramp-ups this year as you set up for the important Q2? That would be very helpful.

Karen McLoughlin

Analyst

Okay. Rod, it's Karen. I'll take the first part of that around the guidance for Q1, and then I'll it turn over to Gordon and Frank to add some color on the demand environment. In terms of the guidance for Q1, there is less than $10 million of the MediCall acquisition, closed in Q4, and that's small obviously, $15 million incremental for the full year, so that's a couple of million dollars in Q1. And then, we expect the C1 acquisition to close late in the quarter. So in total, the 2 will be less than $10 million for the quarter.

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

And Rod, on your question of the pattern of demand and ramp-up. We're pleased with what we're seeing. Budgets are -- client budgets are tracking the way we want, and when we look at the momentum of stuff that's kicking off, how we think it -- how we come out of Q1 for the important Q2, and I think you are highlighting important, it's tracking the way we'd like to see it at this point of the year. Rod Bourgeois - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co., LLC., Research Division: Okay, great. And then just real quick on that. I mean, in the Healthcare vertical, you ran a little bit of a lull in the latter part of last year in terms of the demand progression there. Are we still in that lull or are you starting to see a turn in that? I mean, you had reasonable sequential growth in Healthcare in Q4, and I'm wondering if that sector or that vertical is getting back on track.

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst

Rod, it's Frank. Look, I was pleased with what we saw in Healthcare in the fourth quarter, but I'm still cautious. I don't think 1 quarter makes a trend yet, so I'd still watch it for another couple of quarters. My hope is that we might be at somewhat of a bottom, but let's wait a couple of quarters before we make a call on whether we're seeing sustained recovery there.

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

And Rod, also remember, in the pharma side of the business, Q3, Q4 tends to be stronger than Q1, Q2, so you do have some lumpiness there. And obviously, that's all baked into our guidance.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Edward Caso with Wells Fargo.

Edward S. Caso - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

I'd love to learn a little bit more about your infrastructure business and your efforts. How much of it is greenfield opportunity versus an in-house solution? And how much of it is takeaway work from, call it, IBM, ADS, CSC? I mean, were you just coming in with a more attractive solution than they historically had offered on their -- as a renew?

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

I don't have the exact proportions, but I would say that about -- approximately half of the work would be where we're going into a situation where the client is running their infrastructure in-house. And we are transforming that in some way, taking the infrastructure management, the management layer to a global remote infrastructure management approach or taking the actual physical infrastructure to a cloud-based approach. In many cases, when a client is -- or in a client's infrastructure environment, some parts of that will be done in -- with a traditional provider that's running their infrastructure in what we think of as a traditional asset-heavy model. And in those cases, which is about, I would say, the other half of the business, we would be taking that and restructuring it to the new cloud-based model, adding a layer of global delivery on top of that for the infrastructure management capability. There's a third category in there, which sort of straddles both of those, which is where we are combining apps and infrastructure together, particularly in our application maintenance business, and we're seeing that when we're maintaining an application, there are a lot of synergies to also being responsible for some portion of the underlying infrastructure for those applications. So that's a different cut where, in many cases, what our value proposition becomes is the ability to run the apps and the infrastructure together in a combined way and drive further efficiency and effectiveness for the client around that portfolio of applications. So I think those are the 3 big sort of approaches or sort of themes as we go to market with infrastructure.

Edward S. Caso - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

So related, is there a bias of success at a different vertical, particularly your 2 big ones, Finance and Healthcare? And is there a geographic bias as well? And I guess, also how many of these deals are advisor-involved deals?

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

I think if I look at the infrastructure business, I would say that of the 2 big verticals at Cognizant, it's probably, I would say, roughly equally split between the pharma -- our pharma clients and our financial services clients, particularly when you look at this trend I talked about of infrastructure combined with applications. That's a trend that banks and pharma clients, I think, are recognizing as important. In terms of advisor-based, I don't think it's any more or less intensive than the rest of our business. Again, I don't have the stats, but I would say just off the top of my head, 1/3 of our deals generally tend to be advisor-led and the rest of our deals, either the client is running themselves or that we've proactively gone out and created where there isn't an advisor or there wasn't an RFP but we sort of created the demand through a piece of proactive selling.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Darrin Peller of Barclays.

