Good day, and welcome to the Crocs' Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Cori Lin. Please go ahead, Cori.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for the Crocs Inc. Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Earlier this morning, we announced our latest quarterly results and a copy of the press release may be found on our website at crocs.com. We would like to remind you that, some of the information provided on this call is forward-looking and accordingly is subject to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Federal Securities Laws. These statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding our supply chain challenges, cost inflation, the acquisition of HEYDUDE and the benefits thereof, Crocs' strategy, plans, objectives, expectations, financial or otherwise and intentions, future financial results and growth potential, anticipated product portfolio, our ability to create and deliver shareholder value and statements regarding potential impacts to our business related to the COVID-19 pandemic. These statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause our actual results, performance or achievements to be materially different from any future results, performances or achievements expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Crocs' is not obligated to update these forward-looking statements to reflect the impact of future events, except as required by applicable law. We caution you that, all forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties described in the Risk Factors section of our annual report on Form 10-K and our subsequent filings with the SEC. Accordingly, actual results could differ materially from those described on this call. Please refer to the Crocs Annual Report on Form 10-K as well as other documents filed with the SEC for more information relating to these risk factors. Certain financial metrics that we refer to as adjusted or non-GAAP are non-GAAP measures. A reconciliation of these amounts to their GAAP counterparts is contained in the press release we issued earlier this morning. Joining us on the call today are Andrew Rees, Chief Executive Officer; and Anne Mehlman, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Following their prepared remarks, we will open the call for your questions. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Andrew.

Thank you, Cori, and good morning, everyone. I'm incredibly pleased with our second court results. We delivered record quarterly revenues of over $1 billion. The growth in ages brands continue to perform extremely strongly as evidenced by 26% direct to consumer revenue growth. We gained appreciable market share and once again delivered industry-leading profitability with 30% operating margins. Andrew will review our financial results in more detail solely, but here are a few highlights from the second quarter. Revenues were $1 billion per 12% on a constant currency basis. Crocs revenues grew 15% constant currency, fuelled by Asia [ph] increasing 39%. And global DTC comparable sales rising 20%. The Crocs brand continues to gain market share in North America with revenues up 13% driven by sandals and new product introductions. HEYDUDE brand revenues were $239 million with exceptional DTC growth of 30% and digital growth of 37% constant currency. Adjusting diluted earnings per share increased 11% to $3.59 per share. Gross leverage ended at 1.8 and net leverage was 1.7 times a quarter end, allowing us to repurchase $50 million of shares in July. Finally, Crocs, Inc. was named to the Time 100 Most Influential Companies for 2023. In summary, we had an excellent quarter, and our teams globally remained focused on driving brand health, market share gains, and profitable growth in the back half of the year. I would now like to provide updates for each of our brands. The Crocs' brand delivered strong revenue growth since 2018, as we built both cloth and brand relevance across the globe. This past quarter, our product of marketing efforts continues to deliver newness and excitement to the color brand brands, while simultaneously reaching new consumers who may not have considered our brand in the past. With respect to product innovation, we're…

Thank you, Andrew, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin with a short recap of our second quarter results. All revenue growth rates will be cited on a constant currency basis unless otherwise stated. For a reconciliation of the non-GAAP amounts mentioned to their equivalent GAAP amounts, please refer to this morning's press release. We had an excellent second quarter with over $1 billion in consolidated revenues, representing 12% year on year growth. We delivered another quarter of industry-leading profitability with adjusted gross margin of 58.1%, adjusted operating margin of 30.3% and adjusted diluted EPS growth of 10.8%. Our portfolio is diversified from a brand channel and geography perspective. On a trailing twelve month basis ending Q2, HEYDUDE brand revenues were 26% of total revenues. Channel mix was well balanced with wholesale revenues representing 54% of trailing 12 month revenues and DTC at 46%. Finally, approximately 31% of total TTM revenues and 40% of Crocs brand TTM revenue were from international markets. During the second quarter, Crocs brand revenues were $833 million, growing 14.9% to prior year and driven by strong DTC growth of 26.8%. The brand sold 33 million pairs of shoes, an increase of 1.8%. The Crocs brand average selling price during Q2 was $25, which was up 12.8% on a constant currency basis, driven by price increases and fewer DTC promotions internationally. Within the Crocs brand quad screwed double digits and continued to generate demand with newer products such as Echo Crush and Dylan. Sandals, an important growth pillar for the future increased 34% in Q2, with growth in all regions to represent 16% of Crocs brand sales. Finally, Jibbitz continues to create excitement and engagement with consumers around the world, growing 13% from last year with strong growth internationally. Now, let's discuss a few cross brain highlights…

