Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing-by. And welcome to Coursera's Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] I'd like to turn the call over to Cam Carey, Head of Investor Relations. Mr. Carey, you may begin.

Hi, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q2 earnings conference call. With me today is Jeff Maggioncalda, Coursera's Chief Executive Officer; and Ken Hahn, our Chief Financial Officer. Following their prepared remarks we will open the call for questions. Our press release including financial tables was issued after market close and is posted on our Investor Relations website located at investor.coursera.com where this call is being simultaneously webcast and where versions of our prepared remarks and supplemental slides are available. During this call, we will present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of non-GAAP measures, which are the most directly comparable GAAP measure, can be found in today's press release and supplemental presentation, which are distributed and available to the public through our Investor Relations website. Please note, all growth percentages refer to year-over-year change unless otherwise specified. Additionally, all statements made during this call relating to future results and events are forward-looking statements based on current expectations and beliefs. These forward-looking statements include but are not limited to; statements regarding the potential impacts of trends affecting our industry and uncertainties in the current economic and educational environment; our ecosystem, platform, content and partner relationships; our anticipated plans and the anticipated advantages and benefits thereof; our strategy and priorities; our share repurchase program and capital and cash allocation; and our business model, mission, opportunities, outlook, and future intentions. Actual results and events could differ materially from projections due to a number of risks and uncertainties discussed in our press release, SEC filings and supplemental materials. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance or plans and investors should not place undue reliance on them. We assume no obligation to update our forward-looking statements. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to Jeff.

Thanks, Cam, and good afternoon everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. I'm pleased to share that Coursera had a strong second quarter with momentum in several key growth initiatives that provide us with confidence as we enter the second half of the year. We grew revenue 23% over the prior year. We delivered double-digit growth in each of our segments. We welcomed 5.7 million new learners to our platform, and today we're raising our outlook on revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the year. The macro environment remains dynamic, but one thing that has not changed is our ability to navigate given our diversified platform. Coursera's prominence as a global destination for individuals looking to start, switch or advance their careers, continues to grow. Learners are coming to Coursera from around the world seeing the skills, branded credentials and pathways that can transform their lives. In particular, we continue to see strong demand for our entry-level Professional Certificates, a strategic asset that has been created in collaboration with the world's best known companies. And despite challenges in the corporate spending environment, institutions are looking to provide their employees, citizens, and students with job relevant skills and training that make them more relevant in a rapidly changing workforce. We believe the long-term structural trends driving our business are proving sustainable. For today's call, I will discuss our latest views on these trends, digital transformation, skills development, and the transformation of higher education. I'd like to share several key findings from a recent World Economic Forum report as well. In June, the World Economic Forum or WEF published the latest edition of their Future of Jobs Report. The report brings together the perspectives of more than 800 companies employing more than 11 million individuals across 45 global economies. The analysis focuses on…

Thanks, Jeff, and good afternoon everyone. Our strong second quarter results demonstrate the differentiated value of our branded, job-relevant credentials to millions of learners around the world. As a growth company, we continue to benefit from our diversified platform model, including our ability to deliver high-quality learning through multiple channels. That model is also helping us produce financial leverage while we grow, with the three segments providing each other competitive assets and operational leverage. In Q2, we generated total revenue of $153.7 million, which was up 23% from a year ago. Growth was driven by double-digit increases across all three of our segments, with particular strength in Consumer. Please note that for the remainder of the call, as I review our business performance and outlook, I will discuss our non-GAAP financial measures, unless otherwise noted. Additionally, I would like to remind you that our results, particularly the year-over-year comparisons in gross profit and operating expenses, continue to reflect the shift in income statement line items associated with the beginning-of-year contract extension with our largest industry partner, which we have discussed thoroughly in our prior two earnings calls. Cutting through that shift in P&L geography year-over-year, we are driving strong bottom-line EBITDA performance. Cost of revenue increased by 11 points as a percentage of revenue, while total OpEx decreased 22 points compared to year ago results. As we will discuss in a minute, we are raising our 2023 annual EBITDA margin target. For the second quarter, gross profit was $81.9 million, slightly up on a dollar basis from a year ago, and a 53% gross margin, which was down 11 points from the prior year period. Total operating expense was $88.8 million, or 58% of revenue, down 22 points from 80% in the prior year. Looking at the P&L line item…

