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Q4 2011 Earnings Call· Mon, Feb 13, 2012

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CRD.B Q4 2011 Earnings Call Transcript

Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, my name is Benita and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Crawford & Company fourth quarter and year end 2011 earnings release conference call. In conjunction with this call a supplementary financial presentation is available on our website at www.CrawfordandCompany.com under the investor relations section. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks there will be a question and answer period. Instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this conference is being recorded today, Monday, February 13, 2012. Some of the matters to be discussed in this conference call and in the supplementary financial presentation may include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. These statements may included, but are not limited to, statements regarding the funding status of our defined benefit pension plan or expectations related to future revenues and expenses, our long term liquidity requirements, and our ability to pay dividends in the future. The company’s actual results achieved in future quarters could differ materially from results that may be implied by such forward-looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to publically release revisions to any forward-looking statements made in this conference call to reflect events or circumstances occurring after the date of the call or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events. In addition, you are reminded that operating results for any historical period are not necessarily indicative of results to be expected for any future period. For a complete discussion regarding factors that could affect the company’s financial performance, please refer to the company’s Form 10K for the year ended December 31, 2010 filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission, particularly the information under the headings business, risk factors, legal proceedings, and managements’ discussion and analysis of financial conditions and results of operations as well as subsequent company filings with the SEC. This presentation also includes certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined under SEC rules. As required, a reconciliation is provided for those measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. I would now like to introduce Mr. Jeffrey Bowman, President and Chief Executive Officer of Crawford and Company.

