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CSG Systems International, Inc. (CSGS)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 7, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the CSG Systems International Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Announcement Call. All participants are in listen only, a question and answer session will follow today's presentation and instructions will be provided at that time. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Liz Bauer, please go ahead.

Liz Bauer

Management

Thank you, Vicky, and thanks everyone for joining us. Today's discussion will contain a number of forward-looking statements. These will include, but are not limited to, statements regarding our projected financial results, our ability to meet our clients' needs through our products, services, and performance, and our ability to successfully convert the backlog of customer accounts onto our solutions in a timely manner. While these statements reflect our best current judgment, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. Please note that these forward-looking statements reflect our opinions only as of the date of this call and we undertake no obligation to revise or publicly release any revision to these forward-looking statements in light of new or future events. In addition to factors noted during this call, a more comprehensive discussion of our risk factors can be found in today's press release, as well as our most recently filed 10-K and 10-Q, which are all available on the Investor Relations section of our website. Also, we will discuss certain financial information that is not prepared in accordance with GAAP. We believe that these non-GAAP financial measures, when reviewed in conjunction with our GAAP financial measures provide investors with greater transparency to the information used by our management team in our financial and operational decision making. For more information regarding our use of non-GAAP financial measures, we refer you to today's earnings release and non-GAAP reconciliation tables on our website, which will also be furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K. With me today on the phone are Bret Griess, our Chief Executive Officer; and Randy Wiese, our Chief Financial Officer. With that I'd like to turn the call over to Bret.

Bret Griess

Management

Thank you, Liz. And thank you all for joining us. I know some of you may not be excited by it but I'm really excited to have my voice back after that untimely bout with the cold last quarter. More importantly I'm pleased to report that in 2017 we executed very well on both our financial and business objectives. In the past two years we have made investments and organizational changes that are positioning us even better to create a long-term value for our customers, employees and shareholders. For the full year of 2017 we grew our revenues organically by approximately 4% to a record $790 million exceeding our top line revenue guidance. Our non-GAAP earnings per share of $2.51 were in line with our guidance. We generated cash flows from operations of a $128 million and free cash flow of $99 million and we grew our recurring revenue base by 7% year over year to over 90% of our total revenues, this is important for two reasons. First it creates longer term and more engaged relationships with our clients than a traditional software and services relationship and second it decreases the volatility in our overall revenues and quite frankly our customer relationships. As we transition our software and services customers to multiyear engagements. We had an extremely strong fourth quarter which led to our outperformance in revenues. Randy will review both our fourth quarter and full year financial results in more details later in the call. At the beginning of the year I laid out our four key initiatives aimed at increasing shareholder value. I'd like to provide you with my perspective on how we executed against these initiatives. First, we stated that we would continue to drive revenue growth in line or greater than the market organically. As…

Randy Wiese

Management

Thank you, Bret and welcome to all of you on the call today to discuss our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2017, as well as our outlook for 2018. We're pleased with our solid results for this year, our success and extending our global market share and the progress we're making on our strategic initiatives. Now I would like to walk you through the financial results in more detail. Total revenues for the fourth quarter were $205 million, a record high for CSG. This represents an increase of 5% from the same period last year an increase of 3% from the third quarter. Total revenues for the full year 2017 were a record $790 million an increase of 4% over last year and above our full year expectations. Our strong revenues for this year were driven by our cloud and related solutions revenue which increased 7% over last year. This growth was driven largely by the conversion of new customer accounts onto our cloud solutions and increased revenues from our recurring managed services offerings, countering our anticipated decrease in software and services revenues as we continue to execute on our transition to more long term recurring relationships. Moving on to the results of operations. We finished the year with solid operating results in line with our expectations. Our fourth quarter non-GAAP operating income was $36 million and with $142 million for the full year, both representing a margin performance of approximately 18%. Our non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA was $45 million for the fourth quarter and $176 million for the full year, both representing 22% of our total revenues. Our non-GAAP EPS for the current quarter was $0.62 and we ended 2017 with non-GAAP EPS at $2.51 in line with our full year expectations. Our 2017 non-GAAP…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from Tom Roderick with Stifel.

Tom Roderick

Analyst

So, congratulations for starters here on in the successful complete conversion of Comcast. So multiyear process and you guys put a lot of work into it. I would love to hear if you don’t mind talking about it, some of the learnings you can take away from the successful conversion itself and from that perspective now that you have some extra capacity back is there an opportunity still on the table do you think to look at, some other share shift opportunity notably the Charter Time Warner opportunity to do something sort of similar and do you think you have the expertise following Comcast to pull that of even more efficiently next time. Thanks.

Bret Griess

Management

Thanks Tom for the question, this is Bret, you can rest assure based upon everything you're seeing from us driving growth, we're looking everywhere we can in the market to drive share shift and we believe we're incredibly well position to do so. To my knowledge we're the only company in the space that had a conversions team focused for over 30 years and pulled of that, it's all over industry, you see failed conversions project, we did a multi-year 10 million subscriber conversion on to a live active production system without a single miss deep there. So, there are some learnings there, there is day in and day out learnings for CSC period, we're constantly looking for ways to up our game. We do have some capacity in the conversions, we do see some market opportunities there. If you listen to Comcast call you will hear good things, we believe that we’ve added great value to them, through numerous factors there and so yes, we see that and we’re going to be perusing growth in a very hard fashion as we go healthy growth of course and we think our conversions team is a very key piece of that as we move forward.

