Michael P. McMasters
Analyst · Spencer Joyce from Hilliard Lyons
About the volatility in the margins. See, the margin itself on a per-unit basis or a per-customer basis, should not be any more volatile than our current utilities. Basically, what we're doing, we are -- with this, I'm going to say 11,000 customers, with our effort to convert these 11,000 customers from propane to natural gas, the objective, obviously, is to do 2 things. One, save the customer some money, but also generate some earnings growth. And so with all of that in mind, we said, "Okay, let's treat it as a regulated entity. And as we displace propane, we are actually going to blend the fuel rates so the prices to the customer should be coming down as we displace propane with natural gas." And so we also would be spending capital to make these conversions. And so while we have the fuel costs coming down, we would expect our base rates or our margins, if you will, to be expanding slightly based -- more of a cost to service-based approach. So you're going to see a couple of things happening. It will be a fairly complex process over an extended period of time. So again, relatively, I mean, relatively, I'm going to say, more of utility-type of stability in margins, those have a fuel cost recovery mechanism. So these utilities-type of stabilization in margins gradually expanding, while also, our fuel costs should be coming down. Trying to think, you had, I think, a further question as well.