Thanks, Ken. Our mission is deeply rooted in our business, but this is also the case for many of our customers. To wrap up today’s remarks, I’d like to share an example of an exciting partnership with one of our largest Coursera for Business customers. BNP Paribas Cardif, a leading insurance and financial services company, has had a relationship with Coursera since 2019. In June, we expanded our partnership with a multi-year agreement to provide access to online education to all BNP Paribas Cardif employees, as well as over 5 million customers across Latin America. Their insurance policy now includes digital education services. BNP Paribas Cardif uses Coursera as a value enhancement for their customers, where insurance not only protects families, but also provides the necessary skills and credentials to help them access new job opportunities and increase their earning potential. It is another example of how businesses are seeing access to quality education as a key strategy to enhance their offerings and their global brands. And the Coursera ecosystem, and our reputation as a trusted steward of their brands, is playing an increasingly prominent role to address the rapidly changing needs of our global economies; as employers, as educators, and as enablers of the future workforce. In collaboration with our customers, we are focused on fulfilling our mission so that talent, and opportunity can rise from anywhere in the world.

[Operator Instructions] We'll now take our first question from the line of Josh Baer with Morgan Stanley.

I was hoping you could really hone in on the strength that you're seeing in Consumer in the quarter and then also in your commentary for the rest of the year. Is it more driven by new Professional Certificates launched, any sense for like a same-store sales type of look at enrollments for some of the existing certificates? And also wondering if you're able to quantify in any way the contribution from AI-related courses and programs?

Yes. Hey Josh, this is Jeff. It's a number of things on the consumer side and broadly I think in three categories. One is, quantity of new content that came on from new partners like Microsoft. They put out their first Professional Certificates on Coursera for entry-level jobs in Q2, but also certificates like the Cybersecurity Analyst Certificate from Google that also came in Q2. So new content is definitely a part of that. But to your point, around same-store sales, we do see good growth from existing titles as well. So it's not just new content, it's also apparently higher demand for existing content. There's another piece too, which is effectiveness of paid marketing. So we don't do a ton of paid marketing, but we just seem to see a better return in this -- I think it's in this environment with this product offering. People seem pretty interested in this stuff. And I think it's the brands, I think it's the job orientation. I think it's the credentials. I think it's the credit pathways to a degree. It's like a plurality of things about these certificates, including the flexibility, affordability. I mean, it's just a lot of the features that we've been building over the last, whatever eight years, are resonating in this environment. And then I think finally to that point, the sort of the environment, people often say that college education is countercyclical. I think it might be the case that this as well. And whether or not counter cyclicality means for college degree. It -- usually you see more enrollments in college degrees when unemployment goes up. We're not seeing a lot of higher unemployment right now, but I do think the new job opportunities is going up. And so the way to get into those new opportunities, if you are in a career where you don't have the skills and credentials to do that, I think these Professional Certificates are just kind of resonating as a pathway to a new career opportunity that otherwise I just couldn't have had. So I think it's kind of a bunch of different factors, but across the board it's feeling pretty positive. Ken, anything that you'd say about the economics of these things or how you see it playing out in the future?

Yes. Nothing incremental to add. Now they look like the others and the model is pretty well said. It's all about growth in this environment, as you said.

If I could sneak in one more, just thinking about your balance sheet, it's very strong. I was hoping you could review your M&A philosophy and your strategy, what type of assets could potentially fit into your platform? Thanks.

Sure. Historically, Josh, we've had limited M&A activity. We do believe that the opportunity in front of us, as with the right assets in the right markets, and these are huge markets, as I know you agree, having that dry powder for strategic flexibility is pretty important. On the front end, we've continued to look, assets have been expensive as people are aware with the previous environment, things are coming down. We remain active. We're doing some investments today as a results in some various partnerships within that corporate development group. And we do continue to look at deals. We haven't found anything at the right price for the right asset. But in philosophically, we looked at things -- we're not looking to bolt on more revenue. I think as you see us announce deals in the future, I'd expect things that add to the product portfolio where we actually get leverage on the top-line and growth as opposed to just buying revenue. Philosophically that's not how we.

