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Crane Company (CR)

Q3 2014 Earnings Call· Tue, Oct 28, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Crane Co.'s Third Quarter 2014 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, today’s conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jason Feldman, Director of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.

Jason Feldman

Analyst

Thank you operator and good morning everyone. Welcome to our third quarter 2014 earnings release conference call. I am Jason Feldman, Director of Investor Relations. On our call this morning, we have Max Mitchell, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Rich Maue, our Chief Financial Officer. We will start off our call with a few prepared remarks. After which, we will respond to questions. Just a reminder, the comments that we make on this call may include some forward-looking statements. We refer you to the cautionary language at the bottom of our earnings release and also on our annual report, 10-K and subsequent filings pertaining to forward-looking statements. Also during the call, we will be using some non-GAAP numbers, which are reconciled to the comparable GAAP numbers in tables at the end of our press release and accompanying slide presentation, both of which are available on our Web site at www.craneco.com in the Investor Relations section. Now, let me turn the call over to Max.

Max Mitchell

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thank you, Jason. As outlined in our press release last night, excluding special items, Crane's third quarter EPS was $1.12, up 8% compared to the third quarter of 2013. Sales of 727 million increased 14%, driven primarily by the acquisition of MEI, with core growth of 0.3% along with a slight tailwind from foreign exchange. Third quarter results fell short of our expectations largely related to external market conditions and we’re reducing our full year guidance excluding special items to a range of $4.40 to $4.50 down $0.20 at the midpoint from our prior guidance. I am going to discuss what transpired during the third quarter and Rich Maue will walk you through additional details as well as our revised outlook for the balance of the year. There were two primary causes of the earnings shortfall relative to our expectations in the quarter. First, Fluid Handling organic growth rates were softer than expected. Outstanding quotes are taking longer than normal to convert to orders. In addition some of quotes are tied to projects that are pushed out of it and lastly on a smaller scale some customers are delaying acceptance of existing in-house orders. This had a direct impact on us in the quarter. Second, Aerospace & Electronics margins were lowered than prior year, driven primarily by three issues. Planned and encouraged incremental investments spending, incremental one-time costs associated with an acceleration product launch, and soft defense sales. I would like to expand on each of these starting with Fluid Handling where we were surprised by weaker than expected organic growth. In February at our Investor Day, we guided to 2.5% organic growth for Fluid Handing. At that time, we were seeing Process Valve orders year-over-year in the low to mid single-digit range throughout the first quarter. However, given improving…

Rich Maue

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thank you, Max. I'll turn now to segment comments, which compare the third quarter of 2014 to 2013, excluding special items. As outlined in our press release, slide presentation and the accompanying non-GAAP tables. After this segment comment I will provide some addition detail on a revised outlook. In the third quarter, Fluid Handling sales of 314 million declined 2.4%, with a core sales decline of 2%. The core sales decline was primarily a result of weaker sales in our Process Valve business. Fluid Handling operating profit rose 6% to 49 million. Operating margin rose 120 basis points to 15.7% despite the decline in sales. The solid margin performance primarily reflected productivity gains, some benefits from lower pension expense partially offset by lower volume and substantially unfavorable mix. Fluid Handling backlog was 350 million at the end of September after adjusting for the second quarter divesture of Crane Water our backlog is up 6.5% versus the end of 2013, down 5.4% versus the end of June and down slightly compared to the same period last year. Further adjusting for currency backlog is up 10.4% compared to the end of 2013 down 1.4% sequentially and up 2.6% compared to the same period last year. As Max discussed quoting activity remained solid, but since the end of the second quarter quotes are taking much longer than normal to convert to orders, which is a change from what we experienced during the first half. This is important to note because while large projects with our Process Valve business have six plus month lead times roughly half the business is fairly short cycle MRO and small project based sales with lead times of 30 to 60 days. Weakening activity in this area was the primary reason our sales came in below expectations. For our…