Thank you, Anne. As we look forward, we're incredibly confident in the strength of the Crocs and HEYDUDE brands and our ability to drive market share gains and sustainable, profitable growth. Our focus remains squarely on sustaining brand health and creating long term shareholder value. Operator, please open the call for questions.

[Operator instructions] Our first question comes from Jonathan Komp from Baird. Please go ahead.

Hi. Good morning. Thanks, everyone. I want to start just by asking a little more detail about your outlook for HEYDUDE. Could you give a little more color what you're expecting for the third quarter, embedding in your total revenue guidance and just how to think about the channel expectations in third quarter for HEYDUDE. And then maybe a bigger picture question, I know when you bought the brand, you pointed to at least $1 billion of revenue by 2024. You're delivering that this year, but how should we think about the growth drivers as we get beyond 2023?

Great. Thank you, Jonathan. So maybe I'll do the last part of your question first and kind of set the stage for HEYDUDE. Then we can come back to Q3. So as we look at the period since we've owned HEYDUDE, look, we've rapidly expanded distribution, to what I would say is essentially the same or very similar distribution to Crocs. A large part of that expansion was last year, and I'll come back to that. At the same time, we've introduced new innovative silhouettes that we think are doing well. We know we're doing well, and we see we do radically strengthen the team. As we look at Q2 sell-out for the brand up 27% as we look across all channels and consumer satisfaction is incredibly high. MPs for the brand is 71, which is about 50% higher than, frankly, most brands in the casual footwear space. As we look at the back half of the year, we are reducing our expectations for the brand, principally related to wholesale. And there's a few things going on there. Number one, as I talked about in prepared remarks, we've got $220,000,000 of sell in that we did last year. That is pretty hard to come. Second, we are seeing our wholesale partners be pretty cautious in the back half of the year. I think they're being cautious for kind of three reasons. One is they're just cautious about overall traffic trends and the trajectory of the consumer. They've got some overstock in some other brands, principally some of the big athletic brands that they've got to work through and they don't have good history on HEYDUDE in the back half of the year. So we're seeing very cautious bookings. When we combine that with some constraints that we have around our at once business, we transitioning towards the end of the year our warehouse and our ERP system. So we're being realistic about our at ones capabilities. And then lastly, we've seen some gray market on the Amazon platform, which we think is principally coming from the distributors. That we closed last year. We are seeing a slight mitigation of that. But we're also working hard to clean up the Amazon presentation. So I think hopefully that gives you a strong picture of what's happening with HEYDUDE. We're incredibly confident with the brand, incredibly confident of the long term growth trajectory. We're not ready to guide next year's growth. I think that was embedded in your question. But we feel well positioned for the long term growth of the HEYDUDE, brand both here in the US and internationally. and I'll let Anne add some commentary around Q3.

Thanks, Andrew. Hi, John. I think the biggest thing for Q3 is just to remember we're still dealing with, as Andrew mentioned, the non comp business of HEYDUDE, or the pipeline fill. So for Q3 we do expect HEYDUDE to be down. And that's primarily that's really related to the wholesale part of the business, as Andrew just mentioned. And you can see from our presentation, we had about $60 million of pipeline fill last year. And then we expect direct to consumer to be up and then Crocs, obviously, to continue to grow. And that provides the color around the overall Q3 Three guidance for revenue growth.

Okay, that's very helpful. Then if I could just ask separately about Crocs, given some of the sales that looks like you're going to miss in the second half, maybe close to $30 million from the distributor you mentioned, but you're still raising guidance for the year. Could you just highlight maybe where you're seeing upside for Crocs and maybe tie in with that? Any updated thoughts on the gross margin for the year for Crocs, since it looks like it was quite strong in the quarter?

