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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the FleetCor Technologies, Inc. First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would like to turn the conference over to our host, Mr. Eric Dey, Chief Financial Officer, of FleetCor Technologies. Thank you, Mr. Dey. You may begin.

Eric R. Dey

Management

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. By now, everyone should have access to our first quarter press release. It can be found at www.fleetcor.com under the Investor Relations section. Throughout this conference call, we will be presenting non-GAAP financial information, including adjusted revenues, adjusted net income and adjusted net income per diluted share. This information is not calculated in accordance with GAAP and may be calculated differently than other companies similarly titled non-GAAP information. Quantitative reconciliations of historical non-GAAP financial information to the most directly comparable GAAP information appear in today's press release and on our website as previously described. Also, we are providing 2017 guidance on both the GAAP and non-GAAP basis. Finally, before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that part of our discussion today will include forward-looking statements. This includes forward-looking statements about our 2017 guidance, new product and fee initiatives and expectations regarding business development and acquisitions. They are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore, you should not put undue reliance on them. These results are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect. Some of those risks are mentioned in today's press release on Form 8-K and in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed with the Security and Exchange Commission. Others are described in our annual report on Form 10-K. These documents are available on our website, as previously discussed, at www.sec.gov. With that out of the way, I would like to turn the call over to Ron Clarke, our Chairman and CEO.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Okay, Eric. Thanks. Hi, everyone. I appreciate your joining the call today on short notice. Upfront here, I plan to cover 3 subjects. First, I'll comment on our Q1 results and rest of year outlook. Second, I hope to set the record straight on questions regarding our fees, our billing practices and our customer service. And then lastly, I'll discuss the Cambridge acquisition announcement, along with the rationale for the deal. Okay, so on to the quarter. We reported a good Q1. Revenue was ahead of our internal expectations by a few million and cash EPS exceeded the high end of our guidance range. We reported revenue of $520 million, up 26% and cash EPS of $1.96, up 28%. No big macro story. The macro environment was effectively neutral in Q1 versus the prior year, and it was really right in line with our 2017 expectations. Very importantly, our organic revenue growth accelerated to 10% in Q1. That includes our global fuel card line of business, which also grew 10% in the quarter. And as a reminder, that accounts for about half the revenue in the company. New sales were good. They grew 12% in the quarter versus last year. So in terms of growth, what drove growth in Q1, really 3 things. First, the addition of STP, which we did not own last year. STP continues to perform really on plan, grew 12% in constant currency in the quarter. A second driver was double-digit growth in almost every product line. I mentioned fuel cards are 10%, our Corporate Payments are 13%, tolls are 12%, hotels are 15%. And then lastly, last driver, we enjoyed a 3% lower tax rate in the quarter versus plan. Eric will provide a bit more detail on the reason. This also added to our…

Eric R. Dey

Management

Thank you, Ron. For the first quarter of 2017, we reported revenue of $520.4 million, up 26% compared to $414.3 million in the first quarter of 2016. The revenue from our North America segment increased 8.7% to $329.9 million from $303.5 million in the first quarter of 2016. Revenue from our International segment increased 72.1% to $190.5 million from $110.7 million in the first quarter of 2016. For the first quarter of 2017, GAAP net income increased to 11.3% to $123.7 million or $1.31 per diluted share from $111 million or $1.17 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2016. The other financial metrics that we routinely use, our adjusted revenues and adjusted net income, which we sometimes also refer to as cash net income or cash EPS. Adjusted revenues equal our GAAP revenues less merchant commissions. We use adjusted revenues as a basis to evaluate the company's revenues, net of the commissions that are paid to merchants who participate in certain card programs. We compute adjusted net income to eliminate the effects of noncash or nonrecurring items that we do not consider indicative of our core operating performance. A reconciliation of adjusted revenues and adjusted net income to GAAP numbers are provided in Exhibit 1 of our press release. Adjusted revenues in the first quarter of 2017 were $496 million, up 29% compared to $386 million in the first quarter of 2016. Adjusted net income for the first quarter of 2017 increased 27% to $185 million or $1.96 per diluted share compared to $145.7 million or $1.53 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2016. First quarter results reflect the impact of the macroeconomic environment. When we talk about the macroeconomic environment, we are referring to the impact that market fuel spread margins, fuel prices and foreign…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Ramsey El-Assal of Jefferies.