And what I would add to that, Josh, is sometimes talent comes along and you buy an entity because there's really good talent associated with it. We've done that in the past. We continue to do that now. Talent is extremely valuable. In elements of job placement where we spent a lot of time on the learning, we just launched Coursera Hiring Solutions. We are building that out. I like the way that's going. We might be able to accelerate that with certain assets in that have capabilities in job placement. I don't think that we buy content, but we might do something in content engine. So it's not so much the current catalog of content, but if there's a way of bringing content on that is novel and complementary to the way that our content engine works, I think that would be great. On AI, people are talking about M&A and AI. Frankly, we would probably do it more for the talent than the actual technology because these large language models are moving very quickly. We see early stage companies, whole products get subsumed into the capabilities of a new base language model. So we're kind of holding back on that a little bit. And then broadly speaking, technology that makes the content better or the learning experience better is always great, whether that's ID verification, academic integrity, better assessment design, hands on projects. We bought a company a few years ago called Rhyme that was a virtual machine technology that enable hands on projects using desktop software. So it was a technology that supported an enhanced learning experience and enhanced content because of the technology. We are interested in that kind of stuff.

Our next question comes from the line of Tom Singlehurst with Citi. Your line is open.

Yes. Thanks for taking the question. Good evening. And congrats on results. A couple of questions. Maybe starting with that theme of counter cyclicality. And obviously, a number of things going on in Consumer, so that’s obviously a help. On Enterprise, I mean, it's still really robust in terms of year-on-year, and you obviously got different parts of it. I'm interested in your take on the continued cyclical pressures continuing for business in particular. And I think earlier in the year you sort of targeted 20% to 25% growth. So just checking if you are so happy with that…

Yes. Tom, I think I caught that. So when it comes to cyclicality and counter cyclicality, we touched on a little bit with Consumer. But as you mentioned in Enterprise, when we talk about a diversified revenue model, part of that also is diversified across the Enterprise segment. I mean, businesses are different from campuses, are different from governments, and they all have different exposures to economic cycles. We see the greatest pro-cyclicality in Coursera for Business, mostly in Europe and North America, frankly, where L&D budgets and even teams are being reduced. But we don't really see that so much in universities and governments. And so blended into that Enterprise segment are some differences where we actually see some offsetting of the pro-cyclicality of Coursera for Business, with generally, I would say counter cyclicality or at least neutral on campuses and governments. And as those verticals become a bit bigger, we think it could dampen the exposure to the economic cycles of the Enterprise segment. And so that's kind of my thinking on that. Ken, I don't know if you'd add anything to that.

That's spot on. Thanks.

And a follow-up is on pricing. I'm just interested whether you have -- well, you clearly there have cited by the way that you are exploiting pricing power across the places that continue to find new business.

Yes. I would say not really. I mean, we -- they are sort of pricing power, if you will, against the learner, which basically requires you to be a different solution than they can't get anywhere else. There is a lot of content out there on the Internet. We don't think that we are, like, the only game in town. We do think that this career academy with all these Professional Certificates is pretty unique. But frankly, we are still very much in growth mode. So we are not sort of trying to flex anything on pricing at this point. When it comes to sort of economic sharing between us and our partners, we like our arrangements right now. We want to make sure our partners are super motivated to create more content and credentials. These are great brands. So we are also not really flexing anything there. And we think there might be some opportunities in international markets, not so much on pricing, but in payments and currency. They have kind of payment methods and currency, where we think there is still opportunity that we believe that we could unlock probably most on the Consumer side.

Our next question comes from the line of Rishi Jaluria with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Hey. This is Rich Poland on for Rishi. Thanks for taking my questions. It's great to see the momentum with the Republic of Kazakhstan partnership as well as the expanded partnership with BNP. Just curious, how should we think about the mechanics of these types of deals and how those new learners get monetized? And then are there any other similar partnerships to call out or that you'd highlight here? Thanks.

Yes. Hey, Rishi, this is Jeff. The way that I would categorize this generally, or at least the way I think about it, and we think about it from a modeling perspective, is that fundamentally in the Enterprise segment we're selling seat licenses. And so the question is, well, how, who buys a seat license and for whom? And what we're seeing is what I think of the sort of system-wide deals, as with the Republic of Kazakhstan and many other systems including State Department of Labor workforce development programs and even university systems, in the United States and other places. Oftentimes you'll find one institution with an intention to uplevel the educational capabilities of a system of educators. It could be a school system in one country or a school system within a state or a municipality. The sort of the head institution will buy a certain number of licenses and almost do pilot testing with a number of member institutions, if you will. What we are really thinking about here is sort of an NRR sort of approach. If you can get in with someone who can prove out the model, demonstrate use cases on a smaller buy, but to many other institutions where there's a lot more availability for upsell of licenses because they're not buying a license for every single person. We think that could be a really leveraged sales model where it takes a bit more time to win a government, but once you do, you get access to lots and lots of substitutions and with upsell opportunities. So that's kind of how we think about it. It's a little bit longer sales cycle. We think it's more defensible and we think it should have positive effects on our NRR over time.

