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Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, May 8, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Natalia, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Cronos Group's First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Shayne Laidlaw, Investor Relations. Please go ahead sir.

Shayne Laidlaw

Management

Thank you, Natalia, and thank you for joining us today to review Cronos Group's first quarter 2020 financial and business performance. Today I'm joined by our Chairman, President and CEO, Mike Gorenstein; our CFO, Jerry Barbato; and our EVP of Legal and Regulatory Affairs, Xiuming Shum. Cronos Group issued a news release announcing our financial results this morning, which are filed on our EDGAR and SEDAR profiles. This information as well as the prepared remarks will also be posted on our website under Investor Relations. Before I turn the call over to Mike, I would like to remind you that our discussion during this conference call will include forward-looking statements, that are based on assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements, including as a result of the factors described in the cautionary statement and risk factors included in the company's earnings release and regulatory filings included in the company's most recent annual report on Form 10-K/A and quarterly report on Form 10-Q by which any forward-looking statements made during this call are qualified in their entirety. In addition during this call, certain financial measures may be discussed that are not recognized under U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles referred to by the Securities and Exchange Commission as non-GAAP measures. We believe these non-GAAP measures assist management in planning, forecasting, evaluating business and financial performance, including allocating resources. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to their closest reported GAAP measures are included in our earnings press release furnished to the SEC, which is available in the press room section of our website thecronosgroup.com. These non-GAAP measures may not be comparable to measures used by other issuers. I'd also like to note, that we are conducting our call today from our respective remote locations. As such, there may be brief delays, cross talk or minor technical issues during this call. We thank you in advance for your patience and understanding. We will now make prepared remarks and then we'll move on to a question-and-answer session. With that, I'll pass it over to Cronos Group's CEO, Mike Gorenstein.

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Thank you, Shayne, and good morning everyone. As the COVID-19 pandemic continues to affect global markets and people around the world, we hope that everyone is staying safe and well during this time. We would like to start this call by addressing how COVID-19 is affected us and how we as a company are adapting during this time. Our top priority continues to be the health and safety of our employees and our consumers, as well as ensuring that we secure our supply chain. As we mentioned on our most recent call, we have assembled a global cross-functional internal task force led by me. We have been monitoring the situation daily in order to implement modifications as the situation evolves. The company has implemented business continuity plans to support its employee base, while continuing to develop and produce reliable high-quality products that meet and exceed the needs of consumers. As of today, our manufacturing facilities remain open, as governments in the regions where we operate have designated our business as essential. We are maintaining our work-from-home policies for certain employees until further notice and we have a strict no-travel policy, including between our sites, which are deemed essential. In our manufacturing facilities, we enhanced hygiene and sanitation practices modified schedules and have maintained social-distancing protocols. As circumstances vary by region and country, we are working diligently to continue to act in accordance with all applicable guidance from local, federal and international health and governmental authorities and we are prepared to make additional operational adjustments as necessary. We have donated surplus N95 masks, goggles, face shield head mounts and face shield replacements from our Peace Natural Campus to the Collingwood and Berry Area hospitals. Additionally, the Lord Jones team has distributed skincare products to nurses and doctors working in hospitals in…

Jerry Barbato

Management

Thanks, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Turning to our financial results. The company reported consolidated net revenue in the first quarter of 2020 of $8.4 million, a 181% increase from the prior year period. Revenue growth year-over-year was driven primarily by increased distribution of cannabis products in the Canadian market and the inclusion of financial results of Redwood our U.S. hemp-derived CBD business that was acquired in September of last year. Consolidated gross profit for the first quarter of 2020 was negative $6.5 million, an $8 million decline from the first quarter of 2019. The decrease versus prior year was primarily driven by unfavorable pricing dynamics observed in the Canadian market that led to an $8 million inventory write-down on dry cannabis and cannabis extracts within the Rest of World segment, as well as an increase in the marginal production costs at the Peace Naturals Campus as we continue working towards operating at full capacity after the repurposing of the facility in the fourth quarter of 2019. If we were to exclude the inventory write-down of $8 million, gross profit in the first quarter of 2020 would have been $1.5 million, representing a gross margin of 18%. As we noted in our fourth quarter 2019 earnings, we anticipate inventory write-downs to continue in the short-term due to pricing pressures in the marketplace. Reported operating loss for the first quarter of 2020 was negative $45.1 million, representing a $34.9 million decline from the first quarter of 2019. The loss was due to a combination of factors, including general and administrative expenses as a result of increased headcount, sales and marketing costs related to the development of new and existing brands, R&D expenses mainly due to the costs associated with our Gingko partnership and spending on innovation at the Cronos Device Labs…

