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Coty Inc. (COTY)

Q2 2014 Earnings Call· Mon, Feb 17, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Tracy and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Coty's Second Quarter Fiscal 2014 Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, Friday February 14. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Kevin Monaco, Coty's Senior Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations. Mr. Monaco, please go ahead.

Kevin Monaco

Management

Good morning. Thank you for joining us. On today's call are Michele Scannavini, Chief Executive Officer, and Sergio Pedreiro, former Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that many of our comments may contain forward-looking statements. Please refer to our press release and our reports filed with the SEC, where you will find factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Except where noted, the discussion of our financial results and our expectations do not reflect certain non-recurring and other charges, and the discussion of our revenue growth is on a like-for-like basis, therefore constitute non-GAAP measures. You can find a reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP figures in our press release. I will now turn the call over to Michele.

Michele Scannavini

Management

Thank you, Kevin and good morning, everybody. Before I begin commenting on the business results, I want to take a minute to introduce the two new members of Equity Committee. Let’s start with Patrice de Talhouet, who joined Coty team last month as Chief Financial Officer. Patrice brings with him more than 25 years of finance experience, having served in senior finance roles for a number of global corporations. He most recently served as Chief Financial Officer, Europe for Mars Chocolate and Corporate Financial Officer Americas for Mars. In these roles he oversaw governance and compliance in the Americas and successfully led a multi-year program to transform the global finance fashion. Specifically Patrice has a strong track record of driving efficiencies in each organization he has led. We’re very excited to have Patrice on board and I believe that we will benefit from his expertise and drive to bring Coty to the next level of growth and profitability. Patrice couldn’t be with us today but will be with me from the next call on. We are also excited to welcome to our executive committee Catia Cesari. Catia joins us as the Senior Vice President, Business Development, Mergers and Acquisition. She brings to Coty 20 years of successful experience in M&A at global companies such as General Electric, Gucci Group and LABELUX. I believe that Catia’s deep expertise and successful track record is scalping and executing highly strategic deals will be a strong asset in supporting Coty’s long-term strategy. And I also to take a moment to thank Sergio Pedreiro, as this is his last earnings call with Coty. Sergio joined Coty in 2009, in the mid of the global financial crisis and quickly implemented a strategy that supported our group, reduced cost and increased management focus on earnings and margin…

Sergio Pedreiro

Management

Thank you Michele and good morning everyone. First I would like to remind all of you that my commentary today on our results and outlook include the discussion of adjusted results which excludes the impact of non-recurring items including private company share based compensation and restructuring cost. When applicable, I will also discuss our adjusted results at constant currency. This presentation is consistent with how we plan to report results and provide our outlook in future quarters. You can find the bridge from reported to adjusted results, including foreign exchange translation impact in the reconciliation tables in the earnings release. As anticipated during our November first quarter earnings release call, we expected a challenging second quarter and overall results came in in line with our expectations. Our revenues declined 4% on a like-for-like basis. As Michele explained this is a reflection of continued weakness in the Mass channel in the U.S. nail category, unfavorable phasing and going through the innovation and a high level of promotion and discounts in several markets in face of the low consumption during the holiday season. As a result of the market promotional activity, the 2% increase in volume was more than offset by a 6% negative price mix. The revenue decline was partially offset by strength in several of our power brands and continued momentum in emerging markets, which grew 6% in the second quarter and 7% in the first half. Our adjusted gross margin for the quarter decreased 50 basis points to 58.7%. We continue to see consistent productivity gain in our supply chain, which resulted in improved efficiencies and cost of goods. In the quarter we also had the benefit of favorable mix towards the higher margin Prestige business. These effects were more than offset by higher discounts and allowances, as well…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Olivia Tong, from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Olivia Tong

Analyst

First question, just we know you're expecting growth to resume in the second half and that's great, but can you talk about the cadence between Q3 and Q4, given the timing of when innovation hits as well as some of the logistics issues that you've had in the comp period? And do you expect organic growth in both Q3 and Q4? And then secondly, can you talk about the delta between volume and price mix going forward? Do you continue to expect that to be fairly wide in the second half? Thank you.