Max Mitchell

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thanks Rich. While there is substantial economic and political uncertainty across several of our end markets and geographies, we continue to focus on execution and those factors which are within our control. We had expected and planned for better sales in the quarter. But our overall margin performance demonstrates our ability to perform in a difficult environment. While disappointed with our results, we’re encouraged by progress on our key initiatives. We continued to gain traction on new product development initiatives across the organization. At Fluid Handling we also delivered strong margin expansion despite negative product mix in revenue declines. Further we continue to expect the pickup in chemical investment, although the timing appears to be moving further to the right. The payment and merchandising technologies the MEI integration is progressing very well and margins are tracking above our expectations. Our fourth quarter was seasonally softer for this segment. We continued to have a strong position in our key end markets. Aerospace & Electronics margins will improve reflecting better performance across the segment and we are excited about the new opportunities we have won as well as those we are still pursuing. And at Engineered Materials we expect to benefit going forward from a non-residential construction recovery. And our restructuring initiatives in electronics and Fluid Handling are on track. We will be visiting with all of our businesses over the month of November to understand the latest market and business updates as we dial in expectations for 2015. And we will provide that guidance as usual during our fourth quarter conference call in late January with a more detailed guidance discussion at our February Investor Day. Now let me turn over to Jason.

Jason Feldman

Analyst

Thank you Max and Rich. This marks the end of our prepared comments. Operator, we’re now ready to take questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. And our first question comes from the line of Ajay Kejriwal of FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Ajay Kejriwal - FBR Capital Markets

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

So Max may be just to start with a boarder question here and I asked this is in the back drop of most industrials are actually reporting decent earnings here, and the performance last night really stick out. And I know you’ve mentioned number of issues related to end markets and you provided good detail. But wondering whether some of these issues such as the product launch expenses, et cetera might have been anticipated with some more visibility now?

Max Mitchell

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

So specific to aerospace Ajay?

Ajay Kejriwal - FBR Capital Markets

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Yes, so that was one. And then I think engineered materials you called out some material input cost. I am just wondering that just a lot of these items across the board, and I know in fluid you’ve talked extensively about end markets kind of product, those order cycles lengthening during the course of the quarter. But I’m just wondering whether you might have had some visibility early on or is this more like a systems issue which caused you to be surprised here.

Max Mitchell

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

No system issue. Let’s start with Fluid Handling. We tried to paint this picture of what we saw with the real order momentum that we had exiting the second quarter. There was a significant drop-off in quote to order conversion in July and August. And we really needed to see this play out through the quarter. It did catch us a bit by surprise. I think we have heard some of our peers also discuss similar volatilities, similar uncertainty. Now it does seem to vary depending on where others are playing specifically, upstream oil and gas versus mid and down, heavier on mixed towards chemicals. So my sense is that there is nothing unusual here that others haven’t felt in the third quarter. And as I continued to analyze the announcements that are coming out not only from our peers but also from the EPCs and our customers. There is a consistent theme of generally strong U.S. markets that are expected to continue to do well as we head into ‘15 and ‘16. Europe continues to be soft generally and it’s going to be sluggish. China, there clearly appears to be a bit of a slowdown here. I think things continued to play out in terms of severity and this is what we’re watching closely on a global basis into the fourth quarter. So with Fluid Handling I don’t think that we could have caught anything sooner and that’s the message that we want to convey. On the cabin launch specifically, this is related to a new product launch that the end customers are the airlines. Our customers are those providers of interior cabins that are bidding competitively on a tighter timeline than the normal aerospace program if you will. Once those are won and bid by our customers, those providing interior cabin solutions. We have a tighter timeline with which we develop. I'm very, very proud of the team's effort here at our new solution within the cabin actuation. It had stronger demand than we anticipated and we chased quite a few opportunities that we were successful with. That ended up compressing our timeline in terms of developing and delivering on to meet the customer's expectations. The team made the right call to make sure that we accelerated whatever it took in terms of the supply chain that was not fully brought up to speed to handle the amount of capacity necessary with the rate of demand that we saw. Now, this played out through the second quarter and third quarter and while we were aware in the second quarter the severity was not fully appreciated until the third quarter, and our efforts continued from second quarter to the third quarter, so that's how I would frame up.