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Thank you, Jerry. Crono started 2020 off energized and determined to continue to execute against our strategic initiatives to drive sustainable growth and long-term value. Despite the challenges and uncertainty posed by the COVID-19 pandemic, we remain focused as a business and agile and less required to leave our homes. Our brand portfolio continues to launch innovative products to consumers, as we adapt to an online-first distribution model in both the U.S. and Canada. We continue to reach our stakeholders and consumers through creative digital marketing. We believe the mission of our company to improve lives through cannabinoid innovation, resonates especially well and we feel very fortunate to be able to provide consumers with our products during these times. We remain well positioned and committed to generating sustainable long-term value for shareholders and are confident 2020 will be a successful building year for Cronos. With that, let's now open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Andrew Carter with Stifel.

Andrew Carter

Analyst

Hey, thanks. Good morning. I want to focus in back on the Lord Jones or the U.S. kind of platform. It came in it's down sequentially from the last quarter and essentially flat from kind of kind of what it was in the third quarter. There's a lot of moving parts. Obviously shipments are down to some of the stores that are closing. But what can you off – and there's some new product launches as well, what can you offer in terms of growth from kind of existing customers in your direct-to-consumer channel, or anything just to kind of offer some evidence that that brand is kind of resonating and growing? Thanks.

Jerry Barbato

Management

Thank you, Andrew. Although, it was a bit disappointing to see the decline in the U.S. business, we feel confident in the plans that the business has to correct the trajectory including but not limited to building consumer awareness of new and existing products, such as Mike mentioned in the prepared remarks, our Lord Jones Acid Mantle CBD Moisturizing Cream and an additional brand launch coming down the pipe in the second half of 2020. The U.S. CBD market is a big opportunity for us and we look forward to sharing more of what we have in the pipeline and with our consumers over time. The other thing I want to talk about is the COVID-19 impact. While we have a big D2C business, we do have many retail partners, over 900 and a lot of those are closed right now. And while some of that has shifted to some online platforms, a lot of these are boutiques that don't have an online platform. So there could be some pressure, definitely pressure in Q2 and we'll see what looks forward in Q3 and Q4.

Andrew Carter

Analyst

Thanks. And then just kind of talk about the other kind of key channel for your business. If I'm understanding your outlook for Canada, you're indicating some pressure to sales near term. I mean how are you thinking about the opportunity from Canada and kind of positioning kind of the business this year? Is it – should we think about short-term decline but a very quick recovery once the restriction is lifted, or are you also maybe thinking about some lingering impacts, obviously delayed retail rollout, some closures just how do you think about the channels, development and positioning for it over the next six months to a year? Thanks.

Jerry Barbato

Management

Sure. So I think long term we haven't seen anything that changes our view of how the market will roll out in the next six months to a year and I think things will be choppy. Part of the things we've seen is sudden changes and what distribution will look like. And it's pretty difficult to paint all of Canada with a broad brush just given the different approaches, province have to responding to COVID. So I think that we can see some changes in product mix and pack sizes. And when we just think about the occasions for consumers that they're going to be purchasing, keeping in mind more at home. So I think convenience formats is something that will be less of a priority so maybe more of a shift towards flower. And I think we're actually still going to see some store growth. We've seen some-stores in Ontario continue but I think it's less of expecting declines and maybe just – while we were conservative in forecasting what the growth would be this year. I think it's likely that it would just be the expected growth may not be there. But I think it's – given the asset-light model and the flexibility we have I think we're confident that the strategy is still right and that we'll be able to be ready to hit the ground running as soon as things start opening back up.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler.

Michael Lavery

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you.

Jerry Barbato

Management

Good morning.