Jeffrey Bowman

President

I’m Jeffrey Bowman, President and CEO of Crawford and Company. Joining me from the global executive management team this afternoon are Bruce Swain, our CFO and Allen Nelson, our General Counsel and Chief Administrative Officer. I will begin with some opening comments on our strong annual results and then an overview of our fourth quarter results. Bruce will then review the quarter and year end financials in more detail which will be followed by a review of our business, comments on our strategic initiatives and conclude with our corporate focus and initial 2012 guidance. If you called in to the call earlier than the start time, I hope you enjoyed the video named 2011 a year end review. You’ll be able to see this on our corporate website from Thursday, the 15th of February. I’m very pleased to report for the year record revenues. Before reimbursements they increased $94.9 million to $1.125 billion. Net income attributable to Crawford and Company shareholders was $45.4 million compared to $28.3 million in the prior year, an increase of 60%. Consolidated GAAP diluted earnings per CRB share reached $0.83 in 2011 compared to $0.53 in 2010. In December we were very pleased to enter into a new $325 million revolving credit facility which replaced a $100 million revolving credit facility and $218.6 million syndicated term loan. The new arrangement which matures in December 2016 provides us with the financial flexibility we need to pursue our long term strategic plans. It also reduces the company’s borrowing costs, extends the maturity of our credit facility, and improves our access to capital. We believe this agreement is a reflection of our solid operational performance and is an important endorsement of the financial security of Crawford and Company. We have also announced today the dividend on the A and B shares of $0.03 and $0.02 respectively. As I have noted before, we are very pleased that this year the company has reinstituted a quarterly dividend which has been made possibly by improving our financial performance. We sincerely believe that a healthy cash yield is an important part of Crawford’s return to shareholders. With $380 billion in estimated global direct economic losses and $105 billion in insured losses, 2011 was a year of unprecedented weather related and catastrophic events. The events of 2011 allowed Crawford to demonstrate its global capabilities leveraging the use of our advancing technology and business solutions. Our client base includes more than 200 of the Fortune 500 companies from the largest multinational insurance carriers to local insurance firms. As a trusted partner and service provider, Crawford and Company is uniquely positioned to meet their increasing expectations for responsiveness, experience, and resources. Our value proposition has never been higher. More than ever, Crawford has an unmatched portfolio of business services. Our continuous investment in technology and effort to meet the demands of our customers offers sustainable performance improvement, speed, automation, and analytics, essential components of the Crawford system. What we call the Crawford system of claims solutions allows us to attract new business, retain current customers, and affirm our position as an industry leader of the world’s largest fully integrated provider of global claims management services. Turning to our reported results for the quarter, as we had discussed through the year, the Gulf Coast Claims Facility GCCF, a special project in our industry leading legal settlement administration segment has been very important to our revenue and earnings performance over all of 2011. We have referred to this assignment as a special project both because of its significant effect on our business and because we recognize that this assignment’s volume would taper and end at some point. In the fourth quarter we saw an expected contraction of activity related to the special project which is visible in our segment results. In addition, against the background of an unprecedented year of catastrophic losses and events, the weather in the fourth quarter was comparatively mild on a global base. Both our Americas, US, and Canada and our UK businesses, saw claims intake decline as milder weather affected results. The Americas segment saw a declining case referrals during the 2011 fourth quarter as relatively mild weather in the U.S. and Canada reduced industry wide claims volumes and our related revenues. This drop in new cases and related revenues offset increased catastrophic revenues from the completion of Hurricane Irene claims in the 2011 fourth quarter. Quarterly revenues declined 12% and net income attributable to Crawford and Company was $4.5 million compared with $14.8 million in the prior year. We saw our case volume for the quarter decline 3.8% reflecting more moderate weather in the quarter versus last year as just discussed. Our EMEA AP segment turned in its best performance of the year during the fourth quarter. This part of our business continued to be positively impacted by revenues from an increase in weather related claims activity in our Australian market throughout 2011. We expect the recent catastrophic flooding and related events in Thailand to benefit this segment in 2012. Also, as mentioned, our legal settlement administration segment saw a decline in work required to support the GCCF special project. This project continued to wind down during the fourth quarter and we expect activity to decline significantly through the first half of 2012. However, we still have a healthy backlog of awarded projects in this segment and are very confident in the long term growth prospects of this business. Overall, our group performance in 2011 was a significant improvement over prior years. Our strategy is to achieve product and geographic diversification on a global scale in our business unit. This portfolio management style has given us greater balance between those business units exposed to the property and casualty frequency issues and those that are not. We continue to pursue opportunities for improved profitability growth in our businesses around the global and we are well positioned to continue to do so in the future. Looking ahead to 2012, our guidance reflects this reduction in legal settlement administration and a more normal weather pattern through the year. We also expect improvement in claim count in the US property area and improvement in Broadspire’s results as its casualty of workers’ compensation market stabilize. I will discuss Broadspire’s progress in a moment. That concludes my initial remarks. Bruce, would you please review the company’s overall performance for the fourth quarter.