Thank you. Yeah. Thank John. Look, our cross business is very strong, and we're seeing the brand perform strongly in, frankly, many regions. I'd probably call out a couple. DTC is very strong, particularly here within North America, but also in Asia, our US wholesale business is probably a little bit stronger than we thought it was going to be. So we feel really good about that. China, I think we gave you a lot of color around China in our prepared remarks, is performing very well, and broader Asia is also performing well. So I think what we're seeing is continued strength in crops, really driven by the same things that we've kind of talked about out a few times. But it's really product innovation, its marketing innovation. We see it across clogs as well as sandals as well as Jibbitz. So we feel very confident in the overall crops trajectory. And we'll let Anne pick up on your first margin point. Yeah, I would also just add that Amelia DTC is actually incredibly strong as well. So even though the distributor part is impacting that, we saw very strong growth in Amelia DTC of I think around 40%. But overall, from a gross margin perspective, so crops gross margins are also flowing through stronger. Some of that is just stronger channel as DTC outperforms. The second piece is we've taken quite a bit of price in our international markets, which are really supporting margins. And then we've seen promotional levels kind of level out in North America. And then obviously, we've been able to recoup the air freight last year, as well as just lower freight rates. So I would say overall, we expect margins to be higher than the kind of original guide we thought they were going to be like a little bit higher than 58, and now we're thinking they're probably going to be north of that. So overall, our gross margin expectations for the year are higher than the kind of 55.5 we talked about last time, and that supports the operating margin raise. All right, thank you very much.

Thank you. The next question comes from Abbie Zvejnieks with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Hi. Yeah, thanks for taking my question. So just first, can you just comment on any differences, I guess, that you're seeing from your wholesale partner behavior between Crocs and HEYDUDE in the US. Specifically, is there any difference between sellout between the brands, or is this really that non comp dynamic and then just not having that historical data on what happens in the second half for HEYDUDE?

Yeah, I think that is obviously a question that we've definitely been kind of asking ourselves and looking closely at Abby. And I would say a lot of it is really the newness of the brand. We feel Crocs is clearly performing well and I would say crocs at us. Wholesale, it's the newness, it's both clothes, it's both sandals, and it's performing well. I would say the HEYDUDE sellout is also very strong. I think we gave you some visibility to that. In the strategic partners, it's up dramatically, I think close to 8% and sellout in aggregate across all channels, our estimate is up 27%. So consumer takeaway is strong. It's definitely performing at wholesale. We think the principal issue is they have years and years in history on Crocs and how it performs in the back half of the year. The history is very light. And to some of the wholesale partners, nonexistent for the back half of the year. And we're seeing cautious bookings. And as I highlighted in my earlier answer, it's hard for us to react to that without once given our kind of warehouse situation. So that's really our diagnosis.

Got it. That makes sense. And then just on the inventory, management was really strong during the quarter. So you talked about hey due gross margin was flat year over year, but some pressure from those storage costs. As you've cleared through inventory, when do you think you could start to see maybe some benefit to the HEYDUDE, gross margin?

Thanks. Yeah, we're very pleased with overall inventory, obviously down for both brands and really coming in line with our longer term target for turn targets for both brands to be about four times. I think from a gross margin perspective, overall, there's kind of two pieces pressuring HEYDUDE gross margin. One piece, as you mentioned, is the additional kind of storage and subpar logistics situation for that brand, which we expect to obviously cure next year with the opening up of our new Las Vegas distribution center. And the second piece is we are seeing quite a lot of gray market activity on Amazon Pressure, our HEYDUDE ASPs. And that's really related to some of the terminations that we did when we went through and terminated some of the Legacy International distributors and also some of the Legacy US partners. So we expect to work through that and that to improve throughout the year. So I expect next year our gross margins should be back in line kind of with where we originally thought, which is more on the lines of around 50% in the shorter term.

