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Carter's, Inc. (CRI)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 29, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, please standby. We are about to begin. Good day everyone and welcome to Carter's Second Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are Michael Casey, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Richard Westenberger, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Brian Lynch, President; and Sean McHugh, Vice President and Treasurer. After today's prepared remarks, we will take questions as time allows. Carter's issued its second quarter 2015 earnings press release earlier this morning. A copy of the release and presentation materials for today's call, have been posted on the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.carters.com. Before we begin, let me remind you that statements made on this conference call and in the company's presentation materials about the company's outlook, plans and future performance are forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those projected. For a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to vary from those contained in the forward-looking statements, please refer to the company's most recent Annual Report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and the presentation materials posted on the company's website. Also on this call, the company will reference various non-GAAP financial measurements. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measurements to the GAAP financial measurements is provided in the company's earnings release and presentation materials. Also today's call is being recorded. And now, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Casey.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Thanks very much. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us on the call. Before we walk you through the presentation on our website, I would like to share some thoughts on our business with you. We made good progress with our growth initiatives in the second quarter. We exceeded the sales in earnings goals we shared with you on our last call and achieved sales growth in all of our business segments. In the second quarter, we opened 34 beautiful new stores. We began to pilot our rewarding moments loyalty program, we saw the highest growth in online sales to U.S. consumers in nine quarters and we launched our e-commerce business in China. Despite the highly, promotional retail environment in the second quarter, we improved price realization and our gross profit margin. We leveraged SG&A, expanded our operating margin, and returned excess capital to our shareholders. Given our strong first half performance and outlook for the second half, we've raised our earnings forecast for the year. In terms of business trends we saw sales growth in April, May and June. We have a strongest sales growth in June as we began to deliver our new fall product offerings. And we are expecting very good growth in sales and earnings in the third quarter. Traffic to our stores and online has been more sluggish than expected in July. We believe we've been less promotional than our competitors given our favorable inventory position. We're expecting better performance as we move beyond this clearance sales period and then to the back-to-school shopping season. As you know traffic has been a challenge for the retail apparel industry. Increasingly, consumers preferred convenience to shopping online and we've benefited from this secular shift in shopping behavior with our successful e-commerce business. In the first half, Carter's…

Richard Westenberger

Management

Thanks, Mike, good morning everyone. I remind you that our presentation materials which are posted on our website include important reconciliations of our GAAP financial results to the as adjusted basis, which we will use in discussing our performance this morning. We encourage you to review this information as part of your analysis of the Company's results. I'll begin on Page 2 with some highlights of our performance in the second quarter. As Mike mentioned, we delivered a very successful quarter with good growth in both top line revenue and earnings. Consolidated net sales increased 7%, with each of our business segments posting growth over last year. Consolidated adjusted operating income grew 11% to $65 million and our adjusted operating margin improved by 50 basis points to 10.7%. Adjusted earnings per share grew strongly at 19% to $0.73 per share. We outperformed our previous forecast, which had called for adjusted earnings per share to be roughly comparable to a year ago. At a high level, this better performance was driven by lower than forecasted spending, higher wholesale sales in the U.S. and overseas and gains on the revaluation of foreign currency contracts, which we put in place to help manage our FX exposure in Canada. We believe a good portion of our upside in the quarter approximately $0.08 represents favorable timings, which we expect will reverse in the second half of the year. Moving to Page 3, with some details on our sales performance in the second quarter. Our consolidated sales growth was driven by higher unit sales with average pricing improving modestly. We saw good demand in the U.S. for our Carter's and OshKosh branded products. Total Carter's sales in the U.S. grew about 6% with growth in our retail stores, e-commerce and wholesale businesses. Our retail segment which…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] And for our first question we go to Stephanie Wissink with Piper Jaffray.

Maria Vizuete

Analyst

Hi, good morning. It's actually Maria Vizuete in for Stephanie. Thanks so much for taking my questions. First off, we're just wondering if you can talk a little bit more about what you're seeing in the competitive environment. You mentioned some toughness in July and we're just wondering was that although a result of timing shift may be in the fall product sales. Thank you.

Michael Casey

Chairman

I would say just generally speaking traffic in the second quarter was inconsistent. You've read the same reports on the retail market as I have. April was tough, largely because Easter shopping moved into March. May was better. But I think what I saw is consumer spending rose some portion of about 1%, June was tougher than May and July, July you haven't seen much written about July yet. But based on our visibility, I would say July has been tougher than June. That said we had good growth. We have sales growth in April, May and June. We're expecting a good third quarter. July is largely a clearance month. It's a smallest component of our third quarter probably contributes - probably less than 25% of our total sales to less than 15% of our earnings in the third quarter. So our outlook for our business is good. We've got strong product offerings, strong marketing does looking stores and young children's apparel. So we feel good about our growth plan, this year. But I would say demand for most of this year has been inconsistent.

