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Corcept Therapeutics Incorporated (CORT)

Q3 2014 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 4, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Corcept Therapeutics Conference Call. My name is Ginette and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Charlie Robb. Mr. Robb, you may begin.

Charles Robb

Management

Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Charles Robb, Corcept's Chief Financial Officer. Joining me today is Dr. Joseph Belanoff, our Chief Executive Officer, and Steven Lo, our Chief Commercial Officer. Thank you all for participating in the call. Earlier today, we issued a news release disclosing our summary third quarter financial results. Complete results will be available when we file our quarterly report on Form 10-Q with the SEC. To get a copy of this release, go to corcept.com and click on Investors tab. Today's call is being recorded. A replay will be available through November 18 at 1-888-843-7419 from the United States and 1-630-652-3042 internationally. The pass code will be 38270277. Before we begin, I want to remind you that any statements during this call other than the statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements. These include statements regarding anticipated future revenues, the timing of clinical trials and clinical trial results and the advancement of additional compounds, are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that might cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements, including the pace of Korlym's acceptance by physicians and patients, the reimbursement decisions of government or private insurers, the pace of enrollment and/or the outcome of the Company's Phase 1 study of its next-generation selected GR antagonists, CORT 125134, and of its study of mifepristone in the treatment of triple-negative breast cancer, the effects of rapid technological change in competition, the protections afforded by Korlym's orphan drug designation or by Corcept's other intellectual property rights, or the cost, pace and success of Corcept's other product development efforts. These and other risks are set forth in our SEC filings, all of which are available from our Web-site, corcept.com, or from the SEC's Web-site. We disclaim any intention…

Joseph K. Belanoff

Management

Thank you, Charlie, and thank you all for joining us. As you know, Corcept markets Korlym, our first-generation cortisol modulator for the treatment of Cushing's syndrome, a life-threatening disease that affects approximately 20,000 patients in the United States. I'll speak more about our Cushing's syndrome business in a moment. Corcept's activities extend well beyond Cushing's syndrome. Corcept develops medications that utilize the therapeutic potential of cortisol modulation. Cortisol, commonly known as the stress hormone, is essential for life. There are cortisol receptors in almost every tissue of the body. However, excessive cortisol activity can cause severe illness and sometimes death. In some diseases, even moderately elevated cortisol activity can be damaging. For instance there is evidence that activation of the cortisol receptor, known as the glucocorticoid receptor or simply GR, aggravates central serous retinopathy, a serious ophthalmologic disorder. Another example that I'll address in some detail in a moment is that cortisol also appears to help triple-negative breast cancer tumor cells resist chemotherapy and seems to promote tumor growth in castrate-resistant prostate cancer cells. In fact many clinical and preclinical studies have demonstrated that cortisol modulation has the potential to treat a wide variety of serious illnesses. In addition to Cushing's syndrome, the other conditions I've already mentioned, potential targets of medications that modulate cortisol include alcoholism, post-traumatic stress disorder, cocaine addiction, Alzheimer disease, ALS, fatty liver disease, weight gain induced by antipsychotic medication, metabolic syndrome and ovarian cancer. Preclinical or clinical studies are now taking place in each one of them. Mifepristone is being studied in all of the indications I just mentioned, but our next-generation molecules are also being investigated pre-clinically in a wide range of diseases. As many of you know, we have developed a large portfolio of proprietary next-generation cortisol receptor antagonists that unlike mifepristone do…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Steve Byrne of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Steve Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

I was wondering if payors are giving you any pushback on your semi-annual price increases and if you could comment on the 24% sequential revenue gain, how much of that was price versus increase in average dose versus increases in number of patients?

Joseph K. Belanoff

Management

Steve, this is Joe. I'm going to pass the microphone over to Steve Lo who runs our commercial area.

Steven Lo

Analyst

Steve, I believe your two questions relate to price and payors and then secondly related to just the 24% growth. So as it relates to price, we have not had any reimbursement hurdles with Korlym and that's been the case since launch. I think there is a variety of factors that go into that to include the fact that our payors understand that how application [is produced] (ph) and as well many physicians report the fact that their patients have gone much better after being on another medication or after a failed surgery. As it relates to growth over the last quarter, the price increase that we took was on September 1 of the quarter. So we were obviously benefitting from the higher price for only one month in that quarter. The growth largely is based on a unit increase which includes the fact that we had more prescribers and more patients on Korlym.