Ajay Kejriwal - FBR Capital Markets

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

So, maybe just on the product launch charges. Maybe quantify for us the impact in the quarter sounds like they're behind you but maybe just clarify how should we model in Aerospace margins here in the fourth quarter. And I had a couple of other Aerospace questions.

Rich Maue

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Yes so I think, Ajay hey it's Rich. I think the way to think about maybe quantification of what Max just talked about specific to Aerospace. So we had 320 basis points degradation in the quarter, which is roughly call it $5 million $5.5 million, 3 million of that degradation was planned investments to support new programs, things that we plan, things that we had been talking about all along. And then the balance of that number is really split between this issue that arose in cabin. So call it a 1.2 million or just a little bit north of that in the quarter, and then the other half of that being the impact of the lower defense sales that we experienced in the quarter as well. So, from an order of magnitude we don't like to see 1.2 million in the quarter clearly it's something we take seriously but order of magnitude it's about 1.2 million specific to the quarter.

Ajay Kejriwal - FBR Capital Market

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

So that should go away I imagine in the fourth quarter and beyond. But what about lowered the impact from defense? How should we be thinking about that? What the issues were anymore clarity there would be helpful too?

Rich Maue

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Sure. So I mean in that area we do expect revenues to come back up, in this business in the defense sector we tend to see some lumpiness in the orders and sales. So we do expect sales to return to a higher level in the fourth quarter where we shouldn't experience that kind of a degradation in Q4.

Ajay Kejriwal - FBR Capital Market

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

And then maybe on Engineered Materials; what were the raw material issues? Is this any specific material that went up in price on you? Or might there be something else that caused the surprise?

Rich Maue

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Yes, so it's mainly resin based, right. So that's the primary raw material input cost that we monitor which is really frankly a magnitude or a composition of other things like styrene and benzene. So the magnitude of the increase that we saw was a little bit quicker than expected. We had experienced a benzene plant go down, I think it was in the month of either late June or early July, and those costs hit us here in the third quarter. We do expect them to abate even as we move out of the fourth quarter or even partially in the fourth quarter moving forward. But it was mainly around resin and styrene cost which is a primary input cost of materials that we produce in Engineered Materials.

Ajay Kejriwal - FBR Capital Market

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

So some cost bleed into the fourth quarter, but then you'd expect more normalized cost into next year?

Rich Maue

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Yes. We would expect hopefully some benefit from as Max pointed out in his prepared remarks the impact of some of the lower price of oil.

Ajay Kejriwal - FBR Capital Market

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

And last question for me before I pass it on. So Max with the stock having done what it has really over the past coupled months. So share buybacks move up the priority list of capital allocation? Or how should we be thinking about that?

Max Mitchell

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

So as we've announced previously Ajay, we don't preannounce and our policy or capital deployment strategy is to offset dilution. That’s all I can really say.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Ron Epstein of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Ron Epstein - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Ron Epstein of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open

So just maybe a couple of details and then maybe one broader kind of strategic question. When we look at the environmental remediation liabilities, kind of what drove the change there? Was it just kind of just updating everything? I mean what kind of made that happen now? And then how do we think the cash? How do we think about the cash flow from that? And just maybe a quick accounting, I mean do you sort of take the charge now and then the cash flow is out over time or how does that work?

Rich Maue

Analyst · Ron Epstein of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open

Sure. So with respect to the initial charge for our Goodyear, Arizona site this was part of our normal process that we go through and working closely with the EPA. And really all this was updating our normal work plan, extending certain elements of the remediation requirements and taking cost up through that 2022 timeframe. So I think that’s important, but equally as important to your question we see the cash cost resulting from this has been stable. So we’re really just taking the accounting, the liability out further in a more simplistic way, but the cash requirement to satisfy that liability being relatively stable. The second one is specific to our site in Roseland, a site in Roseland, New Jersey where the New Jersey, DEP adopted changes to their standards recently and that required us to perform some additional work. We completed our work plan actually in the quarter and we anticipate that the charge that we took will allow us to substantially complete all of our remediation work by 2017 in that regard. It’s a much smaller in scope and scale and I think its 4 million after tax, so not material.