Ramsey El-Assal

Analyst · Jefferies

I think, I may know the answer to this question, but I feel like I need to ask anyway. With all of the recent scrutiny with the fee and billing practices, has it had any impact on your go-forward ability to implement pricing actions or change of practices, or is it just business as usual?

Todd House

Analyst · Jefferies

Ramsey, it's Todd House here. I'd say, no. We've really seen no impact on our day-to-day business. Our interaction with our SMB clients. We've had a couple of our largest clients in the enterprise segment asked some questions, but it's been easily talked off. And I'd say, our partners, the branded partners BP and Chevron have also asked some questions, but in general, it's been quite easy to work with them.

Ramsey El-Assal

Analyst · Jefferies

Okay. So my next question, which I think your answer was no competitive impact as well?

Todd House

Analyst · Jefferies

. That's correct.

Ramsey El-Assal

Analyst · Jefferies

Okay. Could you elaborate a little bit on the Cambridge acquisition. How quickly can you implement the cross-sell opportunity there in terms of integrating the 2 organizations? Is it something where it's going to be a lengthy integration? Or is it something that's going to happen relatively quickly?

John Coughlin

Analyst · Jefferies

Hey Rams, it's John. I think -- we think of it as a really a cross-sell opportunity. So probably to reach full potential would be a couple of years out. But clearly, near term, for all new sales, that'll be selling both solutions. But when you think about the go-to-market, Cambridge has about 170 people, Comdata has about 100 people. So now instead of having 100 people or so at Comdata, we got 270. Instead of having 170 or so at Cambridge, we've got 270. So I think it will be powerful as it hits the market.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Ramsey, it's Ron. I mean, immediately, we are going to take some specialists in cards business from our business and put them into Cambridge so that we can go to their clients like Day 5 and start pitching the domestic AP solution. So we're not going to wait long to get at pitching our stuff to Cambridge. But to John's point, a fuller integration will take a bit longer.

Ramsey El-Assal

Analyst · Jefferies

Got it. And then on the lodging business, obviously, growth bouncing up pretty nicely there, understanding there are some easy comps, but are you seeing incremental health in some of your core verticals within that business, rail, energy, those types of clients?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, it's good -- it's Ron, again. It's good to have the excuse train over. That stuff canceled out, Ramsey, flat finally for the quarter. So to your point, there was no [indiscernible] problem. In sales, we are at a record level. So it's healthy sales and no [ divit ] from the base.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from David Togut of Evercore.

David Togut

Analyst · Evercore

Good to see the acceleration in organic revenue growth.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Thanks, David.

David Togut

Analyst · Evercore

Just digging in, did you provide same-store sales for FleetCor overall in the quarter?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

1.5% negative.

David Togut

Analyst · Evercore

Okay. That's about the same level as we saw in the fourth quarter?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, I think it was a -- it's a shade higher. Shade point, David...

John Coughlin

Analyst · Evercore

Shade higher.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

In Q4 in Brazil. I mean, the call-out I give you in that average is Brazil is still not great, let's call it 5% to 7% in Brazil.

David Togut

Analyst · Evercore

Got it. Okay. And then, so WEX called out an increase in credit losses to 17 basis points in the first quarter, yours are significantly lower at 8 basis points. I would appreciate your insights on kind of why the big difference and where do you see credit losses going?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, don't know, we don't follow their losses, but we've had no increase in either skimming or fraud or just losses generally. So I'd say that our forecast, which we looked at a couple of weeks ago, is kind of same old, same old. So we are not seeing it.

David Togut

Analyst · Evercore

Got it. And then just shifting gears, revenue per transaction in the fuel card business did decline slightly by about 3% in the quarter. What were the main drivers behind that?