W. Swain

Management

Companywide revenues before reimbursements in the 2011 fourth quarter were $265.6 million down 12% from the $301.5 million in the prior year’s fourth quarter. Expected declines in our legal settlement administration segment and weakness in the Americas’ segment accounted for the revenue drop. Our net income attributable to Crawford and Company totaled $4.5 million in the 2011 fourth quarter decreasing 70% from $14.8 million in the 2010 period. Fourth quarter diluted earnings per share for CRDB were $0.08 in the 2011 period compared to earnings per share of $0.28 in the 2010 period. During the 2011 fourth quarter the company recorded $4.6 million in special charges consisting of a $3.4 million write off of deferred financing costs related to the repayment of our then outstanding term loan B and $1.2 million in severance expense relating to our Broadspire segment. We also recorded a tax benefit of $5.5 million related to a change in the valuation allowance for foreign tax credits. The net of these items increased earnings per share by $0.05 in the 2011 fourth quarter. Beginning in the 2011 third quarter, the company paid a higher dividend on its CRDA common stock than on its CRDB shares. This dividend differential can result in different earnings per share for each class of stock due to the two class method of computing EPS as required by current accounting guidance. References to EPS in this call will generally be only for CRDB as that presents a more dilutive measure. Revenues, net income attributable to shareholders of Crawford and Company, and earnings per share in the 2011 fourth quarter were impacted by a number of non-operating items, including the positive effects of a tax adjustment and foreign exchange movements, partially offset by the special charges related to our debt financing and severance expenses. However, the company’s underlying operations reflected an expected decline in our legal settlement administration segment and a weakness in our Americas segment. As compared to the 2010 period, during the 2011 fourth quarter the U.S. dollar was weaker against many of the non North American foreign currencies. This had an overall positive impact on the company’s consolidated revenues and the EMEA AP segment revenues in the 2011 fourth quarter compared to the 2010 period. Revenues from the Americas segment totaled $82 million in the 2011 fourth quarter substantially unchanged from the $82.1 million reported in last year’s fourth quarter. An increase in Hurricane Irene related revenues in the U.S. was offset by an industry wide weak claim volumes in the U.S. and Canada as a result of mild weather. Operating earnings in our Americas segment were nearly breakeven in the 2011 fourth quarter. This is compared to operating earnings of $2.4 million or 3% of revenues in the prior year quarter. The impact of changes in foreign exchange rate on revenues and operating earnings for this segment were insignificant in the 2011 fourth quarter. Revenues generated by our catastrophe adjusters in the U.S. totaled $9.1 million in the 2011 fourth quarter increasing from $5.5 million in the 2010 fourth quarter. The increase in revenues was primarily due to the completion of Hurricane Irene claims we received in the 2011 third and fourth quarters. EMEA AP revenues increased 11% in the 2011 fourth quarter to $86.2 million from $77.9 million in the 2010 period. Our revenue performance reflects weather related claims increases in our Asia Pacific operating region and the positive impact of exchange rate movements. Before reflecting the positive impact of exchange rate fluctuations, EMEA AP revenues increased by 6% to $82.4 million during the 2011 quarter on a constant dollar basis. EMEA AP operating earnings decreased to $8 million during the current quarter down 17% from last year’s fourth quarter operating earnings of $9.6 million. The operating margin in this segment was 9% in the 2011 quarter, decreasing from 12% in the 2010 fourth quarter. Before reflecting the positive impact of exchange rate fluctuations, EMEA AP operating earnings totaled $7.5 million during the 2011 quarter on a constant dollar basis. Revenues from our Broadspire segment, decreased to $58.2 million in the 2011 fourth quarter, down 4% from $60.7 million in the prior year quarter reflecting lower levels of revenues from our existing clients. Broadspire reported an operating loss in the 2011 quarter of $2.3 million or -4% of revenues, improving from the operating loss of $6.9 million or -11% of revenues in the 2010 fourth quarter. We continue to focus on cost efficiency and business development opportunities within this segment. Legal settlement administration revenues comprised of class action and bankruptcy claims administration services as well as significant special project revenues, totaled $39.2 million in the 2011 fourth quarter decreasing 52% from the $80.8 million in the prior year quarter. This revenue decline was anticipated as our work in the Gulf related special project which began in the 2010 third quarter continues to wind down. Operating earnings totaled $8.8 million in the 2011 fourth quarter or 22% of revenues as compared to $27.8 million or 34% of revenues in the prior year period. Legal settlement administration continues to have a strong backlog of projects awarded totaling $64 million at December 31, 2011 as compared to $90 million at December 31, 2010. This reduction in the backlog was anticipated. Our cash and cash equivalent position at December 31, 2011 totaled $77.6 million as compared to $93.5 million at December 31, 2010 reflecting borrowings held at year end 2010 that were used to make a $20 million contribution to frozen U.S. defined benefit pension plan in January 2011. Our investment in unbilled and billed receivables has increased by $3.6 million during 2011 as a result of higher 2011 revenues. Our pension liabilities declined through December 31, 2011 by $31 million primarily as a result of the $20 million contribution to our frozen U.S. defined benefit pension plan during January 2011 and $15 million in discretionary contributions to our UK defined benefit pension plans during 2011. Our total debt has decreased in 2011 by $9.1 million reflecting deleveraging we were able to achieve in the 2011 fourth quarter due to our strong year-end cash performance. Cash provided by operations totaled $36.7 million for 2011 compared to $26.2 million provided by operations in the prior year. This $10.5 million increase was primarily due to reduced net working capital balances in 2011. Free cash flow improved by $14.5 million reflecting a benefit from lower mandatory principle payments on the company’s long term debt. The company’s cash requirements typically peak during the first half of the year and decline over the balance with the year with substantial cash inflows usually occurring in the fourth quarter from some of our major markets. Back to you Jeff.

