Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Q3 2025 Comstock Resources Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your first speaker today, Jay Allison, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead.

All right. Again, I want to thank you for the introduction and thank those that are on the call. It's been a really good morning. Welcome to the Comstock Resources Third Quarter 2025 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. You can view a slide presentation during or after this call by going to our website at www.comstockresources.com and downloading the quarterly results presentation. There, you'll find a presentation entitled Third Quarter 2025 Results. I'm Jay Allison, Chief Executive Officer of Comstock. And with me is Roland Burns, our President and CFO; Dan Harrison, our COO; and Ron Mills, our VP of Finance and Investor Relations. Please refer to Slide 2 in our presentations and note that our discussions today will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of securities laws. While we believe the expectations of such statements to be reasonable, there can be no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. If you'll flip over to Slide 3. As we start today, we are really excited to update our stakeholders on the company's progress so far this year. Comstock and our bold moves to create the Western extension of the Haynesville Shale have been the subject of several new stories recently as the interest in natural gas has never been greater. I don't believe we have ever seen a brighter future for natural gas. Natural gas has become the go-to energy source in the United States, driven by the growth in LNG exports and the push to generate power for AI and data center development. I noticed yesterday that LNG exports reached a record high of 18.7 Bcf and the journal is full of articles on the impact of AI and data centers on future power demand. The Haynesville Shale is on the front line to deliver the…

All right. Thanks, Jay. Slide 5, we cover our third quarter financial results. Production in the third quarter averaged 1.22 Bcfe a day, and our oil and gas sales in the quarter increased 10% from the third quarter of last year to $335 million. EBITDAX in the quarter was $249 million, and we generated $190 million of cash flow during the quarter. We reported adjusted net income of $28 million for the third quarter or $0.09 per diluted share compared to a loss in the same period in 2024. Slide 6 is the year-to-date results. Our production for the first 9 months have averaged 1.24 Bcfe per day. And with improved natural gas prices, our oil and gas sales in the first 9 months have increased 18% to $1.1 billion. EBITDAX for the first 9 months of 2025 was $802 million, and we generated $639 million of cash flow. We reported net income of $122 million for the first 9 months of 2025 or $0.41 per diluted share as compared to a net loss for the same period last year. On Slide 7, we break down our natural gas price realizations. The quarterly NYMEX settlement gas price averaged $3.07 in the third quarter, and the average Henry Hub spot price averaged $3.03, which is slightly below the settlement price. 28% of our gas was sold in the spot market and the balance was sold in the index market. So the appropriate reference price for our gas was $3.06. Our realized gas price during the third quarter averaged $2.75, reflecting a $0.32 basis differential compared to the NYMEX settlement price and a $0.31 differential compared to the reference price. In the third quarter, we were 57% hedged, which increased our realized gas price to $2.99. We broke even from our third-party…

Okay. Thanks, Roland. If you look on Slide 11, this is an overview of our latest acreage footprint in the Haynesville/Bossier Shale in East Texas and North Louisiana. We now have 1,055,386 gross and 797,440 net acres that are prospective for the commercial development of the Haynesville and Bossier shales. Over on the left, this is our Western Haynesville acreage footprint, which we've now grown over 530,000 net acres. On the right is our 266,711 net acres in our legacy Haynesville area. We have 27 gross or 26.9 net wells currently producing on our Western Haynesville acreage, which is virtually undeveloped compared to our legacy Haynesville area. Given the higher pay thickness and the higher pressures we encounter in the Western Haynesville, we expect the Western Haynesville will yield significantly more resource potential per section than our legacy Haynesville. On Slide 12, this outlines our new development plan utilizing the horseshoe lateral concept. The horseshoe well design concept combines the 2 separate and adjacent shorter laterals into a longer single lateral, which results in a much more efficient use of capital. We realize approximately 35% savings in our drilling costs when we drill a 10,000 lateral horseshoe well compared to a 5,000-foot sectional lateral well. Our drilling inventory in our legacy Haynesville area now includes 118 horseshoe locations. During the third quarter, we completed our second horseshoe well to date, the Roberts 2623 #1 had 11,453-foot lateral and a 26 million cubic feet per day IP rate. To date this year, we have 1 drilled additional horseshoe well, and we have another 4 horseshoe wells that are currently in progress. We plan to drill a total of 8 horseshoe wells this year, and we plan to drill 10 horseshoe wells in 2026. Slide 13 is our updated drilling inventory in…