Michael Lavery

Analyst

Can you just talk a little bit more about CBG or CPGA? And you mentioned you want to be positioned with differentiated products can you give us any maybe teaser of how that might look and what some of the things are that would differentiate it? And maybe specifically, partly how to educate the consumer on how to understand different from other cannabinoids?

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Sure. Thanks. It's a great question. We think CBG will have similar consumer purchasing habits to CBD. Like CBD I think there's certainly still more research that's needed before making any specific claims. I think what we'll find is that a lot of the reasons consumers might be purchasing CBD. We'll find that maybe we'll get a better experience from a specific need for from CBG. So there I think will be some element of better fulfilling what is today a CBD consumers' needs. But I think there's still also opportunity to expand some of the addressable market. So you could think of just the formats being – from generally anything that's not intoxicating the cannabinoid to be kind of similar whereas THC would be on the other side. So we've seen actually in some small quantities CBG being available and then strong demand in the U.S. I think that we need to have more supply before being able to predict pricing dynamics but we have seen it just given the scarcity being at a higher price point. But we think there's two real ways to bring in to market. One is using CPG as a lead cannabinoid, being a unique category and differentiator. And the other is including CBG and highlighting it as part of product mix with other cannabinoids.

Michael Lavery

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And just a quick follow-up, can you give a sense for what some of the -- you mentioned you foresee inventory write-down still to come. Can you give us any sense of order of magnitude of that risk? Is it similar to what was in this quarter? Is it more or less?

Jerry Barbato

Management

Yeah. We don't give forward-looking guidance. And so a lot of it depends on what happens in the Canadian marketplace with fair value.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Vivien Azer with Cowen.

Vivien Azer

Analyst

Hi. Thank you. Good morning. Just a follow-up on the landscape in Canada, a lot of your competitors have introduced value-priced or discount or deep discount off rates. What impact are you seeing in terms of the overall pricing landscape, given that competitive activity? Thanks.

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Sure. I think, it's certainly something, we're seeing. And we're seeing price elasticity, in certain categories. We do and we have always expected that in the flower category. We'll continue to see price compression. We think that from a platform perspective, a lot of the work that we're doing and have been doing in innovation with fermentation will position us very well to be able to continue to be price competitive. And really be able to lead and generating value from those types of segments. But I think there are two things that are really driving the changes. I think one is, certainly value. You have less cost when you're able to spread out the amount of product into larger pack sizes. But also the fact that, we have consumers that are at home right now. I think you would see a shift to larger pack sizes, relevant of -- or sorry regardless of the shift in drastic shift in prices. So we think it's -- those two things are certainly catching on. And we don't think that for flower, we're going to see any drastic changes to that trend anytime soon. When we look at other markets, the legalized markets in the U.S. what you tend to see is, the price starts out quite high. When there is a high demand and low supply you'll see that price come down over time. And then at a certain point, you'll see the price start coming back up and moving towards equilibrium, as you'll have operators start exiting. One of the reasons that we partnered with Mucci Group for Cronos GrowCo is I think their ability to thrive in other produce markets where there are similar trends. And that's sort of how we're thinking of the flower market-shaping up in Canada.

Vivien Azer

Analyst

That's really helpful. Thank you. And just a follow-up to that, you mentioned the shift larger pack sizes with the stay at home orders in place that certainly makes sense and is consistent with what we're seeing in other CPG categories. But from a demand planning standpoint, Mike, are you assuming that there will be elevated levels of consumption, at the longest stay at home, is in place? How are you thinking about, the evolution of consumer demand given the current backdrop? Thanks.

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Sure. We don't have enough data that would substantiate that. And I think, while we certainly could see that as a possibility. There are factors that are difficult to predict, such as, how much of the consumption and purchasing will come from the legal versus a listed market. And I think also, the product mix is a key thing for us to think about. And when we think of demand planning just given the time to change pack sizes and change offerings. And how long we think that would last for. We do factor in we're kind of looking at where -- since we're in Canada, I'll say where the puck is going not where the puck is. And I don't know that a sustained shift towards large tax flower size is where we see the value going forward long-term. We do understand that there is some element of that. But I think, again going back to convenience and usage, some of the benefits from formats we're very excited around, where convenience does matter quite a bit pre-rolls vape pens edibles, I think that has lots of an emphasis. So our near-term demand planning is that there's just much more likely to be a mix shift than an overall product quality shift.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of John Zamparo with CIBC.