Michele Scannavini

Management

So in terms of growth, we are not commenting, and we’re not as you know, we’re giving the guidance in our growth by quarter. What I can say is that obviously in Quarter three we expect to see Prestige particularly performing well, also because of all the issues we encountered the last year with Arvoto, while expecting Mass progressively getting better in the last quarter of the year, given that they [ph] will discuss the visibility that we have on improvement on the Mass channel is still very limited and our innovation phasing in our Mass business is more skewed towards quarter four. In terms of volume and price, it's difficult for us to anticipate but clearly as of today we still see in certain markets high proportionality and trade pressure. So it is fair to assume that pressure on price is going to go on for the next few months at least.

Olivia Tong

Analyst

And then just following up on emerging markets, can you tell us specifically what Latin America grew at because it's obviously great that emerging markets grew, but it was a bit of a deceleration from the growth you put up last quarter, and I would have thought that growth would have been accelerated, given the timing of the Brazil start up.

Michele Scannavini

Management

Yes, let me say obviously when you are making those kind of investment, it is very difficult and risky to see growth quarter-by-quarter and we need to focus on what is the growth trend on the longer period of time. What I can tell you is that the growth in the quarter is being particularly driven by our new initiative and Brazil has been one of this one while for instance in the quarter talking of emerging markets we have seen a deceleration of certain area of the Middle East due to an environmental situation that was not favorable to develop business. So it’s always when you look at the overall emerging market, it's a lot of markets. We have market growing at a certain pace, market growing less, but it was important for us the three areas where we focus our effort Southeast Asia, Brazil and very recently South Africa are growing in line better than our expectation.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from Bill Schmitz from Deutsche Bank. Please proceed.

Bill Schmitz

Analyst

Can you talk about some of the market share trends, both in [indiscernible], specifically in the U.S., because I know you said it was pretty promotional, but it looks like some of the market share in both Prestige and Mass for you guys is actually suffering quite a bit, and then I have a follow-up if you don't mind.

Michele Scannavini

Management

So to say it’s a very mixed situation, I should say in all the segment where we compete. So if we take color for instance, as I was discussing before on one side we have brand that is performing extremely well, like Rimmel, gaining market share in Europe and U.S. and particularly in U.S. being over the total calendar year ’13, even in the last quarter the fastest growing brand, among the top 10. On the other side we are suffering on Sally Hansen and the reason is due as I was explaining, number one for the sharp decline of these special effects that even though represents around 15% to 20% of the total category but Sally Hansen has more than 50% of the share there. So the decline impact in the overall Sally Hansen share and also because the competition in this has increased significantly over the last period, I was looking with interest to report coming out few days ago from IRI, specifically on the nail category and in two years in the biggest retail Mass customer in the U.S., the number of SKUs in nail color in the store has increased anywhere from 60% to 120%. So this gives a sense of how the competition has increased over the last few years and obviously Sally Hansen having such a dominant share of the market suffered. When we look at fragrance, also here we have brands that are performing very well. Chloe is clearly an example with market share growing everywhere in the world but also we see solid performance in other brands like Marc Jacobs for instance. On the Mass channel, on the other side we’re suffering a market share particularly for two reason; one for the innovation phasing that was unfavorable to let me say this half of the year for our Mass fragrance brand and also for a decline of some of our celebrity brands. So it’s a mix bag with light and shadows.

Bill Schmitz

Analyst

And then just the follow-up question, do you have any sense for -- I think you said that most of the destocking is done, but can you just tell us like in the U.S. and Europe how many weeks of inventory you have and kind of where that was before the destocks, and maybe where you think it needs to go, just so we can get a sense for how much is left in the destocking, especially in Mass? And then along with that, maybe is there going to be any impact from the SAP implementation in June in the numbers; either a pull forward or push forward? And then I'll stop.