Steve Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

And where would you say average dose is now and has that been trending upward?

Steven Lo

Analyst

I think what happens is because we have new patients coming in as well as we have many patients who still are on Korlym since launch, that average dose is going to fluctuate, but I think the best place that I can point you to is our SEISMIC study and I think that will help you determine that the average dose over time is going to be fairly stable.

Joseph K. Belanoff

Management

The one point I would add is that in the SEISMIC study, the patients because they were seen very frequently were on a relatively rapid titration schedule, and what we really found in the real world is that sort of degrees of titration takes place over a longer period of time. As Steve points out, there is a mix of patients and obviously new patients are starting generally at the lowest dose and as patients are on the medicine longer the dose rises, but ultimately we see no reason why the doses that we achieved in the SEISMIC study won't be eventually the steady-state doses we see in commercial practice.

Steve Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

And just lastly, again on commercial, where do you think the opportunity is for you in reaching more Cushing's patients? Is it that these patients are not being diagnosed or do you need to reach out further and reach a broader set of physicians?

Steven Lo

Analyst

I think the answer to your question is both. This is unfortunately a disease that is still largely under-diagnosed, but at the same time what we have found is that we've been really effective with our physician targeting and given our small sales force –unfortunately we haven't reached all the physicians that should be prescribing Korlym, we are going to increase the size of our sales organisation by year-end and it's our hope that we'll both increase the frequency as well as the reach of our targeted audience.

Steve Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Could you just comment on the size of that sales force increase?

Steven Lo

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. So currently we're staffed at 23 folks in the field. Our goal is to get to 33 by the end of the year. We actually have openings right now and we've actually been busy recruiting and we're slowly adding people, but definitely for 2015 our goal is to start off with 33 sales representatives and medical science liaisons in the field.

Steve Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Christopher James of Brinson Patrick Securities. Please go ahead.

Christopher S. James - Brinson Patrick

Analyst

Congrats on the progress. Just a quick follow-up. So I'm just trying to understand, maybe you can put it into perspective the magnitude of the potential prescribers in Cushing's, remind me what are the total number of endocrinologists treating Cushing's and what percent would you say have written a script for Korlym?

Steven Lo

Analyst

I'll start at the very highest number which is, if you go into the endocrinology databases, The Endocrine Society reports that there are approximately 3,000 to 4,000 endocrinologists in the United States, they call themselves endocrinologists. We target 1,500 endocrinologists who we believe based on our claims data, et cetera, to actually be treating Cushing's syndrome patients, and as such I would say just based on the numbers of our 23 people out in the field sales force, I think you can tell that we haven't reached all of them nor have we had the frequency that we would like, which is the reason why we are increasing our sales and medical science liaison organization.

Christopher S. James - Brinson Patrick

Analyst

Great, that's helpful. And then just moving onto CORT 125, while you haven't disclosed the indication, maybe what can you tell us about the preclinical studies with respect to its potency and half-life, I mean does this look pretty much like mifepristone without the side effects from progesterone antagonism or is this a much more potent compound entirely?

Joseph K. Belanoff

Management

I'm glad you asked me about that, Chris. 125134 has maybe a modestly shorter half-life but we perceive it as once a day dosing, and so in that way it's similar to mifepristone. What's interesting, as I mentioned earlier, is that while it shares some characteristics with mifepristone, an important one it does not is that it's not a progesterone antagonist, so it is not an abortifacient. What's interesting about it is that I can tell you in two relevant preclinical models. One is that in essentially exogenous Cushing's syndrome. So as you know as a physician you can produce Cushing's syndrome by giving someone a steroid like prednisone, it has real potency. You can see how it works in animal models in the same way that mifepristone works. What's also interesting and still being really explored is that in the model of triple-negative breast cancer both in the in vitro model and then the xenograft model with mice, it is even more potent than mifepristone and mifepristone is fairly potent. So the interesting thing about these compounds is that you have to get well beyond binding affinity, of these are potent GR antagonist by that definition to see what they actually do in living systems, because even small differences can make real in vivo differences. So we're quite pleased with what its preclinical profile look like, it's moving through Phase 1 at this point, and as we gain more pharmacodynamic information, we'll know where to take it. An interesting thing about our Phase 1 study is that we're actually able to do a little bit of pharmacodynamic information gathering, we actually are able to for instance give patients prednisone in one of the arms and see if this medication is as successful as mifepristone at reducing it, at really reversing its effects.