Darrin D. Peller - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst

First question was in the fourth quarter we just saw the consulting growth rate actually at a little bit of a lower pace than the full year growth and as well lower -- it's really lower than outsourcing. When we think about 2013, Gordon or maybe Frank, what are you implying is going to be consulting -- what kind of driver is consulting going to bring to your growth rate for the full year? Just because you're saying Europe is getting better and discretionary might be, in general. But I just wondered if there's any upside if consulting comes back, a little more force to your full year 16% organic or 17%-plus outlook.

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

Sure. So similar to what we have done historically, we're always fairly cautious on the -- what you refer to as consulting, which is also app dev, which is all a proxy for more discretionary work. So the -- where we ultimately land the year will probably depend on that discretionary work. But yes, we're certainly taking a more conservative stance going into the year. So our guidance would assume that growth of that is probably a little bit slower than the outsourcing work. At this point, we're seeing good demand in that, but it tends to be lumpy, you don't -- certainly don't want to count on it until it's all done.

Daniel R. Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Good. So that's being conservative already baked into your guidance. And then, if I could get a better...

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. We learned our mistake last year.

Daniel R. Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. One follow-up, then. On the financial services vertical, I know we talked about Healthcare before. But you mentioned banking being strong, can you give a little more color on that? Is that -- more importantly to me, is that sustainable? I mean, is that something we can have confidence is going to last through the year? Because obviously, the financial services sector, obviously, could be volatile.

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst

I'm -- let me say I'm cautiously optimistic. I think that we saw, as you know, an environment over the last few quarters where financial services cut or pulled back quite significantly on spending. I think that created a little bit of pent-up demand in some places. And as I look to 2013, I'm seeing signs that some of that pent-up demand in financial services is being released. And of course, the other side of our financial services segment is the insurance business, which has been doing very well last year, and we think continues to do well this year. So when I put those 2 things together, I think Financial Services as a whole should have a pretty solid year this year. So I remain cautiously optimistic about financial services.

Daniel R. Perlin - RBC Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

And this is -- I think this is the third quarter in a row where it's coming a little better than you probably expected as well. Is that right?

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst

Yes. I think that's right, yes. So I think we sort of started to see the turnaround middle of last year. The fourth quarter was nice, and as we look to the first quarter, it seems to be shaping up well as well.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is coming from the line of Tien-Tsin Huang of JPMorgan. Tien-Tsin T. Huang - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Just wanted to ask, I guess, Frank, any change in competitiveness across your peers? Looks like the growth -- at least in the fourth quarter and perhaps in 1Q, it looks like some of the growth is converging amongst some of the bigger players.

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst

I don't see any, Tien-Tsin, any particular changes in competitiveness. I think that we compete with a set of very good solid players, and I think we hold our own and win our share directly, sometimes more than our fair share. I see that win rate continuing. I feel very, very good about our portfolio of services. And I come back to my opening comments, right, I think as this trend of our clients sort of embracing the dual mandate of run better and run different, I think that's where our differentiation is really coming through relative to the competitive set. We think that what we're able to do is offer clients the ability to address both of those, the run better and run different sides of their business from one global platform versus some of our other competitors that are either focused more on the run different piece or more on the run better piece. We think we do both pretty well for our clients, and that's really why we think we're winning in the marketplace. Tien-Tsin T. Huang - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Great, understood. Just quickly then on Europe, I know that was quite strong, certainly better than our expectations. Just trying to understand, is it limited to a few clients or is it a little bit more broad-based than that? And maybe what type of work are you doing exactly? Can you give us just a couple details? I'm just trying to get a sense of how sustainable, obviously, that could be.

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

Sure. We're clearly seeing in Europe a shift that we were talking about for a while. For the last year, we have been talking about the economic turmoil in the continent is causing the clients to think differently about how they use companies like Cognizant, and we talked about we're starting to win the deals. It would take a little while for those deals to kick in. Those deals are now starting to kick in. It's probably more focused on the run better aspect, and we actually saw our outsourcing business or the nondiscretionary piece grow faster in the continent than the discretionary piece, which, historically, had not been the case. So you're seeing that market open up for the application outsourcing and the application maintenance work. It'll still be a bit lumpy. To be clear, it's still not a large number of clients, so you have a little lumpiness in the ramp-up. But clearly, I think, as I said in my remarks, the -- when there is instability in Europe, it's tough for clients make decisions. Now they're making decisions. And because of the long-term structural changes that they see in their industries and their markets, they realize they have to run their businesses more efficiently and more effectively, and we're part of that solution. Tien-Tsin T. Huang - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Right, right. And going in your company, are you going to lock in and retain the C1 employees you're acquiring in the region?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