Ron Epstein - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Ron Epstein of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open

And then Max, when do you stand back and you looked at the portfolio of businesses that you have, now that you’ve been in the leadership role little bit longer. How do you think about that portfolio, right? I mean you kind of know where I am going, I mean the question I get all time is why they do this? Why do they do that? Meaning in terms of the broad variation of businesses that you’re in. Do you think there is places you need to build out the portfolio or are there places you need to save it back? I know you can’t be super specific. But can you speak broadly about how you’re thinking about your portfolio of companies right now?

Max Mitchell

Analyst · Ron Epstein of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open

Sure, Ron, and I think we’ll continue to be consistent here in terms of how we view our strategy at the corporate level and portfolio. We think of ourselves as a diversified manufacturer of highly engineered products that deliver above average returns that we are able to reinvest the cash flow. We act as an integrated operating company and we drive synergies on a global basis with our Crane business systems. So as diverse as these businesses appear, there are significant synergies that we drive as an integrated operating company. We like the portfolio we’ve had over the last 14 years; we’ve continued to drive a transformation within that portfolio. There has been careful pruning and significant investment that has focused our portfolio in three key strategic areas of Aerospace & Electronics, Fluid Handling, Payment and Merchandizing technologies. We’ve said that we will continue to look at bolt-on acquisitions that will strengthen our core as well as look at near adjacencies. So the update data to our strategies we think about the portfolio was clearly expanding our lens in terms of near adjacencies in our core areas of Fluid Handling and Aerospace & Electronics. Meanwhile, we have very good businesses within Payment and Mechanizing technologies. The MEI acquisition is doing very, very well for us. And Engineered Materials continues to be an outstanding business with strong North America presence that we’ll be able to leverage for years to come and as a significant cash flow contributor. So we like the portfolio, at the same time without emphasizing the continued evolution of this portfolio has seen, through careful trimming, synergies as well as major investments. We’re going to continue along that path.

Ron Epstein - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Ron Epstein of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open

And then just kind of as a follow-on to that would be, I mean how busy is it in terms of M&A activity now? Or is as we think out over maybe the more short-term is just a more focus on core operations in what you have.

Rich Maue

Analyst · Ron Epstein of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open

Valuations are a challenge right now, and that’s we’re going to remain disciplined and I think that’s putting a hurdle in terms of the activity that we see. Each of our businesses has an active funnel and we have a disciplined process from a business development standpoint that each of our businesses continue to work within the core bolt-on opportunities. And we also are looking at larger over $100 million opportunities where we can -- we find that in terms of the effort and synergies that we’re able to capture that we want to focus our capital allocation on those as we continue to move forward. Having said that right now it’s fairly light in terms of any active acquisition target.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. And our next question comes from the line of Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

Max, I apologies if you had mentioned this. But just Fluid Handling trend as far as quoting and booking that has extended into the month of October. So has that changed at all or it’s the same type of experience you had in Q3?

Max Mitchell

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

Yes, it’s still similar to Q3. Now it’s still too early, Brian I mean this is something we are going to continue to understand on a daily weekly, monthly basis here. But we did see that sizable shift. We went from a quote to order average, call it 14 months on average and one as low as 10 months, 11 months and that has extend back out to call it 14 months. And so we see this careful decision making orders that appear to be eminent and less predictable.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

And this type of work, I mean is it related more to Greenfield project work or we’re talking about Brownfield expansions? Bottlenecking? I mean is there some sort of specific niche within, I think I'm referring more to chemical but maybe a sense beyond that is particularly I guess challenge for you.

Max Mitchell

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

The change that we saw from Q2 to Q3 was actually fairly broad based.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

And coming back to Aerospace & Electronics. So with the additional investment, are you anticipating you should be able to get some accelerated organic growth emerging in that business, perhaps in 2015. I think you’ve want a pretty nice return on what you’re spending.

