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Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Fri, Dec 11, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Investors Real Estate Trust Second Quarter Fiscal 2016 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Karleene Knight, Finance Manager. Please go ahead.

Karleene Knight

Analyst

IRET's Form 10-Q was filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission yesterday after the close, and our earnings release and supplemental disclosure package was posted to our website at iret.com and also furnished yesterday on Form 8-K. Before we begin our remarks this morning, I want to remind you that during the call, we will be making forward-looking statements which are predictions, projections or other statements about future events. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may materially differ because of factors discussed in yesterday's Form 10-Q and the comments made during this conference call and in the Risk Factors Section of our annual and quarterly reports and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Investors Real Estate Trust does not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements. With me today from management are Tim Mihalick, IRET's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ted Holmes, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call over to Tim Mihalick.

Timothy Mihalick

Analyst

Thank you, Karleene, and good morning, everyone. Second quarter of fiscal year 2016 was the most active quarter in the company's history. During the quarter, we disposed of 39 office properties, 1 healthcare property and 15 retail properties for gross sales price of $372 million, or approximately 18.5% of our gross asset base as of this time last year, October 31, 2014. That much activity has obviously impacted our reported financials this quarter, and I believe we can provide some additional clarity to our activities this morning. We will continue to execute our strategy of bringing our developments online, acquiring accretive assets and growing NOI in our same-store segments. Although the quarter saw the impact of expenses relating to our continued transformation, our overall performance year-to-date was generally in line with our expectations. For the quarter, our FFO per share was $0.06 and $0.22 for the quarter and year-to-date, respectively, per NAREIT definition, which includes the impact of prepayment penalties on our dispositions and default interest on the CMBS loan. Excluding those nonroutine items, FFO would have been $0.12 and $0.29, respectively. I believe it is important to reiterate that we expected to see an impact on our NOI as we are working hard to replace the income from the assets we sold. And we believe that will be accomplished as we recognize the positive impact from our announced acquisitions and the delivery of our development pipeline. Lost in the discussion surrounding our dispositions were 3 acquisitions we purchased that fit our strategic initiative. We acquired 2 multi-family projects: a 74-unit project in Grand Forks, North Dakota, for $6.5 million and a 276-unit project in Rochester, Minnesota for $56 million, both with a projected initial yield of approximately 6%. We also placed into service a 70,000 square foot medical facility…

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Thank you, Tim. Good morning, everyone. As Tim indicated, IRET completed its busiest quarter of activity in its history. We detail the $372 million of sales that occurred during the quarter on Page 22 of the 10-Q. We expected that these events would have a negative impact on the performance period with regard to the company's short-term operating results and they did. But we anticipated this, with the understanding we are now increasing our focus on our operating platform and company operations to our core real estate segments. To provide some context to our operating results for the quarter, adding back the one-time deduction of loss on extinguishment of debt and default interest carried, FFO per share would have been $0.12 for the quarter. This, again, was expected as the company incurred various expense increases for the quarter compared to the same quarter in the prior year as a result of a reallocation of continuing costs to our same-store multi-family portfolio that were once spread across commercial segment costs as well. I will speak to these in a moment. For the company as a whole, total revenue for the year-to-date 6-month period ending October 31, 2015, was up 2.8% compared to the same period one year ago. Total expenses increased by 4.6%, of which 3.6% was depreciation. Total revenue for the 3-month period ending October 31, 2015, was up 2.1% compared to the same period one year ago. Total expenses increased by 12.6%, led by increases in maintenance, management, insurance and depreciation. Speaking specifically to same-store net operating income performance for all segments: For the 3 months ending October 31, 2015, compared to the same period one year ago, net operating income across all segments experienced a decline of 5.7%; mostly, again, affected by our same-store multi-family operations. Continued growth…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Carol Kemple of Hilliard Lyons.

Carol Kemple

Analyst

Can you give us any update on your CMBS loan that you have with the special servicer?

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Carol, this is Ted. We're in discussions with them, as we speak. There has been some progress and dialogue for the last 30 days, which we're encouraged by. But that loan is still with us and we're in a discussion with them about our options. So we're still in that discussion with them.

Carol Kemple

Analyst

Will we see that the default interest related to that loan in future quarters so that's taken care of? Or was that just a one-time item with the second quarter?

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Well, that default interest flows through our discontinued operations within our income statement. And our anticipation is when that loan is gone via what we think will be a transfer to the servicer, that interest would be gone and not be part of the income statement going forward.

Carol Kemple

Analyst

But until then, we'll see a similar amount in the coming quarters, is that safe to assume?

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Well, our anticipation is that this matter with this servicer and lender is completed this quarter. So I don't know that this as something that will go on in future quarters. We expect this to be resolved in the next 30 days.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Drew Babin of Robert W. Baird & Company.

