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Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, Mar 13, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. And welcome to the Investors Real Estate Trust Third Quarter Fiscal 2015 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please also note that today’s event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Ms. Cindy Bradehoft, Investors Real Estate Trust Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Cindy Bradehoft

Analyst

Thank you. IRET’s Form 10-Q was filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission yesterday after the close, and our earnings release and supplemental disclosure package was posted to our website at iret.com and also furnished yesterday on Form 8-K. Before we begin our remarks this morning, I want to remind you that during the call we will be making forward-looking statements, which are predictions, projections, or other statements, about future events. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risk and uncertainties. Actual results may materially differ because of factors discussed in yesterday's Form 10-Q and the comments made during this conference call, and in the Risk Factors section of our annual and quarterly reports and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Investors Real Estate Trust does not undertake any duty to update forward-looking statements. With me today from management are Tim Mihalick, IRET’s President and Chief Executive Officer; Ted Holmes, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and Diane Bryantt, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer. I would now like to turn the call over to Tim Mihalick.

Tim Mihalick

Analyst

Thank you, Cindy, and good morning, everyone. I am excited to speak to you this morning about IRET accomplishing a strategic goal of AFFO dividend coverage that I have scheduled. When we established this goal in the summer of 2013, our anticipated coverage to be reached by the end of fiscal year 2015, now we have maintained coverage of the last two quarters and the trailing 12 months, I want to take a moment and thank those that have helped IRET achieve this goal. I have said this before as I never get tired of repeating it, IRET employees from the leasing agents and the maintenance staff, the HR Department and up to the top are second to none. They are committed as employees of IRET to work on behalf of our shareholders and I would like to compliment them for doing that work everyday. Their diligence and hard work is what has allowed IRET to accomplish this goal ahead of schedule. Their commitment gives me assurance that we will be able to maintain coverage in the quarters ahead. On January 23, I announced a significant change in our strategic plan. I had previously alerted the market of our intent to exit the retail segment of our portfolio in fiscal year 2016. But after examining the strong demand for office properties, I announced the plan to accelerate that segment of our portfolio as well. I'm very confident as we complete a significant change, we will have a stronger balance sheet that will be easier for analysts and investors to understand. Diane will provide an update on where we are at in this process later in the call. Our long and proven track record speaks to the abilities of this management team to perform. I believe this team is positioned for…

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Thank you, Tim. Good morning everyone. IRET had another solid quarter with FFO of $0.17 per share for the third quarter ending January 31, 2015, which repeated the strong performance from the second quarter ending October 31, 2014 and up from $0.14 per share, reported two quarters ago. We are also excited that AFFO was reported at $0.15 per share for the third quarter ending January 31, 2015 versus $0.11 per share for the comparative period one year ago. Looking back four quarters of AFFO performance, we have now covered our current dividend distribution one quarter ahead of our previously discussed timing. While significant, we realized that ultimately management’s focus should be our continued efforts on our FFO growth strategy which can then translate into strengthening AFFO. With that in mind, we firmly believe our decision to explore the sale of our office and retail portfolios, if successful, should provide more predictable income stream and allow IRET to deploy its resources into less capital intensive property segments, further enhancing company value and the predictability of FFO and AFFO results. As for the quarter performance reflected in our income statement, let me point out a few highlights. Total revenue for the nine months ending January 31, 2015 were $212.4 million or 6.6% higher than the comparative period one year ago. Total revenue for the company for the three-month ending period January 31, 2015 was $73 million or again 6.6% higher than the previous quarter ending October 31, 2014. Clearly, the pace of our successful delivery of development projects and our continued improving performance in our multifamily and healthcare operations are having an increasingly weighted positive impact on total revenue for the company. As for expenses, if we remove non-cash impairment amortization related to non-real estate investments, depreciation and amortization, and our…

Diane Bryantt

Analyst

Thank you, Ted and good morning everyone. I will be addressing key areas of operations and the transactions to the balance sheet, including developments, acquisitions, dispositions, same-store results and our overall investment strategy, starting with our development, acquisition and disposition activity in the quarter. As we have discussed over the past couple of years, we determined that we had opportunity to provide growth and create value by delving into our market. We are very pleased with the events in the third quarter of fully delivering five projects to the market, placing a $103 million of assets to work. More of these projects are multi-family, consisting of 592 units and one 5,000 square foot single tenant retail facility. Year-to-date total development placed in service is a $113 million. These multi-family assets placed in service in the quarter are in various phases of lease-up given the timing of delivery in the quarter. Currently occupancy rates are ranging from 30% at our Arcata Apartments that just opened in January to 85% at the Commons that was completed in December 2014. Market rents are at or are exceeding pro forma and we are looking forward to the positive contribution to revenue in the fourth quarter. Still in the pipeline to be delivered is 269 million of property within the next three quarters, which represents an additional 955 units of multi-family, a 130,000 square feet of healthcare, and 203,000 square feet of industrial space. Underwriting cap rates on these projects are ranging from 6% to 13%. Although we did not acquire any income producing assets in the quarter, we do have under contract to purchase 24.3 million of multi-family assets with underwriting cap rates estimated to be at 6.5%, this bringing a total of 293 million of new income producing assets to the balance sheet…