All right. Great job, Dan and Roland. Please refer to Slide 22, where we summarize our outlook for 2025. In 2025, we remain primarily focused on building our great asset in Western Haynesville that will position us to benefit from the longer-term growth in natural gas demand. We currently have 4 operated rigs drilling in the Western Haynesville to continue to delineate the play. We expect to drill 19 wells and turn 13 wells to sales in the Western Haynesville this year. We'll continue to build out our Western Haynesville midstream assets to keep up with the growing production from the area. Our new Marquez gas treating plant started operations in July, which more than doubled our gas treating capacity. In the legacy Haynesville, we are currently running 4 rigs to build production back up in 2026. We expect to drill 33 or 25.6 net wells and turn 35 or 28.2 net wells to sales in the legacy Haynesville this year. We continue to have the industry's lowest producing cost structure and expect drilling efficiencies to continue to work toward driving down drilling and completion costs in 2025 in both the Western and legacy Haynesville areas. As Roland stated earlier, we have strong financial liquidity totaling more than $900 million, which will be enhanced with proceeds from the Shelby Trough divestiture, which is expected to close in December 2025. If you have any specific questions on guidance for the rest of the year, please feel free to reach out to Ron Mills. Ron?

Antoine, we can turn it over to Q&A.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Derrick Whitfield from Texas Capital.

I wanted to start with a broader question around 2026 and not to pin you guys down on any numbers, but really just want to think about it from the standpoint of the higher level of activity you're carrying into 2026 and the operational efficiencies you've gained in both the Western Haynesville and legacy Haynesville. Could you speak to the broader capital efficiency gains you'd expect as you enter the year?

Yes. I'd say we've -- if you kind of -- the kind of 2 different animals, the legacy Haynesville versus the Western Haynesville I mean the efficiency gains in the legacy area, we pretty much -- we're kind of up at the top of the curve there. I think we've picked up a lot, obviously, since we've added the horseshoe wells. As far as just being able to convert a lot of our shorter wells to longer wells, I think we've seen more efficiency there. The horseshoe wells are going great for us. Really, the efficiency gains that we're still looking to pick up and have been still up on the learning curve is in the Western Haynesville. We've got a lot of -- we've had a lot of improvements we've made to date. We still got some -- a few other things kind of coming down the pike that we're going to be looking at implementing in the Western Haynesville to help our efficiencies there. But I think the 4 rigs that we got running in Western Haynesville has a good activity level for us. We're able to learn a lot from it. We've got -- we've made a lot of improvements in our downhole performance. And like I said, we just got a few things in the mill that are kind of turning that are going to help us out, we think, in this next year in 2026.

Derrick, you commented that we've had solid Western Haynesville well results. And I'd just like to comment on Dan. The very first Haynesville well we ever drilled back in '08, Dan was involved with it. So for 17 years, he's touched every Bossier or Haynesville well we've drilled, either be in the core or in the Western Haynesville. So he has complete authority to derisk and optimize the cost on the new Western Haynesville play. That's important.

And just from a capital efficiency standpoint, we did -- we are carrying some capital this year for the addition of that eighth rig with no production really showing up until sometime in the first or second quarter of next year. So when you think about your typical capital efficiency, that should drive improved capital efficiency next year.