Drew Babin

Analyst

And so looking at your top 5 markets in the multi-family portfolio, Bismarck, North Dakota, Grand Forks, Billings, Montana are all -- I guess, Billings is in the top 5, but they're all very important markets. So can you talk about what's happening with the large occupancy declines in the markets in that area that you do not define as energy-related? The decline in revenues, the expenses aside, is relatively large and we're just wondering what drivers are behind that.

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Well, Drew, this is Ted. This part of the country, given the activity with regard to energy and even commodities 5 years ago, with the prices where they were, saw a tremendous amount of supply come into some of these markets from a construction standpoint, and we're now seeing that from a competitive standpoint. So we're having to, on the expense side, we're really having to hire additional high-functioning employees to help maintain occupancy in these markets. And again, we're trying to solve to -- 95%. So if we're at 93%, 94%, we're a little short in those markets, but we're still very competitive. And we've got market-leading product up there that we've built, but it's a pretty competitive market. But you're still looking at a part of the country, for example, Bismarck that it's median household income exceeds the national average by 10%. You've got population growth that's double the national average, if not better than that. You've got a very dynamic economy up there and we were trying to be competitive, but there is a lot of supply that's come on.

Timothy Mihalick

Analyst

Drew, this is...

Drew Babin

Analyst

And as you look forward, is there a certain point in time where that supply begins to sort of taper off as it has in Williston with pretty much everything that's going to be developed sort of out there at this point.

Timothy Mihalick

Analyst

Yes, Drew, this is Tim. As a follow-up to that, we are beginning to see that back off. The supply is starting to reduce and I think we're seeing some stabilization in those markets. And in the markets that you referenced, additionally, we'd seen as high as 97% occupancy in some of those markets. So we've seen the decline on our end as supply has come online.

Drew Babin

Analyst

Okay. And I just had one question on the 71 France development. Percentage leased on that declined about 6% since last quarter. And I was just wondering what's going on with that. That's something I'm not used to seeing.

Timothy Mihalick

Analyst

Yes, that was just additional units that were brought online. So the overall phasing in of the project looked like there was a drop in occupancy when, in essence, there was more units occupied from more units to occupy.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from David Daglio of The Boston Company.

David Daglio

Analyst

Can you be a little more specific about what's happening with rents in the areas that are tangentially related to the oil market? And what type of givebacks, if any, you plan on giving over the next couple of years? And then you made a comment that you believed that it's stabilizing. Why do you think it's stabilizing?

Timothy Mihalick

Analyst

Dave, this is Tim Mihalick. I assume -- are you talking about givebacks regarding rent concessions and those kinds of things?

David Daglio

Analyst

Yes.

Timothy Mihalick

Analyst

Okay. I think as we just talked about, we continue to see some supply that came on here within the last 12 months. A lot of that now is coming to market and that's certainly causing some competition and some reduction in overall rents. We've been reactive to the market, much as our competitors have and feel that, at this point in time, we're not going to see additional units come online. And as we begin to look out over the next 6 to 8 to 12 months, stabilization will begin to occur and we're comfortable with our position in those markets and being able to maintain the rents that we now are asking, that are part of -- if you're able to see the presentation, we've shown on that.

David Daglio

Analyst

Okay.

Ted Holmes

Analyst

David, one thing to follow-up on that. This is Ted Holmes. We've been operating in these markets for a long time and developing in these markets. And we built really a best-in-class product. And with respect to the western half of North Dakota where we've developed, we've mitigated some of that with our joint venture partners being introduced to our projects. And at this -- and with that, we also know that a lot of the housing out in that part of the state is probably going to go away in the next 12 to 18 months with respect to what they call the man camps. And so those bodies are going to need a place to live. So that's one of the reasons we think it will stabilize. Where that's at is that 75% occupancy, 85% to be determined. But certainly, we've gone down in occupancy in that specific part of the state. But in the balance of the state and in our region in this -- part of the country, we've done quite well in occupancy.

David Daglio

Analyst

Good. So you expect -- for the rest of Montana, you expect occupancy to be stable the next couple of months? You think it softens a bit?

Timothy Mihalick

Analyst

Dave, this is Tim. I think maybe a little more softening, but relatively stable as we go forward. I wouldn't see -- expect to see much of a drop in our occupancy numbers.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Timothy Mihalick, CEO, for any closing remarks.

Timothy Mihalick

Analyst

Thank you. And again, thank you for taking your time this morning to hear the update of the IRET story. As we stated earlier, we continue to be in transition as we transform our portfolio. We're excited about the prospects of taking IRET into the future and we appreciate your interest. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everybody.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.