Eric R. Dey

Management

David, this is Eric. One is the addition of the Travelcard acquisition that has a lower revenue per transaction in the line average. So a little bit of mix going on in there as well. But if you look at the page that we provide and you look at them, you look at revenue per tran on a macro adjusted basis, it's actually up a little bit. So a, macro adjusted, it's up a little bit; and then b, the mix impact of Travelcard cause it to go down if you look at on a nonmacro-adjusted basis as well.

David Togut

Analyst · Evercore

Got it. And then just a quick final question from me. Can you give us an update on organic growth at Allstar and how far are you through the conversion with Visa to chip card from mag-stripe in the U.K.?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, David, it's Ron. So it's a two-part question. Let me take the second, first. So virtually done, I think, other than a couple of partners, all of the accounts that we control directly are now on the combined card. And I think we've got one partner left to move across. So that's good. And I'd say we are in the testing mode now of kind of opening that card up. So to kind of nonfuel spend the same program, I think I mentioned that we are on here in the U.S. So we are in a good place platform-wise that the whole book is over, and we're now trying to get smart on the segments and what offers we make to the clients that we've got.

David Togut

Analyst · Evercore

And is growth picking up in that business from mid-single digits in Q4?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

It's not. I don't have it in front of me. It was somewhere without the pound, without the FX and constant currency, it was, I think, probably mid-single digits. And again, the key to that, as I mentioned, is going to be the take rate. The fastest way to accelerate growth there is just nonfuel spend. So stay tuned on it.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Danyal Hussain of Morgan Stanley.

Danyal Hussain

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Just on organic growth, again, that was a pretty quick recovery from the second half of last year and I think you didn't really have much contribution from Speedway yet. So how did that come in versus expectations and where were you, I guess, most pleasantly surprised?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

You want to take that, Eric?

Eric R. Dey

Management

Yes, I would say first of all from a Speedway perspective, didn't have a big contribution in the quarter. We are going through the integration, as we speak. So we did have some volume, but it was relatively low for the quarter, but it is going to start accelerating as we get into Q2 and then in the second half of the year, in particular. I would say we were -- I'd say pleasantly surprised at a couple of areas. One, I think, fuel cards came in at a pretty solid 10%. There was another very good contribution from MasterCard, and then the gift card business also came in very strong due to some card orders that came in in the first quarter. So those were kind of the 2 areas that I would call out.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, I'd add Corporate Payments. Corporate Payments was a few million ahead of our plan.

Danyal Hussain

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. And then I just wanted to ask about this internal review that I think had been referred to. Could you just talk a little bit about the scope of what we've covered and maybe some of the conclusions that you reached?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, I would say, Danyal, we're in process. So we are running through an internal review of materials and websites and practices and how those various things compared to "market." So I'd say that that's kind of in process. And then two, we've retained someone kind of independently to also review same set of things so that I could get kind of 2 sets of feedback. So I'd say we're probably 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through both of those.

Danyal Hussain

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Okay. Are there any costs that we should be cognizant of for the second quarter?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Costs, did you say?

Danyal Hussain

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, just, as it relates to this review.

Eric R. Dey

Management

No, it's not that material.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Immaterial.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Sanjay Sakhrani of KBW.

Sanjay Sakhrani

Analyst · KBW

When you guys talk about synergies for Cambridge, are those revenues are -- are they also expense synergies?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

It is Ron, again. I'd say predominantly revenue. If you look at the cost structure of that company, it's pretty weighted in sales and service, so the "G&A technology" piece is smaller generally. So most of the upside that we're looking at is revenue.

Sanjay Sakhrani

Analyst · KBW

Got it. And then we think about this specific deal and obviously, it being one of the larger deals that you have done, should we assume that kind of takes you out of the market to do deals first for a period of time?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Not a good assumption.

John Coughlin

Analyst · KBW

Never count us out.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, again -- like we said around 3 and I think we posted our math is 2.9. So we are going to refi a bit make sure that we have capacity. John gets paid for what he does in the future, so they're working on additional things. So I said it before, if we find something in that pile that we want to close on and it bumps us up short term, then we will do it. And if we don't, we'll wait.