Great. And for my follow-up, I wanted to shift over to gas marking. More specifically, I'd love your perspective on how you see gas on gas competition unfolding along the Gulf Coast. As you think about your supply advantage of being able to deliver gas into Sabine Pass and the competing demand opportunities between LNG and power gen, you're arguably in a great position to benefit from both in terms of gas realizations.

Yes, that's a good observation, Derrick. Yes. I think that especially owning our own midstream in the Western Haynesville is going to be really a huge asset for us in the future as we're able to kind of -- instead of having to go through other midstream companies and long-haul pipelines, we can create great markets right there that we can directly sell to end users and become a very reliable supplier. And I think that's what a lot of these large users with new demand are looking to establish direct relationships with the producers. And we've heard a lot of that about that in our industry. So I think we're well positioned there, given that we control the infrastructure of the midstream and obviously, a great location where the gas can support all the growth in Texas and then with the Port Arthur LNG, very close to be able to connect to that. So yes, I think that's a big part of the future for natural gas is not only having the natural gas, but being able to get it directly to the end user.

Well, Derrick, I think if you look at location, location, location, I mean, 100 miles from Dallas and the same distance from Houston and really close to LNG corridor, you're perfectly situated for both AI, data centers and LNG. So you couldn't be in a better area. And then the fact that this is not an exploration play, it's really a development play for the geology that was there. So it's been a very, very, very active oil and gas region for 30-plus years. So for us to just deepen these wells with the new technology and a great footprint where we're located and maybe 6,000 of these acres are dedicated, the rest are undedicated. That's why we say we're around a big bright light bulb and then people are calling because of the inventory, which inventory is the holy grail. I mean that's why you see people expanding to look at this play. It is the holy grail. You got to have inventory.

Our next question comes from Charles Meade from Johnson Rice.

Warm welcome. Jay, I want to ask you about the Shelby Trough sale. That looks -- it looks to us like that's really a great outcome for you guys as far as what the seller paid for those undeveloped locations. So I wanted to see how you would characterize it, how happy you were with those proceeds and then ask if there's anything left in your portfolio that would -- that could fit that same appetite for people who are willing to pay for those undeveloped locations.

Well, first of all, Charles, I think it's a total win-win for everybody. I mean we are really a unicorn out there because we have so much inventory. As we just announced, we almost have 2,600 locations net in the Western Haynesville. That's a big gift that we've been working on for 5 years. So if you look at other really good locations that might be for sale, I mean, I think it's a really smart buy by the buyer. I think we needed to pay down the debt on our balance sheet because we had incurred a lot of money as our investment in the Western Haynesville. And we look at that. We trimmed some of the vertical wells, those 900 or so vertical wells, we sold those early on. So we are always looking as we derisk and kind of fortify our acreage position in Western Haynesville. Is there anything else we can do, and that is to adjust the balance sheet because we need to get our leverage lower. So I was pleased with how both of those transactions came about. And again, we always look to see, Charles, as you well know, what can we do as a company position where we think we are to become a stronger company in the light of AI, data center demand and LNG demand. That's the only thing we do. And I think everybody won in the trade. Great locations and that we didn't need to be drilling them because we're drilling the Western Haynesville.

Got it. And then the follow-up, following on that same thread, I want to say thank you for sharing this Western Haynesville location count. And I just want to ask a couple of questions around your assumptions and the dynamics there. Just using the kind of back of the envelope math, it looks like you guys have been pretty conservative in your assumptions on number of zones and spacing across zones. But I wonder if you could share what the -- if you'd be willing to share what the important assumptions are in that, I think, the 2,500, 2,600 number. And also, I think Dan alluded to this in his prepared remarks that perhaps -- perhaps because not a lot of the acreage is unitized yet that's actually preventing you from counting location. And -- and my assumption is that would get worked out over time, but maybe you can fold that into the assumptions on the location count.