Michele Scannavini

Management

So as far as the inventory situation, we are -- obviously it’s very difficult for us to judge; to tell when retailers think that this inventory has hit the right level. So we are obviously -- our way to checking is what is the level versus our position in the year before vis-à-vis the consumption trend. This brings us to think that today the inventory is in a much better situation compared to a prior year that we have been in the previous quarter. Again, looking forward because this is so much tied to the trend of consumption, it’s almost impossible to have a clear statement if the inventory is at the right level or not. But what we can say, we see today the inventory level to a much more normalized level, let's call it that and that's why we believe that the big resizing is behind the back and what we can see the future of this more limited adjustment related to fluctuation that we could have in consumption. As far as the SAP implementation, now we come from several experience of very successful SAP implementation, also very recently as Sergio was saying, we had two successful SAP implementation with no -- in the business and no material change in our shipment flow. So we are organizing our self the same way for the next SAP implementation. So we do not anticipate at this stage anything that is material. So we are not at this stage calling from specifically or significant different flow shipments of as to what should be the normal situation.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of John Faucher from JPMorgan. Please proceed.

John Faucher

Analyst

I wanted to sort of follow-up on the nail category and understand -- I understand the sheer comments that you just made in response to Bill’s question. Is this a category that needs dramatic innovation to grow longer term or is it something where we are just seeing a normalization of the FX trends? And then secondly, like I said, I'll just leave it at that for right now, thinking more in the long-term than really in the short-term in terms of responding to the recent weakness.

Michele Scannavini

Management

Okay. The nail trend, the underlying nail trend on the long run is a growing trend. The category is sensitive to innovation as many other categories. What happened in the last two or three years, there has been a particular boost because of the innovation that’s been brought to the market was particularly disruptive for the -- disruptive in a good sense I mean. So it brought several consumer to change their habits and their use of the nail product have brought consumer to a kind of collection of all of the different special effects, in a sense maxing out a bit the household inventory of product. So what I believe is that there room and very sharp sense in the category to keep on growing on the long run at least in line with the color cosmetic trend because there is still room to increase penetration, still room to increase distribution, still room also of new markets where this is not yet maybe comparable to mature markets. So, I believe that is more a resettlement that we are seeing in this moment following the big boom of the latest two years related to this special effect but I have a strong confidence that we will see nail back to a solid growth on the long run going forward, as has been in the past.

John Faucher

Analyst

Got it. And then looking at the recent rebound in Philosophy -- there is still a lot of skepticism out in the market in terms of sort of your ability to compete effectively in skin care. Can you talk maybe about some of the lessons learned as you dealt with this and gotten it back to growth and does that give you a little bit more confidence about sort of your right to compete in that category?

Michele Scannavini

Management

Okay. As far as, let me say, I will tell you a bit of how we evolved in Philosophy and then I will answer to the more general question on our ability to compete in skin. So as far as Philosophy is concerned I should say that this is happening exactly what we discussed before and what we anticipated. So the brand has the development slower than we were expecting basically for two reasons. One, because the innovation pipeline was not regained the contribution that you should expect from innovation in this category. So we have to work to rebuild the innovation pipeline and as you know this takes anything between 18 to 24 months. Number two, it took longer than we were expecting to reformulate product, to make it suitable to be registered and sold in the international markets. So as these things are in the process to be fixed we see the business improving and as I was saying before the growth is mostly due to new launches and international expansion but we see also that more traditional franchises existing in advances many years, like Purity or Hope in a Jar, start having positive trends. So I think the overall activity of reenergizing the brand, bringing more innovation, bringing more advertising, we are in the book, supporting the launch of Hope in a Jar in January, February in the United States in a visible way. We are making important retail activity. So I believe that the combination of these start putting Philosophy on a different track. Philosophy is a big significant brand in United States. It’s not a niche brand. As far as our ability to compete in Skin, as I said few times, we could have had the same question few years ago about our ability to compete in color. So we if we go back six-seven years ago, more than 70% of our business was in fragrance and that progressively through a string of successful acquisition and progressively building capability in the company we have become progressively a very solid, a strong player in color. So as far as Skin and Body Care is concerned, we have started a similar journey. We are acquiring brands, we are strengthening our internal capability, we are bringing people that bears a specific expertise in skincare, particularly in R&D and in marketing. We are working on our existing business like Adidas or Lancaster to have organic growth on this business and we keep looking for potential opportunity on the market. So with the talent brand portfolio can we deliver growth? We can. Can we be a top competitor in the skin arena? We cannot yet. So to do this we need more brands and more critical Mass.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question, your next question comes from the line of Chris Ferrara from Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Chris Ferrara