John Zamparo

Analyst

Yes. Good morning. I wanted to follow-up on the other question about CBGA. I think it's an interesting development. So can you talk more broadly about your biosynthesis strategy? And let's say you achieve the milestones that you referenced Mike or even faster than you expect. Are there additional steps you need to monetize and commercialize that research? Do you need regulatory approvals, or can you launch products as soon as you get them? And if this requires more work with Technion or Canacol, now I guess? Just anything you can provide us with help frame that strategy would be helpful.

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Sure. Thanks John. So I think there's a few ways you could think about it. The first if you think about THC or CBD or even CBG we've been able to see some limited data on how the products are used. For products that we have out in the market today or even product that we'll be launching regardless of fermentation. Anything other than flower, we're still able to just substitute fermentation, cannabinoids, they're completely fungible. It's the same exact molecule with extracted from cultivation cannabinoids. So I think out of the gate being able to monetize is not something that we need anything outside of the commercial processing license at the facility in Canada that would just be the same as if we had a third-party – or sorry like a second site for extraction the process we need to go through it's actually, specifically outlined in C-45 that for processing cannabinoids can come from biosynthesis. So we see it as fungible and something that can move into the supply chain instantly. I think there is further research and work that we're doing now is when we think of products where we're using the rare cannabinoids as a lead product. So if we were to launch a THCV vap pen where THCV is primary to cannabinoid and a new-to-world formulation that's research we're still working on now. The skincare research at Technion, certainly, that's work still needed to be done there, while we're excited about it. We still have ways to go. But the other way that, we would leverage rare cannabinoids when I talk about just swapping it into our supply chain, if you were to look at the breakdown of ingredients and any popular cannabis product today – I should say most cannabis products today what you'll see is while THC and CBD will be the two primary cannabinoids as you go down from a lab print out you'll see that CBG, CBC, CBDV, THC all the Gingko targets are actually in there. And when you think of the entourage effect, and what consumers look for, for the differentiated experience, when you say, I want a white widow versus northern lights, it's really those cannabinoids and the turbines that are driving that unique effect and that unique blend that consumers want. And it just gives us the ability in our supply chain to be able to make sure that we provide that unique blend each time and just deliver the same experience. So from that perspective there aren't changes we need to make, but certainly for new to world new to role formulations. There's still research we'll be doing. And I suspect and hope that they'll be research we'll be doing for years and can continue to build our innovation pipeline as we they're able to test and refine and perfect offerings.

John Zamparo

Analyst

All right. That's very helpful. And then my follow-up's on the brand building side. Just want to get a sense of how you think about building brands in the current COVID environment. You've talked in the past about launching additional brands through the Redwood family or Redwood asset, but your distribution partners are pretty restricted right now. So does this defer the brand launch until 2021, or was that kind of the game plan anyway?

Mike Gorenstein

Management

I think, there are certainly things that can cause delays in how we might otherwise launch or maybe an optimal launch. But it is a reality we have to deal with that this can stretch out for a long period. So we certainly have contingency plans. We feel that when we look at the brands in the portfolio and think of just timing. There are certain elements to the brand we would launch where we think we're able to get awareness without having what wouldn't be optimal without having a retail presence. So, I think is digitally native and brand-leveraging DTC and being able to use social media, there are a lot of ways that we still can launch and plan on launching DTC core stone monitoring situation if that's the only available avenue to us.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Rahul Sarugaser with Raymond James.

Rahul Sarugaser

Analyst

Good morning, Mike and Jerry. Thanks so much for taking my question. So congrats on having tech transfer from Gingko to the Winnipeg facility that is of course an important milestone and seems to be an evolving part of your strategy. So we're recognizing that the first cannabinoid at CPGA and so I wanted to sort of pro à little bit further into how many additional cannabinoids do you expect to be tech transferred over to the Winnipeg facility over the next year and as you approach that September 2021 time line?