I'm sure. I think we tried to be conservative on how we looked at well spacing and benches in the play because you obviously don't want to start out at a high number and bring it down. But we think they're very -- it's a very realistic view of the inventory. The comment that was made about the working interest in our legacy Haynesville inventory, I mean, every single location there is pretty exact. We know the exact -- we know what the unit is in. We know our working interest with precision. In the Western Haynesville, those units are being put together still. So the exact working interest in the units is not 100% known. So far, most of the wells, we've had 100% working interest in. So we just looked at our acreage ownership and just made some rougher assumptions there. So it just doesn't have the level of precision, but I don't think it's a significant -- I think we're within the margin of error as far as looking at how we present the net numbers.

Yes. And Charles, you always discount it back. You say, here's what you could have. Here's kind of a high low number and then you discount it back and say, okay, what is a number that we can throw out right now that we think with some [ bookends ] on, we have a chance of achieving. And like [ Roland ] said, you don't want to be aggressive and then all of a sudden, you have a few less and you're a loser. So we want to throw that out and just say, again, with the [ Asterix ] that we've not unitize some of those locations. So that's a guesstimate.

Our next question comes from Kalei Akamine from Bank of America.

I want to start on the Western Haynesville disclosure. And maybe first off, I think putting your expectations in print really shows your conviction in the asset. For my question, I want to follow up on the unitization comment. You've got some short laterals in that table, 5,000 to 8,500 feet, but this is a large contiguous position. So my question is, what's stopping you from doing the land work to optimize the entire position around 10,000-foot laterals? And if that's possible, how long would that work take?

Yes, that's a great question, too. Look, but I think there are some areas that -- where there's ownership where there's some other operators that we've already kind of identified that we're keeping out of our units. So we've chosen those shorter laterals. Just like the wells we completed this quarter and drilled last quarter, a lot of that was defined by kind of the acreage ownership. And so we've honored that where we don't have it completely contiguous. So I think -- and then there's some -- there's obviously geologic structures that we have identified on seismic that we are avoiding and not wanting to develop and around. And so we've tried -- we've honored a lot of our geologic work too in those assumptions. But it's still early on, you'll be able to probably optimize that over time. And then a lot will depend on how long do you really want to go? Do you want to go to 15,000-foot laterals. And some of that is -- I think there's room to optimize in the future. But I think this was a really good view of how we see the acreage we currently own. Now we could also lease additional acreage that will change the configuration in the future. And I'm sure that will happen. We're always picking up additional acreage as we put the units together. So there will be moving parts, but I do feel like this was a pretty thorough look at if we stop leasing what it could look like now.

Well, Kalei, you know we added 5,000 acres from the last time we reported. So we do cleanup stuff all the time in the Western Haynesville, just like we do in the core. This is a pretty safe conservative number. We think that we have leased 90% of what we think the real value is in the Western Haynesville, maybe that's expanded, and that will be a good thing. We hope it does expand. But based upon the control that we have and the size that we have and the well results we have, I think that we're in pretty good shape there. But we do -- we keep trying to make it better. And at some point in time, we won't own 100% of all the wells. But until that time is right, we'll kind of drill the lateral lengths that we need to keep the information that we need to keep kind of in our back pocket right now.

For my second question, I want to ask about the second train at the Marquez gas plant. That build looks like it's going to take you to about 1.3 Bs from 900 million cubic feet. So that's quite the scale. My question is, was this part of the original scope of the JV deal with Quantum? And then can you talk about the capacity utilization at those plants? What is it today? And once Marquez 2 is online, perhaps in '27, where do you think the utilization rate will be at that time?