Sanjay Sakhrani

Analyst · KBW

Okay. It seems like it's a pretty active pipeline.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

John, you want to comment?

John Coughlin

Analyst · KBW

Yes, it's always active. I think with 10 guys globally, I think, there is never a period of time when we're working on less than 5 deals actively. So we're always busy looking at things.

Sanjay Sakhrani

Analyst · KBW

Got it. And one final question. When I look at transaction growth in the toll business, it seems pretty weak. Could you just talk about that growth rate relative to kind of what you guys expect going forward?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, again, that is -- it is. I think the volume, if you will, that tran growth is and it's back to this headwind 6%, 7%. People, GDP, employment crush in that geography, in that country, and so I think there -- even the great business that they have was fighting through their economic setup. But again, the -- a, the sales channel stuff that we're putting in and b, these new tolls the country is going to put online. I think those hopefully will create some lift even if the economy stays soft.

Sanjay Sakhrani

Analyst · KBW

Okay. Any timing on that on the new toll roads?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

John, any view?

John Coughlin

Analyst · KBW

I haven't looked at it for a year. But when we look at it based on the government reports, I think they had 10 roads to be built in the next 2 years. But to be honest, I haven't updated that view.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, we'll come back. It's a good question. We'll come back with a view on that.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Jim Schneider of Goldman Sachs.

James Schneider

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Just coming back on the customer fee and regulatory question, can you maybe just -- I don't think you mentioned any interactions with regulatory authorities like the FTC or CFPB or others? Can you maybe just talk about whether you've had any content from -- contact from those authorities as a result of any of the debate around these topics on customer fees?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Jim, it's Ron. No, no contact.

James Schneider

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

That's helpful. And then could you maybe just talk a little bit about the Cambridge platform, and I guess, where do you see the segmentation of where Cambridge stops in terms of smaller businesses and then where the Comdata virtual card business starts? And maybe kind of talk about like what the natural border line is for the size of businesses you plan to service on the B2B side and kind of the specifics of the Cambridge technical platform?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, there is a big overlap. If you think kind of $10 million at the low end and call it $300 million and you run the thing, $10 million to $100 million, $100 million to $300-plus million. The first and most important comment is they literally sit on top of each other. Both the Comdata business and Cambridge business serve accounts in kind of those small, medium and large, neither businesses in what you would think of as big enterprise, corporate, right, the payment of the banks. But inside that kind of small, medium and large, Jim, I'd say, Cambridge skews smaller, because they target businesses that might have a pretty big percent right of international business, international payments. So they are able to kind of serve a bit smaller client than Comdata, which is the domestic AP. But really happy attraction of this thing is the relatedness of the type of customers basically and the fact that, over time, we can integrate the sales force to sell 2 highly related things to the same account.

James Schneider

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Helpful. And then just a quick clarification, I think, your competitor WEX also talked about seeing increased on-time payments of -- by customers. Is that any kind of trend that you've seen in the quarter as well?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Nothing that stands out. We have obviously lots of different portfolios, but I'd say there is nothing in the trend one way or the other that's relatively constant.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Peter Christiansen of Citi.

Peter Christiansen

Analyst · Citi

Thanks so much for the discussion on the recent controversy and the added disclosure in the release. I guess, my first question is really on Cambridge. On a pro forma basis, how should we think about your vertical concentration within certain industries?

John Coughlin

Analyst · Citi

So, as Ron said, it's very similar. This is John talking. So it's calling on Treasurers and CFOs at $10 million to $300 million companies. When you think about what they are doing, they are doing international payments. So who makes international payments? People who have suppliers or employees abroad. So suppliers abroad would be manufacturing, retailers, wholesalers, professional services, actually like the legal vertical is a very big vertical, where they have foreign counsel they're paying to do work for them in their countries. So the -- it actually opens up several really important corporate -- domestic corporate payment verticals. All those 4 I mentioned are key target areas for Comdata and one of the reasons why we like Cambridge so much is that we are probably underrepresented in those verticals relative to the domestic AP market.