Got it. Thank you. The next question comes from Tom Nickik from Wedbush securities. Please go ahead. Hey, yeah, thanks for taking my question. So I guess when we think about HEYDUDE, obviously, I believe you said down in Q three, and that would imply that there's a pretty significant step up in the fourth quarter based on the slide deck. There's also a pretty significant amount of new door contribution last year. I'm not sure if that's channel sell or sell through. Channel fail that had happened earlier in the year or whatever. But I guess how do we get comfortable with kind of the reacceleration that's embedded in HEYDUDE for the fourth quarter?

Yeah, I think there's a few things. One is in the fourth quarter. We anticipate that the DTC balance of the business is bigger, right. It typically is with the with the holiday period. So we think DTC is the bigger and as you can see, we've gotten nice trajectory on our DTC business. And we also looked at our wholesale business. And yes, there is still a component of sort of pipeline fill that's harder to comp in the fourth quarter, but I think the balance of the business we will see a rebound in. Q4.

All right? And then I just want to follow up on Inventories. So I think inventory was down 13% year over year, if I'm not mistaken. Should we think about inventories being down year over year in the back half as well? Yeah, I don't think we don't typically guide inventory. I would say that we expect by the end of the year to look at to be closer to our four term target?

So I think it depends a lot on obviously from a revenue perspective, and we will both, for both brands tend to bring in inventories ahead of a very high selling season for wholesale in Q1. So some of that depends on our Q1 order book, obviously, but we think that our inventories will be back in line probably around four turns by Q4?

Understood. Thanks, Anne. Thanks, Andrew. Best of luck in the back half. Thanks for the talk.

The next question comes from Jay Sole from UBS. Please. Go ahead.

Great. Thank you so much. In the slide deck you gave us that nice data point that sandals continue to expect it to be 400 million for the Crocs brand. You also mentioned some new styles from HEYDUDE. I think you pointed out in the slide deck the Funk, the Shiraco, what percentage of HEYDUDE revenue is the wall in the Wendy right now? And maybe where was it a year ago and where do you see it going from here?

Thank you. Yeah, we've not been providing that, Jay. But I can qualitatively tell you that a very large portion of the Heydoo business is Wally and Wendy. That's the iconic silhouette. And while we're highlighting new styles, which we think is important to continue to diversify and build out the brand and take the brand into kind of other silhouettes and other wearing occasions, a ton of our effort from a product innovation and newness perspective is going into the Wally and Wendy. I think we were highlighted. A great example is the patriotic pack, right? So last year essentially when we bought the brand, they had a stars and stripes shoe that did really well. Going into Memorial Day and 4 July, we saw great traction with that. So we expanded that to I think we said 20 plus style colors across men's, women's and kids. And that did amazing. So a very large portion of business is Wally and Wendy and our innovation is going into Wally and Wendy plus also the additional silhouettes and I would call know Soroco in particular, which is kind of a running orientated silhouette, casual running. It's performing very well in our DCC business and in our key wholesale accounts.

Okay. Got. And if I can maybe ask one more give us an update on the cash use plans for Q Three and Q Four. Obviously paid down a lot of debt in the quarter, bought back some stock, do you expect those trends to continue at a similar rate or different rate? That would be helpful. Thank you.

Yeah, I think. Thanks, Jay. We're incredibly pleased with our historical debt pay down and what we anticipate to pay down. So we've obviously done a lot of work on derisking the balance sheet and paid down $850 million of debt since we purchased HEYDUDE, we do expect to continue to generate incredible free cash flow. So that free cash flow. Given these dynamics, after we will funding our business, obviously will continue to deploy capital. So we'll prioritize paying down debt to get to a target net leverage longer term ratio of one to one and a half, as we stated. And we will look to Opportunistically also buy back shares. So we will balance both in the back half of the year. And is that included in the EPS guidance? No, the EPS guidance includes debt pay down and excludes any Opportunistic share buybacks.

Got it. Okay. Thank you so much.

Our next question comes from Samuel Poser from Williams Trading. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. All right. At the fanny show, we were told that when showing a lot of new product, that to help balance, you run a map program, but you have map holidays. My question to you is, what are you doing with core product in both Crocs and HEYDUDE. To create more relative scarcity so you don't need the map holidays so you can drive more of a full price business because I think everybody out, they're seeing a good amount of promotion. And then I want to follow up on how you're controlling Amazon and how long that's going to take to get that all cleaned up.