And then just to follow-up on that, it's just -- you've highlighted good momentum in that campus and government side of the Enterprise business and just trying to think about like, is this the kind of situation where maybe those businesses become large enough in the next economic cycle to make a meaningful difference to offset some of the headwinds you're seeing in the corporate side? Or just how should we think about the -- not only the, kind of, I guess near-term dynamics within the Enterprise business, but then also just how you think about like the TAM across like the three sub-verticals?

Great question. And I think it is not unreasonable to expect that in some future time that's not way out there. They will be big enough, they being Coursera for Campus and Coursera for Government will be big enough to offset some of the pro-cyclicality of Coursera for Business. I will generally say, those two are not more than -- together are not more than Coursera for Business, but they're more than 25%. I mean, it's becoming a real thing. And so it's definitely part of our strategy is to say, how can you take the same content and credentials, the same technology platform and all the same products, marketing, sales, etc, underneath it and get leverage across a broader TAM? Will those TAMs be bigger than Coursera for Business? I don't know. It's conceivable. I mean, when you think about all of government workforce development programs, they can be pretty big. And the campuses obviously spend a lot of money. I mean, it's basically a $2 trillion market in terms of tuition for all degree granting institutions in the world. Generally speaking, they're about breakeven. So they spend, I mean, universities worldwide, they spend well over $1 trillion clearly. And so that could be a meaningful TAM we think.

Our next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs.

Maybe coming back to the topic on the Enterprise. Given the corporate spending environment you mentioned earlier, how would you characterize your visibility into whether you want to think about it in terms of the acquisition funnel or the rate of customer growth or NRR going forward and trying to marry mixtures of sort of visibility into trends versus investing behind the growth you want to achieve in the long-term, and how we should possibly think about that as an exit velocity for this year?

Let me, I'll give you the, very high level how we think about it. Maybe Ken, you can take the harder part of the question, which is exit velocity, which I usually do to you. Now, we clearly, when you look at NRR, you say, all right, you got new bookings, not part of NRR. Well, yes, bookings of new customers, not part of NRR. Then you got expansion bookings, and then you got your retention of your existing ARR. And we don't see the same characteristics among those three, new bookings versus expansion bookings versus retention. A lot more of the pressure has been in customers who signed bigger deals during COVID, especially in Europe where budgets were very big, companies and government institutions really focused on providing support, including learning support for workers displaced from the office. Well, things aren't in COVID times anymore. The budgets are tighter, the economy is not looking great with what's happening there. And so there has been more pressure on some of those expansion bookings, as there have -- based on the tightening of the budgets a across the board. So, what does that -- how does that all play into exit velocity? Ken, I'm want to punt that over to you and watch your artful answer.

Yes. No, well, I think the important thing -- and this is very much a topic on our minds right now because we're beginning our planning cycle, which we've been quite early. And as Jeff said, the NRR is the immediate, that's the least laggy, because it affects revenue more quickly, both as it relates to renewals, which is immediate revenue impact and expansion deals. But new bookings -- and Jeff said it, new bookings have remained relatively strong. So as we come to the end of the year and we look going forward, as we start to do our budgeting for next year, those bookings, those newer bookings will start to flow into revenue. And then it's a balancing of salesforce towards opportunity between C for B, C for G, and C for C, which we'll try to do to optimize towards the best opportunity considering where we're from an economy standpoint. So that's how we think about it.

Yes, I think we kind of already hinted at it a bit, but the big NRR headwinds are in Coursera for Business in Europe and North America.

Our next question comes from the line of Ryan MacDonald with Needham & Company.

This is Matt Shea for Ryan. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on a nice quarter here. I wanted to start with Degrees, given your expectation for the segment to grow 25% next year. Wondering if you guys could talk about what you're seeing in terms of enrollment trends for the upcoming fall cohorts on those door programs and how that's trending relative to your expectations. And then as those enrollments start to come in, should we see those hit in 3Q or 4Q, or what is kind of your timing expectations around those enrollment numbers?