We sure hope so. We've spent a lot of time with them. We have a great team on the ground at Cognizant, and the people that we're picking up from C1, from everything we see, are very excited about the opportunity to work with Cognizant and to play a really critical role of being that local presence. We're picking up some just terrific people, and I think they're going to be great leaders in our European business.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of George Mihalos of Crédit Suisse. Georgios Mihalos - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: Just to kind of go back on the Healthcare segment, nice to see the sequential growth over there. Can you kind of talk a little bit about how you feel about the pharma business now going into '13? You guys were quite cautious on the last call. Do you feel a little bit better about it? And then, maybe just from the healthcare exchanges, any way to kind of quantify what the benefit from spending there could be to Cognizant?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

Sure. 2013 is a tough year for the pharmaceutical industry. It's a -- for many companies, it's a low point in the drug pipeline. As we're out talking to our clients, they think '14, '15 should be pretty good, but '13 is going to be hard. So we -- I think we're well positioned certainly compared to others in the industry to work with pharmaceutical clients. But I don't view 2013 as going to be a banner year for growth of our pharmaceutical practice. I think it's a year we'll continue probably to take share from others. But it's -- when you look at the contraction in IT budgets in pharma, it's fairly significant. That's all baked into our guidance. But I'm not sure I would take the Q4 strength as a pattern you want to just project out. Q4 tends to be good for the industry, but '13 will be a tough year. Georgios Mihalos - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: Okay. And just any sort of thoughts on benefits from spending on the healthcare exchanges?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

We're doing consulting work. Certainly, we think there's opportunities both with payers, as well as with government work, related to exchanges. How much of it is incremental spend is the real question versus shifting in spend. So I view the healthcare reform as neutral to positive for us, and it's really a question of does it trigger incremental spend or not. Georgios Mihalos - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: Okay, great. And just last question from me. You've got 17% revenue growth, you're guiding EPS up, on a GAAP basis, 15% or 16% on the adjusted basis. Just what sort of accounting for the delta over there? Is that just a little bit more investment spend somewhere? Or maybe kind of help us think through that.

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

Very simple. We exceeded our margin target a bit in 2012. We were at the extreme high end or just slightly over our margin target. So our guidance for next year assumes we're well within our range, actually on the newly adjusted non-GAAP basis, at the high end of the range. But if you go back to what it would have been under the old thing, it's sort of the upper, upper end, so it's getting margin back to where it should be.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi.

Ashwin Shirvaikar - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

When you say that clients are adopting more of the offerings earlier in the relationship, is there any way to quantify that, maybe in terms of your growth rate for strategic clients or provide some color how to quantify it?

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst

Ashwin, I don't have a clear way that I can give you an easy quantification of it. I think if you just look over the -- if you look at a couple of different -- you triangulate on it in a couple of different ways, one is obviously the -- if you look at just the raw growth rates of our newer service offerings, those are growing much faster than the company average, and certainly, much of that growth is coming from existing clients. So that's one data point that supports that assertion. The second is that if you look at our newer practices and you look at how quickly they get to certain revenue milestones, so if you look at Horizon 2, as you know, last quarter, we said that those were approaching 20% of revenue, if you look at the period of time in which we've been able to achieve that, it's obviously a lot quicker than many of our traditional services, that might have taken us a decade to get to the same size and scale where these are today. So we're seeing the new service lines ramping up much more quickly. Again, it's a sign that with the portfolio of clients that we have, the strength of our client relationships, the relationships that our field maintains with our clients that we're able to take essentially new service offerings, get them into the pipeline very, very quickly and ramp them up fast. And that's why as we add new capabilities, both in Horizon 3 and through organic and inorganic acquisition, we feel very confident that we can take those capabilities rapidly to the clients. The last data point I will maybe point to is that, as you know, throughout last year, when we talked about Horizon 3, we talked to you about the fact that these were long-term investments that we were making and that we expected good adoption, but we were being sort of more modest in our assumptions about rates of adoption. When we took inventory at the end of last year, we found that, particularly as it relates to the SMAC portion of Horizon 3, social, mobile, analytics and cloud, we were already doing work for 60% of our top 100 clients. So again, another data point that shows that adoption is happening of our new services and happening much faster than traditionally we'd have expected.

Ashwin Shirvaikar - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, that's useful. Is there a target maybe for what Horizon 1 versus 2 versus 3 will look like and then in terms of percentages, say, 1 year out?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

We don't have a specific target other than we clearly would expect Horizon 2 and 3 to grow faster than Horizon 1. How much faster? Obviously, we hope it'd be material, but we don't set specific targets.