Okay. All right, so I think let me do the first part first, Sam. So what I'd say is. For Crocs on HEYDUDE, we operate Map, as you well know. We try and make sure our key styles are mapped and so they are not promoted on an ongoing basis. And then we give the retailers, I think, five holidays a year throughout the year, which is frankly pretty typical. I would say most brands follow that cadence and give them an opportunity to drive some promotion. Those are all at key promotional periods when the consumer is expecting promotion. And we think that is a very sensible strategy to maintain majority full price sell through. Plus also give our wholesale partners an opportunity to drive a little extra business at key times and compete with other brands. I would highlight particularly for Crocs, where that's been in place for some period of time that is driving a very high overall achieved gross margin rate and a great deal of profitability for the then you want to ask your question associated with Amazon cleanup. Yeah, but I understand but people, if you have a brand that appears as strong as both your brands are and you have a strong Map policy, wouldn't the consumer start waiting for the sale periods over time versus just control it? So I understand promoting stuff you need to clear, but if you have core colors that you're going to yeah, I don't understand it. Yeah, I would say Sam, there's not a lot of evidence for that. Right. We see our core products, core colors. Core products sell week in, week out. Right. So there's really not a lot of evidence that they're waiting for the map periods. And I would say the map…

The next question comes from Jeff Lick from B. Riley. Please go ahead.

Good morning, guys. Congrats on a great second quarter. Andrew Anne, I was wondering, your Q2 presentation that you put out on June 7, the implication is you take the HEYDUDE guidance from mid 20's down to the 14 to 18. The implication is things were probably on track at that point, given how you go about your IR efforts and your communications. I'm just wondering if you could walk us through some color as to what happened from June 7 onto today in terms of how did you get the feedback, any color, on how things deteriorated a little bit and changed?

Yeah, look, I think the biggest thing, Jeff, is what I highlighted to earlier question right. Which was, as we look at know, there's really two big pieces. One is wholesale. The other is, sort know, our efforts to clean up the grain market. The biggest probably is the wholesale. And as we look at our bookings for the fourth quarter, they were more conservative we thought they were going to be. That's really the biggest change. And the reasons that we've been told and the reasons that we understand for that is, number one, the wholesale channel majority of the wholesale channel has been pretty cautious about the back half of the ship. They have some inventory overhang from some other brands that they need to work through so they're open to buy dollars. They're a little bit more constrained than they'd like to be. Now, you could argue that. They should invest in the performing brands and then deal with the overstock brands separately. We certainly have made that argument and we'll continue to make that argument. And they don't have strong history on. So, unlike Crocs, where they have years and years of history and can see exactly how it performs in the back half of the year, they don't have the same history and confidence in HEYDUDE. And they're pushing bit of the responsibility back on us in terms of at once, but we don't have the ability to deal with that to the degree they'd like us to. So we just felt at this point it was prudent to lower expectations for the back half of the year. So that's really what changed. As we look beyond the back half of this year, we see lots of growth opportunities for the brand, both from a territory perspective, from a customer perspective, and also from a silhouette and new product introduction perspective.

Just a quick follow up on the direct to consumer HEYDUDE at 29.7, I'm curious, is that relative to the 40.6 in Q1 on a two year, are those comparable? It seems like that probably decelerated a little bit and then I was wondering, as you guys measure the grade market impact, how much of an impact in terms of percentage points might that have on that DTC revenue percentage?

Yeah. So Jeff, the 40% was just the only that was just March. If you remember, that was Direct to Consumer call for March because we didn't own the business before that. The 29.7% is total growth for Direct to Consumer, which is Ecommerce, and we have a small amount of retail clearance, retail type of clearance stores. So that's the 29.7% growth. So you're comparing kind of three months to one month when we kind of own the business. So I'm not sure it's a totally fair comparison, but we feel pretty good about a 30% direct to consumer growth. I'm not sure if we can actually. Or we're ready to kind of talk about how much the gray market has hurt from a growth perspective. But I would say, actually, on both brands, it's not insignificant. It's actually pressured ASPs and also, obviously, we lose the buy box and being able to sell directly to the consumer. So we've been very aggressive in Attacking that. We talked about. We've launched a market cleanup kind of program and obviously canceled a pretty significant distributor. And we will continue to be very focused on making sure that our product ends up where it should be.