I don't know if we want to forecast the utilization rate that's getting way out there. But we are -- when we originally put together the plan for Pinnacle, the Pinnacle Gas Services and how to service the development program. I mean, obviously, we saw -- and we've commented this a long time ago that we saw trying to create a treating infrastructure to handle up to 2 Bs of gross production over the next 5, 6, 7 years. So I think this is the second phase of Marquez is just -- was the next step that was in our original plan. And then there's another either debating on either an expansion at Bethel or a third gas plant will probably be something way off next in the future. But we do have to keep ahead. We obviously have to provide for the treating way ahead of when we're going to actually produce it. It's not going to be a just-in-time kind of delivery, obviously, because it takes a good 12 to 18 months to put those together. So yes, right now on Marquez Phase 2, we've got a lot of long lead time components and equipment that are being manufactured that we have to go out and order. And so that's kind of the big process going on now for something that we can hopefully open up next summer would be our goal for that.

And yes, I think the key answer to that is we have a lot of inventory, but we own our midstream, as Roland mentioned in the beginning comments, and we have an incredible financial partner with Quantum, and we look to see what our drilling inventory looks like. We see what our performance looks like. We see what our acreage addition looks like. And then based upon all that, we control the gathering. And as far as the takeaway and the demand, as we said 45 minutes ago, it has never ever looked brighter out there for what the world needs, not just America, the world needs in the form of natural gas. I think we're right there at the right time.

Addition -- other operators, there are a couple of other operators which are running rigs in the area. And so a lot of that will how we actually build out will also depend on do we end up picking up some of that gas or not. And so that's all -- a lot of that is to kind of remain to be seen in the future. But there's other activity in the area that hopefully that we kind of see coming to Pinnacle over time, too, as we build out that great asset that underlies the Western Haynesville.

Our next question comes from Carlos Escalante from Wolfe Research.

I love the way the operator said my name. I want to go back to one of your comments, Jay. You said, hopefully, the Western Haynesville, the footprint that you guys have at least expands and nice work play, by the way. But look, you've done a great job at establishing the core with just under 30 TILs across the play, especially in that southern corridor across Leon and Robertson with what I think that -- what is incremental data proving up acreage to the north of that as well. However, you've seen recent leasing and M&A activity load into the East and Southeast, particularly in Anderson and Houston. So I wonder, when you see that, do you think the core -- do you think there's likelihood that the core of the basin could actually be much larger and it extends into potentially some of your other wells that you drilled earlier this year? So -- in part leads to the question, if I may, along the same lines, if you look at -- it looks like you have a permitted well near Olajuwon. And maybe you can touch on when you plan to go back to this area as well.

Well, yes, the comments would be because of Jerry Jones and because of his billion plus dollar investment in the company, we could literally think and not only think, Carlos, we could act out of the box. And because of the fact that we've always been leaning toward natural gas, I mean, we're one of the front runners in the core of the legacy Haynesville area. Jerry Jones said, here's a well, we showed it, we could drill it, and that's a Circle M well. That over the last 5 years has proved to be successful. So as we move to the call we have [ today ] over 5 years and looking at the seismic 2D, 3D, looking at the wellbore penetrations, looking at the performance of the 30 -- 40 wells we've either drilled, completed or drilling. What we look at, we say we're very comfortable that this is probably 90% of the real value. Now as you look at Aethon, Aethon says there are monster wells out there. I love that they'd say that. And we've hit a bunch of them. But that's an incredible company. [indiscernible] to come in, they're smart, management is smart. They're money smart. They come in. Expand is -- they're doing what their name says, expanding. Their name says expanding, and they're expanding into the Western Haynesville because why? As I said earlier, the locations are the holy grail. I mean you can do M&A, M&A, M&A, but that doesn't add any new locations on Planet Earth. It gives you more under your umbrella, but we've tried to address the problem and the problem is, can you really add new inventory. And that's where the prior question was asked, what's your inventory count? And I think we're pretty accurate on 2,500, 2,600 net locations. That's an incredible number. 2,600 locations is an incredible number. So we are always looking, Carlos, to see, do you go east, do you go south? Do you go -- everybody is always doing that. And you know what, there's going to be some gems out there. And I hope they are found because all that does is make our acreage more valuable in our opinion.