So I'll talk a little bit about the dynamics of the segment. Ken, maybe you could talk about the timing and impact of the numbers for next year. We're feeling pretty good about this segment. We are feeling good about what we have told you guys at Investor Day about the 25% growth in 2024 for the segment. And when we look at the opportunity and say, why are we seeing more positive year-on-year improvements in Degrees segment revenue than we did say last year this time? Part of it is perhaps the economy, but a lot of it is the supply of Degrees. We have a broader selection. We can find more matches among the learners on our platform. We feel good about that, as long as we do a good job with the matching. And we really are pushing much harder to a certain kind of new degree. These degrees that are built on pathways notably, pathways from these Professional Certificates. What we hear from working adults is they want something more affordable. They want something that is more flexible. They want something that is more aligned to a certain job, especially if they want to transition from one career to another. The idea that you can do one of these Professional Certificates, and while you are earning the certificate from an industry player, have account this credit towards the college degree that you can also earn online that's affordable and flexible. People really like that. So a lot of our strategy is not just like, let's sell more degrees that are now online. It's, let's offer a product, a solution to working adults, who are trying to switch careers that frankly isn't really much in the market today. We sometimes think of them as pathway degrees, these pathways to degrees that are really much better suited. So we are in early days. We talked about University of Colorado Boulder. They had that Masters of Science and Data Science, continue to see good results there. A number of the new degrees coming on the fall have these same kind of pathway characteristics, makes us feel pretty positive. But at the same time, it's hard to estimate before something really hits the market and you see the learner demand for it exactly what the numbers will be. So Ken, in terms of expectations for Q3 and kind of impact on that.

Sure. And you have already set this up with the right highlight, of course, around the change in strategy or the emphasis in strategy on these new pathway degrees, which are at higher volume. We have introduced and we have announced those new degree programs this quarter over the last couple of quarters and we have been building that capacity to fulfill those new student cohorts. The fall quarter is when you will see, but that will be the first indication of how well we fulfill. And so we are looking forward to talking those numbers as we work very hard in fulfilling those student cohorts. And so -- but you will see that this coming quarter. It will be a fairly immediate feedback clue on how well we are doing. And we expect that we gave the 25% guidance for year back at our Investor Day, because we have great visibility on the revenue side. So it's a look forward into next year, which we will provide an update on as we do our planning going into next year as well. But once again, I'd look to the student adds and some more color this coming quarter, which we are pretty excited about.

Got it. That is super helpful. And then wanted to touch on one of your newer initiatives. You have recently began to launch more vertical-specific industry certifications, like, in healthcare with med/surg. Curious on the strategy there, how do you guys increase your exposure to learners in the healthcare segment that might not have previously been engaged with Coursera and given the workforce challenges in healthcare market, how large of an opportunity do you think this vertical could be for Coursera over time? Thanks.

Matt, great question. And I appreciate it because it will allow us to maybe articulate our strategy with respect to labor markets. I mean a really simple thing if it's not obvious of what we are trying to do is find out where there are either on the learner side big job opportunities or on the employer side, acute job shortages? And then say, how can you help people move into those opportunities, if that's not what they would already been educationally trained and credentialed to do. Well clearly healthcare is a very, very large market with acute labor shortages. A very high requirement for credentialing that has to come from trusted institutions. And you noticed that we are putting more of these healthcare related Professional Certificates. It's not the full degree, but we -- you can imagine kind of, we're talking about pathway degrees, we're putting out these Professional Certificates in health. You can imagine where we might be going. And report after report is showing that the number of job opportunities in healthcare globally is going to grow because the demographics and the aging of the global workforce and technology is going to change the nature of those jobs. And those types of jobs will be some of the least impacted by AI. So we think it's a really attractive market, especially for Coursera, given the branded credentials, given the whole degree pathways, the value of a degree, the global acute shortage and the general resilience in the face of AI. I think a lot of people are going to be wanting to go and change their career and start going after healthcare related jobs because I think there's going to be a pretty attractive set of opportunities there.

Our next question comes from the line of Taylor McGinnis with UBS.