Peter Christiansen

Analyst · Citi

And has pricing been relatively stable? Do you see that expanding, just some sense of what the pricing trends have been in cross-border payments?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, it's Ron. Let me take that one. I'd say that in the -- in kind of the old-fashioned phone trade and payments, I'd say, the thing is kind of inching down some, and I'd say the good news is in the online where this integration into the systems that runs at a higher rate and obviously, the mix is shifting big time that way. So if you look at this company in aggregate over the last 5 years, it's basically flat. Their bps per dollar spend are fundamentally constant for the last 5 years mostly, again, because the mix has moved to online.

John Coughlin

Analyst · Citi

Yes, I could add to that. So the online business has been growing at 4x the rate of the in-person trade business. So that, as Ron said, is at a higher rate. Another area that's at a higher rate and that's growing very quickly is exotic currencies. So if you look at what banks have done in FX over the past 5 years, a lot of them have gotten rid of their foreign correspondent networks and FX capabilities in smaller, nonmajor currency markets. And as a result, a lot of those people are turning to Cambridge for white label solution, the banks themselves. And if you are trying to send USD 100,000 to Malaysia, you will pay a higher spread to do that because it's an exotic currency. And so they are seeing that part of their business grow much more quickly than the rest.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Let me just add, Peter, because I failed to mention it, as you're talking here, the strategy, I think, for us, which maybe I didn't articulate well, is that we want to just capture more of a company's AP. So if you think about company's total AP, whether it's domestic or international or paid via check or paper today, historically, in the Comdata business, we've grabbed only domestic and we basically try to grab the paper. So we're getting 20%, 30% of a company's AP. We announced another initiative unrelated to Cambridge, where we're going to offer a complete AP, where we'll take it no matter how it's paid, whether there is still some paper to pay, whether it's ACH. So strategically what we want to do is basically be able to carve out a company's AP in its totality, whether it's virtual card, paper or check, whether it's international or domestic, we want the whole thing. And so that's strategically that's where we're trying to head and then to build the distribution system that can basically enable that.

Peter Christiansen

Analyst · Citi

And I guess, finally, longer term is there a risk here from real-time payments, is that a longer-term threat?

John Coughlin

Analyst · Citi

I don't think so. When you think about where this company is focused on, it's focused on the SMB sector, and I think that's one of the ways they win. We haven't talked a lot about that. So both Comdata and Cambridge go to market with really a three-pronged value prop. First is just focus. They are actually calling on these small companies, where the banks don't. Two is with differentiated service. They actually have specialists who know what they're talking about as opposed to a guy at the local branch bank who doesn't know anything about international payment. And then three, they have better technology that integrates with them. So the real-time payments is just the pipe, the way something gets paid, but not the consumer interface and how that payment integrates with their workflow. So Cambridge will go and then provide them a solution, "Hey, I got 1,000 invoices, I need to pay globally every month and I don't want to do that manually with 20 people." And so you can do them on the Cambridge system and what pipe it goes through is almost irrelevant to the people.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Ashish Sabadra of Deutsche Bank.

Ashish Sabadra

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Solid quarter and thanks for that incremental disclosure that was very helpful. I had a much broader question. There seems to be still misperception about the growth profile and the growth opportunity. And can you just talk about how much more penetration on cross-sell opportunity do you still have, because MasterCard grew at a pretty accelerated pace this quarter as well? So if you can just talk about how much of the growth can potentially come from penetration, especially in the U.S. SMB business and then cross-sell opportunity in your core business?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, Ashish, it's Ron. I think we've said starting here, which is probably the most penetrated at least for the universal cards. It's through the mid-term, it's as long as we can see in this SMB segment. And then the second thing, I think we've told you is that we are launching a completely refashioned product line for what we call the micro accounts kind of 2 to 5 or 2 to 6 cards, which historically, we've kind of let them jump in the boat, but not chase them. So there are still -- as long as we can see in terms of trying to grow this thing, 10%-plus, plenty of opportunity here. And then as you roll into the next 2 big markets, Brazil, it's literally day 1, just beginning there. And then you roll into Europe, it's all about a better mousetrap with the universal product versus branded private label product. So I'd said it repeatedly, I think, we're going to try to do a better job producing some opportunity map for you guys. But it's not opportunity limited, it's basically sales and marketing limited. We just have to create enough pressure to make the category in our products known to people.