Tim Mihalick

Analyst

Thanks, Diane. And I will ask the moderator to accept questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Dave Rodgers from Baird. Please go ahead with your question.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst

Yes. Good morning. Maybe Diane, I’ll start with you. A question on multi-family occupancy. I mean, you finished the quarter at 94, which was up year-over-year, but down I think sequentially 150, 160 basis points. So just wanted to dive a little bit more into that, and is that mostly seasonal? And then maybe a second part to that occupancy question, flipping over to concessions, can you kind of talk about the absolute level of concessions that you are offering in terms of either months free or any move-in specials with regard to Dakota Commons, Renaissance Heights especially in the energy impacted corridor?

Tim Mihalick

Analyst

Dave, we are going to have to touch on that for you.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst

Sure.

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Sure. Good morning, Dave. Well, maybe I’ll take the second half first. Just with respect to the projects themselves and concessions if I -- I guess I’d refer you to page 19 of the Q. And if you run down by project the Commons at Southgate, we are about -- we are 90-plus percent occupied there. Going down to Cypress Court, 90% occupied plus. In fact, we’ve locked in our long-term debt on that project. Red 20, coming off the winter, we are roughly 80% occupied now. Arcata, that project again just came online in January, we are 30% occupied there. These are some tough times of year to lease in the Midwest, you can imagine through December, January and February. So we are pleased with the lease-up in these projects so far. Renaissance Heights, roughly 60% occupied today, Chateau is just being completed in June, so really no material leasing there. And then Deer Ridge, Cardinal point, and France, so those leasing activities will begin this year of this spring full force, but really no leasing there yet, as those projects aren’t near completion. As far as concessions, the company as a whole runs rate now round figure about $100,000 a month. I think that was maybe December and January’s trend for concessions across the multi-family portfolio. I would tell you just with the discussion about energy, roughly $4000 of that total was in Minot and Williston. So really no material concessions at this point in those markets, and I’ll tell you in Minneapolis/St. Paul the same is true. Really no confessions at any of our lease-up locally here so far, and we are actually at or exceeding our pro forma rents. The company, as a whole, we will see a seasonal dip in the winter months, but certainly we feel pretty pleased with where we are at with our multi-family occupancy as a whole.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst

Okay. And are you seeing any pressure on shorter length of lease term for residential? What is your average length, particularly in Minot and in Williston and the energy impacted areas and getting a sense of any change in kind of consumer behavior?

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Well, I wouldn’t be able to quote you a length of months here on this call. I can certainly follow up with that and get that. But I'll tell you that we will go down to a six month lease in certain situations, but most of the time it is a nine or 12 month lease that we are targeting both in Minneapolis/St. Paul, in all of our markets for that matter, and in the energy impacted markets. So it's really a nine or 12 month lease that we are going for.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst

Okay. That’s good. And then I guess maybe final on the energy would be, you do have some additional land out there, any of that additional land exposed in the energy corridors? And I guess I’d tie that into your comment on taking a modest impairment on a couple of land parcels in the quarter, change in holding, change in plans and anything impacting from energy there?

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Well. I think we’ve taken a pretty measured approach here with respect to our strategy in Williston specifically. And we do have two other parcels that we purchased with the existing Renaissance Heights development parcel that’s been constructed on, that will be complete later this year. We have the ability to add potentially another roughly 500 units, should we choose to do that. That is not in process at this point. This is early. We think in this energy is downturn with respect to the price of oil. That will find its own equilibrium like as Diane pointed out, we’ve got joint ventures in that market. We’ve been out there for now over three years with our measured pace of development. And at this point don’t foresee any additional construction, but we will wait and see how our Renaissance Heights project leases up this year. And we have banked land in all of our markets and we’ve represented that and that’s pointed out in our filings, anywhere from St. Cloud to Rochester to Monticello, I mean we’ve got parcel shovel ready, should we choose to attack another wave of development. But that’s still in discussion and we’d certainly like to deliver for you and others and our shareholders what's in the pipeline currently, before we take on additional large waves of developments.

Tim Mihalick

Analyst

Dave, I will ask Diane to give you a quick update on the impairments you reflected.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst

Great. Thanks.

Diane Bryantt

Analyst

Hey, Dave, this is impairment -- the land -- one, was a parcel next to Western Retail that we recently sold and closed on. So it was just the parcel land that was been held for future developments. I believe we have seen that market and so we took a look at the land what’s remaining and put that in a -- broke that down to fair value and put that in a position for sales. And the other piece of land was in Eagan, Minnesota, directly next to a commercial office building that we would be also looking to dispose off. So this was -- we actually have an offer to purchase that land and so again, this was just a mark to fair value. So those two pieces of land, nothing to do with the energy impact market, but just overall strategy of geographic footprint and segment types.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst

Great. Last for me would be on the dispositions. Looks like you have a little over $50 million to close, either this quarter or into the part of the next fiscal year under contract. Can you talk about, kind of the overall cap rate on expected sales of the combined assets either separately or together?