Thank you, Jeff. The next question comes from Jim Duffy from Steffel. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Good morning. First, Andrew. Andrew, I'm hoping you can speak to development of the China marketplace and opportunity for that to build, maybe to start, just can you size the baseline? A lot of moving parts with COVID Give us a sense for the size of that business now, and then maybe speak to the current channel mix. And then with that background, if you could speak to the different avenues for growth, will digital be the Principal channel, or do You Plan to open more stores in China as well?

Yeah, let me talk about the strategy, about what we're going to do in China. I'll have Anne come in at the end and talk to about the size of the base and give you some perspective there. Right, so from a strategy perspective, the way to think about it and we've talked about this historically through the cleanup. So the way to think about it in China today, we have a large digital business. We've definitely invested very heavily in digital. It's probably our most important Channel within China. And then, secondly, we have a small footprint of Company owned stores. Those company owned stores are in the major cities and in The BesTmalls, which Are Sort of quite expensive for your distributors or your distribution partners in country to invest in. They're super important because they showcase all of our latest products. They drive authenticity with the consumer. And then we have outlet stores that we also own directly ourselves, important because they are highly profitable. And also they allow you to keep your inventories clean. And then the third component of the strategy is the franchise chives, or partner owned mono branded stores. So as we look at growth, we think growth will principally come from two things. We think our digital business will continue to grow, and that's diversified across the platform. So that's Tmall, that's JD, but also increasingly Chinese TikTok, where we do a lot of social selling in. So the growth will come from digital and will also come from partner operated stores. And so, as we look at the partner portfolio, they will continue to grow their store footprint, probably quite aggressively. The stores that they're operating for, crops are performing extremely well. They're making a lot of money from those, and they're really commercial animals. If they're making money and they can see an opportunity to open up stores, they will. And obviously, we'll encourage that. So really, the partner operated stores and the digital will drive the business in the future.

Yeah. So I think historically, from a size perspective, we said China was about 5% of the Croc's revenue base. And obviously, our longer term growth for that is we expect it to grow up to be about 10%, which would be a 500 million dollar kind of base. And roughly, if you do the math, it's historically when we said it would have been more like a $60 million business. So we obviously are growing it very quickly. So it's outgrowing. So it is taking share and really on track with that long term trajectory. So we're pretty pleased overall with how China is growing and that it's on track of.

And Anne, is that a margin accretive business?

So we're investing quite heavily in it right now. Right. So we're investing outsized marketing into that business. But long term, obviously, you leverage that and the gross margins in that business are incredibly strong.

Great then last question for me, Anne, is just on the HEYDUDE S A. I'm curious if you've at all adjusted it for for the tempered revenue view.

I'm sorry, can you say that again? What was the last part of your question?

It's the HEYDUDE SG&A. I'm curious if you've adjusted your planned SG&A investment in the HEYDUDE brand for the tempered revenue view?

Oh, understand. No, actually we continue to accelerate investment into HEYDUDE in line with our original plans because again, this is not a consumer takeaway issue. And so we feel very strongly that we need to invest in our brands and luckily we can still generate 27.5% operating margins. The benefit of having a portfolio and also the benefit of having one brand spin off so much profitability. So we will continue to invest in HEYDUDE SG&A throughout the year at the same pace.

Thank you. The next question comes from Laura Champine from LOOP. Please go ahead.

Thanks for taking my question. So I hear that the shift from expecting HEYDUDE to grow in the mid twenty s to more like high teens this year is because of wholesale customer orders coming in conservatively. This that impact your own internal thoughts about the growth rate for HEYDUDE for next year and beyond?