Ashish Sabadra

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

That's great. That's very helpful. And then even when you talked about the retention being 90%-plus, when you think about that less than 10% attrition, can you help us understand how much of it may be bankruptcy or business is going out of business?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, that's another really good question. It's probably 1/3 to 40%. The biggest one is really credit of that group, but there are accounts, obviously, that go out of business. So call it 4 in 10 accounts, we believe, would be what we would call involuntary.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Tien-tsin Huang of JPMorgan.

Reginald Smith

Analyst · JPMorgan

It's Reggie filling in for Tien-tsin. Just -- I guess, kind of just want to follow up on Ramsey's question from earlier. I think he asked about competition. I'm just curious, with all the headlines, had you received any inbound calls from some of your existing private label partners and if you could share some of the, I guess, color around those conversations? And then, I guess, your most recent updated thinking on kind of the Europe partner pipeline in RFPs and [ all the good ] stuff?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, Reggie, it's Ron. So yes, I mean, obviously, big companies, as Todd mentioned, including our partners call and go, "Hey, what is this? What is this stuff here?" So we've obviously tried to provide a few facts and point out the areas of pure fiction to them. So we've done that although it's not helpful, right. I think people allege stuff is not helpful. In terms of the Europe thing, it's kind of same as, I think, we said the last time, which is there are 2 pretty active European RFPs that are still progressing. They are still both saying they are going to make a decision, although as of this call, they haven't. So no more to report other than the couple of things that we're in the hunt for are still active, still alive and hoping they decide something.

Reginald Smith

Analyst · JPMorgan

Got it. If I could sneak 2 more in. Just thinking about STP, just curious if you guys done any price modernization kind of what's been the early reaction or response from that, if you've done that? And then number 2, I think you talked about a $1 billion in savings that your cardholders get from having the card and kind of explain the value. Can you kind of put that in the context of what annual spend is, just to give us a sense for what that $1 billion is in relation to that?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, the first one is, we don't do price modernization. I'm not familiar with. It doesn't mean much to me. But yes, we studied, I think I told you STP at some length, and determine that the company wasn't particularly segmented. It looked really at the totality of the 4 million or 5 million tag holder, sticker holders that they had and kind of used one-price-fits-all -- one-size-fits-all. So kind of priced everybody, some huge tractor-trailer that goes 65x with a bunch of axles and pays double the toll as Ron, the consumer who uses the thing once in a month to go to his vacation house. So our basic idea is where A, there's more value to some segments than others; B, there's more spend and credit risk with some segments than others. And so the pricing ought to be kind of better align to the value and that which may sound counter to FleetCor, but we're actually offering lower-priced programs that could draw in kind of light users. We think that the product is actually overpriced to attract some kind of convenience people, and then underpriced, if you will, for some of the higher value, higher users. So we have been, I would say, in our lingo kind of restructuring pricing to better match the value that people have got. On your second question, I don't have the matching spend, but I would say it's probably in the 50 bps to 100 bps range, so multiply by 10 or 20. The $1 billion is kind of the spend that's getting some kind of a discount. But the point -- as pointing that out is we wanted to make sure that people know that we have merchant agreements and we literally turn around and give some of that merchant money to clients to a tune of $1 billion. So if someone says that we don't provide any hard savings to people, we want to make sure it was clear that we do, we do actually provide hard savings along with some other benefits. In addition, Reggie, which I didn't say in there, but we also facilitate another couple of billion in discounts that are negotiated between clients and our clients -- vendors and our clients where they do a deal directly, and we basically help administer another couple of billion of discounts as an independent source, which is clearly helpful to our clients as well.