Ted Holmes

Analyst

Dave, this is Ted. I would say the cap rate on this is going to vary because of the occupancy in some of these buildings isn’t as -- I’d pick one of the assets as an office assets Downtown, Minneapolis and that particular buyer has a redevelopment plan for that asset, is not going to use it specifically for office. So, cap rate maybe not applicable. But I think with respect to the other office assets that are well occupied, you are going to see rate around at 8% to 8.5% cap rate on those sales.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst

Okay. Yes. Thanks for all the color. Really appreciate it.

Tim Mihalick

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Dave.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Kucera from Wunderlich Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · your question.

Yes. Hi. Good morning, guys.

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

Good morning, Craig.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · your question.

Your liquidity looks pretty good closing out third quarter. You continued to issue a lot of stocks in the drift. Obviously, the stock has come in about 15%, from where we were through most of the second quarter. Is there any way that you can slow that down, or do you have a thought on kind of how to manage that process when your stock price has come in so much in the last several months?

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

Craig, this is Tim. As we’ve looked at that, we’ve recognized that same challenge and we’ll -- was under consideration. With the proceeds that will be coming forth on the sales and there is certainly something we will examine. And especially as you indicated with the dropdown in the share price, it is not something we want to give away. So, we will understand and take a look at that.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · your question.

Okay. And with -- obviously the change in oil prices and your markets are -- the number of energy centers, have you seen any delay in new projects starting or any shift in supply in some of those markets or most of your competition continuing to keep their foot on the accelerator?

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

No. I think, again, we’ve seen some pullback and some decisions on whether or not they want to move forward. I think we’ll continue to see that. We’ve talked about in the past having our boots on the ground. It really helped us understand the need in those markets. And I suspect that we’ll move forward maybe over the next 12 to 24 months. The buying opportunities that we thought may come from other developers will come to fruition but that’s an opinion that I have and one that I think that it could happen. But there is some slow down. It’s a pull back from other investors.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · your question.

Got it. And I know you mentioned that your development yields are anywhere from 6 to 13 and you are typically running ahead of expectations. Can you put a number on how far you are running ahead of expectations and maybe sort of where the current averages on your projects under currently everywhere?

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

Ted will take it.

Ted Holmes

Analyst · your question.

Greg, this is Ted. I would tell you we’re going to average when you smooth it out across all of the developments. We’re going to be right around at 8% return across the spectrum. I think it's probably a good -- and I think we pointed that out before. But it’s going to vary from energy impacted all the way down to Minneapolis-Saint Paul where you’re going to really be tight on the low end of that scale as far as return. As far as the timing of these projects, if I understood your question correctly, I mean, we’re basically on track. We’re little bit behind on a couple projects but we are coming in at budget really with no material overages on these projects at this point. So we're optimistic we continue to deliver this on the balance sheet with the returns that we think are commensurate with the risks.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · your question.

Got it. And is that -- looking at your anticipated constructions complete to date in the supplement, not a lot of change from last quarter, in fact, if you actually -- looks like they pulled forward maybe a quarter or so. How is the winter event there and is that likely to slow things down or are you sort of speaking currently, you don't expect things to really move around from what’s in a supplement?

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

We’ve had a really, really mild winter here, Greg. So that's really been helpful. So I think the timing that you see in the queue on those projects is still very much on track.

Craig Kucera

Analyst · your question.

Okay. Great. I’ll get back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Carol Kemple from Hilliard Lyons. Please go ahead with your question.

Carol Kemple

Analyst · your question.

Good morning.

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

Hi Carol.

Ted Holmes

Analyst · your question.

Good morning Carol.

Carol Kemple

Analyst · your question.

Hi. Have you all got any initial feedback at this point for the portfolios that you’ve just put on the market?

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

I think to this date we have not really got any feedback from interested buyers. Certainly a lot of information has been delivered. And we’re probably two to three weeks away from having complete packages out in the market. So at this point, no.

Carol Kemple

Analyst · your question.

So at this point, you have a date when you want all the bids to be in, buyers are just -- is that still up in the air?

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

I think timeline wise Carol, probably looking at late fall by the time when full transaction will potentially be complete, assuming we move down the road, what we laid out for ourselves. It’s probably into that September, October, November timeframe.

Carol Kemple

Analyst · your question.

Okay. Thank you.

Tim Mihalick

Analyst · your question.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, I’m showing no additional questions. I’d like to turn the conference call back over for any closing remarks.

Tim Mihalick

Analyst

Thank you. Again this is Tim Mihalick with closing remarks and to say thank you for taking time out of your morning to listen in on the update to IRET. We’re very excited about the performance of these first few quarters of fiscal year 2015 and look forward to the future. As I stated earlier, we’ve got a strong team in place from top to bottom and we all have the best interest of our shareholders at heart. And we are excited about what we can deliver in these markets and to take advantage of the opportunities that are in front of us. Thank you for listening in and for your time.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending. You may now disconnect your telephone lines.