Maria Vizuete

Analyst

I appreciate that insight. And then just even the persistent negative store level comp, we're just wondering does that change your view of domestic growth over time? Thank you.

Richard Westenberger

Management

No, no, it doesn't. Again, we saw negative comps in April but expected it. And the comps for Carter's, I would say, were slightly negative in May and June. We're expecting, based on some strong initiatives in the second half, we're expecting positive short comps in the second half, driven by size 8 that expanded product offering for Carter's, which has been received extremely well. Like consumers we've got the rewarding moments, loyalty program launching in the second half. And so, I think, we've got a much stronger product offering. And we feel good about the second half of the year.

Maria Vizuete

Analyst

Thank you so much. Best of luck.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And for our next question we go to Taposh Bari with Goldman Sachs.

Taposh Bari

Analyst

Hey guys, good morning.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Hi Taposh.

Taposh Bari

Analyst

Mike, I wanted to follow-up on the Walmart target point. Clearly they are investing in baby in a big way and you saw a lot of baby stuff. How do you expect their strategies to affect your business? Are you expecting either shelf-space gains or even better presentation of your brand within their doors? It will be helpful if provide some more comments.

Michael Casey

Chairman

We're expecting - yes I think as you know the two of our largest customers, we have a very strong brand presence on the floor. And buyers, so I think we got the best looking stuff on the floor target Walmart. And our brands have always been known as traffic drivers. They want our brands in there, they know the mom needs to get out of the house frequently because the child is going through multiple wardrobes in those early years of life. So I'm hopeful, their focus on the baby product market drives more young families into their stores and when they go shopping and target Walmart and they will see a strong presence of our brand. So that these have been good growth accounts for us and we're expecting good growth in the second half and for the foreseeable future.

Taposh Bari

Analyst

Great. And then I wanted to follow-up on the product cost commentary, it sounds like you've got Spring locked in, can you just give us sense of whether it's up or down year-over-year like you have over past few seasons and then as far as the third of the fall business you have locked in right now are those rates up or down versus fall of 2015?

Michael Casey

Chairman

Yes, generally speaking we are entering into a much favorable cost environment. We are expecting lower cost in the second half are based on what we know today, we are expecting lower cost in the first half of next year. Given the favorable cost environment we've locked into a third of our product cost through all of 2016. We don't know enough about fall 2016; we are still developing the line now. But I think there is reason to be optimistic about the cost environment for the balance of this year and certainly into the first half of next year.

Taposh Bari

Analyst

Great, if I could just squeeze it one more in, on the Carter's DTC operating income performance, couple of quarters now, I guess, less than stellar performance on that particular line. And I think there are a bunch of exaggerated [ph] factors, but if you can just help us understand how you're thinking about that particular line, operating income for the Carter's DTC business going forward that would be helpful?

Michael Casey

Chairman

That's two sided. You look at the first half results, I believe our operating segment is - operating margin is down about 150 basis points. If we had maintained that 17.9% margin from last year, we would have had another $7 million or so of operating income. To your point, I think, there were a number of somewhat unusual factors in the first half you had effect of the port strikes. In fact, we have seen this drop off of international traffic too. Both our U.S. website and to more towards located retail stores really a feature of what's happened with currency rates and the non-balance traffic trends being a bit softer. Those of all had an impact on our AUR. We are also in the first half of the year, so up against modestly higher product cost year-over-year. So I think if you look at the full year outlook for the segment operating margin, that's probably a better metric, we were encouraged by what our forecast indicated, which would be expansion of the retail segment, meaning both the stores and e-commerce in the second half of the year. So I would look to the second half into the year as with the better indication.

Taposh Bari

Analyst

Thanks a lot. Best of luck.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Thank you.

Richard Westenberger

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question we go to Susan Anderson with FBR Capital Markets.

Susan Anderson

Analyst

Good morning. Congrats on the good quarter.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Good morning Susan, thank you.

Susan Anderson

Analyst

I was wondering if maybe you could touch on somewhat you got a little bit of pricing this quarter, what should we expect for the back half, I don't think you are probably raising prices, but you think you can continue to drive AUR maybe with lower promotions.