Analyst

Guys, I guess coming out of holiday, sort of a bigger picture on Mass Fragrance. I guess it's sort of understandable what's going on in nail, but can you just give an updated view on what you think is causing the trends in Mass Fragrance, whether it's macro, different underlying consumer trends. But I'd appreciate it if you could just kind of give an update on what you think is going on there from a market perspective.

Michele Scannavini

Management

Yes, when you look at the -- there is a difference between the trend that we discussed nail and the trend we discussed in Mass fragrance. While nail was a sudden change of trend and we discuss about this was happening, the trend of consumption decline in Mass fragrances, I should say particularly in U.S. is little bit longer than the trend, and what is happening there I believe that is a combination, of can you say, in overall situation for the Mass channel that also now that category is not heavy in terms of consumption trends and also the fact that, let me say, there is a shift of focus on brands that belong more to the Prestige environment than to the Mass environment. Actually when you see the composition of the business, the vast majority of the business in the U.S. is in Prestige fragrances than in Mass, it is the same things for us. So the big business in fragrance has always been Prestige. So what we are doing here? We are testing new groups to ensure that we address what can be the need of people that shop into the Mass channel for a fragrance that is substantially good price, good value for money and as we share in the capital of earning call ago, we have just now launched a line in exclusivity with a big retailer in the United States that is called Full of Love, is a fragrance and toiletry line with a very nice appearance and aesthetics, very, very accessible price and this is for us a very interesting test to see if providing the customer with great advantage in terms of value for money in the Mass channel can drive increased consumption. This is obviously very, very early process because we just started. The initial signs are encouraging but this is something that we need to monitor for the next three to six months at least to see if this is the right route to re-energize the business in the Mass channel.

Chris Ferrara

Analyst

And I guess just a follow-up on Fragrance margin. I think you said gross margin was up in Fragrance. I guess the follow-up is why is gross up? How is gross margin doing that well, given the weight of the promotions? Maybe I'm not thinking about where those promotions are accounted for correctly, but if you've spent a lot -- I guess it's more in advertising to support brand than it is discounting, but the pricing wouldn't necessarily justify that. So how are gross margins up? And then SG&A dollars are down in the first half of the year. Can SG&A dollars be down in the back half of '14 as well?

Michele Scannavini

Management

So Chris, in terms of the gross margin, it’s correct. For the previous we saw an increase when we look at the quarter vis-à-vis the previous year. And this was primarily driven by a positive mix. We just discussed the trend in terms of Mass and in terms of Prestige and there is a difference of speed, and as we said, our business in fragrance in the U.S. is primarily Prestige and therefore we have the positive mix impact. And in terms of SG&A, you need to consider that there is a component of A&P that is a phase and so when you look at quarter-by-quarter you may have some differences from one quarter to the other. And we also have, as you know throughout the organization and with an impact in all categories including fragrance, the development of the emerging markets which in the second half will be a fully developed in terms of the structure that we build and therefore we should continue to see that contributing to the SG&A.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of Lauren Lieberman from Barclays. Please proceed.