Christopher S. James - Brinson Patrick

Analyst

Great, that's helpful. And then finally on the triple negative breast cancer study, will all the data be shown in the first half of 2015 in all 40 patients or will you show an interim look of the first 20 patients and then the second 20 patients after that?

Joseph K. Belanoff

Management

Let me just give you a little bit more detail. Remember the first part of the study is a dose finding study and its eligibility is not the group of patients who ultimately we plan to study for approval, it's really to see if people can tolerate the medicine. So only a small subgroup of the people who are getting into dose finding have triple-negative breast cancer that is GR positive, so put that aside for a second. And the exact number of patients that's going to be in that part of the study is not yet determined because the way these 3+3 design studies work, you don't really have the exact dose. So put that study on its own really for its purpose to one side, its purpose really is to establish a dose level and tolerability. The efficacy portion of that study is a 20 patient open-label study in women whose tumors are triple-negative but GR positive, as I mentioned before, and we expect that those 20 patients will enrol over the course of 2015 and we will present results as they are available. It is an open-label study and we'll have results as it's going along but the intent at this point in time is to run 20 patients and see what their results are.

Christopher S. James - Brinson Patrick

Analyst

Thanks, Joe. Appreciate the clarity.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Alan Leong of [MLS] (ph) BioWatch. Please go ahead.

Alan Leong - BioWatch News

Analyst

I'm with actually BioWatch News, but thanks. Joe, got some questions. First one, CORT 125134, what are the milestones coming up, will you be sharing ongoing as well or when might you schedule, when are you hoping to have top line results occur?

Joseph K. Belanoff

Management

Again, it's a Phase 1 study, so essentially it's moving through and we're not going to announce kind of – and we just don't think it's material or important to announce each cohort that we run through, but certainly we'll announce at the end of it where we are and what we intend to pursue in Phase 2, and my best guess of that right now is that's going to be about mid-year 2015 and we'll know where that's going.

Alan Leong - BioWatch News

Analyst

For my second question, I want if I can get – [indiscernible] announce it here with broad strokes, you're hoping to have, Corcept is hoping to have its second [job] (ph) in the clinic in the near term and perhaps other going farther out, how should we see the current direction in shorter term [indiscernible] of the Company? Company has earlier promised cancer indications and you're also achieving a metabolic disease, is Corcept concentrating with cancer and Cushing's syndrome for the next couple of years or have the Company considered involvement in indications beyond these?

Joseph K. Belanoff

Management

I'm pretty sure I heard you, Alan, and I'm going to try to answer as best I can, but if I somehow got it off, please let me know. Again, the platform of the Company are diseases which are modulated by cortisol activity and there's a variety of them. Now one of the things that I think is interesting and certainly we've really been able to take advantage of is that orphan diseases, diseases that have relatively small populations, have development programs we understand, can fund and move forward, and it turns out that this is a potent, at least in the studies we've done so far, this platform of cortisol modulation goes across several different oncologic indications. We've mentioned them but I'll just repeat them; triple-negative breast cancer, ovarian cancer, castrate-resistant prostate cancer. There are good mechanistic reasons why one would pursue those indications, and of course those are very severely ill patients and they can progress [and their care] (ph) really has utility. But there are other cortisol modulating diseases that also are ones we can approach. An example of an interesting one is this ophthalmologic disease called central serous retinopathy, also a relatively small population like patients with chronic disease or a real medical need and very interesting investigator study is going to start shortly in that area. And finally to get to your point, yes, Cushing's syndrome is something we understand well, we're certainly very interested in building the follow-on compound for Korlym in Cushing's syndrome, we really think we know how to study that disease and where to go, and we think that eliminating the progesterone receptor activity is a very important medical advantage, so we will go there as well. As you can see, we have steered away from potentially what are extremely large clinical areas for development because I think they are beyond really our scope. So areas like diabetes or metabolic syndrome are very intriguing but at this point in time don't really allow us within our means to go forward. So we are focusing on as I said the disorders of oncology, ophthalmology, metabolic that we talked about.

Operator

Operator

And I'm showing no further – I'm sorry, go ahead.

Joseph K. Belanoff

Management

No, I was just going to thank everyone for listening in and really hope to make contact with all of you before the next conference call a quarter from now. So thank you very much and we'll talk with you soon.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.