Richard Westenberger

Management

Sure, it is just based on latest forecast we are expecting modest price increases for the second half largely driven by mix. I think it’s noteworthy, the second quarter, and these were off price sales, this venue you used to sell excess inventory, I think it was down about 50% in the second quarter. That has the effect of improving price realization. So that's an indication of a higher quality business. So there is no need to raise prices in the second half or it will have lower product cost, so we've taken some of that lower product cost and invested into product benefit, so we feel very good about the strength of the product offering in fall and spring. We've sold in spring and we've gotten a very good response to the improvements made to that product offering. So - but - I would expect that price increases into the second half and probably into the first half of next year will be modest.

Susan Anderson

Analyst

Great, that's helpful. And then just to dig a little bit deeper on the Carter's retail segment, and the traffic, and profit issue, how much, I guess, was the Easter shift impact in the 52, 53 week on this quarter. And I guess, it sounds like you expect it to kind of improve from here going forward?

Michael Casey

Chairman

Yes, Susan, the Easter shift cost about two points in the quarter. That was about two point impact, to our comp bases. And again, we feel good about a lot of things you can take into account, you had the Easter shift, despite that we still have positive direct-to-consumer comps in both brands. And then we had this international traffic thing did also impact us. But the Easter shift, the lowest about two points.

Susan Anderson

Analyst

Got it, that's helpful. And then just one last question on the OshKosh segment, maybe if you could just update us there on your expectations for profitability as we kind of go into the back half?

Richard Westenberger

Management

Well, we've made very good progress this year, strengthening the brand, its performance, as I've shared with you in the past, very strong team, we're seeing consistency in talent, consistency in execution. We're focused on improving the product offering make sure it's relevant to the millennial mom, focusing on an explicit message around value, improving the convenience of shopping for the brand with the side-by-side stores. So last year we passed through it new milestone over $500 million in sales, we are working our way closer to $800 million. We believe by 2019 profit operating margin last year was around 6% that we earned about $30 million. It will be closer to a 7% operating margin this year. I hope by 2019 at least 8% to 10% and if it is, we will more than double the profitability that we have last year from the brand. So couldn't be happier with the performance and the progress we're making with OshKosh.

Susan Anderson

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Good luck next quarter. I think the stores and the product look great so far for back-to-school.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Thanks for that feedback. Thanks very much.

Susan Anderson

Analyst

Sure.

Operator

Operator

And for our next question, we go to Robby Ohmes with Bank of America.

Robert Ohmes

Analyst

Hey guys congrats on a great quarter.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Robby, good morning. Thanks very much.

Robert Ohmes

Analyst

Good morning to you. Mike I had some questions on the Carter's playwear business couple of things. Could you give us a little more detail how big it should be this year? Number one. Number two, is it exclusive to call so, could it be a wholesale business that is another wholesale customers? But third, is Carter's playwear rolled out or being rolled out to your own stores? And then finally could you walk us through sort of the how Carter's playwear affects the OshKosh Playwear business? Well hopefully doesn't impact it. Thanks.

Michael Casey

Chairman

You're welcome. Hey, Robby, just I'll take a shot at your two point question here. We're really proud of our growth in playwear. We've now got the market share leadership position in Target playwear which we worked really hard to get and we've grown significantly in that four to seven and four to eight, eight segment and even eight with the recent edition of size eight in Carter's. I think we've got well-designed product that [indiscernible] would you need design static. And we've been working on strategies on how to help our wholesale accounts for the last couple of years and growing their playwear business, because we built a beautiful playwear business in our direct channels. So we have a very robust playwear offering, it's a significant part of store in e-commerce business, we do have placed in wholesale, have had good place in the past, but we want to intensify that. So we are talking to many of our partners Kohl's being one of them, we've had success with in the baby business with establishing compelling concept shops. And we work with Kohl's after the addition of baby shops in the last 18 months about a playwear strategy and agree to work with us on floor space and putting together promotional strategy to intensify our playwear presence for back-to-school and going forward. So just comprise some of the fixtures on the floor, majority of their doors in an integrated marketing plan, it's only been out there a few weeks, but the results so far are very good and the big news of the starting for back-to-school in the next couple of weeks with the campaign called Count Me In that we're launching across not only direct channels, but also in our wholesale customers, including Kohl's. We think it's a good strategy, we would like to see it in all of our wholesale accounts, we think it’s a significant opportunity overtime. As you may know, we have significant penetration in the baby business and good penetration in playwear, but we've got a big opportunity, I think, to grow the playwear business, assuming we're successful with our effort to Kohl's.

Robert Ohmes

Analyst

Has been impact on OshKosh?