Laura, I think, you know, connected to Anne's answer to Jim's question immediately prior. No, we see. HEYDUDE on essentially the same trajectory as we saw it on when we bought the Company. And since we've owned it, we still have very high expectations for the long term growth of the brand. And we continue to make, I would say, the SG&A investments, the talent investments and the marketing investments that we had anticipated making even before taking down this adjusted this adjustment to our growth rate. And we will continue to do that. We're very confident in the long term potential of the brand. And we're managing this brand for its ultimate potential, not its kind of one quarter or one half year performance.

Understood. And then just a follow up on the sort of Wild Wild West environment on Amazon and the gray goods sold there. Has there been a change in your own policy for wholesale customers, for, HEYDUDE to resell on Amazon? And if so, how much is that impacting that guide for this year?

Yeah, there has been a change and we will make further changes. So what we did last year so that doesn't impact our guide for this year. Just to be clear, what we did last year is we did terminate some customers that were operating, I would say one or two stores, but buying goods principally to sell on Amazon. So we terminated several customers that were doing that. That was done last year. That's not this year. We also very clear in our terms of sale to all of our partners that they're not allowed to sell on Amazon. That doesn't mean that some do, because they do. But that is our policy. We will further, as we go through the back end of this year, constrict our wholesale customers rights to sell on their own coms as well. Right. So this is essentially moving HEYDUDE to the same policy we have for Crocs, which is our large wholesale customers. So think Famous Footwear or Foot Locker, they absolutely have the rights to sell on their own, but the mom-and-pop retailers will not have the rights to sell on any web presence that they have. So we're in the process of the sort of continued reining in of digital cell. Just to emphasize, we're getting into the same place that Crocs is. We're not restricting further than that.

Makes sense. Can you be specific on how much that has impacted the Guide for 2023?

Look, it's probably had some impact. We can't break that out and be specific about that, but it probably is a factor.

The next question comes from Rick Patel from Raymond James.

Please go ahead. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the question. Can you talk about the drivers of the Crocs brand in North America going forward? I'm just curious how we should think about the contribution of pricing versus volume in the back half and also if there's anything to call out in terms of the wholesale business, in light of the trends that you're seeing at HEYDUDE?

Yeah. I mean, the drivers of Crocs. I think your question is kind of a multi period question. So we see new product introductions, we see strong marketing support. We see collaborations continuing to drive very high interest in the Crocs brand and in fact, growing interest in the Crocs brand. We will capture that interest through continuing to diversify Clogs and continue to grow our Clog business. As well as the rapid acceleration of sandal and penetration of sandal categories and also continued innovation within Jibbets. So we really see those core businesses towards the back end of this year and we'll also continue to experiment with, I would say, kind of new and innovative silhouettes that we think the Crocs brand can be particularly relevant. So you'll continue to see us us push the envelope in terms of experimentation. I think that's super important. And so I'm pretty confident, as evidenced by our DTC growth and our strong wholesale performance, that will continue to drive kind of multi year trajectory for the Crocs brand in North America.

Can you also update us on where you are with addressing HEYDUDE's ERP and capacity constraint issues? And I believe you touched on working through that next year. But I'm just curious if it's going to be a first half versus second half event, and when that does happen, what kind of change we can expect from HEYDUDE from a go to market strategy perspective, in terms of potential to add new wholesale partners or accelerate international efforts?

Yeah. We plan to transition to our new ERP and our warehouse, essentially at the end of the year. So that will be the transition period and that will release a couple of important constraints. One is we're incurring a lot of extra costs to move goods around, double handle goods, and have goods stored in subscale places. So reduce that will alleviate some expense and also some flexibility and ability to react to the business. It will also give us the opportunity to have a much larger at once business in the following year. And it will also allow us a little bit more flexibility with some of our major wholesale partners with whom today we're really trying to do a lot of direct shipments, which can be efficient and cost effective, but are also not very flexible. So it'll give us a lot more flexibility, it'll give us lower costs, flexibility, and the opportunity for a larger at once business

Thanks very much, you. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Andrew Reese for any closing remarks.

So, just to close, I think I'd like to just thank everybody for their continued interest in the business. Obviously, we had a phenomenal second quarter, and I think what you're also seeing is the real cash generated power of our portfolio and the ability to pay down debt very rapidly and give us a lot of balance sheet flexibility. So thank you for your interest and we'll talk to you again next quarter.

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