Tom Roderick

Analyst

Fantastic thanks, one quick follow up for you, just on Ascendon, you got another year under your belt, I'm curious what sort of feedback you’re getting from your bigger clients out there. Particularly on the proper business model, to use Ascendon, looking at Comcast they have utilized it in a couple of emerging growth offerings and may be in some of the on-demand features that lead to support them on, talk a little bit more about how you see the demand percent on evolving and the business model for that evolving as we look at 2018 and '19.

Bret Griess

Management

We’ve seen growth in that area and we’re extremely committed to it, our customers were seeing some of the traditional CSPs who are more open to moving that direction, it's hard to move an entire infrastructure that way, but as you mentioned we're getting some pieces where we are adding great business value on that front and in addition its opening up some of those tangential markets like IoT, like smart cities as we go down that path. So, five years ago everybody was reading about cloud, now what’s happening is everyone on the planet are close to it as, heard of cloud? And they're starting to realize the phenomenal benefits of it and we're a leader by having the only digital BFS and BFS platform that is in the public cloud which brings great efficiencies around time to market and cost of delivery as we go there, so we continue to keep hitching our horses to that wagon because we see that's the future and we intend to be relevant for our customers moving forward.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll go next to Chris Moore with CJS Securities.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Kind of a difficult one but is there any way to measure or even approximate the return on investment or the effectiveness of your R&D spend, I mean what type of things do you look at to kind of gauge how that is going?

Bret Griess

Management

Chris, it's a good question, it's one that we wrestle with day in and day out because we know at the end of the day we are fiduciaries and we have to do the right thing by our shareholders and everyone involved with it. The key measure that we have on that is revenue growth and then we look to continually drive that, as long as we can drive the growth, if the machine is growing we're going to feed it and then we look to how do we manage that so that we're not overspending underspending along those lines. And we've been investing in that Ascendon alone platform for some time now and you see the revenue growth start to happen and we see that we're at, right at market trends for R&D as a percentage of revenue and those types of things that we monitor that very closely and we'll continue to as we look to drive the top line revenue.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got it, and just as a follow there, R&D in '16 was a little under 99 I think 113 something like that this year. You expect that as a percentage of revenue in '18 to kind of match what '17 was?

Bret Griess

Management

Chris this is Randy, I think we kind of get to our elevated investment level here throughout the year so I think we're at a pretty good spot right now and I think the fourth quarter and or the full year run rate for '17 is a good indication of what you should expect in '18 as well.

Operator

Operator

And we'll go next to Tom Roderick with Stifel.

Tom Roderick

Analyst

I wanted to sneak one last one in just sort of thinking philosophically about the trade-off here with a lot of earnings power given the tax reform, the lower tax rate itself, can you just sort of help us understand philosophically, so guiding 17.5% margins a little lower than where they were at the end of this year, are you looking at that as you've got the EPS upside because of tax reform, you want to invest some of that back hence the lower operating margins or should I think about other costs in the business that have sort of nothing to do with investing the upside of that earnings power back into business just philosophical where you coming at from that one.

Bret Griess

Management

Yeah, from a philosophical perspective Tom I can tell you we spend a great deal of time working to ensure that we were thoughtful about what we did with that as far as that tax reform what the intent of it was, where we're positioned as a business, you know we brought down the margins a year ago to invest more in the R&D and in the business and we're seeing great traction from that. And it’s also we feel it was very important to make sure a good portion of it went back to EPS long term. We're in a very healthy, very sound position, we got access to capital, we continue to look at M&A activity along those lines but we also understand the intent of it and wanted to make sure that we're investing in that incredible resource and domain knowledge that we have for our folks which is where it's not just going to compensation, it’s going to learning activities, to upskill what we're doing in the markets that we serve so that we can continue. You know the things that are going on with Ken Kennedy leading our product organization, Brian Shepherd in the overall go to market effort, Liz with our brand. You can go right around the table of our leadership team and investing in them and their people to make this stronger and healthier so we can continue to fight the fight to solve the problems for our customers and drive the growth and improve what we deliver to our shareholders as the philosophical incentive.

Tom Roderick

Analyst

Excellent, let me ask you one on the international, then I'll jump off, but thinking about some of the emerging markets, particularly the managed services opportunities in emerging markets, tier two, tier three markets, competitively any dynamics changing shape the dynamics taking place in those environments and in for a long time, yet the Chinese competition that was very-very price sensitive and it seems like perhaps some of the network equipment providers may be dying down on some of that activity. But what are seeing out of the labs in their desire to sort of stay in the billing game on international and managed services in particular.

Bret Griess

Management

We see them in the market place and I would never diminish our competition because we're very excited about the endeavors that we do have but we think that the things that are going on in our industry and in markets altogether is causing volatility and is causing change when you see things like 5G coming and how it’s going to fuel the online activity and digital performance of things, we're seeing the competition consistently, it goes through its ebbs and flows depending upon the market, depending upon the net but we believe we're winning our fair share of that growth and we're going to continue to drive that.

Tom Roderick

Analyst

Outstanding, I'll jump off the line before you guys ask me about the Patriots so thank you.

Bret Griess

Management

Sorry about the loss Tom.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And no one else is queuing for question at this time so I'll turn the call back to our speakers for any additional or closing remarks.

Bret Griess

Management

Well our closing remarks would primarily be first a thank you to everybody that got on the call and took the time to understand what we're doing in our business to drive growth and to continue to serve the ones that we're here to serve, which are our customers, our shareholders and our employees and we appreciate all your time and efforts in listening, have a great day.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude today's conference we thank you for your participation.