Michael Casey

Chairman

Impact on OshKosh, we kind of see a two different things, we've led in wholesale with the Carter's playwear business, they do have choices on that spend their dollars in terms of private label. And what have you saw, we've led with the Carter's brand in the wholesale business. In terms of our direct channel, I don't think there is any significant impact we've got. Mom shops that four to five or even six stores in brands for her playwear product and we just want to be two of the top ones in that. So we've had a good success with OshKosh and good success with Carter's. I think many times she comes into the Carter's store for her baby product and then - and then looks our playwear and it's a different aesthetic for Carter's and OshKosh. We think that that we think the one plus one is actually three when it comes to how the brands are work together. That helpful to you Robby? We'll go to the next question.

Operator

Operator

And for our next question we go to Kate McShane with Citi Research.

Nancy Hilliker

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking our questions. This is Nancy Hilliker on for Kate McShane.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Good morning, Nancy.

Nancy Hilliker

Analyst

Good morning. I'm hoping, could you give us a little bit more color in terms of the China Tmall launch and - how that impact basically the segment performance here and also if you could just give us some color in terms of your longer term expectations in terms of the size. You know - about now we have that 1% market share in the e-commerce shift, which is kind of generally if you could talk about share opportunities?

Michael Casey

Chairman

Sure, the focus this year was to get - the Carter's brand launched on Tmall. I'm told that 70% to 80% of consumer e-commerce in China is done on Tmall. You can go on carters.tmall.com and you'd see a beautiful presentation of the Carter's brand. Your question how would impact segment profitability near-term not, not meaningfully. We'll probably have start-up costs, some portion of a couple of million dollars and the volume won't be significant that the objective was not to have a big splash this year on Tmall wish to get established, to learn, to see what the consumers' responding to. We currently also have our own Carter's marketing website carters.cn. And that's currently marketing only and next year it will turn into an e-commerce site. So we'll have multiple ways to reach the consumers in China over time. We hope it's a wonderful opportunity for us. And best information we have it could grow to some portion of $60 million to $80 million business over the next five years. And but it's so early. It’s - I will tell you it's a $12 billion market. Children's apparels we're told based on some research that's been done. It is the fastest growing apparel segment in China. And so we are thrilled that it's been launched, our team did an exceptional job getting it launched actually early. So we are in the early days and as that business evolves we'll have more to share with you.

Nancy Hilliker

Analyst

Thanks so much. And then just a quick follow-up. In terms of the birth rate are you already seen the impact of the positive inflection or should we continue reflect benefit?

Richard Westenberger

Management

Sales rep 7% in the second quarter, we have 7% in the third quarter, and we have 5% on a 52-week year versus 53. So I - we never worked that into our assumptions, but it's certainly will - is a nice trend that hopefully will serve us well over time. Many place young moms are shopping for their children, they're likely to see a strong presentation of our brand. But we have done well over the years weather the birth rate was up or down. Our focus is to expand the reach of the brand and wherever consumers are shopping to have the best value, best presentation of young children's apparel.

Nancy Hilliker

Analyst

Thank you so much.

Richard Westenberger

Management

You are welcome.

Operator

Operator

And we go to next to Rick Patel with Stephens Incorporated.

Rick Patel

Analyst

Good morning, everyone and I'll add my congrats as well.

Richard Westenberger

Management

Thank you.

Rick Patel

Analyst

You mentioned that SG&A spending in the back half will be growing at a higher rate than the first half, can you just give us a little bit more granularity on the different buckets of investments and do you see this as something more weighted towards 3Q, or 4Q, or it will be spreading evenly?

Richard Westenberger

Management

Hi Rick, I would say there's a handful of buckets where we've had some changes in the pacing of the plan spending. We are managing to full year spending plans. We have a number of technology projects which are going to fall more in the second half of the year progresses just not been as - just not as far long as we anticipated initially. There is some additional staffing that we need to add across the organization. We're hiring, as I mentioned, new folks in Shanghai and in Hong Kong. There are that additional staff positions and all-in related costs are come with hiring, in some cases relocation. Marketing is an area where we're intending to spend a bit more year-over-year. And importantly, I'd say we're going to look to continue our international business development activities in the second half of the year. At this point, I'd say that spending, our forecast assumption is that it's fairly balanced across Q3 and Q4.

Rick Patel

Analyst

And can you also talk about the competitive environment and promotions in general. I know that the channel that you're in is very competitive and always fears from a promotional perspective. But have you noticed an uptick in the level of promos as of late and as you think about the back half, are you expecting this level of promotional pressure to be the same as it was in the first half or escalate?