Jeffrey Bowman

President

Consolidated cases decreased 3.8% versus the fourth quarter a year ago reflecting a moderating weather and event environment in North America. For the year, case volumes increased 6.7% which we were pleased with. The difference between the fourth quarter and the year as a whole demonstrates the industry wide significance of catastrophe losses through 2011. The number of global catastrophic events in the year was 820 per Munich Re and the global insured industry losses totaled $105 billion compared to $75.1 billion for the whole of 2008, $38.8 billion in 2009, and $49.6 billion in 2010. The previous highest annual insured loss value was 2005 at $101 billion and that was the year of Hurricane Katrina. Munich Re reports that Asia and Australia/Oceania represented an estimated $63 billion in insured losses, America $42 billion, and Europe $2 billion in 2011 making up the $105 billion in global insured losses. For the fourth quarter we saw the increasing claims mainly in our Asia Pacific arenas where the following events were reflected. In Australia, Queensland and Victoria flooding that took place in December 2010 to January 2011, the New Zealand earthquakes in February 2011 and June 2011, Japanese earthquake and tsunami and massive flooding in Thailand. Based on the recent information, we also see the number of federal disaster declarations is significantly up. In 2011 there were 99 disasters declared in the year. The highest number prior to that was 2010 at 81 for the year. All of this activity puts pressure on markets to respond with premium rate increases. This is not yet evident but there are reports of some hardening. We saw price firming in specific commercial lines in the second half of 2011. But the property casualty underwriting cycle remains volatile. Underwriting profitability has not deteriorated to the lows of previous cycles and substantial unused underwriting capacity remains in the industry. Although some premium and loss drivers hint at a pending cycle return, it is likely to be in a particular segment and market rather than industry wide. Let me now turn to the outlook for each of our business units starting with the Americas segment which represents 32% of our consolidated revenue in 2011. While premiums still remain relatively soft, the United States saw claims frequency increase sharply during the first nine months of 2011 though a decrease in the fourth quarter due to a lack of weather events nationwide. Some bright spots for U.S. property and casualty that give us confidence in our 2012 outlook. The U.S. property and casualty group has invested in resources for our casualty services business especially in the U.S. transportation area for the trucking business and we are growing in this area through a new client win. Our continually stated goal of growing global technical services, our large complex claims unit in the United States is on track as we continue to be nominated on accounts with high value complex claims and as a result we continue to add executive general adjusters, EGAs, aggressively as our GTS claims volumes increase. Our industry leading contractor connection business in the U.S. still continues to build momentum as we add more contractors to the program and more importantly, several new clients. In 2011 claims were up 3.6% over 2010. The ongoing expansion of contractor connection in the U.S. is a result of insurance carriers moving high frequency low severity property claims directly to repair networks. We expect this trend to continue in the future and we are positioned as the market leader in this important area. A major client using contractor connection has recently expanded its consumer products nationally in 2012 which follows a successful pilot in 2011. Our operations in Canada followed a similar trend with strong nine month performance followed by declining case and revenue volumes in the fourth quarter. We continue to actively manage costs in this area as we grow the business. In the Latin America and Caribbean operations, fourth quarter revenue increased 11.2% over the comparable quarter last year due to the growth of our GTS division in Brazil. Claims volume decreased in the fourth quarter versus the prior year due to the loss of a high volume low severity affinity program in Brazil. Now turning to our EMEA AP operations which represent 30% of our