Reginald Smith

Analyst · JPMorgan

Definitely, that was helpful and a good interesting data point, so we appreciate it. I didn't catch Comdata data growth this quarter, did you guys provide that?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

13%.

Operator

Operator

And our final question is from Darrin Peller of Barclays.

Darrin Peller

Analyst · Barclays

Just quickly on the MasterCard product, I mean most of the questions have been answered. But on the MasterCard side, I know the interchange rates have changed recently. I think you mentioned that was in guidance just to verify that. And then how meaningful is that as well as, I know you also -- I believe, you mentioned on the call renegotiated terms with MasterCard, I believe, if you can comment on that and what that effect would be?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Darrin, hey, it's Ron, again. So yes and yes is the headline answer. So sometime in April, I think, it was around the third week, MasterCard implemented a bit higher interchange in our category. And yes, that -- we have been aware of that and that was built into our '17 plan of guidance. And question 2, yes, we signed a new long-term agreement with them. Was it the middle of last year?

John Coughlin

Analyst · Barclays

July.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

In July of last year. That was obviously good for them because it committed us to kind of work with them even though we are obviously working with Visa in Europe, and they were good to us in terms of the terms. So we think it was kind of a win-win.

Darrin Peller

Analyst · Barclays

Okay. All right, that's helpful. And then just quickly, Ron, bigger picture now. I mean this deal with Cambridge. Obviously, we have been waiting for another acquisition at some point soon in the Corporate Payments category makes sense given how strong the virtual payments product you guys have was -- I mean, what is your goal, again, in terms of let's say 3 years from now, 4 years from now to be in terms of percentage from card versus Corporate Payments? Are there other assets down the road? And how long we're going to wait now for the next deal? Just give a little bit more color on the capital allocation plans and really the overall strategy on where you want this business to be in, let's say, 3 years?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, that's again, Darrin, a really good question. So again, I think, in Eric's tables here, we actually were right on 50% fuel card revenue for the quarter, 50% of the $520 million we reported. So with Cambridge, if we had that obviously, we'd be that now into the 40s somewhere, right, if we had the Cambridge thing. So what I would say is that, we invest and work on things that we understand. And so we've had a couple of years to understand the Corporate Payments. And I think with all the questions we get about opportunity, having a category that has massive opportunity like the Corporate Payments and the Cambridge, it's interesting to us now that we understand that the basis on which to compete. So one of the attractions to us is, John and I have looked at other companies in the same category and didn't pull the trigger on them before. Some of the more scale issues, some more mix, some different reasons. But now with this, we might go back and look, again, at some of these companies that we have added before. So I would say that, yes, we like this AP space. It's big. We think nonbanks can be advantaged. We think the game like always is distribution and specialized distribution. So the characteristics of it are, we think quite attractive and it's going to be a larger part. I think I'd be lying to you to say that, "Hey, I know it's going to go from a 15% to 23%," but I would say it's clearly going to be bigger. John got other things when he mentioned the pipeline that are in that set. And so over 3 to 4 years, I would think because the opportunity set in lodging and Corporate Payments and tolls, which we have owned for less times is larger. We will likely keep growing the business more in those segments. Of course, there are still some fuel card things that we're looking at. But I'd say that you should think about the fuel cards being 40% in 2 to 3 years versus call it 47% exiting this year.

Darrin Peller

Analyst · Barclays

All right, that really helps. Really quickly any thoughts about a possible Investor Day at some point in the next year or 2?

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Yes, with this particular noise and I do want to say, this is really unhappy for us to have fiction thrown at us and not an easy way to assure people that we do things right and we play the game fair. And so we have chatted over the last couple of weeks about showcasing the business more. So we will be back, Darrin, with something specific on that. We think it's starting to be probably a pretty good idea.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I'd now like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks.

Eric R. Dey

Management

I want to thank everybody for joining us today, and we will talk you next quarter.

Ronald F. Clarke

Management

Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.