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Cooper-Standard Holdings Inc. (CPS) Q3 2012 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

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Cooper-Standard Holdings Inc. (CPS)

Q3 2012 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 9, 2012

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Cooper-Standard Holdings Inc. Q3 2012 Earnings Call Transcript

Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Cooper Standard Holdings Incorporated Third Quarter 2012 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded this morning, and the webcast will be available for replay later today. I would now like to turn the call over to Glenn Dong, Treasurer of Cooper Standard. Please go ahead.

Glenn Dong

Analyst

Thank you. Please note that certain information in this call may be forward-looking and contains statements based on current plans, expectations, events and market trends that may affect the company's future operating results and financial position. Such statements involve risk and uncertainties that cannot be predicted or quantified, and that may cause future activities and results of operations to differ materially from those discussed. For additional information, we ask that you refer to the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This call is also intended to be in compliance with Reg FD and is open to institutional investors, security analysts, media representatives and other interested parties. A reconciliation of certain non-GAAP financial measures used during this call can be found in the appendix of this presentation and in our press release dated November 7, 2012, which has been posted on our website and furnished on Form 8-K with the SEC. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Jeffrey Edwards, Cooper Standard's President and Chief Executive Officer.

Jeffrey Edwards

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Thanks, Glenn, and good morning, everyone. Before we get started, we just wanted to let everyone know that our thoughts have been with the folks on the East Coast that were impacted by the super storm Sandy the past week or so. We hope certainly that the coming weeks bring relief to everyone who's been affected by the storm on the East Coast. As we head into the next couple of slides, I wanted to, first of all, thank everyone at Cooper. I started with the organization on October 15. I'm very pleased to be the new President and CEO of Cooper Standard. Certainly, during my first 4 weeks, I've had an opportunity to meet with a lot of key stakeholders, employees, company leadership, the Board, customers, partners from around the world. It's been 4 weeks, but it's very easy to see that this is a very good company, strong values, innovative technology, very talented people, certainly a global footprint that gives us an opportunity to deliver great products to our customers all over the world. Before I get into any more detail, I just wanted to also spend a little bit of time giving you some background on my career. I've spent the first 28 years of it with Johnson Controls in the automotive industry. I started in the 1980s in the manufacturing plants. During the '90s, I had an opportunity to gain my first experience with Asian transplants. I was in Middle Tennessee for 4 years or so, running a joint venture there with service to Nissan. Then I came back to Michigan and had an opportunity to manage some global relationships businesses, specifically related to our Ford business and the General Motors business. Then for the decade of the 2000s, I had an opportunity to run the…

Allen Campbell

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Thank you, Jeff. Turning to the next slide, we show our third quarter year-to-date sales as compared to the prior year. Third quarter is traditionally our trough period for sales due to customer plant shutdowns. However, this year, we've also had effects of continued softness in Europe, as well as foreign currency volatility, in our numbers. For third quarter, Cooper Standard reported sales of $684 million, down 3.5% from $708.5 million in the same quarter of the previous year. Adjusting for $42.5 million of unfavorable foreign currency movement in the quarter, Cooper Standard sales were up 2.5% from the previous year. In North America, we reported sales of $363.9 million, up 4.4% from $348.5 million in the previous year. Sales were up 5.4% on an adjusted for unfavorable foreign currency movement. Vehicle production in North America continues to be strong across-the-board, with overall production up 12.2% from the same quarter last year as reported by IHS with notable increases in the Asian OEMs. Europe continues to soften, with vehicle production down 16% from the second quarter and down 7.8% as compared to the third quarter of last year. This is reflected in our European sales of $227.6 million, down approximately $40 million from the same quarter last year. Adjusting for $29 million of unfavorable foreign currency movement in the quarter, sales were down 4.1% from the previous year. Our Asia-Pacific sales for the quarter were $53.4 million, down from the previous year of $56.5 million. Sales were up slightly when adjusted for $3.9 million of unfavorable foreign currency movement, but were negatively impacted by customer and vehicle mix. Brazilian market is showing signs of improvement as a response to government stimulus measures, yet remains a very challenging environment. Our Brazilian operations generated sales of $39.2 million in the quarter compared…

Glenn Dong

Analyst

Thank you, Allen. The purpose of this conference call is to answer questions from our stakeholders. We would ask that media inquiries be handled separately from this call. Such call should be directed to our corporate communications group. This contact information is available on our website and on our earnings press release. This concludes the formal portion of our conference call. We will now open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group.

Kirk Ludtke

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

And I just wanted to welcome Jeff on board and appreciate the call. Jeff, you were mentioning that you wanted to accelerate the company's growth, and I just was curious if maybe you could elaborate on that, and particularly with respect to your acquisition strategy.