consolidated revenues in 2011 and continues to grow year-on-year. Our focus on sustainable client revenue has been successful in this business segment over the entire year. In the fourth quarter, our revenue grew 10.7%. We saw our claims volume decrease in the UK due to the benign weather and lack of volume in this market. Asia Pacific continues to grow with a 39.6% claims growth in the quarter and an impressive 43% growth in claims for the year. We continue to make good progress with our initiatives to grow our Lloyds market share and have recorded a 30% increase in activity this year as we have significantly elevated our profile in that marketplace. We continue to expand our Broadspire third party administration services in Europe with U.S. multinational clients supporting our global initiative of cross selling our services worldwide. To date, we are providing these services from 14 of our international locations. As we have indicated in earlier quarters, the surge in claims in the UK in early 2011 resulted in small home owners claims that significantly reduced through quarter four. We have been right sizing the UK post surge to improve our financial performance going into 2012. In continental Europe, the Middle East, and Africa or EMEA we continue to see encouraging developments and positive changes. Our revenue increased in the fourth quarter over 2010 by 12.8% on 7% claims performance. Our management team is driving a new performance culture into this region to improve operational and financial performance and we are encouraged for 2012 in a difficult economic environment. Now turning to Asia Pacific, the significant weather events that took place in 2011 for Australia and New Zealand have increased our revenue for the quarter over 2010 by 31.8%. We are handling claims throughout Queensland and the City of Brisbane which were devastated by widely reported flooding. In addition, we currently still have teams working in New Zealand and Japan responding to both international instructions on the catastrophic events affecting those countries in 2011. In late 2011 and early 2012 we expanded our team in Thailand to deal with the significant flooding of 7 industrial estates and expect to see additional revenue in 2012 from these events. Our Broadspire operation which represented 21% of consolidated revenues in 2011 reported a reduced loss for the quarter despite lower revenues. We remain firmly committed to the business and believe strongly that Broadspire’s solid market position, integrated service model, and quality of service offers the market a truly competitive product. Broadspire’s internal ability to fully integrate all of our services: claims management; medical management; and medical bill review gives us a market leading capability to provide innovative solutions and improve the bottom line for our customers. This is critical to Crawford’s strategic development and we take every opportunity to cross sell our service and work on improving results in these operations. Broadspire is an integral part of the Crawford product line and strategy. In the fourth quarter we saw a small increase in workers’ compensation claims at Broadspire due to the increases in the staffing and healthcare segments while the manufacturing and construction areas wait for a return to job growth. In quarter four 2011, casualty claims were down compared to 2010 due to another large global product of recall assignment we received in the fourth quarter of the prior year. We continue to receive a significant number of new RFPs which confirms that the prospects in our pipeline are very encouraging. We are very pleased that our sales run-rate improved again in the fourth quarter following a strong third quarter performance. This is excellent progress and we are expanding our new business opportunities with an enhanced value proposition and increased targeted marketing executed by the cross selling of additional services and the balancing of our cost base over this period. The trend to outsourcing medical management is a positive for Broadspire. Service innovation is a critical success factor for Broadspire and we continue to enhance current services through technology and to develop new ways of managing loss costs to meet complex challenges in today’s marketplace. In quarter four we completed the rollout of RiskTech 1.2 which means that we have migrated 85% of