Richard Westenberger

Management

I think the environment continues to be really promotional. We were a bit more promotional in the quarter with things like free shipping and with some of the traffic challenges we did deal with more promotional stores for point tag, but total company, our AURs were still up in Q2. I would say, right now, what's going is our inventory is in very good shape. We've got a lot of competitors that, it's the last month of their quarter I can't speak to the inventory position, but we're seeing them getting a little bit more aggressive in July, and they clear through their product and it’s something we haven't have to do because we've launched all we feel good about that and we're not jammed up an inventory. So that said we will always be competitive, it's a competitive environment out there, we've got to make sure that mom understand. So we've got wonderful value with our great look in product. And we would expect it, when you get in the back-to-school season in the holiday and folks would continue to do with, they have to do to promote their products. And trying to drive traffic in a real competitive environment.

Rick Patel

Analyst

And a quick question on the Friday initiative if I may. Anyway to quantify, how much of the store this will represent and how are you making space for this product, are you deemphasizing any lines or sizes to execute this.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Yes, it's kind of too early to comment on exactly the impact, I would say, we're excited about it. Carter's moms have been asking this for these largest sizes for years. We like to marketing program we've got out there in the product - in our stores and online. And some of our major wholesale account it done so well, really that we've actually gone in and raised our buys for spring 2016 to chase it up in terms of the amount of demand we're having. So we feel really good about it. But it's a little early to comment that safe to say we will meet our plan to exceed in terms of size 8 and it will become a stronger component of the business. In terms of space, it hasn't really been a space issue. We have had a four to seven business. We've got fixtures set up for that. So we've been able to merchandise that in the store in the existing straight points that we've already got.

Rick Patel

Analyst

Thanks everyone, good luck this fall.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

For next question we go to Steve Marotta with C L King & Associates.

Steve Marotta

Analyst

Good morning everybody, just two quick questions. The first is regarding new store productivity, have you seen any differential in the productivity of new stores over the course of the last year?

Michael Casey

Chairman

I would say it's improved. We're very pleased with the performance of the new stores, particularly side-by-side stores. So, now we're achieving the pro forma goals that we have for the new stores we have in recent years. So that's why we're on track to open over 60 Carter's stores this year over 40 OshKosh stores. We're still rolling. There is very, very good returns on these new stores.

Steve Marotta

Analyst

Great. And the second question, Richard, you mentioned marketing spend in the back half of this year is expected to tick up a bit from last year. Can you talk about aggregate marketing spend this year versus last year on dollars?

Richard Westenberger

Management

Steve, I don't think it's something that we've disclosed discretely. So, no.

Steve Marotta

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Richard Westenberger

Management

You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

And we go next to Anna Andreeva with Oppenheimer.

Anna Andreeva

Analyst

Great. Thanks so much. Good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions.

Richard Westenberger

Management

With pleasure.

Anna Andreeva

Analyst

Just a follow up I guess to Richard, some of the puts and takes on gross margin coming in a bit softer in retail. And I am not sure if you quantify this, but how much of that was driven by this higher promotional activity that you guys saw during the quarter. I guess what was AUR versus AUC relationship versus your expectations and now that you are promoting it sounds like less into the back half, and AUC becomes a bigger tailwind, what's embedded in your gross margin guidance for 3Q and 4Q?

Richard Westenberger

Management

I would say that's the majority of the degradation and the direct-to-consumer margins were lower AURs, lower than we had planned certainly and that was the future of the factors that we've mentioned. The benefit going into the second half of the year with that gap between our assumed pricing and as Mike said earlier we are assuming, a modest improvement in average pricing across the company in the second half of the year that gap between, not assumption and product cost starts to widen out, because we are planning product cost to be down in the second half of the year. So that should spending fund, consumer traffic in the second half and comps and such that should pretend well for the gross margin line in the second half of the year.

Anna Andreeva

Analyst

So in other words I guess, should we expect gross margin expansion to accelerate from 2Q levels?

Richard Westenberger

Management

Our forecasts indicate more meaningful year-over-year gross margin expansion in the second half of the year, so yes.

Anna Andreeva

Analyst

Okay. Okay, that's helpful. And I guess on the quarter-to-date, challenges in traffic, are you guys seeing that in July at both Carter's and OshKosh? And what should we expect for 3Q comp?

Michael Casey

Chairman

Yes. It's a Carter's and OshKosh will be affected by more sluggish traffic than we had expected. But for the third quarter, fourth quarter we're expecting modest comp store growth.

Anna Andreeva

Analyst

Okay, thanks. That's helpful guys. Good luck.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And with that ladies and gentlemen, we have no further questions on our roster, therefore, Mr. Casey I will turn the conference back over to you for any closing remarks.

Michael Casey

Chairman

Well, thanks for joining us this morning, everybody. We appreciate your questions and your interest in our business. We will update you again on our progress in October. Good bye.