You asked about a permitted well up by the Olajuwon. We do -- we actually did spud -- we got a 2-well pad that's up there near the Olajuwon and that pad was spud last week.

So it will be Bossier, one Haynesville.

Yes, we got one -- the Olajuwon is producing from the Haynesville. And the new pad that we spud last week would be an additional Haynesville well and a Bossier test -- our first Bossier test up there.

Yes. And we're coring up in that area, too.

That's correct.

So that the cores we've had, and we're coring there also.

That's terrific color, guys. I appreciate that. And real quick, if I can sneak in my follow-up. You mentioned [indiscernible], Jay. And if I may, I think one of your Tilled wells this quarter, the 2 wells, the [indiscernible] are nearby that area. We've seen their type curve to be quite outstanding in terms of production plateau. And obviously, this well is very strong in terms of initial production. So I guess my question is, is there anything that you're looking at in terms of what they're doing or any kind of near-term collaboration that you can guys potentially benefit from in terms of what you do? Or has it been more a separate effort from that standpoint?

Well, we've done some -- or in the process in some acreage swaps with them, so they can drill longer laterals. We can drill some longer laterals in areas that we want to drill and they want to drill. But I don't have any other comments on that, [indiscernible].

I mean... It's always very -- when you have other operators doing things differently, it's always great learning for a basin. So that's one thing that the Western Haynesville hasn't had near as much of as the original Haynesville had. But as we have some new -- other operators, and they were the first one out there. And so it's going to be, I think, very incremental to us learning how to properly produce the wells and drill the wells, the more activity, the more learning is going to be better for all the operators.

If you have 4 or 5 more new operators come in, I think everybody, particularly Comstock, the learning curve has shortened. I think would be a great thing.

Yes. I think what you say is all the operators, obviously, they all kind of do something a little bit different, bigger fracs, smaller fracs, how they draw their wells down, what kind of casing design, bigger hole laterals, slimmer hole laterals. So all of those things, I think when you get more of that in the [ box ] start looking at the results, like we say, that's definitely going to help everybody.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Kevin MacCurdy from Pickering Energy Partners.

I know you haven't put out a 2026 guide yet, but is there any color you can provide on how you plan to prosecute the Western Haynesville next year? I'm looking for any thoughts on holding acreage versus development, the size of the pads you might drill and lateral lengths as well as I think you kind of touched on where you might be drilling, but any more color on that would be helpful, too.

I think the 90% of the plan is going to be holding acreage, as we said, we still have a lot of term acreage that we lease in the play. And so that's a big part of where we want to drill the wells. So it's going to be following where we lease the time frame we leased. And -- and so I think that's how we look at it. I think the activity level of 4 rigs that we have operating is sufficient to kind of accomplish all that and not have to worry about losing any acreage that we don't drill, that we want to drill.

And I think you're going to see in 2026, more of our wells will continue to kind of push more in that normally northeastern direction along the trend of where the acreage is.

Great. Appreciate that detail. And then just a question on Slide 13 and 14 on your inventory. Just to confirm, were the changes in the legacy Haynesville and Bossier Shale, was that just driven by the asset sales? Or was there anything else that changed in those inventory numbers?

Well, one time we had some of the Western Haynesville in there, probably a small amount that was based on just the wells we drilled and the other direct offsets, et cetera, that you obviously have in the inventory. And so that's why we kind of chose to break it out. It really wasn't really represented much in the original chart. So you had that plus you had -- obviously, we had the acreage that we sold or in the process of selling that we also removed those locations. And then there's always continued recalibration as wells are -- we find a way to make the laterals longer typically is kind of you can see that the feet continues to get larger, average foot of the lateral. So that's always a process that we continue to optimize.

Our next question comes from Jacob Roberts from TPH & Co.

I wanted to circle back to a Q2 item. One of the things that was discussed was some experimentation on choke management in the Western Haynesville. And I understand that we probably don't have enough data to make a final call, but I'm just wondering if you could talk about maybe the varying methodologies you've applied to the 3 that came online last quarter and then the handful that are going to be coming online in the year.