So Ken, maybe one for you. You raised the full year rev guide this year by more than the 2Q which I think is a little bit different of approach than you took last quarter being a little bit more conservative. So I guess what happened in the quarter or in the environment that's giving you greater confidence in the back half of the year? And is there a chance that you maybe have a little bit greater visibility? Is there a certain segment you'd call out, something in the pipeline? Would love to get a little color there.

Yes, sure. Thanks Taylor. Of course, as the year progresses, we get better visibility on the revenue for the year. But we have really seen some firming up particularly on the consumer segment, which is that that business is really nicely dialed in. We think we have a handle on how we're doing on these professional certs. The machine from a metric standpoint is working. So we have greater operational visibility than we did before. We have some better certainty in some of our marketing programs, which Jeff mentioned previously. And so the ability to dial that in and rack to changes in environment gives us more confidence as we move forward. As we get closer to the end of the year, both on the Enterprise side the visibility and Degrees particularly, Degrees we can give forecasts a year out that are reasonably reliable. They can increase over time of course as we fill student cohorts and get more confident. But as we get closer to year-end, there's just the models provide better visibility and so we're more comfortable. We seek to hit our commitments always. Of course, as a public company we try not to be too conservative, to be very clear. But that's let us recognize more of the overachievement, if you will.

And my last question is just on the Enterprise side, so that on the Enterprise for Business. I'd love to hear now that we're into like July, what you're seeing in terms of trends. So you talked about, you're seeing a little bit of more pressure to expansions. Any changes on churn that you'd call out and how those have progressed throughout the quarter to today?

I would characterize it very broadly, Taylor, as compression on budgets and layoffs of teams, of L&D teams. I mean, and what's interesting about this and I wonder what is going to be the sort of response when -- clearly everybody agrees that we are entering a time of increasing employment change. Jobs will be changing. Generative AI -- I mean publish after publish after -- publication after publication, they're all saying almost everybody's jobs are going to change. Part of me says, well, who's going to teach people all these new jobs? I mean, I get it that historically, L&D is one of the first discretionary budget cuts. But I personally, as a CEO of Coursera, we are planning on retraining a lot of people in a lot of jobs because there's -- McKinsey just put out a study a few weeks ago. They suggest -- McKinsey suggests that globally generative AI alone, generative AI could unlock $4.4 trillion of productivity gains. Well, what's it going to take? What investment needs to be made to get the $4 trillion return? Some kind of skilling? I obviously the tools and systems have to be upgraded, but people have to learn how to use those. So, I don't know, like from a first principal's point of view, there is a little bit of a incoherence between companies cutting L&D in a time where people are going to need to be retrained in order to unlock productivity gains.

Our next question comes from the line of Robert Simmons with DA Davidson.

I was wondering if you could go a little deeper on the net retention number. How much of that decline has come from various factors? In particular, I'm thinking about gross logo churn and pricing pressure. And then also kind of what your expectations are for the metric from here, what it might turn back up?

If you did a variance analysis of NRR by segment and region, like hypothetically if you did that and try to tribute, where is the change in NRR really coming from in that metrics, what you would find is it really jumps off the page, Coursera for Business in Europe and North America. I mean, that really explains an awful lot of this. And that grid would be C for G, C for C for B and then the different regions highlighting the two.

And that helps me answer, okay, well, when's this going to turn around? And at least without giving you -- unfortunately probably not giving you very helpful clarity, I can say it will likely be related to the macroeconomic conditions and for businesses in Europe and businesses in North America. In particular, how do companies view and fund learning and development initiatives?

And I guess, within your metrics though, how are you seeing that show up? Is the customers churning it off? Are they cutting their usage? Is there pricing pressure on renewals, what you've actually done?

It looks mostly like pricing pressure on renewals.

Our next question comes from the line of Jason Celino with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Just a couple, similar to a question as I earlier, but Ken, you're raising the EBITDA margin guide, definitely nice to see. I guess what gives you the confidence to improve it past to breakeven? Because I think in the past you haven't really guided up on the margin intra-year?

That's exactly right, Jason. We've never done that. And it's because we intentionally spend to invest, because we're a growth company and we believe the markets are big and there's the opportunity to do that. Frankly, the overachievement on the top line, there's not the opportunity to spend that quick. We're already moving towards profitability. At the Investor Day back in March we committed to profitability for Q4 and to EBITDA positive for 2024. So we've been on that trajectory. We've done that each of the last five years. It's just a matter of pace of improvement is the conversation. But we are outpacing our ability to spend productively in year and we are not going to waste money, that's for sure. And we are simply just seeing more leverage in the model. We have been very focused on doing that and creating leverage within the operating model within the departments and it's at the point where we needed to raise guidance to be realistic about it.