Jeffrey Edwards

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Thanks for the welcome as well. I think my comment regarding growth, certainly, as we continue to execute our product plan and our innovation plan, I'm confident that the growth opportunities, especially that I referred to in China and India will give us an opportunity to expand that footprint that we have today. So that, I'm certainly confident and look forward to meeting with those customers and spending time talking to them about, certainly, what we do to support them today but even more importantly, what opportunities we have to provide them products that we historically have not yet. So that's what I was referring to.

Kirk Ludtke

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

So it's more expanding the business in the JVs that you already have, as opposed to entering new ones or acquiring companies over there?

Jeffrey Edwards

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

No. I certainly wouldn't rule out any of the above, so I think it's -- all of it is on the table.

Kirk Ludtke

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Okay. And could you give us an update on new business wins. Where -- or maybe talk about the organic growth rate you see over the next 1 to 3 years?

Allen Campbell

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Sure, Kirk. We did not publish that this quarter. We intend to publish it after the end of the fourth quarter for our net new business and for 2013. And we're contemplating that. We believe we're winning competitively at what we should be winning and above. You won't see that for another year or 2, obviously, with the timing that's going on. But there's a lot of programs -- a lot of global programs are being put out for quote over the next 6 to 9 months, and we expect to win our fair share of those.

Kirk Ludtke

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

So maybe the organic growth rate, you think, will pick up?

Allen Campbell

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

We intend to pick up the organic growth rate in the future, yes.

Kirk Ludtke

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Okay. And then, more -- I guess, more on the detail side. Do have a strategy for buying back the preferred and the common? I mean, do you have a target price in mind?

Allen Campbell

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

We do not have a target price in mind. We have a basket obviously that we've announced that we're going to utilize. We have opportunities that present themselves, either direct -- directly to us or in the market. As you can see, our share has been -- price has been down of late, and we think it is a good opportunity to buy some of that out.

Kirk Ludtke

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Okay. And I was curious if you could -- now that we're getting pretty close to 2013, if you could give us some color as restructuring costs, pension funding, some of those larger cash items for next year.

Allen Campbell

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Okay. As we talked about, Jeff's joining us just recently, and part of his effort is going to be reviewing our strategy and getting out and looking to sites and looking opportunities. So I think it's best for us to allow his 90-day plan to play out, and then we'll be in a much better position to publicize what our thoughts are in that area.

Kirk Ludtke

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Okay. Do you think -- you think you're, I mean, directionally -- I mean, the company's guidance, I think at least the impression I've gotten is that both pension funding and restructuring costs are going to be trending lower. Is that still the case? Can you even talk directionally?

Allen Campbell

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Well, directionally, I think, if you look at pension payments -- the excess payments we've made the last year or 2, that will not be inconsistent for the next year or 2. And then that would put us much closer to fully funding after a couple of more years like we've seen in the last 2. Restructuring, you've seen our history there. We have spent $15 million to $35 million each year for the last several years. We are looking at the European market where, obviously, excess capacity in the OE and supply base. That may cause it to swing higher over the next year or so, but again, we're not going to position it and put any numbers to that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Forlizzi with Silver Point Capital.

Jeffrey Forlizzi

Analyst · Jeff Forlizzi with Silver Point Capital

Just a couple of cash questions. Can you just -- 2 things, can you give us a sense what's caused the revision to CapEx higher? Just directionally where that's going? And then the second question is just, can you also give us a sense -- the $119 million of tooling that you're carrying, just from a contact's perspective, where does that -- the highest it's ever been? Is that close to the highest it's ever been? Just so that we can get a sense for how much that might come back.

Allen Campbell

Analyst · Jeff Forlizzi with Silver Point Capital

Sure. Jeff, I'll start with the second one, tooling. $119 million is the highest that we've tracked since I've been with the company. It's up in the high-20s-some million over the prior year end. I would expect that number to trend down over the next few quarters. So we'll ebb and flow. We like seeing tooling because it's a forbearer of newer sales going forward. So in a high-growth period, it may trend higher than that. But it isn't one that you'll see that we've invested in and it will come down and some of the cash will come back to us over the next couple of quarters. As far as CapEx, our CapEx has trended higher. A couple of reasons. Again, like tooling, the positive reason is, it's related to new business. It's related to some new products that we are introducing, and then -- shortly, especially in North America. And it's also related to our Brazilian business, where we've had -- we basically held back some spending because of the uncertainty in the market. And now, with the -- a little more certainty coming back, we feel more positive about the market. We've added another facility, we've put in significant more extrusion line and finishing equipments. So it's spending in Brazil and other emerging markets, plus new technology in North America that's driving the CapEx. That new technology, the forecast we had was for late next year and some of that, we moved into this year because of the timing of the programs.

Operator

Operator

With that being the last question, we will now conclude the call. Thank you. You may now disconnect.

Allen Campbell

Analyst · CRT Capital Group

Thank you.