Brian Shepherd
Analyst · Benchmark.
Matt, appreciate you joining and appreciate the questions. I think on a couple different fronts, from an organic side in the market, we actually think the market is benefiting us because we -- typically what we see is even if companies are wanting to dial back some of their OpEx from a customer base standpoint, what that often means is they want to consolidate the spend they give with fewer vendors or fewer partners. So where we've proven ourselves and we perform well with mission-critical software, it typically means even if they're cutting costs, they're cutting other competitors or other vendors, and they're consolidating more with those who deliver best for them. I think that's moving in our advantage. I think the fact that digital customer experience is a gamechanger and the main competitive advantage for all these brands. They know they've got to improve their customer engagement. They have to improve their NPS, and they actually have to take cost out. So if you have a proven SaaS platform like CSG does in a lot of these spaces, we can help them take costs out, improve customer experience, improve cross-sell and retention. So this whole move of digital engagement is playing to our advantage on the organic side. So again, we love what we're seeing on the demand side of the business, and it bodes well for our ongoing growth organically next year, which we think will be higher than what we've had in 2022. On the inorganic, I'd say it's probably a little mixed. And I'll tell you what I mean by that. Because on the one hand, we do think healthy balance sheet gives us complete optionality in terms of when there's a good deal to acquire a company with a great offering, great customer base, it can be accretive at the right price, we can move quickly and timely to be a high-quality acquirer, and we integrate well. The flipside is, if we don't like the price, we can wait because we think, if anything, that will put pressure on some of these companies that just don't have the same balance sheet or maybe they're relying on more debt and the higher interest rate costs are going to play on them over time. And so the reason it's mixed, though, is buyers are wanting to factor in the potential risk over the next 3 or 4 quarters and be disciplined, which is exactly how we're thinking about it. We still see some sellers that might be very attractive for us. We're seeing they could get the price from 12 months ago. And therefore, that creates a dichotomy, if you will, between a disciplined buyer and the timing of when a seller might really want to pull the trigger. And so we view this as time is on our side, and we want to stay highly disciplined, but ready to move when it comes into our strike zone on the acquisition side.