And Jason, one of these I'll just add is, it's probably obvious. But in every previous year, we did not put any Q4 constraints into that. We said, look, we are going to manage to adjust EBITDA margin for the year. Well, in 2023, we added that one constraint. We said, we are going to manage to this adjusted EBITDA margin, and we are going to be adjusted EBITDA positive in Q4. When you put the constraint on there, the natural answer that comes out is higher than what we were planning. And so that's where -- and we thought, let's honor the commitment on the Q4. It will set us up nicely for next year, and we feel, by the way, that we could still fund growth initiatives at an appropriate level. I mean, we would...

That's step one.

We would not sacrifice growth in order to post higher profit, if we thought that we were really starving the growth opportunities for the company.

Okay. Perfect. Now good stuff. And then really quickly, on the Enterprise side, just competitively. I know it's a tough environment for everybody, but I guess how do you feel you are doing versus everyone else? I know one of your private competitors announced some layoffs, but curious on how you think the market as a whole is doing.

Well, I don't know for sure, and the information is a bit hard to get. Clearly, I would expect that if, as I said to Robert, pricing pressure on renewal is one of the things that we are seeing. I would be surprised if that like sort of specific for Coursera and others weren't seeing it. And then when I think well, who would suffer the most from that? Well, we have pretty distinctive premium quality and branded credentials. So arguably from sort of an economist perspective, we are a more differentiated products than others. So you would expect we could resist pricing pressure better than others. I don't know what they are really experiencing, but it feels like we should be relatively in a better position there. We also see as you can imagine that, when people are cutting budgets, they are also often rationalizing providers. If you were a smaller niche player, it might be harder. So I can't speak directly to our competitors, but what I can say is, in a tough environment, I think we have some relatively speaking attractive features that help us whether it's relatively better. But again, I'm not sure exactly what's happening with the competitors.

Our last question comes from the line of Brett Knoblauch with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open.

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe first, just on the guide. It implies kind of in the back half of the year, call it, 15%, 16% growth in the third quarter and 13-ish percent growth in the fourth quarter. And this is coming after we've just seen kind of revenue growth accelerate from Q1 in Q2. So I guess what assumptions are you factoring in, where we would see call it a 10 point decel in sort of revenue growth over the back half?

Yes. So we are pretty happy we have increased the revenue guide by $20 million since the beginning of the year and just increased it $15 million this current period, along with an increase in profitability for the first time ever in year. We see continued strength in Consumer. I think we see trends along the same paths we are seeing right now. So we don't provide specific segment guidance during the year. We provide a general guide at the beginning of the year just to help people get their models right. But yes, that's where it’s staying, we're pretty excited that we're announcing the level of growth that we are. We think the investors.

And then kind of similar question on adjusted EBITDA. I know you guys have said that's constrained for the fourth quarter, but we've seen call it research -- or R&D, sales and marketing, G&A all decline in absolute from 1Q levels into 2Q. What should we think about OpEx growth for the remainder of the year? Is there a shot we hit positive, just lead us in the third quarter?

No, we provided a specific guide of course for the third quarter and we expect we'll be within that range, of course, because it's the guidance we provided. There it's harder for us to spend to invest. There's some very real investments around translation that we have the opportunity to do now with AI and some other things we do that we think will lend a hand towards next year. Again, primarily we're a growth company, so this -- a lot of this is a focus on setting us up for 2024 and increased leverage and growth in 2024. So, no, I think, doing Q3 would almost be pointless and damaging to the company. I'm not sure people would appreciate it if we did that. We committed back in March and we will hit that EBITDA positive in Q4. And the important thing is we're setting up for both growth and leverage on an ongoing basis, which is something we've delivered for the last five years. And so, that's our model. I think the investors are used to it. The notable difference I would say is we've increased the profitability target in year instead of trying to invest. It's kind of, as Jeff described before, a natural outcome of picking a point in Q4 and driving towards that because we think it's important for the Street to get that and profitability is important to us. And so, making progress there with the change environment is something we're really excited about.

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