Yes. We got the 3 that we turned to sales in the last quarter. We've got 4 new wells that are turning to sales here in the fourth quarter. We have had some -- we have varied it a little bit. I'd say we haven't done anything that's been extremely conservative to date. We're taking some of the information from the cores, and we're still doing a lot of detailed rate transient analysis. And basically, I think it's telling us, obviously, the more conservative drawdown is what we need to be following. And I think for the future, we're still looking to transition more into that, probably more conservative approach from where we started at.

Great. Jay, earlier, you mentioned AI data centers, that type of stuff as well as LNG demand, which have both been hugely topical. But recently, we saw one of your peers sign a sizable industrial contract at a premium to NYMEX over in Louisiana. Curious if you could talk about that market, how you see it evolving and maybe Comstock's willingness to participate in industrial agreements moving forward?

Sure. That's a great market, especially in the -- along the river corridor area and areas along the Gulf Coast where there are new industrial plastic plants, et cetera, that are being built, fertilizer plants. And they're competing, obviously, with the LNG feedstock gas. So those customers have been reaching out and interested in long-term supply deals where you know years ago, they were never interested in that. They would just go get gas in the monthly market, it was easy to get. So I think you do see -- I think over time, we see a lot of our market and other producers in the area wanting to establish having more direct sales to end users, capturing more of the value, the value chain and better margins versus having the midstream companies take off a lot of that margin. And so a lot of us are working on long-term plans like that as we are, too.

Our next question comes from Phillips Johnston from Capital One.

Congrats on the asset sales. My first question is really just a housekeeping question for Roland on the Shelby Trough sale. Would you expect any tax leakage on the gross proceeds?

That's a good question. No, we really have lots of tax attributes to actually that -- and we do expect a fairly sizable gain on that transaction because of -- we acquired that acreage way back at the Covey Park acquisition and it wasn't a big part of the value that got allocated in. So there is a pretty sizable bookend tax gain that we expect. You'll kind of see some of that in the 10-Q when we file it later today. But we think we have a lot of tax attributes that we'll just be able to utilize. And so we don't see any real -- cash tax impact of that.

Okay. Sounds good. Then a question for Dan. It's really a follow-up on Carlos’ and Kevin's questions. It sounds like the 2-well pad near Olajuwon has kicked off, which is good to hear. Can you maybe just give us a guesstimate of how many wells up in that northern step-out area might be considered for next year or what percentage of the total might be up in that area?

Good question. We do have more wells planned for up in the area up there. The number escapes me off the top of my head, but we do really like that area up there. The Olajuwon is performing extremely well, super happy with it. So our next step is on this 2-well pad is to test the Bossier, which is much thicker up there. So we want to get a good read on the Bossier and then we'll kind of go from there as far as how we're going to develop out that bench in that area. But we do have, I'm going to say, 5, 6 wells kind of planned up in that area for next year, kind of around -- just around that general area.

Our next question comes from Noel Parks from Tuohy Brothers Investment Research.

You did touch a bit on it, but with the new treatment capacity you have, the new plant coming online, have you talked much about sort of like the economics of it, sort of the in-house economics versus the third-party opportunity while you're kind of in the ramp-up mode?

Yes. And I think that's been something we've been studying, obviously, because we don't -- a large part of your cost for treating is really all the facilities you build. And then once you build them, if you can utilize them, your actual operating costs can be very, very, very low, just the actual operating costs associated with it, but you have to recover the capital. So that's kind of where a lot of the costs are. So if you -- obviously, if you own it yourself, you can -- once you recover it, you don't have to keep recovering if you allow a third party to provide it, then they're going to continue to charge whatever they can for that area based on demand for their services in the area, and that cost will never go down unless there's just no demand for services in the area. So I think -- so these are long-term investments we're making now, but I think they're really going to really pay off in the future for us. They continue to preserve our already industry-leading low cost structure. So that's why we're really excited about what we're able to accomplish out there and be able to do it without too big of a strain on the company with our partnership there that's funding it.