Lauren Lieberman

Analyst

Just was curious; you guys shared the advertising and promotion number inclusive of the promotion dollars and gross margin. Could you give us how much A&P alone --so the SG&A portion was up in either the quarter or the first half? And then I'm assuming we should be seeing that go up in the second half, given the comments on supporting Sally Hansen, and then particularly the sort of bigger efforts around Philosophy, and I wanted to check if that was correct.

Michele Scannavini

Management

Lauren, when you look at the A&P alone, it’s essentially flat year-over-year. When you include also the trade spend as we mentioned, it is increasing in terms of percentage of net revenue at 60 basis points. It is really the right way to look at it. We talked about what is in the trade spend, which is essentially market disorder that we have had together with the trade. So this is the dynamic, should be more precise. The A&P as percentage of net revenue is also up slightly 10 basis points and together with the trade spend 60 basis points.

Sergio Pedreiro

Management

I want to add, because we said already several times that is important. When we talk of trade spend, it's not discount, it's not pricing, it is trade marketing and just to give you an example; if we launch exclusively with a retailer, all the expenses for the launch, advertising, featuring, windows, activity in store displays goes from an accounting standpoint into trade spend, even though they are clearly expenses that are direct to consumers to increase the sales of a brand. So this is something that we see growing as we grow exclusivity agreement with our retailer, the remaining countries of the world become one important way to way to differentiate your offer. And there is more and more requests and more opportunity there. So this is important to remind. We already discussed these a few times in the past but it is always good to remind everybody.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of Neely Tamminga from Piper Jaffray. Proceed.

Neely Tamminga

Analyst

I wanted to just ask a little question here about OPI. So we heard a lot about Sally Hansen. Could you get a little bit more color behind OPI? I think we had had a discussion from you guys about you distributing through new doors of distribution here in the United States. Where are you on that process and how did OPI perform obviously relative to Sally Hansen? And just one little clarification point on Philosophy; could you comment on how fragrance within Philosophy performed relative to your rest of portfolio, whether it be Prestige or Mass? That would be helpful.

Michele Scannavini

Management

Okay, so let’s start with OPI. So, first of all you are talking about distribution expansion. You are mentioning specifically U.S. I assume the reference was to our agreement with Sally Beauty. This is off to a very strong start. We are just at the beginning but just to give you a color on this; in the first month we reached 40% sell through on the first orders of Sally Beauty and this is very strong performance. So, we are very happy with the start. I know that they are very happy with the start. So we look to this partnership with a lot of optimism going forward. On the other side, outside the U.S. starting the beginning of this calendar year, we have started managing directly a solid retailer operation on important countries such as Germany, UK, Italy and Australia and we expect to see a strong acceleration of the retail business. I remind you that OPI is sold for the vast majority in professional, but we are start expanding in Prestige retail and we see that the result of this, what we did so far are very strong. So we expect to see a material acceleration going forward in the next quarters. Just to give you an example, we started selling OPI in travel retail basically 12 months ago and in one year OPI has already very, very, very strong position, number two nail brand in travel retail worldwide. As far as Philosophy is concerned, the question was can you, the fragrance, sorry the fragrance. So, let’s say that our focus so far on Philosophy has been mostly skin care because this is the core business of Philosophy. This is the most important part of the Philosophy business for us. So the growth as of today is mostly driven by skin care. Now we are addressing also fragrance. Actually we have very, very recently launched a new fragrance with an initial very interesting result, particularly in some retailers, that are in this moment are supporting Philosophy very strongly such as Ulta for example. And we count on the fragrance contribution to drive growth of Philosophy going forward. But as of today our focus has been on skin care and this is where today we see the growth for the brand.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Thank you and this concludes the question and answer portion of today’s call. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Monaco. Please proceed.

Kevin Monaco

Management

So, thank you again for joining us here today. We do appreciate all of your questions. So please feel free to reach out to us in the Investor Relations department if we can answer any further question or assist you in anyway. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect and have a great day.