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Sure. Yeah, I think we without getting into specifics of how many have actually been tech transferred to date, I would just say we do expect that, we would have by next year in December 2021 all of the cannabinoids transferred in the different strains. I think for us the most important part of the milestone is just the general fermentation process. And if you think about the – just how similar our targets are as far as the molecule, it's being able to start working on the scale-up and downstream processing being able to work out what the kinks are and where potential bottlenecks are from fermenting or harvesting or separation and just being able to get the conversion of the strain to the broth to the purified cannabinoid so that process of the important thing is that having a strain in a cannabinoid, but the molecules are so similar that we don't see any difference in what those processes really are going to be. But we still expect timeline-wise that we'll be able to bring things to market September 2021.

Rahul Sarugaser

Analyst

Great. Thanks for the color. And just a quick follow-up question then. Do you expect that those first-generation products will be purely synthetic, or do you think you'll be using a combination formulation of some synthetic as well as some botanically derived isolates?

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Yes. And I think it's tough to answer and it could be a combination. I do think that for a lot of products there are some benefits to still having some of the fats and waxes and terpenes that are there. But ultimately what the product mix will be will be dictated by consumers. And so we think there are benefits to being able to make sure that we balance out and make our offerings consistent. We haven't seen that isolate products are necessarily something that there's a lot of consumer interest in today. So it would be the combination of cannabinoids that are fermented or a combination of fermented and botanical, but I would say more likely from consumer research that in the early stages as we ramp up and think about run on run off times and changing different cannabinoid runs and working out efficiencies that it would start off as more of a blend.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Owen Bennett with Jefferies.

Owen Bennett

Analyst

Good morning guys. Hope you're all well. And my first question is just on the write-downs and where you're expecting more in additional costs. I was just wondering what your thinking is there and why given the arguably increased scrutiny on your reporting now you don't take one large write-down or front like a lot of your peers teams be doing?

Jerry Barbato

Management

Yes. Thank you, Owen and good morning. Well as you can imagine this is a pretty dynamic time for the company as we're retooling our Canadian business for 2.0 products and expand on our third-party biomass purchasing strategy. And I'll point you back to the factors that we laid out in our prepared remarks such as the near-term underutilization of the Peace Naturals Campus and the stabilization of our third-party biomass supply chain. Essentially you've seen this with others in the industry your gross margins can be impacted when facilities are not being utilized for their full capacity. This is just a product of the fact there's not enough revenue to cover the facility's fixed costs we see that improving as the year goes on.

Mike Gorenstein

Management

One thing just to also say. There are some still fixed price contracts that are being worked out and it's just our expectation that we'll continue to see price compression on the supply side. And I would add when comparing to competitors one thing just to be mindful of is I believe that we only have one other competitor that is reports in GAAP right now. So I think that we -- the way that we approach accounting is likely different than the majority of the competitors that are stoners.

Owen Bennett

Analyst

Okay. And then I guess my follow-up to that is you've spoken about the ongoing shift to value the price compression given the likelihood of further write-down, it does seem that there's a little sell-through for your flower right now and it remains one of the most expensive in the market. I was just wondering I mean what is your strategy there? Are you going to keep prices where they are? Are you going to lower them because of the lack of sell-through? I mean, if it's the former, it does appear like you're almost writing off the flower business in the hope of obviously you talk about these value-added products and when they start to come through and revenues materialize from them.

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Yes. No I think just for competitive reasons, we're not going to speak to what our pricing strategy will be going forward. But of course something that we constantly evaluate and want to make sure that we stay competitive in the marketplace and air fulfilling consumer needs.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Matt Bottomley with Canaccord Genuity.

Matt Bottomley

Analyst

Yeah. Good morning everyone. Thanks for taking the question. Just wanted to dig a little deeper in the domestic cannabis sales or penetration this quarter over last. So I know you had some in your -- some details in the prepared remarks, but you had a decent bump as a percentage going up to $6.3 million. But still in absolute dollars I would have anticipated potentially a bigger bump given the 2.0 product introduction. So if you can maybe just give us some color on the quarter-over-quarter growth lining up what happened with the vap pens? And then also how much contribution might have shifted to incremental international sales? It's still unclear to me how much exports in the period might have been in that number?