Max Mitchell

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

Well as we painted at Investor Day, some of the programs don’t kick in until 2016. But there is no question that the return on investment is there on the programs that we’re working on.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

And can you also flush out Russia exposure a little bit. I guess I wasn’t quite clear as to why you think it’s should be such a significant headwind for you. I mean you are not selling directly into the region but you are concerned about I guess receiving payment. I guess I wasn’t certain what the description was.

Rich Maue

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

Yes, so wasn’t so much about credit in the way of us worried about receivable so much as there is impact of sanctions that are impacting our customers directly and because of that they have less funding available to invest in systems and in particular within our financial services sector in our payment business. So it’s really more of an indirect impact of the sanctions to Crane. So it’s not that we have a sanction that we can’t ship a product, it’s our customer that has a sanction and they don’t have the ability to actually fund to acquire components for systems that we would normally be selling into their end markets in particular in Russia. Yes I was just going to add, and the comparison that I made here was to our full year guidance from the beginning of the year. So that $0.05 or so is some of it digested already really not all that significant in the second quarter a little bit more here in Q3 and then an equal amount in Q4.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

And what’s your total Russian exposure at this point or exposure to customers that are being impacted here. What percent of sales would say they make out?

Rich Maue

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

For Crane total sales that would go directly go into Russia is in call it $25 million to $30 million range. But the sanctions haven’t necessarily impacted those sales all that much. It’s been more again this indirect exposure to our financial services sector which is I would say about 30% of our CPI business, and only a sub-component of that. So overall it’s probably, we’re talking here a little bit about maybe its $4 million worth of sales, $4 million, $5 million worth of sales in the fourth quarter.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

If I may ask one or two more actually just on MEI. Can you just give some update, so that business as a standalone how has it been performing? Maybe year-to-date if you want to give some year-over-year growth comparisons. I guess I was under the assumption, was there a little bit more backend weighted. I know the synergies are coming at backend weighted but I assume that the revenue was backend weighted as well? Is it just more heavily concentrating Q3 and Q4? Maybe if you could address those two things would be helpful.

Rich Maue

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

So in terms of the actual synergies themselves?

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

Well I guess is MEI, and I am picking more organic growth how has that performed year-to-date? And trying to get a sense of is it growing or is it not.

Rich Maue

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

So overall on a year-to-date basis we’ve been largely flat. And it’s been some exposures that we’ve had, we’ve had strengthened certain of the verticals as we’ve mentioned but we’ve seen some headwinds and vending towards the beginning of the year and we saw some headwinds with respect to our gaming and market as we move to the balance through the third quarter here that we’ve been talking about. So it’s been generally flat I would say in terms of our performance there. From a synergy perspective we’ve been outperforming a bit. We’ve come very close here to the synergy target for the first year we expect to out deliver the synergies by a couple of million dollars, which should point us to slightly over achieving the $0.20 EPS accretion target for the full year.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

And why is the 25 million over the first several years not increasing as well as a pull forward or its just conservatism at this point?

Rich Maue

Analyst · Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open

Yes, I would say there is some opportunity there to potentially exceed at this point we're just not ready to commit.

Operator

Operator

Thank you .And I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Feldman for any further remarks.

Max Mitchell

Analyst · FBR Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Well thank you operator. This is Max Mitchell. I have a few closing comments before we conclude the call. While third quarter was challenging, we will continue to focus on initiatives within our control, restructuring and MEI synergies are on or ahead of schedule and we will see benefits from these activities next year. New product development is progressing nicely at Fluid Handling and we continue to pursue additional opportunities at Aerospace & Electronics and our Payment and Merchandizing business is executing very well. While we remain somewhat cautious given continued macro-uncertainty, we continue to believe in the long-term opportunities in our end markets, and we will make sure that our business is positioned to take advantage of the eventual end market strengthening. Thank you for your interest in Crane, and I look forward to speaking with you next quarter and giving updated guidance on our plans for 2015.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may all disconnect. Have a great day everyone.