our claims to one technology platform. Broadspire successfully migrated more than 10 million claims in 2011 and this has now given us the ability to retire several legacy systems. As we continue to drive our sales and marketing plans we expect to see sequential improvement in Broadspire’s financial performance in 2012. We are very pleased with the legal settlement administration or LSA segment revenue and operating earnings this year. LSA represented 17% of our 2011 revenue. The quarterly results were strong although volumes reflect the runoff of claims associated with the GCCF project, a trend we currently expect to continue in the first half of 2012. Our intention to assist in the creation and management of the GCCF has been a very important assignment for the corporation and had a very positive effect on our results. Our outlook for this project is that activity will slow over the next few months from their extraordinary levels of the past year. Our LSA backlog remains substantial nonetheless. Additionally, the class action market remains challenging. While securities class action lawsuits edged up in 2011 primarily driven by merger and acquisition activity, the total number remained below average for the third year in a row according to the Stanford Law School Report. A total of 188 federal securities class actions were filed last year, up from 2010 when there were 176 such filings. However, we continue to be retained in new significant class actions. In the fourth quarter we also received a significant number of bankruptcy assignments. That concludes my comments on our portfolio of businesses segments. Let me now turn to our guidance in 2012. We have issued our initial guidance for 2012 as follows: consolidated revenues before reimbursement between $990 million and $1.03 billion; consolidated operating earnings between $63 million and $70 million; consolidated cash provided by operating activities between $30 and $35 million; and net income attributable to Crawford and Company on a GAAP basis between $30.5 and $35 million or $0.52 to $0.62 diluted earnings per CRDB share. Over the past year Crawford and Company has met and resolved a number of key challenges. We have improved our financial performance and restored a dividend to shareholders. Now, it is time for us and our businesses to move to a more pro-active strategy. During the year, our focus on attracting new business and retaining our current customers continued to be linked to the Crawford system of claim solutions. Our clients worldwide continue to challenge us to be more responsive in our claims handling as they demand sustainable performance improvement through better control of indemnity spend, improved business processes, better automation, and increased data analytics. As we look to 2012 we are focused on five areas: first, bringing Broadspire to an acceptable earnings profile; second, significant debt reduction; third, continuing to grow revenues and improve operating earnings; fourth, capitalizing on global opportunities that we see occurring; and fifthly, to continue to enhance our returns to shareholders. Looking forward, Crawford should benefit from a significantly improved financial position. We are very focused on delivering operational improvement in our Broadspire business both domestically and globally and we will continue to grow and improve our Americas, EMEA AP and LSA business segments in 2012. We have a first class worldwide management team that is aggressively executing on our strategies as laid out and is developing and executing a changing culture in which our employees worldwide understand the values that foster improved performance for our clients and shareholders. Our results in 2011 and our 2012 guidance are tangible evidence of the benefit of having a diversity of earnings in a volatile market. Given the strong market strength and reputation of our business segments, and the balance of earnings power for our corporation, we continue to remain very optimistic and confident about our growth opportunities as we execute on our corporate strategies for our shareholders. Thank you for your time and we look forward to your questions. Operator will you please explain the process for asking questions to our audience.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Mark Hughes with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets

