Tony R. Thene
Analyst · Deutsche Bank.
Yes, Scott, so maybe I'll elaborate a little bit further. It's kind of the point I was making there to Gautam, if you take a look at aerospace, defense, if you're on the defense side, that is very aggressive. So the polls on the defense side is very aggressive. And I think on the aerospace side, Scott, there are really 2 sub groups inside of that, right? And that's -- and I think that's a real distinction. And again, I'm talking about nickel billet in aerospace. I'm not talking about titanium because I don't play in the titanium aerospace space other than my titanium fasteners. And I think the dynamics between nickel and titanium are significantly different. So I just want to be clear, I'm specifically talking about obviously, nickel the area that we play in. So on nickel aerospace, there's really 2 camps. One, there is, for sure, this camp that has been -- that is very tied to Boeing and the 737. And it wasn't that long ago that they were building 2 or 3 quarters ago, when I say not long ago, building inventory for this ramp and then you had the issues with Boeing, obviously. So they might be holding a little bit more than they would like. Certainly our discussions with them or they're looking for that next level of confidence. I've said this before we have worked with those customers. We have not forced material on them. We don't think that's the way to do it. So we've been very proactive with them and helping them work through that. But seeing what -- talking to them recently, the announcement out of Boeing about the rates that they're hitting and where they see themselves going in the next 2 quarters, let's say, by the fall, I think, is how they phrased it. That's very positive for them. And I think if they see just a little bit more of that, Scott, you'll see that ordering come back from them very quickly, right? And I think probably in 2 quarters, you might even say urgently. Now the other side of that, the other subgroup that is -- has content, certainly on the 737, but that's not the only outlet they have. We've seen them come back more aggressively here over the last couple of months. I mean our bookings are higher sequentially than they were last quarter. So we see that coming back. I mean, bookings were up 17% to 18% sequentially. So to answer your question, that's the number, right? That tells you that, yes, you see that type of improvement. So I think this is all very positive. I know we're in this point now where, of course, people are looking to see more consistency, I think, specifically from Boeing, but I think they're delivering that. And I believe over the next couple of quarters, you'll see that -- those folks in that subgroup come back pretty strongly.