Ashwin Shirvaikar - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And last question really is more for clarification. Should we read something into your commentary on the non-GAAP presentation being changed? Is it maybe indicative of more of a focus on M&A going forward?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

I would not read a whole lot into it. It aligns with what a lot of other tech companies does. It gives us a little more flexibility to make sure when we do earn-outs, we do it to optimize shareholder value. Clearly, as we move more into Horizon 3, there'll be more IP-based acquisitions, which may have a little bit more intangible amortization. But I would not -- I clearly would not view this as a signal of a fundamental change in strategy. Our acquisition strategy remains quite consistent.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is coming from the line of Julio Quinteros with Goldman Sachs.

Paul B. Thomas - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst

This is Paul Thomas for Julio. Maybe following up just on that last question about M&A. With the C1 acquisition and your commentary in Europe, might we see any more focus or acquisitions targeted at that region?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

The short answer is if we could find the right things, absolutely. We think -- if you look at particularly the continent, it's less than 10% of revenue for us. Obviously, when you look at global IT spend, it's a lot more than that. So certainly, we think there's untapped opportunity there. But we always and will continue to be highly selective in the acquisitions that we do.

Paul B. Thomas - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst

And then, any color on headcount, hiring plans for 2013? I guess in light of a little more acquisitions this year, what are your plans for the upcoming year?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

We'll continue to hire. We don't give -- we give revenue guidance. We don't give headcount guidance. The great thing about Cognizant is because of our brand, we have just a tremendous pipeline of people who want to work for us. How many we hire will depend on demand and equally important are what skills we need. So we'll hire based on demand.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is coming from the line of Moshe Katri of Cowen and Company.

Moshe Katri - Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Can you -- when you're looking at your bid proposal [ph] pipeline and your backlog today, can you kind of give us a feel on how does it compare versus the same time last year? And I think that's going to be an important kind of proxy for us to get a good feel on visibility down the road.

Karen McLoughlin

Analyst

Sure. So, Moshe, it's Karen. So I think based on where we are today versus where we are -- were last year, we actually feel very good about both the backlog and the pipeline. It's up a little bit. I think, as Frank alluded to earlier, our win ratios continue to be strong. So I think at this point, obviously, client budgets are just getting finalized and so forth now. But right now, the pipeline is very robust, and we're feeling very good about that.

Moshe Katri - Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

And then, final question, can you talk a bit about the U.K. market? And is it still roughly about 15% of revenues today?

Karen McLoughlin

Analyst

So the U.K. is in total -- total Europe is about 17% of revenue. The U.K. is about 2/3 of that. And we saw actually very good sequential growth in the U.K. this quarter and actually very strong development -- or consulting and technology services growth in the U.K.

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

It's kind of interesting, Moshe. You're seeing a divergence between the U.K. and the continent. So U.K., historically, there've been a lot of maintenance work and so forth. Now we're seeing the development work kick in. On the continent it's almost the exact opposite story, where because of all of the cultural issues, labor issues, it's more focused on the discretionary work historically. Now we're seeing the maintenance work kick in, in the continent. So different drivers in those 2 regions.

Moshe Katri - Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

And is that still mostly retail and financial services?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

No, it's going beyond that now.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is coming from the line of Glenn Greene of Oppenheimer Funds. Glenn Greene - Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division: I wanted to sort of follow up on some of the Europe questions because your commentary sounds very consistent with at least one of your peers. And wondering if you could get more granular with kind of your growth expectations at least relative to the company average for Europe. Is it sort of a sustainable sort of outsized sort of growth mode you're kind of in or you're seeing in Europe at this point?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

So let's not talk quarter-to-quarter because Europe, as I said, will be more lumpy. But when you kind of look at annualized basis and so forth, clearly, when you think about the continent, penetration rates are lower, you don't have the law of large numbers and you have this meaningful secular change towards increased comfort without offshoring. So when I look out over the coming years, certainly, we would expect the continent in particular to grow faster than company average. But as I said, I'm not sure I'd have that expectation quarter-to-quarter. You are going to have some lumpiness just because the number of clients is still relatively small. Glenn Greene - Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division: Okay. And then -- and Gordon, I wanted to drill down on what you're now calling consulting and tech services. Could you help us sort of piece part how much of that is the consulting versus the app development side? And also just curious why you're sort of changing the definition. Is that sort of anything we should being reading into?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