Great. And this is kind of a housekeeping item, but I did take sort of a quick look at the gathering and transportation expense line, and it looks like it might have been down sequentially a bit in the quarter. And I just wonder if I had that right and if there are any drivers behind that?

Yes, it was down sequentially. It was just over $41 million in the second quarter. It was just under $40 million in the third quarter on -- but part of that is driven by we had lower volumes sequentially as well. So you look at it on a GTC per unit basis, it was $0.36 just versus $0.37 last quarter. So it's really -- that's driven by volumes.

Yes. I would say that's properly correct, right.

Our next question comes from Paul Diamond from Citi.

Just wanted to touch quickly on kind of your activity allocation between Western Haynesville and the legacy acreage. Currently split 50-50. If you guys were [ to add it a drop ] any activity over time, where do you think it would come from one or the other?

Well, I think we'd like to keep the 4 operating rigs in the Western Haynesville because just because of the -- strategically, in order to hold all the acreage, that's a pace that makes that a comfortable program. And so I think obviously, we flex in the legacy area where there's no acreage considerations there and you're kind of basing that on what's the supply-demand outlook, what's the price. So obviously, just like last year, we flexed very heavily in the legacy area. And we hope to continue just to steadily add activity in the Western Haynesville as we build that up. So they're kind of 2 different kind of -- I think we're very reactive on the legacy side to the situation, and then we want to be more steady on the Western Haynesville in order to continue to develop that asset and retain that asset.

Got it. Makes perfect sense. And now you guys have given the inventory assumptions in the Western Haynesville acreage. Can you talk about any progression you see on D&C still tracking towards about $30 million per well on 10,000-foot basis. I guess where do you guys see that going through time? What your target longer term?

I think we're going to definitely see the costs continue to come down. There's a pretty good spread depending on where you're drilling at on the acreage as far as what that D&C cost is. Our low end that we've achieved so far is about $2,100 a foot for the stuff that's a little bit shallower [ TBD ]. And then the $30 million mark or assuming like a 10,000 lateral, $3,000 a foot or a little bit higher than that, if you go all the way to the other end to the far deeper stuff, probably just a little bit over that. So as far as any quarter when we're reporting, it just depends on where those rigs have been and what the [ TBD ] areas we're drilling in as far as what the cost comes out to, but we're definitely going to see the cost continue to go down. I think we've gotten a big chunk of it down already and is naturally going time, I think the rate at which the costs come down probably slow a little bit. But we still see -- I mentioned it earlier, we still got a few things kind of coming down the pike that we're going to be trying. We think that's going to help us continue to shave days off.

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I will now turn it back over to Jay Allison for closing remarks.

Perfect. I want to thank everybody for listening for over an hour. And November 4, 2025 is a great day for the company when we can tell the stakeholders, which is you, and our financial bankers, which is you, that we've added this giant footprint in the Western Haynesville. So the debt that we have, that is the Western Haynesville acreage that we have been buying. It's 530,000 net acres. So -- but we can report on a day like today, we have over $900 million of liquidity, and that's going to grow. We have Kim report that we have 2,559 Western Haynesville locations at the very beginning of time. And then the legacy locations are 917. So we have a lot of inventory. We're not chasing inventory or we're not chasing M&A and that the management here has been pioneered the Haynesville/Bossier shale going back to 2008, 17 years. So the man that's in charge of operations has been here the very first day we ever looked at the Haynesville/Bossier, which is Dan Harrison. And then you look at managing the balance sheet, the couple of divestitures that we will make and have made that just tells you that we're watching our balance sheet, which the major stockholder and everybody else wants us to do that. So I just want to thank you for believing in the company, and we'll give you a good day's work every day. So thank you for the call.

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