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Sure. So -- and I think one thing that to look at is how much I think we saw on growth of branded sales and penetration. I think we have certainly seen a little bit of a mix shift given that purchases were -- or did not include 2.0 or included a small amount of 2.0 and now consumers having the option of both. But I think that things are -- things are going well as far as how well the pens are received and it's something that we expect to ramp up throughout the year. As far as international, we actually haven't seen any changes in demand for exports. It's really scheduling logistics. But when we look forward at growth, we are adding a new a new region. And I think when you think of all the different medical markets that have launched, Israel is despite sort of being a new commercialized market. It's something where we've had a lot of infrastructure. And I think the regulators have done a very good job of making sure that it's something that's successful both for medical patients and for businesses. So we do expect growth to come from Israel, I would say, starting initially with the flower that we've exported. But we do have our facility up and running and have been able to get harvest out. So given the shortage there and what we've seen to be a fair amount of demand without having much of a black market compared to what we see in North America. We expect growth to come there. But I would say that it's not purely coming as an export market. A lot of that will come from the domestic cultivation but depending on where demand levels out it could still be a mix of export and domestic cultivation.

Matt Bottomley

Analyst

Got it. Thank you. And then just as a follow-up maybe just any color on pricing whether in dollars or just as a ratio to what you see in the Canadian medical market. I know the pricing you had historically in Germany was very favorable. So just curious how that works in Israel.

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Yes. I think it's not going to be as high as Germany. I think, Germany is pretty unique. I would say that we expect and when you think of it and I don't want to sound like an economic professor, but there's not a unique barrier like there is in Germany because of the way the pharmacy system works and sort of, it almost freed its prices. So we have seen in markets like this that there might be a shortage of high price, but we're really focused on building a relationship with the consumers and the patients and getting early market share. It's a market we plan on really leaning into. So I would say prices are going to be closer to what we're seeing in Canada, at least, the way we think of setting prices. But we do expect the cost of production to be lower in Israel and I think we've highlighted that in previous calls just given the climate. So we expect that there's still a good margin opportunity. But over time we would expect to see similar trends as far as product mix is what we've seen in Canada because it's -- from a regulation perspective similar with the key difference being going through pharmacies rather than direct to patient. So maybe it will shape out somewhere between where the adult use in the medical market in Canada is. But I do think Germany is its own categories just given the more traditional pharma model.

Operator

Operator

Your final question is from the line of Graeme Kreindler with Eight Capital.

Graeme Kreindler

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to follow-up with respect to the U.S. CBD pipeline launches expected for the second half of 2020. Traditionally, Lord Jones has been placed as more of a premium brand. And I was wondering if there are any plans to launch more of a mainstream or value type product given potential for economic headwinds because of COVID-19? Thanks.

Jerry Barbato

Management

Yes. Thanks for the question, Graham. Most definitely. Lord Jones, obviously, plays in that super premium category with a high price. And so as we look about the consumer segment that is definitely a big opportunity for us is launching a much more mainstream brand and that is definitely in our plans.

Graeme Kreindler

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. And then as a follow-up question here. I was just wondering given the recent developments at Altria and the changes in leadership there can you just provide a bit of color in terms of the relationship between the two companies? And any, sort of, discussions that have had during transitions or as the business mix continues to develop there. That would be helpful. Thank you.

Mike Gorenstein

Management

Sure. I think there haven't really been any changes in the discussions. I think the team that's there from our perspective is a team that's has been there since we've had the relationship. So -- and I think Jerry is also probably uniquely connected with people there. But I think that there's been a lot of consistency with tenure of the executives there. And so we haven't really had many changes in discussions. I think a lot of what the last few months we've been focused on is we've been getting a lot of help from a lot of the folks there in counterparts. I'm just thinking through COVID thinking through potential impacts, thinking through what best practice can be in manufacturing and making sure we have the right procedures in place to focus on employee safety and now dealing. So I think it's been a very collaborative relationship and I think we've been very fortunate to be able to lean on their expertise and how to deal with pretty uncertain times, but high level there haven't been any discussions and changes.

Jerry Barbato

Management

Yes. I would add it's been quite a seamless transition for us. And I think the collaboration between the group continues and it's probably even increasing.

Graeme Kreindler

Analyst

Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions. This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.