So let's start with the definition. Our old definition of development and maintenance was reflective of what our business was 5 years ago. And as we launched consulting, as we launched BPO, all that kind of stuff, we kind of forced them into those 2 categories, and we started talking about those categories as discretionary and nondiscretionary. So we used -- started this year to really change the name, not what's actually in each bucket but change the name to reflect what's really there. So I won't read that as anything other than our old definitions are 5 years old and didn't really reflect the business. When you look at technology and consulting -- consulting and technology services, clearly it's heavily weighted towards the technology component. But consulting is a growing piece of it and strategically, incredibly important, but still it's certainly a small piece of revenue compared to the core technology. Glenn Greene - Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division: I mean is it sort of getting up to 10% type of revenue or is that too high?

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

It would still be less than 10%.

Karen McLoughlin

Analyst

Total company.

Gordon J. Coburn

Analyst

Sorry. To be clear, of total company.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of George Price of BB&T Capital Markets. George A. Price - BB&T Capital Markets, Research Division: I wanted to just focus a little bit more on kind of the margins and EPS a little bit. The 2013 GAAP EPS guidance probably viewed as a little light relative to expectations. When I ran the numbers quickly, it seemed like you were implying in the middle of your non-GAAP operating margin target, 19% to 20%. I know that's changed. I didn't really have the chance yet to fully factor that in. But I guess, just a few questions around that. That range is still 19% to 20%, if I heard you correctly. If it changes radically as a result of what you -- or what the impact in 2013 is from the add-backs. If you gave that, I apologize that I missed it. And where do you sit within that range? What's implied in your 2013 EPS guidance?

Karen McLoughlin

Analyst

Yes. So this is Karen. So basically, in the guidance, historically under the old definition of non-GAAP operating margin, we would've assumed a non-GAAP operating margin target of about 19.6% going into the beginning of the year. This year, we've actually taken that up to 19.9%. So clearly, still within the range of 19% to 20% but because of the adjustment we've made to the non-GAAP operating margin definition, we did take that up about 30 basis points to 19.9% to offset the acquisition amortization adjustment. So it's essentially equivalent year-over-year. George A. Price - BB&T Capital Markets, Research Division: Okay. Now is that -- is the new range then -- is the new range higher? Is that in the middle of the new range for 2013?

Karen McLoughlin

Analyst

No, the range will continue to be 19% to 20%, so that we can obviously continue to make the appropriate investments in the company. George A. Price - BB&T Capital Markets, Research Division: Okay. And if I could, just quickly on Cognizant Business Consulting, which I think is really a key part of the business going forward. Wondered if you could give a little bit of an update perhaps on the number of consultants, maybe how that capability is evolving relative to some of the large MNCs out there and any more detail maybe on how that CBC factors into your plan for the year.

Francisco D'Souza

Analyst

It's Frank. Let me try to address the qualitative aspects of that. At this point, CBC -- so let me just say that if you look over the last couple years, we're very, very pleased with how CBC has grown and evolved and the fact that I believe it's having really outside impact in our client relationships into our business relative to the size of revenue it represents. Gordon gave some case studies and some qualitative data points around the kind of impact we're having with CBC, which I think is very significant. Particularly as we engage more and more with our clients on this notion of running differently, CBC becomes a very key enabler. CBC now is about 3,000 consultants, give or take. And I think it's worth pointing out that we take a relatively pure definition of consulting. So when I talk about 3,000 consultants, these are pure, what I think of, as management consultants. These are not folks that are doing blueprinting for technology implementation and so on and so forth. This is really management consulting work that we're doing for clients. We're building this out across all of the industry verticals we serve, so the 3,000 folks are aligned by the industry that we serve. And we're also building out broad capabilities that go across all of -- each of the industries that we serve that are more generic in nature. So we expect to continue to invest in consulting. We're continuously looking at ways to accelerate that growth. I think that we're pleased, but we still feel like we've got work to do in certain areas, particularly when I look at geographies around the world, to ramp up consulting even more strongly in those parts of the world. And I think that was really all that we had time for. So let me just wrap up by thanking you all for joining us today. And just to summarize, I think we're very pleased with our 2012 results, and we're looking forward to a strong 2013. We're very encouraged that our clients find our value proposition increasingly relevant in the midst of changing market dynamics and that they continue to turn to us, not only to help them run better but also to help them run and adapt and change to run differently. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's Cognizant Technology Solutions Fourth Quarter 2012 Earnings Conference Call. You may now disconnect.