The guidance, can you give me a sense of what you were incorporating for pension expense? What was it for the full year in 2011 and what do you expect in 2012?

W. Swain

Management

For 2011 our overall pension expense was about $6.2 million and for ’12 that should be in the $3.3 million range.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets

What is the outlook for cash contributions and maybe just a broader question about what are your cash flow targets, cash flow from operations, cap ex, and pension contribution?

W. Swain

Management

Pension contributions in the U.S. should be about $13 million for 2012 and then looking at the UK for 2012 we’ll probably be in the $6 to $7 million range, so total for the defined benefit plans think about $20 million. We will have forward-looking information relating to that in the 10K when we file that in a few weeks. We’ll put up a 5 year cash contribution table in the K when we file it. So there will be more information around the DB plans that you can get at that point in time. For operating cash flow, we’re looking at $30 to $35 million and that would be inclusive of those pension contributions, so that’s the initial guidance range that we’re setting. That doesn’t include any significant improvement in days sales outstanding, so to the extent that we can get some more traction in managing our receivable balances, that could help us beat that number.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets

How about Cap ex?

W. Swain

Management

Cap ex we’re anticipating about $28 million for the year.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets

The number of RFPs within Broadspire, does that number continue at a high level as we start here early in 2012? I know that’s probably a lot of calendar year starts but what’s the sense of sales opportunities?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

We’ve got a very active RFP pipeline at this moment. I think from our perspective it’s at one of the highest levels we’ve ever had and I think it follows on from the very strong third and fourth quarter wins that the Broadspire organization has had. So we’re very positive about going forward on that basis with our new revenue plan from both current RFPs and future ones. I think it’s a testament to the improvement in the technology and the quality of the processes that we’re putting in place which are getting recognized by the marketplace.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets

Can you give us a sense of how much business you won? If fourth quarter revenue was down a little bit in Broadspire, when might we anticipate that could stabilize?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

Are you talking about the profitability mark or the revenue?

Mark Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets

I was thinking revenue right there.

Jeffrey Bowman

President

I think the revenue, obviously a lot of it is recurring revenue from the contracts and it’s really about client retention and we have very specific initiatives in place at this moment to ensure we have a very aggressive client retention process in place. We’re seeing Broadspire’s profitability being a significant initiative in 2012, now that we have RiskTech 1.2 out there and we see the take up from our clients about the technology and their quality issues that I mentioned earlier.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets

How long will it take for that to show up in the P&L?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

Our expectation is that Broadspire will be at a minimum breakeven at the end of 2012.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets

One final question, the Gulf Coast business, when does that bottom out? And, can you give us some sense of how much it contributed to the top line in the legal settlement in the fourth quarter?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

We’ve never disclosed the individual portions of the LSA segment. It’s something we won’t do on the call. But, we have as we’ve stated prior to, we have fairly limited transparency into the future on the GCCF project and that has been really the same since day one when we started working on it. We really look at 90 day windows at a maximum. As we’ve said we do see, as we’ve seen in the fourth quarter, that start to taper off as expected.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Adam Klauber with William Blair & Company.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

Why is it that the Americas broke even this quarter whereas in past quarters revenues dipped down whether you still made money?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

It’s made up of really two issues. First, is that in the hurricane claims that we had that went up the northeast, we had higher than expected costs to service what was a very difficult hurricane in terms of a geographical spread where it went up a good portion of the east coast of the United States. Although that was profitable for us it wasn’t as profitable as we would normally expect. The other big issue, dealing with the US first, is that the claims volume in the regions really, because of the lack of any weather, really came in much harder than we’ve seen in prior periods. We saw a sort of compensating affect on that in the fourth quarter in the U.S. together with the mildest winter that Canada has ever had in its history. Again, claims volumes in the fourth quarter were very weak from our organizational point of view and that left us with a revenue shortfall that we haven’t seen in a while. Now, we’ve put initiatives in to deal with some of the cost issues around that if we don’t see improvement in the first quarter of this year.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

In your guidance number, what level or in just rough terms, what level of weather are you expecting in the Americas? Is it a year more like say 2009 which was sort of light weather year or is it more like 2011? Can you give us some guidance there?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

I’ll give you a conceptual discussion first. Number one is we do not budget hurricanes, or earthquakes, or catastrophes and obviously that is excluded from our guidance. What we budget for is weather events and we’re looking at a normalization of weather events really in the U.S. and in the Asia Pacific marketplace which will accordingly be down on the prior year. We have included in our guidance some revenue for the Thailand event which is beginning to mature from our perspective at this moment. We have, as I said in my commentary, we have put people into the region to deal with that. But, it is more of a normalization. I don’t have the ’09 figures with me.

