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Cementos Pacasmayo S.A.A. (CPAC)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 20, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Cementos Pacasmayo Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] At this time, it's my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Claudia Bustamante. Ma'am, the floor is yours.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Joining me on the call today is Mr. Humberto Nadal, our Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Manuel Ferreyros, our Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Nadal will begin our call with an overview of the quarter focusing primarily on our strategic outlook for the short term and medium term. Mr. Ferreyros will then follow with additional commentary on our financial results. We'll then turn the call over to your questions. Please note that this call will include certain forward-looking statements. These statements relate to expectations, beliefs, projections, strength and other matters that are not historical facts and are therefore subject to risks and uncertainties that might affect future events or results. Descriptions of these risks are set forth in the company's regulatory filings. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Humberto Nadal.

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Thank you, Claudia. Welcome, everyone to today's conference call and thank you for joining us. This quarter Cementos volume continued strong despite political uncertainty, proving the resiliency once again. After a very tired runoff for the entire election on June 6, yesterday, Mr. Castillo was proclaimed the next President of the country. There are claims of fraud for Keiko Fujimori and her supporters which have brought people to the street to protest against the way the elections were conducted. On the other hand, Mr. Castillo showed mix signals of moderation and radicalization so there's no clarity on how the next government will conduct itself. Despite this uncertainty, we are confident that the cement sales will continue strong this year, mainly because our current customer base is not very dependent on macro factors. On the one hand, the self-construction segment continues to be our most relevant source of income. And yet historically had very minimum correlation with high level macro factor at least in the short term. On the other hand, the demand coming from the public sector is basically related to the government to government agreement between Peru and the UK for the reconstruction after El Nino, and some from the government bodies that were put in place to offset the effects of COVID-19. We strongly and firmly believe that neither one of these policies should be affected by changes in government. They are well underway and have estimated finance. Although sales of cement have been and continue to be the main part of our goal, we're very pleased with the results of concrete and precast. As we mentioned last quarter, sales of light precast materials such as precast blocks are substantially increased in the past year. Although, these are more representative of our sales, relative performance illustrates how successful…

Manuel Ferreyros

Analyst

Thank you, Humberto. Good morning, everyone. Second quarter 2021 revenues were $449 million, a 285.7% increase when compared to the same period of last year, mainly due to the halting of precipitation during most of the second quarter of 2020, as well as an increased baggage cement shipment. However, even if we compare this quarter revenues to those from second quarter of 2019, there is still significant increase of 37%. Gross profit increased substantially this quarter compared to the second quarter of 2020, mainly due to the fact that it was close to zero during same year because of the whole variation and subsequent effects in gross profit. There was no dilution of fixed costs. Consolidated EBITDA was $90 million in the second quarter of 2021, representing a significant increase when compared to the second quarter of 2018, when EBITDA was negative, for the above mentioned reasons. We expect an important increase in EBITDA for the rest of the year. During the six months of 2021 revenues increase 119% and gross profit increase 116% when compared to the same period of 2020 mainly due to the increase in sales, as well as the above mentioned halting operations from mid March to mid May. Turning to operating expenses, administrative expenses for the second quarter increased 41.7% compared to the second quarter of 2020 in line with increased sales, but mainly due to the substantial reduction in expenses during the lockdown period in 2020. As well as an increase in workers profit share as a result of improved results. Selling expenses in the second quarter increased 71.1% compared to the second quarter of last year mainly due to the above mentioned decrease in expenses during 2020 and an increase profit share. During the six months of 2021, administrative expenses increased 28% and…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from [Indiscernible]

UnidentifiedAnalyst

Analyst

Thank you, gentlemen for the call. I have one question. And I was wondering if margins get being affected by clinker imports? If that is the case how much of does a ton of imported clinker costs?

HumbertoNadal

Analyst

Yes, of course. I mean, you have to realize that we said year and a half ago when we were coming to close for facilitation of clinker capacity, in my sense for us to import, can we have enough volume that makes sense to be the new plant? Even though they either fix the margins, I mean, we're still going to make more money in terms of sols or dollars. The thing is the margin will go down because imported clinker is more expensive. Regarding how much more expensive it is normally around $20 but it all depends on the exchange rate and in terms of the freight costs.

UnidentifiedAnalyst

Analyst

Okay and can we expect these lower margins to remain for the rest of the year? And then they should gradually should go up?

HumbertoNadal

Analyst

I know I think I mean, the first part of the year, yes, we use an important component, important clinker because we have to do maintenance to our accounting unit Pacasmayo, this would be a lower rate in the second quarter of the year. And then like I say, it all depends. I mean, what happens to the exchange rate and the freight rates. So yes, margins could remain the same or could go a little bit higher.

Operator

Operator

We have one more question from Andrés Soto with Santander. AndrésSoto: Perfect. Good morning, Humberto, Manuel and Claudia. Thank you for the presentation. My question is in your earnings release you mentioned political uncertainty as some of the causes for slowdown in volumes in the second quarter compared to the first quarter of this year. I would like to understand why are you seeing at this point? Do you believe that now that Pedro Castillo has been confirmed as President, we can expect an improvement in those projects, or were sort of understand by this point or you expect political uncertainty to persist. And if that's the case, what will you need or your clients will need to hear from Castillo administration in order to become more constructive on political outlooks?

HumbertoNadal

Analyst

Hello, Andres and thank you for the question. I think I said in my opening remarks. I think our self builders and G2G agreements have little to do with the macroeconomic fundamentals that they are expecting a lot of things to be announced from President Castillo. I think they are growth dynamics. I think when we see our daily dispatches, we see a very strong rate and we think we're going to for sure across this year of being a record year and demand we think for the time being, and this is my personal interpretation there not so much waiting for the time people will keep on working the same way they get on work through the COVID-19 crisis, and that's the central and formal economy, which is part of a robust economy of Peru.

Operator

Operator

There appear to be no further questions at this time; we'll turn the floor back to Mr. Humberto Nadal for closing remarks. Please go ahead, sir.

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Thank you so much. In summary, Pacasmayo is operating for 64 years, you know wonderful. I mean, this is wonderful as a given complex country. Always Peru has, we've had many kinds of governments going from the left, center and right as you know, we will not only prevail, but accumulated valuable experience. We see every new chapter on opportunity to learn and improve. And we are ready to take early challenges that may come due to the confidence in our solid fundamentals, our integrity, and our capacity to adapt to lead a way to a promising and sustainable future. We remain extremely optimistic of our company, and we will always remain very optimistic about the future of our country. Thank you very much for your interest in our company. And as always, Manuel, Claudia and myself, we are always here in case you have any further questions. Thank you very much. Have a very nice day, and please stay safe.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you again for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a great day.