W. Swain

Management

Kind of year-in year-out when we’re setting our budgets in our initial guidance we think of kind of the weather related work that we’ll use catastrophe adjusters for in the U.S. at about a $17 to $18 million expectation. That excludes any hurricanes, or earthquakes, or other sort of headline grabbing catastrophic events, it’s more the day-to-day weather that may tax our resources where we have to bring in catastrophe adjusters.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

On the Thailand loss, was there much revenue that flowed through in the fourth quarter or is most of it going to flow through in 2012? And, how does that compare to some of the events you saw in Australia and New Zealand?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

To very different events, for sure. Firstly, there was no revenue associated with the 2011 figures because it was maturing as our international operations have an October year-end as you’re aware, so the effect was coming in the first quarter. We still are getting our hands around what is a fairly dynamic situation out there and it’s very difficult at this moment to anticipate what our revenue pattern is going to be until we see at least another month or two out of the situation from where we are. We’ve got a significant amount of claims and it’s been a very difficult CAT event to actually manage because of the location, the water events, and then the production facilities and getting information out of them to handle the actual claims. It’s a moving event at this moment. We’ve got several teams that are putting schedules together to try and get our hands around this. We’ve got a good handle on the claims themselves for our clients but not so much on where the revenue is going to come in terms of the long term on that. I’m actually going out there next month to visit with our team there.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

Clearly, it’s still developing but does it have the potential to be the size of the New Zealand or Australia events from your perspective?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

I think it would be bigger than New Zealand but I don’t think it would be as big as Australia. Australia was many thousands of claims, Thailand is not that environment it is much more business interruption claims within Thailand because they’re production facilities.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

Then on Broadspire you mentioned the potential for breakeven sometime in 2012 or towards the end, does that mean you feel comfortable by the back half or the very end or is it possible it could be breakeven for the year?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

We’re looking at sequential improvement on a quarterly basis. We’ve put in place some significant cost reduction programs. We brought in the technology. As I said, I think the year end breakeven is our goal at the moment and I think we’re in good shape with the revenue wins if we continue on with that progress to be in good shape at year end.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

Legal and administration, clearly revenue has dropped a fair amount from BP. If we’re trying to think about the first half of this year versus fourth quarter is there still a material drop from what we saw in the fourth quarter that will likely be experienced in first quarter and second quarter or have we seen most of the drop to date?

W. Swain

Management

This is Bruce, Adam, as Jeff indicated in his comments, we have kind of a 90 day outlook on this project and it’s subject to dramatic changes, and twists, and turns and we have a fairly good sense of where we’re going to be in the first quarter but after that it’s difficult to say and so we don’t have very high expectations for this outside of the first quarter. As we go through this quarter that could change one way or another but that’s just kind of the nature of this particular project in that it doesn’t give us the ability to forecast out for long periods of time.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

So as you look at the first quarter, again I’m not looking for an exact number, but is the drop from fourth quarter to first quarter going to be very significant or is it going to be more moderate?

W. Swain

Management

It’s hard to say. I mean, I think it would be probably moderate in the first quarter and then what happens after that is kind of the big question mark.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

Also in the legal settlement business, there’s a lot in the headlines about a potential mortgage foreclosure settlement, broad based settlement, is that something you have the potential to be involved in?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

No comment on that at the moment. I mean we’ve seen the headlines on that as well but I’m not going to talk about those issues over the phone. One thing I would say is that both the Americas and the EMEA AP region in the property and casualty arena, they’re looking at increases in their base revenue in 2012. So there’s some positives that are coming out on the revenue side that will offset somewhat some of the decreases we’re expecting in the LSA division because of the rundown of GCCF but not to the degree of the rundown.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair & Company

Those increases, are those more from the complex or liability side?

Jeffrey Bowman

President

Well there’s a whole range of issues around the programs that we’ve been putting on place through our taking over claims programs, nominations that we’ve received both internationally and both in the U.S. which we’re very excited about.

Operator

Operator

At this time I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Bowman for closing remarks.

Jeffrey Bowman

President

Thank you every one for your time and questions this afternoon. I’d like to thank everyone for joining us this afternoon and wish you a great rest of the week. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

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